Post: #51

(06-10-2016 08:48 PM)911 Wrote:  

(06-06-2016 06:43 PM)EDantes Wrote:  

(06-06-2016 06:37 PM)weambulance Wrote:  

(06-06-2016 06:18 PM)EDantes Wrote:  In all honesty I'm more sympathetic to Muslims than I am to left-wing SJWs.

Seems a lot of what they hate about the West boils down to left-wing counter-culture anyway.

If we could just get Muslims to move into liberal suburban neighborhoods it might be a good thing in the long run.

Not really. What they hate about the west is that we are not muslim.

The Islamic extremists probably won't accept anyone who isn't of their faith.

Some of the more moderate Muslims however likely object to how far-left ideas such as transgender rights and distortion of male/female relationships have taken over the West; since they share similar Abrahamic values. I'm not an expert on Turkey for example, but I believe they're an example of a moderate Muslim nation.

On the whole I feel that far-left progressivism is a bigger threat to the west than Islamism is, but that's just me.

I'll give you that, in Ontario when degenerate premier Kathleen Wynne
came up with her aggressive "sex ed" curriculum, muslim families were the main people fighting back.

Where the hell were the Italian, Greek, Croatian, Jamaican families?



Also, as some have pointed above, the progressives are the ones shaping immigration policies,
so defeating them solves the problem of cultural and religious dilution through mass immigration.

I think the root of the problem in Europe can be solved by sending back all the muslim and foreign economic refugees,
and by solving the Syrian problem through a brokered deal with Putin and the creation
of a safe zone within Syria, which Trump could achieve. Obama/Clinton and their neocon handlers instead want
continued chaos, wars and backchannel support for radical muslim cults like Isis.

(06-08-2016 07:56 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  To keep my sanity I tried looking at the bright side of it. A Muslim majority is still better than a SJW majority.

Quality of life would probably goes way down and we lose all the European cultural heritage, and the carousel degeneracy + easy sex with hot women will be over, plus discriminatory treatment if you are non-muslim. But also feminists will have to shut the fuck up, wear veils, and might even get executed. No divorce rape law. And polygamy for those who could support it.

Muslim girls are hot too. And if your game is tight you can still game for a blowjob.

Shit, just for seeing feminists being shut off in mass, I'll be happy. Kebab is better than forced-fed feminazi vegan.

Houellebecq's last novel, "Soumission" (Submission), is precisely about this subject of the twin problems
of degeneracy from cultural marxism and Islam in the West. Set in a utopian 2020s France,
the novel is about the ascent to the presidency of a radical muslim party that ends up squashing feminism
and solving unemployment in France by banning women from working and wiping out SJW from academia.
To use the same metaphor someone mentioned earlier, it's like curing the cancer with a nearly debilitating chemotherapy.
Haven't read it yet but it's on my list.

Some of these kids hardly look like innocent children. They have been taught since age 1 to hate Jews and non-Muslims. Their faces have hate at such a young age and they look like they could replace those signs for an AK if asked. What a shame. Of course there are a lot of innocent Muslims who just grew up in the faith without hate for the rest of the world but you have this very loud forceful leadership and movements of them that have aligned with world Communist / Fascist movements and need to be stopped.

History has shown up how to do this. Europe needs to remember why it built fortified structures.

Post: #52

Converting to Islam would only be a temporary solution. If the whole of Europe falls to the Muslims, what do we have? The Middle East. What do they do in the Middle East? Kill each other all the goddamn time for having slightly different takes on Islam, being from another tribe, etc...only way is to destroy it or escape it. Once Europe has fallen the countries that haven't will see what a danger Muslims are and keep them out. Where those countries will be remains to be seen. Hopefully the USA is one of them to carry the torch for Western civilisation.

Post: #53

(06-06-2016 06:31 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

(06-06-2016 06:13 PM)kaotic Wrote:  You can't, you don't, you move.

Moving won't count if you bring a hedonist perspective to your new land. A true stand requires men making a healthy patriarchy a reality. That only happens if a man has faith, friends and family. The three F's are what made Western Civilization.

Family and friends I agree on, faith is an individual choice.

The computer you posted this from was invented long after the separation of Church and State was enshrined in the US Constitution.
All Churches/Mosques are just businesses like the State is, and have and will engage in oppression when the opportunity arises just like the State. Christianity's doctrine is far more in line with Enlightenment respect for individual's rights, but has still gone off the tracks at times.

That is why the founders said every person is born with certain inalienable rights-- not just people who adhere to what you call "faith." "Faith" is used to justify the most murderous and retrograde versions of Islam, so there goes that sacred cow.

Post: #54

(06-07-2016 06:32 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  Shouldn't we rather do everything in our power to encourage the triumph of Islam in Europe and North America?

Flag checks out.

Post: #55

(06-06-2016 06:43 PM)EDantes Wrote:  

(06-06-2016 06:37 PM)weambulance Wrote:  

(06-06-2016 06:18 PM)EDantes Wrote:  In all honesty I'm more sympathetic to Muslims than I am to left-wing SJWs.

Seems a lot of what they hate about the West boils down to left-wing counter-culture anyway.

If we could just get Muslims to move into liberal suburban neighborhoods it might be a good thing in the long run.

Not really. What they hate about the west is that we are not muslim.

The Islamic extremists probably won't accept anyone who isn't of their faith.

Some of the more moderate Muslims however likely object to how far-left ideas such as transgender rights and distortion of male/female relationships have taken over the
West; since they share similar Abrahamic values. I'm not an expert on Turkey for example, but I believe they're an example of a moderate Muslim nation.

On the whole I feel that far-left progressivism is a bigger threat to the west than Islamism is, but that's just me.

One way of evaluating the comparative threats - is it Islam that will win in the long run? Or the left already in the West? - is to run the numbers of demography. After all, reproduction is destiny for the society and culture (and nation).

One study to address this question this way is "How Civilizations Die: (And Why Islam Is Dying Too)" by David P. Goldman.

His argument is that birth dearth is coming FASTER to vast areas of the Muslim world than in the West. (eg, Iran - where the young go to Mosque at rates even less than Brits go to church.)

In part, the decline of patriarchal authority in Islam stimulates the ever more violent forms of radical Islamism. If that is lost, they think, the religion is lost, and with it, its civilization.

I admit to not having read Goldman, yet - but I have read a good deal about this work. I've been newly re-awakened to the problem of birth dearth in trying to develop long-term investment plans. Without it, the latter is so much easier! With demographic decline, it is far, far harder.

To wrap up, while Europe and Japan face certain population decline, newly joined by the (Obamunized) US - the decline among MENA (Middle East, North African) states, plus Pakistan... is faster. The hard question Goldman faces is if this is so, then Muslims will face a rapidly aging but still poor population, unlike us in the West or in China or India. And thus the Muslim world has even less to lose by becoming ever more dangerously violent towards the rest of the world.

Post: #56

This thread reads like "what would you do if you woke up one day in a vat of acid filled with acid-proof piranhas."

Ummm, no.

By the time islam is dominant in my patch of the world I will either be dead from fighting it or have relocated to fight it elsewhere.