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RE: Roger Ailes Is Out @ Fox News Channel
I wonder how many people will quit or follow Ailes, odds are not many.

I don't think many would go against Murdoch.

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Oy vey :

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07-22-2016 01:46 AM
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Boss man acts warmly toward female staff: Sexual harassment.
Boss man acts coldly toward female staff: Sexist Mysoginist.

"The office pleasantries combined with the possibility of promotion bore the assumption of sex for advancement."

vs

"His perpetually cold demeanour indicated that I never had a chance at promotion because I was a woman."
07-22-2016 04:37 AM
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(07-22-2016 04:37 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Boss man acts warmly toward female staff: Sexual harassment.
Boss man acts coldly toward female staff: Sexist Mysoginist.

"The office pleasantries combined with the possibility of promotion bore the assumption of sex for advancement."

vs

"His perpetually cold demeanour indicated that I never had a chance at promotion because I was a woman."

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Supposedly on her first day at work he said to her, "If you want to play with the big boys... you have to lay with the big boys."

If only you knew how bad things really are.
07-22-2016 07:02 AM
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(07-20-2016 06:32 AM)bacon Wrote:  Also, why would Alies risk it all for a post menopause tranny looking bitch especially when you consider all the hot anchors working at fox news?

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07-22-2016 07:31 AM
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Back in July, when this thread started, Fox commentator Gretchen Carlson filed a sexual harassment suit against Fox News and Roger Ailes after her contract wasn't renewed.

Today it was announced that Andrea Tarantos didn't get her contract renewed. So she's doing the same thing. She's now filing a harassment suit against Ailes and Fox.

Two point need to be made:

1). Sexual harassment payoffs are becoming the new alimony.

Firing has become like divorce for women -- a way to cash in. As with marriage cases, there is a lot of grey area. What might have been a humorous exchange in an office or in the living room gets redefined as harassing behavior when they're enemies.

Example? A lot of men and women have jokes along the line of "I've been bad." "Yeah -- you need to be spanked!" These are harmless enough in the kitchen or meeting room. But read aloud in a court of law they can seem positively sinister.

2). Don't be surprised when women who are all about sex make everything about sex.

It's not a coincidence that these lawsuits are related to sex. When a woman's entire working life revolves around how many people are looking at her tits or legs, that doesn't just stop when she gets fired. They find a way to continue getting the same attention. Viewers can't tune in anymore to see their bodies...but they can now hear about them in the news.

Moral: Don't think you can hire a hooker and get away with not paying. Carlson and Tarantos were selling sexual services. Not on a person-to-person level, but to viewers. It might not be the same thing to you and me, but in their minds it is.

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As for these suits themselves, do I think there is any merit? Judging from what I've read, I don't think that's the issue. To determine that, you'd need to have a camera running 24/7 in the office monitoring everyone.

So I think the issue is that nearly anything you say or do in an office to a woman can easily be re-contextualized to sound sexual and/or sinister if that's how they want it to appear.

Should we fear all women, then? No, because most women have some sense of shame. A sense of shame prevents the following from happening:

"Hey gang! I'm making a KFC run. Who wants legs and who wants breasts?"

"OMG! That's harassment! Get him!! Get him!!!!!!!"


Most women would feel embarrassed to behave like this. What kind of women wouldn't? I know! The kind who aren't embarrassed to appear on TV each night in a micro-minis and push-up bras.

This is what Fox brought into the workplace when they hired the journalistic equivalent of strippers. I wouldn't be surprised if the next woman they let go also files a suit. And the one after that.
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08-23-2016 02:31 PM
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RE: Roger Ailes Is Out @ Fox News Channel
Frankly, i see this as a blessing in disguise. If none of this had happened, its unlikely that Ailes would be helping Trump prepare for the first debate with Hillary, as he'd probably join with the other GOP establishment types against Trump. Now that Trump is his only friend, hes basically left with allying himself with him. Remember, Ailes is the same guy who coached Reagan for his debates, so hes no chump. Whether you like trump or hate him, you at least want him to give Hillary Clinton a run for her money, and im quite looking forward to this first debate now that Trump is getting some real coaching
08-23-2016 04:52 PM
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