Post: #51

I'll take 4,5 & 7 please.

4. Ageing playboy in a place like a Western European beach town with a couple of young Spanish girlfriends?

5. In an island paradise, surfing, fishing, and boozing?

7. Still traveling the world?

Post: #52

For me the West be out, even if I rolled with serious cash. Ideally, but still realistically speaking, right now I would pick my launch pad somewhere in Asia. A lot of options there where money goes a long way without sacrificing much of quality of living.

I'm thinking of Indonesia (lot's of places to pick there), Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Southern coast of Burma (that place is pure), Taiwan, and Hainan. Also thinking of Southern islands in Japan.

What I'm looking for is an isolated place with clean beaches, small communities with fresh seafood and a good butcher for basic culinary needs. Minimal to no tourists preferred. In other words honest and unspoiled.

Doesn't sound like an International Playboy Lifestyle doesn't it? This would only be my launchpad to recharge batteries and chill with a girl or two that I picked somewhere else.

At these sort of 'out in the sticks' locations, a little waterfront villa would be less than a $100,000 (not sure about Japan and Taiwan though). The property should also be big enough for me the clear a 2500' grass/dirt landing strip for my small amphibian single engine turboprop. The villa would also be close enough to a quiet bay/harbor where I can drop the plane down over water in bad weather and land it without becoming a U-Boat Captain.

Weather wise, location would come down to climate, earthquakes, active volcanoes, typhoons, cyclones, tsunamis, and other undesirable features.

I don't have much info on Hainan but it looks interesting. Geographically it's pretty much in the middle of the action where I could just hop in the airplane and fly over to Thailand, Macau, Hong Kong or Hanoi. For longer trips a quick hop to Haikou, park the plane and board a scheduled flight to anywhere.

The big money pit in this scenario is the airplane. Those toys are expensive to buy and operate, especially with a turbine engine. But it also offers the ability to make money on the side. An amphibian offers amazing accessibility only second to a helicopter with much better reliability, efficiency, and speed. Flying Chinese gamblers from Hainan to Macau, straight from Haikou's downtown marina to casino's marina could be a gold mine. A weekly weekend gambling trip to Macau would cover the operating costs, the villa upkeep, without digging into my saving's account with not much work and party cash to spare. A lot of possibilities with those little bush machines to make spare money on the side.

Post: #53

crackerjack -

"What I'm looking for is an isolated place with clean beaches, small communities with fresh seafood and a good butcher for basic culinary needs. Minimal to no tourists preferred. In other words honest and unspoiled.

Doesn't sound like an International Playboy Lifestyle doesn't it?"

Sounds exactly like The International Playboy Lifestyle to me.

Post: #54

Interesting thread Michael. I had an in-depth conversation with my 53 year old friend who is a big player. Never married, but considering getting married to this one girl, so naturally when I was tweeted this thread, it was so appropriate to ponder the future.

My constantly evolving rough draft of an end-game plan would include:

Several residences through out the world, not only for the variety of women I desire, but for a year-round perpetual pursuit of personal endeavors in the locales I find most appealing from my youth's travels. Multiple citizenships. Not limited to: traversing fine mountain resorts on snowboard, sunny beaches with more booty and bust than SPF, close proximity to family members, access to a plethora of entertainment, enjoying fine dining with masterful chefs, while appreciating local culture and festivities throughout the calendar. It would be a hybrid of playboy version of elements of Ernest Hemingway (minus the writing and daiquiris) with Anthony Bourdain, sprinkled with a bit of Michael Schumacher type pursuits. A tasteful personal collection of fine automobiles ranging from Duesenberg Boat-tail Speedster to Veyron would be ideal, but I would settle for more simple cars that daily drivable with speed. Perhaps a medium sized yacht to spend cruising the French Riviera during F1, Habana nights, and having orgies abroad it off South Florida.

Early to Mid 40s: have at least 2 children, at least 1 male child to preserve my legacy, preferably without the constraints of family law consequences.

Frequent places with good weather to be active to keep my health up throughout the year. No drugs, moderate drinking, lots of Cuban cigars, and generally not giving a fuck.

Post: #55

Unfortunately ill be exiting the game in about 10 years...

Post: #56

Dead, with the hope of being resurrected to do it all over again.

Post: #57

As much as I love this forum I sometimes find it hard to relate to some of the players on here. I love and respect women and look forward to settling down with one. Game for me is just a means to find the perfect women and have a lot of fun on the way. The comradery of being in a relationship is a lot more rewarding than chasing women round the same nightclubs 3 times a week. Not saying I want it now right now but if she comes across sooner than later.. then so be it. A good women is hard to find.
I am edging towards my mid 30's so regular sex with a like minded soul right now is more appealing to me than a ONS every once in while. I have nothing to prove anymore. Plus I get bored of my own company.

Don't ban me for being a Beta. It gets me laid.

Post: #58

Richie: Most of the guys who read me are like you, but they tend to lurk. The guys who post often are usually the more dedicated players. Still, it's good to know that up to the bang, the game that players and relationship guys should have is the same. It's after the first bang where it starts to diverge.

Post: #59

(08-18-2011 08:35 AM)Richie Wrote:  As much as I love this forum I sometimes find it hard to relate to some of the players on here. I love and respect women and look forward to settling down with one. Game for me is just a means to find the perfect women and have a lot of fun on the way. The comradery of being in a relationship is a lot more rewarding than chasing women round the same nightclubs 3 times a week. Not saying I want it now right now but if she comes across sooner than later.. then so be it. A good women is hard to find.
I am edging towards my mid 30's so regular sex with a like minded soul right now is more appealing to me than a ONS every once in while. I have nothing to prove anymore. Plus I get bored of my own company.

Don't ban me for being a Beta. It gets me laid.

The whole point of this forum is to help men achieve their desires with women. If you want a LTR, or marriage, or 100 lays, so be it. I know each type of man has a place on this forum and we can all help each other out by sharing our tactics for handling different parts of the game.

No one should feel ashamed for what they want regarding women. I find that notion absolutely ridiculous.

Post: #60

^ Agreed. I am all of the above! I'm just taking about my personal pipe and slippers 'end game' scenario. I am am certainly not knocking anyones lifestyle approach to women. This forum has been a solid resource for most of my travel plans and game tactics for the past year now with healthy results.
However I do wonder how many players on here have been with a girl long enough to really appreciate the positives over the negatives.

Post: #61

Your positive is another man's negative. You're confusing your nature with everyone else's. Like Samseau implied, go after what you want while not being so quick to judge others.

Post: #62

Fair enough. As you were...

Post: #63

Everytime the thought of settling down with a woman comes across in my mind, this post by Mixx always makes be reconsider it.

Post: #64

(08-18-2011 05:57 PM)blurb Wrote:  Everytime the thought of settling down with a woman comes across in my mind, this post by Mixx always makes be reconsider it.

Exactly.

If I ever consider a LTR I will read that post.
I"d rather hang out with my crack team then settle down with a girl who wants me to do boring shit when I could be working on making money/reading good books/working out/game/etc.

Post: #65

I'm in my end game now.

I'm 50, got married at 35 after many fine years years of women, world travel, dope smoking and mountain climbing. Had a great time, but I must admit, none of those adventures compare to the feeling of having my son grab my hand and drag me off to see his new fort.

I actually never thought I'd get married. So many women wanted to be the little wifey but they were all worthless american trash feminists. Back then it was less well understood that feminists were trash but it was clear enough to me when dating them. Yuck.

Then out of the blue, I found what my buddy jokingly called "the last hot non-feminist chick in the world." An american woman who actually wanted to settle down and be a good wife. Imagine that.

Still American culture is so stunningly fucked-up right now, it's hard to say what will happen next. Civil war maybe. Riots certainly. The rich and powerful are so incredibly stupid and in denial of what is coming at them.

Post: #66

(08-27-2011 01:05 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  Then out of the blue, I found what my buddy jokingly called "the last hot non-feminist chick in the world." An american woman who actually wanted to settle down and be a good wife. Imagine that.

What convinced you to settle with her?

Post: #67

(08-28-2011 01:58 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(08-27-2011 01:05 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  Then out of the blue, I found what my buddy jokingly called "the last hot non-feminist chick in the world." An american woman who actually wanted to settle down and be a good wife. Imagine that.

What convinced you to settle with her?

Well first of all, I made the decision that I wanted to find a wife. I had tired of the girls I was dating or pursuing and wanted a new challenge. I viewed "finding a decent wife and building a family that is not fucked up by american culture" to be a huge challenge that I was ready to step up to.

To me that is step #1, by which I mean, the *man* makes his decision to get married. He doesn't get married because some girlfriend has tricked or sweetalked him into it -- any halfway decent man will have a dozen of these kinds of girlfriends. Fuck all that. The man makes his own decision when he is ready to select a wife, and the kind of woman he's going to commit to (and give his paycheck to for the rest of his life). If he doesn't find a woman worthy of his sacrifice (and there are damned few of them in the modern world) then he doesn't do it. Simple as that.

Anyway I decided I did want to find that, and I was going to make it happen. I talked to a friend who was a brilliant guy, a Rabbi (even though I'm not Jewish). We walked and drank coffee for many days. At the end of that time he proposed that I should write a page or two describing the kind of woman I wanted to be my wife and the mother of my children, (as opposed to the kind of women I had been pursuing until then, which were sluts that I could dispose of without concern.) So I wrote out a few paragraphs, and did it with as much personal honor and integrity as I could.

Lo and behold a week later I ran into this girl while hanging with friends, asked her on a date. We actually wrote a few letters back and forth first, it was kind of nice and old fashioned

Then on our first real date, she steps out the door dressed like a 50-s style brunette movie star...I mean, the woman was an all american knockout, plus sweet as sexy as hell. My knees went kind of weak, hard to explain. I took her to the most expensive restaurant in town and we never looked back after then.

Actually took a while to make the final decision. I'm pretty intellectual and driven, and she just isn't...more of a liberal arts type, not into technology, hardworking but no career really. She was drifting along kind of looking for a man and trying to figure out what to do with her life.

I wasn't sure I could handle that kind of a woman. But her sweetness and the fact that our chemistry was screaming (to this day, just the smell of her gives me an instant raging boner) won out.

Now I laugh thinking how ridiculous it would have been for a high-maintenance intellectual asshole like me to marry a high-maintenance woman. Disaster in the making. I married a sweet patient women who loves kids and likes to cook and is willing to put up with my bullshit. She's got her own of course, but a different flavor so it's a bit more palatable.

One final thing to mention...read a book called "the Selfish Gene". The bottom line is, genetic chemistry rules. If you find a woman who smells great, and makes your pupils dialate and your heart hammer and your blood burn in your veins, that's your genes screaming at you, telling you this woman will make great babies for you. Listen to those genes. They have been choosing mates for hundreds of millions of years, with all that deep magical circuitry in your DNA. They know what they are doing.

It's entirely possible our marriage will fail like so many others. Our society basically baits and tortures married couples, trying to split them up and destroy their family unit. We are surrounded at all times by twisted people who feel bitter about their own failures, and who therefore are always looking for ways to sabotage the few happy examples who make them feel less successful.

My wife is surrounded by bitter divorced women who are looking for very sneaky ways to poison her feelings against men. She resists it and I fight it, but she may yet slip and fall.

It's always the wives who file for divorce...always. And 9 times out of 10 they end up destroying not only their children's happiness, and their family unit, but end up a bitter shell themselves, forever guilty, forever trying to explain or intellectualize why they killed their family and crushed the hearts of their children (which is what happens in a divorce). But that's what our system is set up to create.

Anyway enough ranting. Sorry this is so long guys.

Post: #68

Thanks for sharing.

Post: #69

Last year I broke up with the Brazilian girl I was seeing .
The long distance thing lasted for 2 years,we saw each other for 5 months in that time.
Great,great girl.
Everything I wanted actually:physically my ideal ,as a mother for my (future) kids,companion,support,the whole deal.
But ,I couldn't work out a way to make a sustainable living in Ceara, Brazil. Other than teaching English which would put me at the relative bottom of the scale and difficult to support a family on,with all the problems that screw a relationship that brings.The only other was buying a pousada,but they weren't as cheap as I thought they'd be.
After a while she realised it couldn't work without her spending more time in London.With a young girl it was difficult for her to spend time away,and not an option to bring her as her family is tight ,and the cost too high .

Logistics and cash has a way of fucking things up.
I thought a few months there,a few months here ,it'll be fine.But those plane tickets add up and how much time can anyone take off working a year? 2-3 I could manage,but not 6!
Long distance doesn't work!
But I'm still trying to think of a way.
When you think they're the one it's hard to let it go!

So that WAS my Endgame....Hot,sweet Brazilian wife,cute Brasiliera daughters,some kind of business to sustain us,and drinking a coconut on Futuro beach most weekends.Balanced with a few months back in the UK.

Post: #70

(08-27-2011 01:05 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  Still American culture is so stunningly fucked-up right now, it's hard to say what will happen next. Civil war maybe. Riots certainly. The rich and powerful are so incredibly stupid and in denial of what is coming at them.

I don't think it is the rich and powerful that is the problem, I believe it is:

1) Old form of government that is not adapted to the present society.
2) Liberal media.
3) Leftist ideals have the most political clout in this country.
4) Lack of a REAL culture. The only pieces of culture that exists in America are: white men suck and are too privileged, let's take away their "privileges" until they have none, consumerism and eating lots of food. At the least, this is what the "culture" is like in Phoenix, Arizona.

Those are my problems with the U.S. today. I want to rant about this, but fuck it. I'm 19, smart, white, tall and good looking. I am just gonna move to a country where I can see what this whole "white privilege" thing is all about. I am thinking: Mexico, Brazil, Germany or some Eastern European country.

No reason to stay here. The focus on individualism has left me so disconnected from people that I feel no real stake in this country. Not even that great of one to my parents.

Post: #71

Mr Lemon great story, very inspiring. Hey how old are you and your wife? Do you still feel like you have to run game to keep things strong? Does she ever get jealous? Just a bit curious...

Post: #72

(08-29-2011 02:33 AM)Riker Wrote:  Mr Lemon great story, very inspiring. Hey how old are you and your wife? Do you still feel like you have to run game to keep things strong? Does she ever get jealous? Just a bit curious...

I'm 50 and she's 44. I started dating her when she was 26. Never ever court a woman older than 30 (by definition, she doesn't want to get married bad enough.)

Yes, definately "marriage game" is useful. Wives want their husbands to be alphas, and so they respond to game. The key is not to game your wife in a stupid or fake way way. You are doing it to make your life with her better, to inject some sauce and zing into your life and to feel stronger as a man.

Anyway good game is crucial in all aspects of life. If you are a salesman or a film maker or a high tech dude, or any role you choose in life, it's all about the same basic principles that you are learning here...always be approaching, never take your targets too seriously, etc etc. All essential life skills. Well that's my opinion anyway.

Post: #73

End game for me will be a combination of 2 and 3. Many older friends have moved onto that and seem happy with their choice. For me it will be within the next 10 years that this happens.

Post: #74

(07-26-2011 02:09 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Not sure if we have covered this one before, but I thought it would be interesting.

I don’t really give this much thought, but a post on here made me think of this topic.

By living the life of a Jet Setting International Playboy, how do you think you will end up when you are older?

What does the 4th quarter look like?

1. Married with kids in a suburban hell hole existence? Weekends filled with malls, meals at TGI Fridays, filling up the tank on ever price increasing gasoline? (I doubt many on here want to end up this way.)

2. Drugged out and drunk banging hookers in a far flung third world country like Thailand? (not a bad option)

3. Married with 20 kids in a in a far flung third world country like Thailand? Maybe on some kind of farm with bodyguards and drug stash. (You need to go somewhere cheap to have that many kids).

4. Ageing playboy in a place like a Western European beach town with a couple of young Spanish girlfriends?

5. In an island paradise, surfing, fishing, and boozing?

6. In a 2nd tier Eastern European city, still swooping, but freezing every winter?

7. Still traveling the world?

8. In the nuthouse trying to swoop on the nurses?

9. Don’t care, I will one day walk into gun shots drunk on Prosecco from Italy.

What do you think your End Game will be?

Endings 1 and 3 both end up with having kids. Part of me likes that idea. Perhaps more is better, and ideally sons.

The other options are enticing to an extent, but how else are we to get immortality if not through our family? When my game ends, I will think about my swarms of DNA gaming on through my sons/grandsons/greatgrandsons.

I'm gonna f**ken be dead some day, but my DNA won't.

Post: #75

(08-29-2011 10:42 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  .always be approaching, never take your targets too seriously, etc etc. All essential life skills. Well that's my opinion anyway.

This is an excellent summary of what's needed, simple and easy to remember. I'm going indulge my fetish for acronym creation and state it as

ABANETTS.

Always Be Approaching NEver Take Targets Seriously.

Seriously!

If you're not always approaching, you're out of synch with life, because we all are every second approaching old age and death. If we're not old already. Then just death.