Post: #26

Quote:What is the relation between their end game/goal and Judaism/Zionism/Jewish exceptionalism? Are they simply power-hungry? Are they more like Stalin (self-interest motive) or Hitler (racial-ideological motive)?

There's quite a bit of commentary about that on this page and its links:

http://mailstar.net/oneworld.html

My only comments would be that if it were not one tribe it would be another one, since such has been the case throughout history, and that often "one world, one people" is preached by the outer-party-members, but ethnocentrism quietly practiced by the inner party members.

I'm speaking frankly but with no malice. The underdogs secretly wish to become the overlords, and would behave just as badly, and sometimes even worse when fates reverse fortunes.

Quote:How much of the Muslim world is in their control?

Good question. Sometimes it's hard to decide who is the keeper and who is the kept. You'll notice it's the Saudis who bribe and manipulate our politicians instead of the other way around. Turkey too seems to have a number of countries wrapped around its little finger. Someone posted a photo of Recep Erdogan patronizingly patting President Obama on the cheek, while smirking, and everyone who commented on it just said something along the lines of "yeah, we know...".

The primary divide seems to be Sunni-Shi'a; they're allied to the Sunni faction which is most of the world's Muslims. Iran which is Shi'a majority is outside their control and is scheduled for regime change. Syria has a Sunni majority though at the moment they would prefer to live under Allawi administration than be occupied by agents of Saudi Arabia.

So the answer is: the vast majority.

Post: #27

Q: Who are the antagonists to the globalist elite?

A: The Alex Jones Channel https://www.youtube.com/alexjones/videos

Dallas Police Massacre Part of UN Plan to Overthrow America
https://youtu.be/SA2aMXxNRIE (Great Anti-Soros rant at the end of this Video)

Obama To Cancel Elections With Martial Law Over Incited Race War
https://youtu.be/uCvRzjuR4Ws

OBAMA IS THE BLACK FACE OF THE NWO
https://youtu.be/aoJRyOzQ6JA

MEDIA IGNORES CHICAGO'S HIGH MURDER RATE
https://youtu.be/WD-74JR2rS4

Putin Issues Desperate Warning of WWIII
https://youtu.be/RMMscY7Btus

Here's Why the Globalists Fear Trump
https://youtu.be/X5v_VBi_7LA

Govt's World Wide Fear The Trump
https://youtu.be/aeK80gEZzCk

As illustrated above it is my not so humble opinion that Alex Jones is both the most passionate and prolific antagonist to the Deep Dark State globalist elites as well as a vocal loyal patriot and supporter of Donald John Trump.

Alex Jones & Donald Trump Bombshell Full Interview
https://youtu.be/FJqLAleEnKw

Alex Jones Gets Real With Donald Trump
https://youtu.be/MiCOIYZgcko
Alex Jones has a message for Donald Trump about what he has to do next to defeat the globalists.

Post: #28

(07-09-2016 01:40 PM)Peregrine Wrote:  I don't buy the whole Rothschild conspiracy. They were once powerful, and now they're merely well-off. The reins have been taken over by Soros, Dimon & co.

If you google the richest family in the world, the Rothschild will come up. I took a look at their net worth. Since most of it is private and divided among inheritors, it's hard to estimate. I've seen $350-400 billion. That's a lot. About as much as the 10 richest people combined.

"According to some estimates, the Rothschild family controls assets worth more than $350 billion when each of their personal fortunes is combined." - Investopedia.

"As for specific members of the modern family, Sir Evelyn De Rothschild the British financier has a net worth of $20 billion... As a modern day an empire, the family's total net worth and assets combined have been pegged in the $300 – $400 billion range." - Celebrity Net Worth.

"...because their money has been divided among so many heirs, they never show up on any “Richest People In The World” lists. Their exact net worth remains a mystery, though estimates have it at around $400 billion. One elderly living heir, Sir Evelyn De Rothschild, has an estimated net worth of $20 billion" - hollywoodtake.com

But this one from MSN shocked me:
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/topstorie...v#image=32

Quote:Because the family’s wealth is private, it’s difficult to ascertain its net worth – estimates range from $1 billion to a staggering $700 trillion, split between legions of descendants.

$700 TRILLION. Yeah, you heard that right. I have no fucking idea how the hell their net worth can possibly be bigger than the global GDP (GWP = $75.59 trillion) but this is from msn, owned by Bill Gates' Microsoft so I think it may be onto something. I dunno how anyone ever came up with that estimate, but even if it's bs, the modest estimate of $350 billion is still enough to give them dominance.

The claim that they're merely well-off is, I think, suspect. They're just staying low-key.

Post: #29

^ Best not to let lust for drama & mystery get in the way of the facts. $700 trillion is obviously a typo. The most obvious "richest family in the world" is the House of Saud. An absolute monarchy atop a sandy bowl of oil.

Quote:House of Saud net worth is around $1.4 trillion

Post: #30

(07-14-2016 09:51 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  ^ Best not to let lust for drama & mystery get in the way of the facts. $700 trillion is obviously a typo. The most obvious "richest family in the world" is the House of Saud. An absolute monarchy atop a sandy bowl of oil.

Quote:House of Saud net worth is around $1.4 trillion

Since the MSN list places the Rothschilds above the House of Saud, the highest possible estimate of their net worth has to be bigger than $1.4 trillion. If there is a typo, the correctly typed estimate must be 7 or 70 trillion. That's still a lot. Plus this show up as top answer for a couple of questions in google search, the assertion that it's a typo is far from obvious. A google search for 'Rothschild trillion' also puts this typo theory to suspect (the claim often tossed around is they're worth $500 trillion - doesn't have to be true or even remotely-credible but most likely not a typo). Best not to let aversion to outlandishness get in the way of rigor.

I've stated the facts with great reservation but I'm willing to bet that the Rothschilds are indeed richer than the House of Saud.

One point more in topic is that the fact that it's hard to estimate their net worth, that they're actively trying to hide it, to purposefully stay low-key, means that they're likely involved in something rather shady, and that their lack of visibility is anything but an indication of their decline or loss of supremacy/eminence.


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On a separate point, I thought that Jamie Dimon represents a force distinct from Jewish power, then I learned that his wife Judith Kent is Jewish. But wait, maybe that is just an accident, maybe she just happens to have Jewish ancestry. It doesn't mean he's subordinate to Jewish power, right? Then I learned that...

Quote:http://www.nytimes.com/1983/01/16/style/...pring.html
In May of 1983, they were married. Judy’s father, Robert Kent of Bethesda Md., was a real estate entrepreneur. They were married by a rabbi, as the Kents are Jewish. At the time, Judy was a management trainee with Shearson/American Express and Jamie was assistant to the chairman there.

More likely than not, marrying in accordance with his wife's religion is a suggestion of subordination (to specifically to her, but her tribe); and also an indication that he might have secretly converted.

I speak frankly but with no malice. J.P. Morgan was an Anglo Saxon powerhouse (among the globalist elites). If there is such a power practicing private ethnocentrism, things may not be so bad for whites. But unfortunately his corporation has been taken over by Jews (assuming that it used not to be)
https://thezog.info/who-controls-jpmorgan-chase/

Post: #31

I do NOT think the trillion dollar figure is too outlandish per se. I'm currently reading up on the history of the money changers and central banking:

http://mailstar.net/money-masters.html

All international finance is in private hands, with much cross-ownership between the largest institutions obfuscating who owns what, and indeed no one knows who is behind the scenes. I recommend you check out the link above. It also states that all the giant global media corporations are under control of banks, explaining how information on global finance is kept from the public.

A few families have kept control of the money supply for generations, meaning that they can issue money out of thin air, supply loans to our governments, and collect interest that they use to accumulate even more wealth. No one can audit these institutions: The City Of London for example does not fall under the jurisdiction of London and even has its own law enforcement agency, and the same is true of the virtually unknown-to-the-public central bank of the central banks called the Bank of International Settlements in Basel.

Post: #32

(07-09-2016 05:32 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  What I wanna know is why.

These elites seemingly have everything going for them money-wise. Got bank accounts set up all over the world. Many of them are old (i'm guessing). Why not just enjoy the golden years playing with your grandkids, reading some books, hanging out on the beach or even getting stroked by a Filipinna maid? Are these people really so hell-bent on world domination and subversion that they can't stop and smell the roses for one minute?

They want to eliminate any and all threat to their wealth and power. I noticed that right around 2008 when the bailouts happened was when all the crazy progressive agenda started getting pushed hard. Perhaps they know that the economy is ultimately doomed and they only have a limited amount of time for them to get everything positioned right to enable them to put the one world government in place once the SHTF. Their goal in the short term is to kick the can with bailouts as long as they possibly can to prop up the financial markets. This buys them more time but clearly they have no way of knowing how much longer they can continue to get away with doing this. Someone like Trump would obviously throws a huge wrench in their plans. Could explain why there appears to be a strong sense of urgency to push certain narratives faster than we have ever seen. But at the same time, these narratives are becoming more and more obvious for the average uninformed person to see through because it's becoming too blatantly obvious.

Look at it this way, if these elites are not positioned properly for when the global economic collapse happens (the likes of which the world has never seen), there will be utter chaos and they will potentially lose a substantial amount of property, physical gold/silver, and other real assets since they won't be able to defend their own assets. Roving armed gangs will loot wealthy areas, banks, and other places where items of value can be found.

I think they are in favor of open borders because they are trying to import future soldiers who will overthrow the traditional political structure to instill their one world government. Hispanic, Middle Eastern, and African migrants have much higher birthrates than those in the U.S. which will allow them to grow to significant numbers more quickly. Most of these people have no loyalty to the Constitution or Bill Of Rights so they are easily moldable by the media.

The manufactured racism narrative also plays these migrants into their hands as well as Blacks in the U.S. They are trying to incite a race war and create conditions for terrorist attacks to happen to get these lower classes to do their bidding without coercion.

So instead of having the non-elites of all races working together to overthrow their real oppressors and install what was formerly an uncorrupted U.S. government, they now have set the stage for these lower/middle classes to fight against each other while they sit on the sidelines.

They aren't so much looking for an Islamic government per se, I think the rise of Islamic extremist ideology is something they are trying to capitalize on and use to their advantage in the short-intermediate term. Specifically, to fast track removal of Constitutional rights (guns, freedom of speech), by using terrorism as an excuse for over the top surveillance and security measures. This will be used to silence dissenters to the Marxist one world government they seek to build and force these dissenters to submit to their will. In a collapse or martial law type scenario, I can see the government denying food and water to people who have not turned in guns. I believe there will be a push to create some type of national gun registry. I think someone in Obama's administration has already mentioned doing something to this effect.

Post: #33

Questions: Since there is supposedly a New World Order of which China and Iran are not a part, then:

-Why does the Obama administration deal with China so incompetently and allow China to profit tremendously off the US?

-Why did Obama accept the Iran Nuclear Deal which is hugely disadvantageous for the US and which may pose an existential threat for Israel?

-How do we explain the anti-Israel, pro-Palestine activism on some part of the Left?

Post: #34

(07-16-2016 09:18 PM)Liberty Sea Wrote:  Questions: Since there is supposedly a New World Order of which China and Iran are not a part, then:

Why does the Obama administration deal with China so incompetently and allow China to profit tremendously off the US?

China is a part of the NWO, has always been so. Mao has been groomed for power in a Yale school by Skull and Bones handlers (Mao-The Untold Story, by Chang & Halliday). His inner circle handlers (Sidney Shapiro, Israel Epstein, Sidney Rittenberg, Rewi Alley, Chen Bidi) were NWO operatives who were the equivalents of the Koch brothers or Armand Hammer in the Soviet Union.

China had autonomy because its regime was very efficient at destroying its great cultural heritage, doing to China in a couple of decades what was taking generations to do in the West. It was a breaking ground for Year Zero-type experimental social engineering that even managed to exceed the Soviet model. Only Pol Pot managed to go deeper into communist dystopia.

"After his visit to China in 1973 during the "Cultural Revolution," David Rockefeller said: "One is impressed immediately by the sense of national harmony....The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in history."

http://henrymakow.com/2016/01/The-Histor...ELNsg.dpuf

http://henrymakow.com/2016/01/The-Histor...na%20.html

Quote:Why did Obama accept the Iran Nuclear Deal which is hugely disadvantageous for the US and which may pose an existential threat for Israel?

Iran is not an existential threat for Israel, it is only a regional rival. And it serves an important purpose for Israel, as a divide and conquer tool and counterweight to its Sunni Arab enemies. Israel has managed to destroy Iraq and Syria using US funds and blood by leveraging Iran-led Shiites as a counterweight, going back to the Iran-Iraq war in the 1970s.

Back then, the Shah was replaced because Iran was on the verge of becoming a great regional modern secular power under him. The Shah was starting to outgrow his initial role as a colonial puppet (just like Saddam, Gadhafi and Assad eventually also did decades later).

Thus Khomeini was put in power by the US/UK. Iran's central bank might be outside the global system, but Iran's backwards theocratic regime has been serving a more important purpose of feeding a dialectic regional conflict and of stunting Iran's potential.

Quote:How do we explain the anti-Israel, pro-Palestine activism on some part of the Left?

Two words: controlled opposition. The left (NPR/PBS, BBC, the Guardian the Nation, Chomsky, Amy Goodman/Democracy Now,...) are all controlled opposition. Of course I'm not even going to go into outlets like MSNBC, CNN or HuffPo that even many leftists know are mainstream corporate tools, but few of those actually realize that Chomsky or Goodman also are gatekeepers.

Gilad Atzmon is your man here, LS, on the subversion of the pro-Palestinian cause by the Jewish left:

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2015/6/2...ewish-left

Post: #35

(07-08-2016 09:06 PM)rottenapple Wrote:  Those who practice asceticism, who do not consume, do not feed the system in any way. Suffis, Yogis, hermits, Bahai', Fakirs, Jains,...

When everyone would live as they do, the system would collapse and the global elite with it.

Those eastern new age religions have been imported, customized and set up here by the social engineers to undermine the West's natural religion: Christianity. this goes all the way back to the 19th century and Blavatsky, with the most damage having been done in the 1960s.

https://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01...belong-to/

Not to knock off eastern religions, which evolved to encompass and preserve some of the better local values. The destruction of Christianity in the West is nearly as regrettable as the destruction in a parallel process of Confucian values and Taoist/Buddhist religions in China .

Post: #36

(07-14-2016 09:09 AM)Liberty Sea Wrote:  

(07-09-2016 01:40 PM)Peregrine Wrote:  I don't buy the whole Rothschild conspiracy. They were once powerful, and now they're merely well-off. The reins have been taken over by Soros, Dimon & co.

If you google the richest family in the world, the Rothschild will come up. I took a look at their net worth. Since most of it is private and divided among inheritors, it's hard to estimate. I've seen $350-400 billion. That's a lot. About as much as the 10 richest people combined.

"According to some estimates, the Rothschild family controls assets worth more than $350 billion when each of their personal fortunes is combined." - Investopedia.

"As for specific members of the modern family, Sir Evelyn De Rothschild the British financier has a net worth of $20 billion... As a modern day an empire, the family's total net worth and assets combined have been pegged in the $300 – $400 billion range." - Celebrity Net Worth.

"...because their money has been divided among so many heirs, they never show up on any “Richest People In The World” lists. Their exact net worth remains a mystery, though estimates have it at around $400 billion. One elderly living heir, Sir Evelyn De Rothschild, has an estimated net worth of $20 billion" - hollywoodtake.com

But this one from MSN shocked me:
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/topstorie...v#image=32

Quote:Because the family’s wealth is private, it’s difficult to ascertain its net worth – estimates range from $1 billion to a staggering $700 trillion, split between legions of descendants.

$700 TRILLION. Yeah, you heard that right. I have no fucking idea how the hell their net worth can possibly be bigger than the global GDP (GWP = $75.59 trillion) but this is from msn, owned by Bill Gates' Microsoft so I think it may be onto something. I dunno how anyone ever came up with that estimate, but even if it's bs, the modest estimate of $350 billion is still enough to give them dominance.

The claim that they're merely well-off is, I think, suspect. They're just staying low-key.

The $350-400 billion Rothschild fortune is just the tip of the iceberg. Most of their hidden fortune is constituted by the debt they've accumulated over the last century in the US by owning the Fed*, and over the last two centuries of owning a good part of the Bank of England and many other national central banks.


* well described in Eustace Mullins' Secrets of the Federal Reserve, which might be the most important economic red pill book ever written:

http://arcticbeacon.com/books/Eustace_Mu...e_Bank.pdf

Post: #37

Adolf Hitler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk7F3OYhp4Q