Post: #176

(07-23-2016 06:41 AM)rotekz Wrote:  

(07-23-2016 06:37 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  His actions thus make much more sense since he made some derogatory statements about foreigners.

He didn't. It was an onlooker that shouted 'Fucking foreigners' at the shooter.

I see.

Still - he clearly called himself "A German". His actions don't make much sense otherwise - certainly not from a Jihadi viewpoint unlike the Axe guy a few days ago.

Nah - if it happened the way it did, then he is a regular secular psycho. Probably even far less motivated by Breivik who had an ideological motive. He also supposedly read about the amok run in Germany of 2009.

He also said in the little scene that he was born in Germany. He might have been mobbed by Turks since they are aggressive in school. Germans move out of those areas because of that.

My tip is that he is a secular psycho. The whole operation makes sense then. I had an acquaintance of mine (schizophrenic) who bought several swords and then went out on a rampage trying to decapitate his wife, was stopped by a cop, but broke the cop's arm. It's not comparable, but it shows you how people during psychosis can behave.

I might also point out that his attack was exactly on the same day as Breivik 5 years ago? He probably chose this day deliberately.

Post: #177

...and the spin machine commits to its narrative.

When reading the full article, note the psychological ploy that recounts Breivik's actions immediately after the introduction, psychologically interchanging them with the actions of the Munich shooter:

Quote:Munich gunman 'had link to Anders Breivik', Norway killer - BBC

The gunman who killed nine people in Munich was obsessed with mass shootings and had an obvious link to Norwegian mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik, German police say.
...
'Obvious' link

Munich police chief Hubertus Andrae said there was an "obvious" link between the new attack and Friday's fifth anniversary of Breivik's attacks in Norway, when he murdered 77 people.
...
Police have ruled out any connection to the self-styled Islamic State (IS) group.

Keep in kind that if he did not target foreigners and if he killed native Germans who had no notable Left wing political connection, then his actions cannot be held to be inspired by Breivik. These psychos will study other mass shootings for any number of reasons, the most obvious of which is tactics.

Doing this on the anniversary of Breivik could be one of a couple of things:

1. Complete coincidence. There simply aren't that many days in the year.

2. A Muslim committing a false flag in order to take political pressure off of his people. His dual citizenship cannot be ignored. Why would an Iranian national elevate a White Nationalist? It takes no effort to post pics of Breivik as a profile pic, and it means nothing. It simply serves to give the media an excuse to attach this crime to Nationalists. As he would have known. The chances that this crime was committed by an Iranian, and not a German, are minuscule if it was legitimately for reasons of German Nationalism. This is either coincidence or a false flag. Globalist security services or the Whatsapp people could have also created the Breivik profile pic during or after the shooting.

Though, I feel that this should not have to be explained to the wider public. The story is simply: another Near East immigrant executes Germans. Any spin and discussion only helps them cover up, shift blame, and make excuses for what is occurring.

He's not "a German" any more than a White South African is a "native African", no matter how the media chooses to spin this.

Post: #178

I don't get the narrative.

Even the immigrant was sick of immigrants?

Post: #179

No the link to Breivik is only that the shooter admired him for his rampage and probably the high body count. I don't think the shooter was all that political and probably didn't care too much about Breivik's motives.

This is a fucked up, depressed kid on meds who fantasised about going on a rampage.

He responded 'I'm a German' after the onlooker, thinking ISIS, shouted 'fucking foreigners'.

Quote:>Shooter and Balcony man shouting at each other
Balcony Man apparently to people filming: "He's got a gun here the guy has one"
Unseen voice: "Shit/Fucking Turks!"
Balcony Man: "Shit/Fucking Kanacken" (foreigners basically)
Balcony man to someone else : "EY! HE'S GOT A GUN! He has loaded his gun! Get the cops here!"
>Shooter: "I am German."
Balcony Man: "You're a cunt is what you are"
>Shooter: "Stop filming!"
Balcony Man: "A cunt is what you are, what the fuck are you doing?"
>Shooter: "Yeah what, I was born here!"
Balcony Man: "Yeah and what the fuck you think you're doing???"
>Shooter: "I grew up here in the Hartz 4 (unemployment benefits in Germany) area.
Balcony Man and Shooter talk at same time, can't make it out.
>Shooter says something about "Behandlung" which is "treatment" in both medical treatment or just how you treat people,not sure which one he means.
Balcony Man says something like "Yeah treatment is something for you"

Post: #180

(07-23-2016 07:08 AM)joost Wrote:  I don't get the narrative.

Even the immigrant was sick of immigrants?

He was born in Germany, but likely had a dual citizenship.
If he rejected Islam, grew up with a lot of aggressive Turks in school, became more conservative in his viewpoints, then it makes sort of sense.

If he had found more positive groups for association like us, then this might never have happened.

And I am not raising sympathy for the guy. Would have shot him myself and gone for pizza right afterwards. In life you simply must not cross those lines.

Post: #181

(07-23-2016 05:54 AM)rotekz Wrote:  Only one witness who spoke to CNN said they heard 'Allahu Akbar' shouted. It was a busy shopping mall. There should be more witnesses confirming this. Where are they?

Busy not being racist, according to them, the media, and the German police; I'm sure.

Post: #182

(07-23-2016 06:37 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Yeah - if true, then Islam is not responsible for his actions at least this time.

This is conjecture. I feel as if the ethnic pattern of terrorism, to which this man fits, is better evidence than any such conjecture that he wasn't motivated by Islam or a hatred for Europeans.

Quote:Guy was obviously more a secular German than Iranian. (Usually fits my experience with ex-Iranians as I have 4 acquaintances in my circle who are all ex-Muslims and rather spiritually inclined - secular/spiritual just like me).

I don't see how it's obvious.

Quote:His actions thus make much more sense since he made some derogatory statements about foreigners.

This is rationalization that contradicts the pattern.

Quote:All in all - perfectly assimilated German - just a psycho one.

There is no such thing as a perfectly assimilated German. Germans are Germans, and non-Germans are not Germans. Besides, a theoretical "perfectly assimilated (non-racial) German" would not hold dual citizenship to Iran.

Quote:That would also explain him shouting back to the people that "He is German." That statement makes sense.

People can claim anything that they want, but it doesn't make it true.

Quote:Either way - case closed at least with the info we've got.

I don't think so.

And ISIS is not the end-all of militant Islam or other anti-European terrorism.

Post: #183

Was he an apostate having converted to Christianity? He may have been bullied at college by Muslims.

Post: #184

One day, I hope European citizens start to ask...so why aren't there any of these crazy things happening in switzerland, or poland or holland or spain or italy or greece or bulgaria for that matter.

Post: #185

That day is at least 500 "#PrayFor_________"s away.

Post: #186

It now seems that the shooter was bullied for years and years at school by a (surprise, surprise) group of Kosovo and Turk teens.

Therefore he (apparently) set up a trap, enticing them (his former tormentors?) to a McDonald's, under the guise of meeting a cutie.

And... I could bet that one of the victims was the very same Kosovar that, in all likelihood, sold him the Glock? I mean, where would this shy Iranian-German have found the gun if not from a former (Kosovar) school associate?

So, it is, say, not really related to Islam, but to unwanted migrations, the criminal false-State of Kosovo and therefore Clinton.

On the migrant thread I have, repeatedly, warned of the dangers that Kosovar gun-runners and bullies pose to European societies. Thanks to Clinton, Kosovo is a nest of arms-dealing and violence in Europe... and it is my guess that Kosovo indeed is at the heart of this tragic story (targeted at the McDonalds were, allegedly: 3 Kosovar victims, plus 3 Turks... the former school tormentors?? it just seems logical, in a sad way)...

Post: #187

(07-23-2016 07:08 AM)joost Wrote:  I don't get the narrative.

Even the immigrant was sick of immigrants?

Yes, and it is no joke.

If you allow me the generalization, it is like that:

Good migrants (Asians, Iranians, E-Europeans, South-Americans, etc...) are often the very first victims of (mostly) "bad migrants": jobless Kosovars, law-breaking and drug-smuggling Sub-Saharans...

For example in France, it is well-known that Portuguese and Iranians are the first victims (because they are somewhat poor and thus living in suburbs) of bad-migrants (drug-dealing Algerians, "Youssouf-Fofana"-type sub-saharans).

Post: #188

Also, yet another proof that game saves lives.

Because, it appears that the shooter enticed, lured the Kosovars and Turks with the hacked-facebook profile of a cute 14-or so years old girl. Said girl promised them "free stuff and food, but not very expensive".

Yeah, sure. As if a cute teen or woman will invite anyone for free food or free whatever at the McDo... if they had game, the Kosovars would have smelled the honeypot trap!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/mu...-1.2722879

"Ali David Sonboly, had hacked a girl's Facebook account and sent messages advertising a discounted offer to encourage people to come to the fast-food restaurant on Friday afternoon.

Sonboly then went on a shooting rampage at the McDonald's and a nearby Olympia shopping mall before turning the gun on himself.

Seven of the nine victims killed in the Munich shooting were teenagers and nearly all were from outside of Germany, officials said Saturday. Three of the victims were 14, two were 15, one was 17 and another was 19... Three of the victims were from Kosovo, three were Turkish "

Post: #189

(07-22-2016 11:44 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Strange: German reporter was present for both Nice and Munich terrorist attacks. He's married to a Knesset member and ex-intelligence lieutenant for Israeli forces...

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comm...ed_france/

Here are some facts which have already emerged about the Nice attacks:

-another man connected with Israeli intelligence just happened to be sitting in a restaurant table in front of where the truck stopped and has filmed the scene.

http://www.panamza.com/220716-nice-israel-agence/

He was described by MSNBC as a blue-collar "maintenance worker", while in fact he worked for an Israeli state agency run by a high-profile Mossad agent, and before that, he was a security agent for the Rothschild group.

Sylvain Benouaich, a 52-year-old maintenance worker, said he was sitting at a sports bar along a busy Nice promenade when a driver entered an area blocked off to vehicles.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/france-...es-n609706


-the son of an Israeli intelligence service who lives in Nice was told by his father to avoid the area that day:

http://www.panamza.com/wp-content/upload...24x519.png


-an Israeli-American couple who were there for the firework decided to run back to their hotel shortly before the truck rolled through, after the Israeli woman had told her boyfriend that "something was about to come down, we need to get out of here".

https://www.facebook.com/panhamza/photos...=3&theater


-A witness on the scene who was right in front of the truck when it stopped, described the driver as nervous and disoriented, wearing a police uniform: "he was wearing their uniform, blue uniform like the police".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEI7K7yc...e=youtu.be

This site has also published some compromising information related to the Charlie Hebdo massacre, including the suspicious suicide of Helric Fredou, the detective in charge of the case, the night before he was to present his findings.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/26/fredou/

Post: #190

(07-23-2016 09:40 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(07-23-2016 07:08 AM)joost Wrote:  I don't get the narrative.

Even the immigrant was sick of immigrants?

Yes, and it is no joke.

If you allow me the generalization, it is like that:

Good migrants (Asians, Iranians, E-Europeans, South-Americans, etc...) are often the very first victims of (mostly) "bad migrants": jobless Kosovars, law-breaking and drug-smuggling Sub-Saharans...

For example in France, it is well-known that Portuguese and Iranians are the first victims (because they are somewhat poor and thus living in suburbs) of bad-migrants (drug-dealing Algerians, "Youssouf-Fofana"-type sub-saharans).

Around 30 of the 84 dead in Nice were muslim, mostly with origins from north Africa.

http://www.la-croix.com/Religion/Islam/A...1200776578

Post: #191

Feminism and a lack of options sexually are what cause these guys to Crack and go on these killing sprees. Has nothing to do with religion. I think a lot of them are from Muslim backgrounds because those cultures are result in men who are more sexually repressed than those from the west.

90% of the guys are getting 10% of the pussy. Even fat cunts now expect to get laid by hot guys, further distorting the market. Below average guys have no hope in the current sexual market.

Post: #192

(07-23-2016 10:01 AM)_GQ_ Wrote:  Feminism and a lack of options sexually are what cause these guys to Crack and go on these killing sprees. Has nothing to do with religion. I think a lot of them are from Muslim backgrounds because those cultures are result in men who are more sexually repressed than those from the west.

90% of the guys are getting 10% of the pussy. Even fat cunts now expect to get laid by hot guys, further distorting the market. Below average guys have no hope in the current sexual market.

The guy was not Muslim. Actually local born Muslims do slightly better since they are brought up more Red Pill and have little pussy-pedestalizing going on. I saw quite a few of them with very young girls in Germany and Austria recently. They obviously approached and one 17-19yo would hook, which is natural. Then in contrast to what Game aware guys do - they actually date her for longer.

Muslims tend to have problems with getting laid when they are butt-ugly, have super-low-IQ or are otherwise socially abnormal, being a strick believer in Islam does not help either. If you take a look at the UK Pakistani gang rape members you will see most of them being super-ugly - even way below average of the European.

Most average European guys would get laid if they at least approached while showing some balls. Muslim thought patterns are highly faulty, but it instills you part of a useful Red Pill perception about women. Some unenlightened Red PIll newbies even confuse it with the full Red Pill pereption / Neomasculinity, but no - there are many many things missing in the equation. Old-style Christianity as well as the Bible had many Red PIll quotes about women, just as Judaism had. But it takes balance and lucid awareness of the entire processes for it to not become twisted and warped like in Islamic countries (homosexuality, seperation of sexes, sexual aberrations, too much sexual tension created, incestuous relationships due to lack of contact with other sex, too much power given men, genital mutilations, child-marriages etc.)

Either way - the shooter very likely was a virgin - we can be certain of that. If a 17yo girlfriend had sucked him off 2 days ago, then this most likely would not have happened.

If he was introverted, then it explains a few things. When they find out that some of the victims were his former classmates or known youth from his area, then you don't really need to look further for a motive.

The only thing worth interesting is to find out how that Mossad-linked reporter could have been at NICE and in Munich - that would be an interesting angle to explore - heh.

Post: #193

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/am...04415.html

Quote:There are according to the prosecution evidence that the offender had hacked a Facebook account to lure such people in the fast-food restaurant. The message read: "I'll buy you whatever you want, but not too expensive."

In his room, the investigators discovered evidence that the young man has been intensively with the topic Amok apart. A book entitled: "Amok in my head - why students kill" have discovered in his possession the investigators. Digital traces left by the culprits are still under investigation.

Both in the fast food restaurant and the mall shot David S. People. Among the fatalities are many young people: three 14-year-old, two 15-year-old and people aged 17, 19, 20 and 45 years. Among the victims are three women. The victims are all from Munich and the surrounding area, or Foreign tourists were not among the victims.

According to the president of the Bavarian Office of Criminal Investigation, Robert Heimberger, used David S., a 9-mm Glock, the number was sophisticated, the weapon was so obviously illegal. Where the shooter had the gun, is still unclear. A weapon legal permission for the possession of a weapon did not have the culprit.

Rampage happen in Germany as well. Last year was a rampage about 30 minutes away from me where one guy shoot 2 people. Just these days, about 5 kilometeres away police shot at one guy that did not go to work and said he has problems. When co workers visit him he was aggressive. So they did call police and he did attack them with a cutting tool.

Thats the future, that we are nowhere save.

Post: #194

(07-23-2016 09:40 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(07-23-2016 07:08 AM)joost Wrote:  I don't get the narrative.

Even the immigrant was sick of immigrants?

Yes, and it is no joke.

If you allow me the generalization, it is like that:

Good migrants (Asians, Iranians, E-Europeans, South-Americans, etc...) are often the very first victims of (mostly) "bad migrants": jobless Kosovars, law-breaking and drug-smuggling Sub-Saharans...

For example in France, it is well-known that Portuguese and Iranians are the first victims (because they are somewhat poor and thus living in suburbs) of bad-migrants (drug-dealing Algerians, "Youssouf-Fofana"-type sub-saharans).

Indeed, middle class whites can move away to safer suburbs in both Europe and North America.

While slightly poorer 1st and 2nd gen earnest immigrants are doomed to be in the worst areas and fairly reliant on their existing cultural networks.

They have no representative media voice, getting lumped in to the "persecuted minority" bracket (aka pet victims), and rejected by their own kind as "sellouts" trying to be "white" when they work to get ahead.

Of course they're the first to be victimized by subsidized minority thugs in their respective ghetto/banlieue.

Probably also don't have the will to organize politically because they are too busy keeping their heads down and working like dogs to save to escape. Which is not too much of a bad thing, since political organization generally translates into soaking some other group to benefit your own group.

But it means they will continue to get shafted from both sides, and may be separated from their natural allies in the host culture.

Post: #195

CONFIRMED: IT WAS MOSSAD!
Same Israeli photo-propagandist pre-positioned in Nice and now Munich.

Post: #196

That's a story. Amazing:

http://www.welt.de/politik/article157245...oppen.html

Quote:An eyewitness filming the gunman to warn his friends. A backhoe operator saw him from the balcony and tried to stop him with a missile. The gunman opened fire.

It is a shaky video that the madness of Munich probably better described as all press conferences the last 48 hours. In a longer sequence of lone assassin can be seen on the empty parking level of the Olympia shopping center (OEZ) as around waving his pistol, aimless running across the tarmac, an insult duel provides a residents and finally fired in the direction of the mobile filmmaker.

After much hesitation opens a young man. "Yes, the video is of me," he says. The reporter may call only his first name: Mersad. 20 years old. Eight years ago, the man has come to Munich. He grew up in Germany and is a Muslim.

"At first we thought, as a throwing firecrackers," says Mersad, "but then we saw the guy with the gun." At that moment, he had the camera function of its smartphones activated. "I knew that friends of mine were in OEZ, I wanted to warn them of the types, so I have the clip forwarded. That it then comes to the whole world, I couldn't imagine.

The man had reloaded his gun, "and then he immediately shot at our balcony," says Mersad, "two shots, very close over my head, I had total luck, but my father has gotten something."

Mersads father Mersid comes to the door. On the shoulders of 47-year-old stuck a bandage. "I have been released just today from the hospital," says Mersid and shakes his head: "that one can not even live safely in Germany, that is terrible."

Luckily for him, father Mersid has not been taken by the bullets themselves, but only by splinters of ricocheting. But the shock is it still to be considered.

The man had called that he was German and that is not about Islam, to Mersad whose mobile phone has now been seized with the original recordings of the police reminded. "I myself am a Muslim," says Mersad, "but what has happened in France, Belgium and here, that's just sad and inhumane." "This is not Islam," says Mersad, "that's Terror and the Terror has no religion."

If he had not afraid to denounce the assassins so desolate? "That was not me," says Mersad, "that was our neighbor on the floor above."

Thomas Salbey has no problem with the fact that his full name is called. "I'm not afraid of this rabble," says the 57-year-old and leads to the balcony from which one has a good view of the parking deck.

Salbey is still angry. "I've had here last night my evening beer, then I heard shots and then saw this jerk and noticed the gun down there," says the excavator operator. "I even tried to hit him with the beer bottle, but it is there in front splintered on the overpass to the parking lot."

Salbey takes a deep breath: "If I had a gun, I would not have thrown the bottle, but the same given him a headshot, this complete idiot." "You're not very clean, I called, you're an asshole!" Said Salbey recalls, "No, he has since said, I am a German." Then the man had lifted his gun "and bam, bam, bam, there I went to cover."

The full extent of the attack it was not until much later. "That was a psycho who was not quite clean, one has yet seen."

Salbey leaning on the balcony railing and watched the policemen looking on the parking deck for traces. What is he thinking now? "That is always get worse here, that's already the Third World War!"

Actually the Chancellor was to blame for the events as the OEZ. "The Merkel let everyone into the country," complains Salbey, "she always only says we can do that, we can do that."

   

Guess he is one of the wimpy German men.

Post: #197

del

Post: #198

Don't even know where to start with this.

Hi-vis vests on a tac team?? Crazy.
Shorts and sneakers? Never seen anything like this. They had time to put on belt and comms and mask and gloves, get your damn gear on.

Post: #199

It was hot.

Post: #200

I thought they just started handing out mp5's to highway cleanup crews.
Maybe the shooter turned on his texture hack.