Post: #276

Sometimes you don't want to know how the sausage gets made.

This is a moment where I'm getting second thoughts about this. Mildly put, I find myself from time to time disinterested in the lifes of my followers, and by the same standards, I dont like this public exposure. Its not like I am super misanthropic and want to punch them in the face for existing. Mostly. But I lack the disposition you need to be that jovial, non judging social media guy. Completely. Like I said, its not that I generally don't care and hate to engage with people on a regular basis, but seeing what type of people I follow via more or less generic niches is nothing short of degenerate made me feel uncomfortable to be associated with. I edited my niches to be safe and keep feeding the blacklisted-words section. Also I keep a watch on the kind of images Im liking, just to be safe. Maybe Im paranoid, but someone already wrote that he got recognized in the mall. If you want to be locally known as that guy who is into some weird shit, yo, be my guest, but not for me.

On the bright side. I checked out the social circles and followings of my russian girlfriend. Found a local semi-famous guy from the underground scene in that city who's good with the ladies. Should be a gold mine: If you have connections in a city, check out the cool people, mine your friends. This is where the possibilites are endless and this stuff really shines.

Also the potential and the power of having a good instagram are just too obvious for me at this point, so I wont stop this project. Today 2 girls from tinder and eastern europe asked for my instagram. Im not sure when I will be around in person again, and I cant simply imagine a better way to keep your contacts on the hook. Texting? Yeah, and deal with massive ghosting, while having to ping them constantly. Been there, done that. Soul crushingly frustrating. Also If you know a lot of people from different countries its hard to keep touch without social media. I always wanted to get on top of this shit, and Im glad this thread made me do it.

Post: #277

I didn't think this deserved a new thread.

"Instagram Girls Before Plastic Surgery"



http://www.irinatee.com/2015/03/02/insta...c-surgery/

Original page in Russian with more photos. http://super.ru/news/113381

Post: #278

So I'm gradually increasing the quality of the girls I am hitting up in the Dominican Republic. I found this one restaurant where all of the hottest girls go to, so I went around looking at all the photos that girls posted there and sent them all DMs.

This has generally been my routine so far (all in Spanish):

Me: Do you live in Santo Domingo?
Her: Yes
Me: That's cool, I'm going to be there in December. If I want to try out a plate of typical food, what would you recommend?
Her: [recommendation]
Me: Sounds delicious. Are all the girls as cute as you?
Her: [laughs]
Me: If they are I'm going to be quite distracted.
[couple more lines of small talk then I ask for her WhatsApp so she can show me that food when I arrive]

I've found that this works on the poorer, more family-oriented girls. However, now I'm going after girls with 3K+ followers, participate in beauty pageants, models, etc. They don't seem to care about playing host to a tourist. Three girls haven't responded to my "plate of food" question so far.

Any suggestions on what I can say to hook them immediately and work towards getting the number?

Post: #279

(10-30-2016 12:32 PM)reciproke Wrote:  Sometimes you don't want to know how the sausage gets made.

This is a moment where I'm getting second thoughts about this. Mildly put, I find myself from time to time disinterested in the lifes of my followers, and by the same standards, I dont like this public exposure. Its not like I am super misanthropic and want to punch them in the face for existing. Mostly. But I lack the disposition you need to be that jovial, non judging social media guy. Completely. Like I said, its not that I generally don't care and hate to engage with people on a regular basis, but seeing what type of people I follow via more or less generic niches is nothing short of degenerate made me feel uncomfortable to be associated with. I edited my niches to be safe and keep feeding the blacklisted-words section. Also I keep a watch on the kind of images Im liking, just to be safe. Maybe Im paranoid, but someone already wrote that he got recognized in the mall. If you want to be locally known as that guy who is into some weird shit, yo, be my guest, but not for me.

On the bright side. I checked out the social circles and followings of my russian girlfriend. Found a local semi-famous guy from the underground scene in that city who's good with the ladies. Should be a gold mine: If you have connections in a city, check out the cool people, mine your friends. This is where the possibilites are endless and this stuff really shines.

Also the potential and the power of having a good instagram are just too obvious for me at this point, so I wont stop this project. Today 2 girls from tinder and eastern europe asked for my instagram. Im not sure when I will be around in person again, and I cant simply imagine a better way to keep your contacts on the hook. Texting? Yeah, and deal with massive ghosting, while having to ping them constantly. Been there, done that. Soul crushingly frustrating. Also If you know a lot of people from different countries its hard to keep touch without social media. I always wanted to get on top of this shit, and Im glad this thread made me do it.

Yeah bro just relax, it's really not that serious. I have never once in my life scrolled down my followers on IG. I never will. This tool is mainly for my social status with ditsy bitches. I don't care about commenting, liking etc. I let the program run all that shit and I post my pics. That is that. Every now and then if some gay dude leaves some overly sexual comment on one of my pictures, I delete that shit, block him and move on. I think most of the guys on here really don't give two shits about IG. Just use it to boost your perceived value and fuck more bitches

(10-30-2016 04:24 PM)TornadoByProxy Wrote:  I didn't think this deserved a new thread.

"Instagram Girls Before Plastic Surgery"



http://www.irinatee.com/2015/03/02/insta...c-surgery/

Original page in Russian with more photos. http://super.ru/news/113381

Not surprised, I know a few honeys from IG who want to go under the knife. I saw more power to you. That girl went from marrying the local farmer to probably snagging her a baller.

(10-30-2016 07:23 PM)corsega Wrote:  So I'm gradually increasing the quality of the girls I am hitting up in the Dominican Republic. I found this one restaurant where all of the hottest girls go to, so I went around looking at all the photos that girls posted there and sent them all DMs.

This has generally been my routine so far (all in Spanish):

Me: Do you live in Santo Domingo?
Her: Yes
Me: That's cool, I'm going to be there in December. If I want to try out a plate of typical food, what would you recommend?
Her: [recommendation]
Me: Sounds delicious. Are all the girls as cute as you?
Her: [laughs]
Me: If they are I'm going to be quite distracted.
[couple more lines of small talk then I ask for her WhatsApp so she can show me that food when I arrive]

I've found that this works on the poorer, more family-oriented girls. However, now I'm going after girls with 3K+ followers, participate in beauty pageants, models, etc. They don't seem to care about playing host to a tourist. Three girls haven't responded to my "plate of food" question so far.

Any suggestions on what I can say to hook them immediately and work towards getting the number?

I've been targeting exactly you recently with the pageants/models. Hook them with the line about modeling or some shit. Half these worthless girls say yes then just bounce off that.
Example:
Me: Some of your pictures are awesome, how long have you been modeling for?
Her: Awww *hearts* thanks, i model for x years
Me: Yeah I can tell, you have that unique look. People tell me I should be a model, but idk. What do you think?
Her:Yeah I think so or yeah you are handsome or yeah i thought you were a model too
Me: haha thanks, we should do a photo shoot together or just pretend to be fancy and take selfies at the park. We'd get sooooo many followers.
Her: hahaha that's amazing, great idea
From there game as usual. I'd recommend running this type of game with at least 5k followers and some nice looking pics of yourself. I take 7-10 photos of myself a week, half while i'm on the shitter haha and post one or two of myself a week. Chicks swear I got them done at some modeling studio

-CD

Post: #280

Yea corsega in my experience hotter girls ("8 or above") don't care for being your tour guide or doing "language exchange"

Gonna try CD's approach. Lol I got this Insta with mad followers now but haven't really been hitting up the DMs as seriously as I can

Post: #281

(10-30-2016 09:29 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  I've been targeting exactly you recently with the pageants/models. Hook them with the line about modeling or some shit. Half these worthless girls say yes then just bounce off that.
Example:
Me: Some of your pictures are awesome, how long have you been modeling for?
Her: Awww *hearts* thanks, i model for x years
Me: Yeah I can tell, you have that unique look. People tell me I should be a model, but idk. What do you think?
Her:Yeah I think so or yeah you are handsome or yeah i thought you were a model too
Me: haha thanks, we should do a photo shoot together or just pretend to be fancy and take selfies at the park. We'd get sooooo many followers.
Her: hahaha that's amazing, great idea
From there game as usual. I'd recommend running this type of game with at least 5k followers and some nice looking pics of yourself. I take 7-10 photos of myself a week, half while i'm on the shitter haha and post one or two of myself a week. Chicks swear I got them done at some modeling studio

-CD

"Her:Yeah I think so or yeah you are handsome or yeah i thought you were a model too"

hahah no girl would ever say this about me...

brb, killing self

I'm going to try some direct game. Get them to respond and then boom just pitch meeting for drinks

Post: #282

I think there's some confusion over the word "niche" in this thread. To me, this means what you're Instagram page is about by category (as in "a particular market in business", cf. link). Some Examples:

• Male fitness model
• Travel or general photography
• Motivational Memes
• Art
• Foodporn
  

In business terms, this would be your industry.

Others are referring to the pages from which you can attract followers to your own page as "niches". In business terms, this would be your competitors. I would propose to call them "source pages". Any other ideas?

Post: #283

(11-01-2016 02:03 PM)Revolutionary Wrote:  Others are referring to the pages from which you can attract followers to your own page as "niches". In business terms, this would be your competitors. I would propose to call them "source pages". Any other ideas?

In the glossary we refer to it as a source site.
But I tend to call it a niche at times.

My actual IG niche is not defined. My channel is personal, me travelling, me working out, me playing guitar me singing, me doing all sorts of fun shit that I think is a DHV. Not that I started doing this for sake of showing off but I did start making pictures of it for the sake of showing off.

But my channel is designed to be attractive to women. So women are my niche. My tastes change, my location changes and thus does my niche or a follower sources. For example my current niche are Ukrainian chicks from one specific city I am planning to visit. What is my source page? There is no one page. But there are many locations, tags, small pages etc.

Post: #284

Thanks, Vinny. I totally understand what you are saying, and agree on the content. But you just proved my point that the polyseme use of the word "niche" in this thread is confusing, by using three different meanings in your latest post:

(11-01-2016 04:54 PM)Vinny Wrote:  In the glossary we refer to it as a source site.
But I tend to call it a niche at times.

Niche = source site(s)

(11-01-2016 04:54 PM)Vinny Wrote:  My actual IG niche is not defined. My channel is personal, me travelling, me working out, (...)

Niche = theme of your own page

(11-01-2016 04:54 PM)Vinny Wrote:  So women are my niche.

Niche = kind of followers you want to attract

Provided that one is willing to go with the business term analogy, you simply cannot refer to your competitors (or customer acquisition sources), your industry (or your unique selling point), and your target group of customers by the same term.

EDIT: That way, if someone gives the advice "Change your niche!" in this thread, you cannot be sure what that is supposed to mean:
1) Vary the source sites in the automation software?
2) Change your own Instagram page?
3) Try to target other kinds of followers (e.g. adjust male/female targeting)?

I don't want to be squeamish on language, just want to avoid confusion.

Post: #285

*Think less*

Post: #286

(11-02-2016 03:33 AM)Revolutionary Wrote:  Niche = source site(s)
Niche = theme of your own page
Niche = kind of followers you want to attract

Can you see the connection between these three? I know what kind of followers I want to attract (pretty girls), I know what kind of page I need for this and this determines what source sites I will use.

All of this is combined in one abstract concept in my head which I call my niche. I might be wrong linguistically - but I don't care as long as people get the idea.

We are kind of pioneering a new science here, and that might be the reason we are running out of words. Another word might be needed.

Any suggestion guys? How shall we call this concept?

The word that comes to my mind is vector. As it is a general direction you are taking your page to achieve a certain goal.

For example:
Growth vector - chiseling your page and your source sites to attract a certain demographic so that your page grows faster (without actual interest in these people you are attracting)
Bang vector - adjusting your page to DHV and choosing source sites to attract girl that you would like to bang in future (slower growth, better prospects)
Money vector - monetizing your page.

That's me thinking out loud. Thoughts?

Post: #287

Thanks for getting scientific on this, Vinny, but "vector" is a bit too much Just call it "purpose" of the account.

(11-02-2016 12:39 PM)Vinny Wrote:  Can you see the connection between these three? I know what kind of followers I want to attract (pretty girls), I know what kind of page I need for this and this determines what source sites I will use.

All of this is combined in one abstract concept in my head

Sure there are connections between the three elements, and this is what I would want to disseminate und better understand. It's not "one abstract concept" IMO. That's a bit too simple. Therefore I would differentiate in this thread and not use one word for it all.

In the above quote:
1) Your followers do not need to be only pretty girls. As coverdoc said before - and I agree - he doesn't care who his followers are. A lot of my followers are retards. I go primarily for the "growth vector" as you call it.
On the other hand, some followers are better than others, as they really like you, engage with you etc.
2) What kind of page is needed? My concept is similar to yours (DHVing myself). But you could also gain lots of followers with a completely different themed account.
3) The choice of suitable source sites is what I'm most unsure about. As I wrote before, I tried different kinds of source sites.

Post: #288

Topic change. Similar to others, I noticed there is too much gay and degenerate stuff on Instagram.

(10-30-2016 12:32 PM)reciproke Wrote:  Also I keep a watch on the kind of images Im liking, just to be safe.

Moin... Same here. Although annoyingly time-consuming, I made sure to go through all pictures liked and weed out such that I would never actually like. The automation tools automatically like pictures which I haven’t even seen, and my followers can see which pictures I liked. So it’s possible that pictures with undesirable themes are accidentally liked by me. Think of

• gay pics
• children on Instagram (I come off as a pedophile)
• soft pornographic pics (I come off as a porn consumer)
• political or feminist memes
• and, as lesser evils, various ugly, attention whoring selfies or commercial pics
  

The only way I could limit the liking process in Boostgram was to blacklist certain hashtags.

Post: #289

I've been reading this thread and thinking about this. People keep inviting me to instagram as well which reminds me too.

However, I'm too busy/lazy to regularly update my FB with pictures of me doing cool stuff. I have plenty that I haven't even posted and normally I just go and do cool things without taking pictures. Should I start doing this on Facebook first before I try instagram?

I don't like having all these different social media platforms to talk to people and keep up with. It takes a lot of time and it seems more stressful have to switch between whatsapp, facebook, texting to talk to people. I get tired of it, and I can't seem to keep up a conversation with more than 3 -5 people in my life without forgetting people.

How do you manage all of this and keep up with work, social life, gym girls and everything?

Post: #290

Quote:However, I'm too busy/lazy to regularly update my FB with pictures of me doing cool stuff. I have plenty that I haven't even posted and normally I just go and do cool things without taking pictures. Should I start doing this on Facebook first before I try instagram?

A lot of us have the same problems. But the only switch you have to hit is you actually taking photos. If you dont have the predisposition or are not interested in photography, it might be difficult. But every habit or skill is difficult in the beginning. Just keep reminding yourself to take photos and push through.

Quote:How do you manage all of this and keep up with work, social life, gym girls and everything?

Thats actually where social media shines and one of the reasons I want to get on top of it. You can stay in contact with people without having them to manually ping.

Post: #291

(11-02-2016 05:20 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  I've been reading this thread and thinking about this. People keep inviting me to instagram as well which reminds me too.

However, I'm too busy/lazy to regularly update my FB with pictures of me doing cool stuff. I have plenty that I haven't even posted and normally I just go and do cool things without taking pictures. Should I start doing this on Facebook first before I try instagram?

I don't like having all these different social media platforms to talk to people and keep up with. It takes a lot of time and it seems more stressful have to switch between whatsapp, facebook, texting to talk to people. I get tired of it, and I can't seem to keep up a conversation with more than 3 -5 people in my life without forgetting people.

How do you manage all of this and keep up with work, social life, gym girls and everything?

I don't want to offend you, but here is how this message translates to me.

I am lazy, I don't want to change it, I want people to tell me that it is OK to be lazy.

So you know if you pay some effort you will get good results yet you decide not to do anything.

Trust me there is much more free time in your life than you think.

Post: #292

Having a bit of success with Instagram lately and using the moments feature.
Using sources such as the best clubs and high end residences in cities I visit frequently I have followed a number of hot girls who have low follow counts, i.e. not those professional Instagram girls with 20k+ followers, but just regular hot girls with only a couple of hundred or couple of thousand followers. Many of these girls follow me back.
Then when I have been posting "moments" (or whatever they're called) of me doing interesting things they have often been messaging me saying "cool" or "where are you" etc. Literally opening me. From there it's game on to get there number and set up a date the next time I'm in their city.

This has also worked for simply opening girls via DM who have followed me back after I followed them.

I haven't been on a date with any of these girls yet but have gotten half a dozen numbers so far. Am in one city next week so will see how I go getting a couple of prospects there out on a date.

Post: #293

Do you think this system is more or less effective for girls?

Post: #294

(11-08-2016 03:43 AM)Roardog Wrote:  Having a bit of success with Instagram lately and using the moments feature.
Using sources such as the best clubs and high end residences in cities I visit frequently I have followed a number of hot girls who have low follow counts, i.e. not those professional Instagram girls with 20k+ followers, but just regular hot girls with only a couple of hundred or couple of thousand followers. Many of these girls follow me back.
Then when I have been posting "moments" (or whatever they're called) of me doing interesting things they have often been messaging me saying "cool" or "where are you" etc. Literally opening me. From there it's game on to get there number and set up a date the next time I'm in their city.

This has also worked for simply opening girls via DM who have followed me back after I followed them.

I haven't been on a date with any of these girls yet but have gotten half a dozen numbers so far. Am in one city next week so will see how I go getting a couple of prospects there out on a date.

I have been doing the same lately (slowly changing from Snapcha to IG moments) and it seems to work much better than just DMing them. What works well too is forwarding them one of their own pics as a DM and then add some funny or interesting comment to it.

Post: #295

First time I've seen this sheet, looks like an effective plan, I'll test it out on my instagram, I've had it for 3 years I think and it's just a personal account with close to 600 pics. I wonder what the limits will be for me in terms of following and unfollowing.

Post: #296

Im almost at 2k followers. Really really neat.

My configuration is now on point. I get 130 new followers every day. Really good followers, hardly any weirdos. Occiasonally weird ass arabs and indians, children, hilary supporters and so on who I just block just for shits n giggles.

I will start my affiliate marketing with instagram now. Lets see where this goes.

Post: #297

Just started using followliker, woah its got so many functions, reading that guide took some time. Just started my first run, will see how it goes. Can you run following and unfolowing queries at the same time?

Post: #298

(11-12-2016 01:54 PM)bojangles Wrote:  Just started using followliker, woah its got so many functions, reading that guide took some time. Just started my first run, will see how it goes. Can you run following and unfolowing queries at the same time?

Yes you can.

Just make sure to start with low settings like 250 follows 250 unfollows 250 likes and then increase by 50 each every week. That should keep you out of trouble.

I think you can do this till you get up to 1200 per day or even more. Mine is currently around 1000 each.

My progress has stopped 50 followers short to get 10k, cause I dismantled my laptop to clean heat sink. When travelling often and not having a stable internet connection I am starting to consider using VPS.

Post: #299

Great thanks for that Vinny, I started a bit high at 500 as I already have 12k followers (following 400). I just worked out how to use this app properly, read the guide a few times, looks promising, already getting new followers and likes from my targetted niche

Post: #300

I have made a list of girls I want to write on Instagram before I go Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Starting a conversation and keeping it going is no problem, but I have no idea how to get them on a date by Instagram. I suspect by being more or less direct. And asking for a boyfriend. Or becoming a pen pal. Fuck knows. Has anyone closed consistently on Instagram, especially eastern european girls?