Post: #651

The Turks are now persecuting whatever Christians are left in Turkey to make the Armenian Genocide complete:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/6950...ns-erdogan

Christians pay price as Turkey turns to Islam after attempted coup

Quote:For others the night presented different opportunities as hardline Muslim Sunnis, whipped up to a frenzy, targeted Turkey’s Christian community.

In Matalya, a sprawling city in Anatolia, once the heartland of Christianity in the East, they targeted a Protestant church.

The word church is a grand term for the small, modern shopfront nestled in the city’s minority Alevi district.

For, despite a tolerant constitution, Protestants are not allowed to build churches in Turkey. Even the name church must be coupled to the non-threatening “association”.

Gangs chanting “Allahu akbar” rounded on it to smash its glass frontage. “The attack on the church was light. But it’s significant that it was the only shopfront attack in those three days,” said its minister, Pastor Tim Stone, last night. “We were the only targets.”

Nor was Matalya alone. In the Black Sea city of Trabzon others attacked the Santa Maria church, smashing windows and using hammers to break down its door.

Post: #652

http://www.news.com.au/world/reports-tur...d7d70f582b

Quote:TURKEY has sent troops to surround the Incirlik air base it operates with the United States — and where a large stockpile of NATO nuclear weapons is held — as rumours fly of another coup attempt.
Unconfirmed reports out of Turkey suggest all entrances to the air base have been blocked by heavy vehicles and troops sent to secure its peremiter.
The Turkish Minister for European Affairs has reportedly sought to reassure local media, stating the mission was just a “safety inspection”.
The Middle Eastern Hurriyet news service is reporting Turkish authorities responded to “intelligence reports” by ordering the move about 11pm Turkish time.
It states ‘riot police’ and armed vehicles have ‘taken precautions’ around the base.

Post: #653

I wonder if the Turks know what US Marines would do to them if ordered to secure the nukes at the airbase and make good the getaway for personnel.

Also, who the hell sends heavy vehicles for a safety inspection?

Post: #654

(07-30-2016 07:00 PM)Samseau Wrote:  The Turks are now persecuting whatever Christians are left in Turkey to make the Armenian Genocide complete:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/6950...ns-erdogan

Christians pay price as Turkey turns to Islam after attempted coup

Quote:For others the night presented different opportunities as hardline Muslim Sunnis, whipped up to a frenzy, targeted Turkey’s Christian community.

In Matalya, a sprawling city in Anatolia, once the heartland of Christianity in the East, they targeted a Protestant church.

The word church is a grand term for the small, modern shopfront nestled in the city’s minority Alevi district.

For, despite a tolerant constitution, Protestants are not allowed to build churches in Turkey. Even the name church must be coupled to the non-threatening “association”.

...

Compare this to Germany where the traitorous authorities are suggesting that there are too many churches for the invaders to feel welcome (you'd think that this was a red flag in the first place) so they actually want to demolish churches and build mosques in their place.

Post: #655

(07-30-2016 07:27 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  http://www.news.com.au/world/reports-tur...d7d70f582b

Quote:TURKEY has sent troops to surround the Incirlik air base it operates with the United States — and where a large stockpile of NATO nuclear weapons is held — as rumours fly of another coup attempt.
Unconfirmed reports out of Turkey suggest all entrances to the air base have been blocked by heavy vehicles and troops sent to secure its peremiter.
The Turkish Minister for European Affairs has reportedly sought to reassure local media, stating the mission was just a “safety inspection”.
The Middle Eastern Hurriyet news service is reporting Turkish authorities responded to “intelligence reports” by ordering the move about 11pm Turkish time.
It states ‘riot police’ and armed vehicles have ‘taken precautions’ around the base.

Erdogan knows that screwing with that base or allowing for it to be screwed with by islamist protesters will be the end of him in an instant.

He's protecting himself by protecting the base, but I would suggest that frantic negotiations are underway for the orderly removal of anything worth waging a war over before Obama announces that they're moving shop to a shiny new and improved base in Whogivesacrapistan.

This is quite huge. If Erdogan is serious about calling out the US as an enemy then this is a total game changer. He really seems to have bought into the idea that Islam is on an unstoppable roll and that being a puppet of the globalist elite is for chumps.

He may well even see himself and his progeny as the future rulers of a worldwide islamic caliphate. He wouldn't be the first person in history to let his pride come before a spectacular fall.

Post: #656

Look what we have here. On August 9th, Erdogan is set to visit Moscow and mend relations with Russia:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...ard-russia

The most interesting part of the article:

Quote:Russia “isn’t just our close and friendly neighbor, but also a strategic partner,” Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Mehmet Simsek, who announced the Aug. 9 visit, said at talks in Moscow with his Russian counterpart Arkady Dvorkovich on Tuesday.

This is a major geopolitical reversal. After 300 years, the Russians finally have a friendly power in control of the Bosporus.

Now it's clear why during the night of the coup, in his first statement, John Kerry did not explicitly condemn the coup. Instead, he said something along the lines of "We are worried, and we want to see this situation resolved and stability and peace returned to Turkey". The coup was probably the last attempt to prevent Turkey falling into the Russian sphere of influence.

I do wonder how exactly are Erdogan and Putin going to divide the cards. Erdogan will most probably have to sacrifice his support to ISIS and end his meddling in Syria, but what will he get in return? A free hand in the Balkans? Something else?

Post: #657

http://katehon.com/news/us-ambassador-me...y-upheaval

Quote:THE US AMBASSADOR MET COUP LEADER THE DAY BEFORE THE UPHEAVAL

The new evidence of the US participation in the coup attempt in Turkey emerged. Greek press published a photo made a day before the coup. It shows the US ambassador in Turkey John Basse together with the Turkish senior officer, who looks like one of the leaders of the coup Col. Ali Yazıcı (former military adviser to President Erdogan). They had a private meeting in Cengelkoy café the day before the coup.

Post: #658

Great discussion about how the coup was likely CIA:

Post: #659

Looks like the CIA theory got a big boost:

The US Ambassador met coup leader the day before the upheaval
http://katehon.com/news/us-ambassador-me...y-upheaval

Post: #660

If the CIA was in on this, how in the hell did they not know Erdogan was keen to them creating a coup ?

That's the one thing that doesn't make sense.

Was there double dealing by Turkish personnel ?

Post: #661

The last batch of Wikileaks exposes tight Hillary financial links with the Gulenists,
-more specifically with Hillary's campaign funding!-

this looks verrrry interesting...





(I'm not familiar with this channel, looks like a legit activist Christian outlet.)

Erdogan is having a great visit with Putin in Russia:

Post: #662

A Turkish basketball player in the NBA is always tweeting about his support for Gulen and in the meantime he tweets about his support for Hillary Clinton too.

https://twitter.com/Enes_Kanter

I understand the fanatical support for Gulen because his supporters are usually fanatical lunatics but it hadn't made sense to me why he was also fanatical about Hillary Clinton.

Now I read here that Gulenists have tight financial links with Hillary.

Interesting.

Post: #663

This appears to be an article based on a hoax:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/08/31/...rkey-coup/

Quote:While the Obama Administration and the CIA officially cling to the fig leaf lie that US intelligence was innocent of any involvement in the failed July 15 coup d’état attempt by the CIA-run Fethullah Gülen organization in Turkey, the truth is coming out from senior US intelligence insiders themselves.

It reflects a huge internal faction struggle within US leading circles in what by all accounts is shaping to be the most bizarre Presidential election year in American history.

The first admission that US intelligence had their hand in the anti-Erdogan coup, a coup launched just days after Erdogan announced a major strategic shift away from NATO and towards Russia, came from Zbigniew Brzezinski.

Brzezinski is one of the most senior members of the US intelligence establishment, a former Obama Presidential adviser and former National Security Council architect of the Jimmy Carter 1979 Mujahideen Afghanistan terror operations against the Soviet forces in that country.

In a Twitter tweet from his own blog, Brzezinski wrote a precis of a new article he wrote for The American Interest magazine. He writes, “The US backing of the attempted coup against the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was a grave mistake that could deliver a major blow to the US reputation.” That’s definitely putting it mildly given what’s unfolding in Turkey since July 15.

...

Notably, the person in the US State Department directly responsible for not only the disastrous US coup in February, 2014 in Ukraine, but also for Turkey, is the hapless neo-con perpetual warrior-ess, Victoria “Fuck the EU” Nuland, wife of neo-con Robert Kagan.

Brzezinski’s candid critique was followed up by an even more detailed expose of US intelligence ties to Fethullah Gülen, charged by the Turkish government with treason and backing the July 15 coup.

There are no such tweets or article. Russian disinformation campaign?

Post: #664

Was just in Istanbul for a few days. Extremely developed and orderly city, helpful people everywhere. However, no one speaks English, not even the people in the service industry (by this I literally mean "not a single word", as hard as it is to envision)! I can't imagine millions of them running through Europe visa-free, it will be a massive fiasco.

On the other hand, seeing their level of development and the balance between Islam and liberalism, I don't think many of them would want to get into Europe in the first place. They seem to be beating it at most metrics that matter.

As for the coup, I saw no signs or mentions of it except for an illustrated propaganda magazine in the plane. The place is calm, as if nothing at all had happened.

p.s. was extremely surprised to see no enhanced security at the airport. I was expecting thorough car/individual checks at least a mile from the airport but nope, no one checks you and you just walk in freely right to the spot where the terrorist attack had occurred just a few months earlier. Strange...

Post: #665

(09-02-2016 12:29 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Was just in Istanbul for a few days. Extremely developed and orderly city, helpful people everywhere. However, no one speaks English, not even the people in the service industry (by this I literally mean "not a single word", as hard as it is to envision)! I can't imagine millions of them running through Europe visa-free, it will be a massive fiasco.

On the other hand, seeing their level of development and the balance between Islam and liberalism, I don't think many of them would want to get into Europe in the first place. They seem to be beating it at most metrics that matter.

As for the coup, I saw no signs or mentions of it except for an illustrated propaganda magazine in the plane. The place is calm, as if nothing at all had happened.

p.s. was extremely surprised to see no enhanced security at the airport. I was expecting thorough car/individual checks at least a mile from the airport but nope, no one checks you and you just walk in freely right to the spot where the terrorist attack had occurred just a few months earlier. Strange...

It is true about no English in Istanbul, as much as it may be strange. Also true that people are nice and helpful - I left some money in a hotel, went back, everything was given back to me, and it had been found by a cleaner...

The interesting thing is that when I was there, everybody wanted to speak with me in French, or, as a kind of last chance, in German. I would say that culturally Istanbul may still be under the influence of France which was the first Christian ally of Turkey....

I do not suppose that many people from Istanbul, which is quite liberal, would like to leave it - it seems to be quite a nice place to live, nothing better than having a house facing Bosphorus, I think.... But that may be rather different for the rural population of Anatolia, which is a power base of Erdogan, and a different Turkey.

Post: #666

Quote:You hear Erdogan's voice recording when you call ANYONE, in the anniversary of attempted coup

Many people on my Twitter feed say that you hear Erdogan's voice mail about anniversary of attempted coup as dialing sound, regardless who you call.

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments..._you_call/