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So I searched the forum to find a relevant thread before posting but couldn't find anything. For quite a long time now I seem to be experiencing periodic attacks from my girlfriend for holding certain political views. These views are generally aligned with ROK but will just list a few points to be clear:

• Multiculturalism is shit. Well, I feel that perhaps in 1980 it was okay, or up to a certain point but the way the powers that be are trying to mix the third world into the first world nowadays is creating a divided, less safe, less pleasant society which is a win/lose situation for the migrants/host country.
• Borders are borders. Back in the cold war there were people in watch towers with guns at the border which was a wall or fences with a minefield. Now in Europe they have such a white guilt complex that they can't bring themselves to push back anyone at a border. This is going to slowly but surely destroy Europe as we know it. There is too much inequality and cultural difference in the world to indulge a do-gooder romantic notion that we can save the world through open borders.
• Too much power given to minorities. Various nutters have acquired too much influence in politics over the years. Gays, transexuals etc. Too much celebration of abnormality. While we don't need to be mean to these groups, they are on the fringe not in the centre of society but a few vocal nutters give a different impression.
  

Anyway, I'm not an activist, contribute where I can to political change writing on forums, talking to people, occasional donation but try to stay focused on work, sport and hobbies more than these issues which the individual cannot influence that much.

You see, there's two kinds of people in this world... - those who follow the herd, and those who think for themselves.

The articles on ROK suggest that women do not share these views, as they are emotion-driven rather than rational. This cannot be totally true, listen to a speech by Frauke Petry from Alternative für Deutschland or Marine le Pen from Front National. They are hard core female nationalists. There are several other female members of these two nationalistic parties. Of course a few high profile exceptions does not disprove a rule, although I'm not absolutely convinced that a rule exists. I remain a bit skeptical every time I read an article on ROK about it being a bad idea to have given women the vote, and think that it's probably more of an issue that tax payers should have the same voting rights as welfare sponges than whether women are voting. Also given the restrictions on women in the islamic world, can't really see how it could be a step forward for the west to take the vote away from women.

That's all well and good, but what I'm beginning to wonder is if it's important to share political opinions with one's life partner or not. My gf is not really a bleeding hearts leftie or SJW, but certainly gets very upset if I show any excitement when I notice a headline about Trump winning various elections in the US or what a cool guy the Austrian presidential candidate Hofer is. Certainly I can only listen to a Trump speech in private and not mention having done so.

There are a number of pro-patriarchy articles on ROK and a Black Pidgeon video about female power being bad for society. There is one thing I can take from it which is that it is men rather than women who have a sense of nation and tribe.

Does anyone out there have a red pill girlfriend? Is this important in a relationship, or is it better, or simply enough to seek out likeminded male friends, and humour one's girlfriend's naive politics and avoid confrontations. As it is all my male friends are conservatives, not that we talk about it all the time. Well, a lot of the time Would not sound right somehow to say in the end "we broke up due to political arguments" if the sex and everything else was good..

Post: #2

My GF is Chinese and think's Putin is very handsome. I think I win?

Post: #3

Stadtaffe Wrote:My gf is not really a bleeding hearts leftie or SJW, but certainly gets very upset if I show any excitement when I notice a headline about Trump winning various elections in the US or what a cool guy the Austrian presidential candidate Hofer is.

Exceptions to the rule probably exist, but everyone I know that would get upset at Trump, or a right-winger winning an election, is a SJW. Maybe not some bleeding heart leftie, but a liberal is a liberal nonetheless.

Stadtaffe Wrote:Certainly I can only listen to a Trump speech in private and not mention having done so.

From this sentence I'm getting the impression that your girlfriend is using the power of vagina and forcing you to keep your mouth shut on political issues you care about. Being red pill, you surely know what happens when you allow the woman to take the upper hand in a relationship.

What are her views on other important topics, such as marriage, divorce, gay agenda etc.?

My gf is pretty conservative, almost to the point of being red-pill. For example, she loathes SJWs, feminists, gays etc. and is pretty cool about my admiration for Trump and Putin. Personally, I could never endure a relationship with someone that doesn't share at least some of my values, let alone if she were some leftist freak. If she has problems with me being conservative, she can talk to the hand. Liberal/leftist women are useful only for pump n' dump IMO.

Post: #4

(05-23-2016 03:02 AM)Stadtaffe Wrote:  For quite a long time now I seem to be experiencing periodic attacks from my girlfriend for holding certain political views.

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... but certainly gets very upset if I show any excitement when I notice a headline about Trump winning various elections in the US or what a cool guy the Austrian presidential candidate Hofer is. Certainly I can only listen to a Trump speech in private and not mention having done so.

Put your hand down your pants a have a good feel.
Do you have balls?
If yes, then why do you tolerate this behaviour?

What are these attacks? Does she yell at you? Does she deny you sex? Does she hit you? Does she peg you?

I don't know if you're trolling here or not.

If you're not, stop taking this bullshit and dump her.
In a few months/years you will look back on this situation and you will want to beat your former self for being such a weak emasculated faggot who cowers in fear for his sjw girlfriend.

Yes those are hard words, but it's what you need right now.
You need to wake up and realize how fucked up you relationship is.

(05-23-2016 03:02 AM)Stadtaffe Wrote:  That's all well and good, but what I'm beginning to wonder is if it's important to share political opinions with one's life partner or not.

It's extremely important.
Your political opinions simply reflect your values.
Do you want to live with someone who holds values that are diametrically opposed to yours?
Do you think it is possible to live with such a person for many years, and through hard times?
Do you realize that she does not respect your values and actually hates them?
Are you ok with such a person being the mother of your children and passing her values to them?

And lastly, what is the chance that such a hateful sjw will respect her marriage vows and not divorce rape you?

Post: #5

(05-23-2016 03:31 AM)Fortis Wrote:  My GF is Chinese and think's Putin is very handsome. I think I win?

Chinese girls are pretty cute. They smile, laugh at your jokes, and can't comprehend western feminism.

Post: #6

You girlfriend and you are like water and oil.

(05-23-2016 03:02 AM)Stadtaffe Wrote:  Does anyone out there have a red pill girlfriend? Is this important in a relationship, or is it better, or simply enough to seek out likeminded male friends, and humour one's girlfriend's naive politics and avoid confrontations. As it is all my male friends are conservatives, not that we talk about it all the time. Well, a lot of the time Would not sound right somehow to say in the end "we broke up due to political arguments" if the sex and everything else was good.

The quick answer to your question is Yes; it is important in a relationship. It is not enough to hang out with your like minded friends, only to then go home and have to put up with someone else who you share your life with and hold such opposite beliefs.

Sooner or later, you will break up:
1) She is looking for a replacement, or
2) She will look for a replacement, or
3) You will eventually get sick of putting up with the bullS

And then, who gives a damn why you break up; it is your life and you make your own decisions. "we broke up due to political arguments" if the sex and everything else was good. The sex can be good with a million other women, and it doesn't seem like everything else is going so well.

If you let this happen in your life and you don't put a stop on it in this current relationship, I assure you it will only get worst. I am sorry to be the vehicle of the bad news, but you need a new girlfriend. Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss this further; I have been in your situation.

Post: #7

I just can't stand those types of people so I don't associate with them at all. If/when I decide to have kids I would only procreate with a red pill/conservative woman because I would only raise my offspring as such and in a location that would support that type of upbringing.

If she is only a FB/FWB/plate then it might not matter so much, because she doesn't matter much. But anything regular, or where we would spend time doing things I like to do (as opposed to just banging) would negate pretty much anyone left of center.

They're out there. My current squeeze is a Trump supporting gun owner.

Post: #8

@Khan thanks for the reply good to hear women also come in "conservative". I'm far from keeping my mouth shut, I'm often talking to friends and even new acquaintances about it, it's just that I can't talk to her about it. That is so good to hear that your girlfriend loathes feminists and gays. I feel a distaste myself for gays. I used to have an aunt who used to say she hated feminists. My gf likes to think she is one but I don't really see the evidence paying lip service to the equal pay stuff.

@PhDre it's not as extreme as you are describing. There has never been any yelling until one incident very recently, and she totally apologized for it, it's unlikely to happen again, she knows it will be over if it does.

@Plus Oultre thanks for the measured post.. There is a sense once something is slightly but visibly broken in a relationship that somehow it is the beginning of the end. Somehow I think it is my style to keep some stuff to myself and this was much worse in a previous relationship, the need to censure oneself that is. She seems slightly open to the conservative viewpoint but yeah.. as you said "You will eventually get sick of putting up with the bullS". Don't intend to live the next decade or more in self-censorship, been there, done that. I think I'll have to air some conservative stuff now and then, maybe she will come around, but if it creates discord every time it will be all over red rover.

@P Bateman good to know they're out there! I think that was my prime motivation in writing this post, not to generate a bunch of "you're a wuss" style of responses. Am assuming you're in the US. Is interesting to note that a woman would go out and get herself a gun. I know of some women who have guns but they are farmers, it's not for self-defense or hobby shooting.

I think I might have to socialize a bit more and talk to some conservative women, see what it feels like

Post: #9

(05-23-2016 06:44 AM)PhDre Wrote:  It's extremely important.
Your political opinions simply reflect your values.
Do you want to live with someone who holds values that are diametrically opposed to yours?
Do you think it is possible to live with such a person for many years, and through hard times?
Do you realize that she does not respect your values and actually hates them?
Are you ok with such a person being the mother of your children and passing her values to them?

And lastly, what is the chance that such a hateful sjw will respect her marriage vows and not divorce rape you?

Well said, but this only applies if he is going to Wife her up.

If its just a bang buddy, then who GAF what she thinks about.

Talk about your dick, not politics/religion/philosophy

Post: #10

Exactly what you say. I believe in respect, in all aspects of life. When in a relationship the other person disrespects me, I see the relationship as broke. To give you an analogy; it is like when a vase breaks, you can glue it together but the cracks are there and will always be visible, it will never be the same.

I assume you care about this woman. Not being in your shoes, I have no way to know if you are overreacting, or really seeing a pattern of disrespect. That is for you to find out.

Also, disrespect breads manipulation. A bombastic combination. My recommendation is to keep your eyes open and rationalize everything. In time, you will know what is her true self.

Post: #11

Generally speaking, girls aren't politically well-informed. The ones who think they are usually are liberals, which clearly proves they're not nearly smart as they think they are or they'd be conservatives. Most girls aren't choosing their preferred candidate based on their policies, they choose them based off female herd mentality/group think. To find out who a girl is voting for, you need look no further than who the people around her are voting for. Or, even worse, they align themselves with what some Hollywood idiot believes in because "JLaw's a badass" or some other such nonsense.

The only thing libtard girls are good for is the ol' fuck and chuck. Don't feel bad for them, either. They'll probably feel "empowered" because feminism taught them it's normal to sport fuck like men.

Post: #12

(05-23-2016 04:44 PM)Stadtaffe Wrote:  @PhDre it's not as extreme as you are describing. There has never been any yelling until one incident very recently, and she totally apologized for it, it's unlikely to happen again, she knows it will be over if it does.

Ok, from your post I had the impression that it was worse.

Sadly, I believe that it is not unlikely that it will happen again. Maybe she's holding back now, but don't think that she'll change. Once you increase your commitment (living together, mortgage, marriage, kids,...) expect this behaviour back in full force.

(05-23-2016 04:44 PM)Stadtaffe Wrote:  I think that was my prime motivation in writing this post, not to generate a bunch of "you're a wuss" style of responses.

I was so harsh because I made the same mistake.
I wasted one year in a relation with a sjw. I suppressed my own beliefs and opinions because a pretty girl wanted to have sex with me... Needless to say I was completely miserable in that relationship. Now I want to go back in time and punch my former self in the face for wasting a year of my life.

As for the conservative girls, yes they exist.
My current girlfriend supports Trump and Putin, thinks islam should be banned from Europe, opposes adoption by gay couples, acknowledges that a woman's value comes primarily from her looks, thinks that feminists are simply frustrated because they are useless ugly women, and values family and children over career.
Is she a perfect virgin unicorn? Absolutely not.
She has plenty of flaws, but she is definitely conservative by today's standards and infinitely more pleasant to be with than any liberal/progressive/sjw girl I've been with. (bonus: she's also way hotter than the liberal girls)

In my limited experience, a girl has a greater chance to be conservative if:
- she's pretty
- she comes from the countryside
- her parents are working class (no university education)
- she doesn't attend university

Post: #13

@PhDre thanks for qualifying it.. Good you improved your lot by finding a red pill girl.

I've been with this girl a fair bit longer than one year, feel myself warned..

(05-24-2016 11:45 AM)PhDre Wrote:  Once you increase your commitment (living together, mortgage, marriage, kids,...) expect this behaviour back in full force.

..yes this is why I am scared of these tightening of the screws, eg living together. Worry what it might bring out.

Over the next weeks and months if we stay together I'm going to work on this and monitor it. Not also allow long stretches of my life to go by if emerges it's just a drag and going nowhere.

Will come back in a few weeks or months here and post for help if it goes out of control and I can't find my balls, someone can help me save me from myself!

PS - oh man I fill with anger when I see the left doing the opposite of banning islam from Europe.

Post: #14

All girls are "red pill" whether they realize it or not.

Even the snarky, hair died feminist would secretly fantasize about getting fucked in the bathroom by Vlad Putin before she would the skinny, male feminist vegan who worries that receiving a BJ is some type of "patriarchial microaggresson".

Post: #15

On dating sites, whenever a girl indicates she's "conservative", or better yet "right-wing", she always goes up a few points in my eyes. It's an advertisement of quality -- "this product is undamaged".

Post: #16

(05-23-2016 05:20 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  ...this only applies if he is going to Wife her up.

If its just a bang buddy, then who GAF what she thinks about.

Talk about your dick, not politics/religion/philosophy

^This right here.

Your dick is luring you with the oldest lie in the book. That her behaviour will change for the better with time. It will not. It will become much, much worse.

Like me you're new here. Sometimes this red-pill stuff can be hard to swallow when it comes in big lumps like this, but I have some personal experience in this matter. If you're in a long term relationship and you are not absolutely the captain of that ship then you have fucked up, and truth be told you will never be able to mend the foundations of that relationship short of becoming ultra-masculine and telling her she can either get over it or fuck off.

Like most of us you have been taught your entire life to enter into compromise at the slightest provocation, because everyone is entitled to their opinion and we should all learn to compromise and blah blah blah.

As soon as you murder that fem-centric mindset the world will become a different place. You will realise that you're better off as a celibate master and commander than you ever were as a sexed house pet, and ironically the pussy will come harder and faster in your direction than it ever did before.

Post: #17

PhDre Wrote:My current girlfriend supports Trump and Putin, thinks islam should be banned from Europe, opposes adoption by gay couples, acknowledges that a woman's value comes primarily from her looks, thinks that feminists are simply frustrated because they are useless ugly women, and values family and children over career.

PhDre Wrote:In my limited experience, a girl has a greater chance to be conservative if:
- she's pretty
- she comes from the countryside
- her parents are working class (no university education)
- she doesn't attend university

The part in bold I find interesting. From what I've seen around me, the opposite is true. Almost all good looking women I've known have had liberal political leanings. On the other hand, those few conservative women I know look average at best. Sloppy grooming, unfit, poor posture, wearing jeans & sneakers instead of dresses & shoes etc - they're plane Janes in everything.

I concur with the other points you mentioned. It's not surprising, since modern universities are by and large SJW indoctrination camps.

Post: #18

(05-26-2016 03:39 AM)Khan Wrote:  The part in bold I find interesting. From what I've seen around me, the opposite is true. Almost all good looking women I've known have had liberal political leanings. On the other hand, those few conservative women I know look average at best. Sloppy grooming, unfit, poor posture, wearing jeans & sneakers instead of dresses & shoes etc - they're plane Janes in everything.

I concur with the other points you mentioned. It's not surprising, since modern universities are by and large SJW indoctrination camps.

Hotter women are more likely to be indulged by everyone around them, and conservative values do not exactly thrive in an environment where a person can snap their fingers and get pretty much whatever the hell they want, free, no questions asked.

If there are exceptions for hot conservative women then my best guess is that you'd be looking at someone from a traditional family unit with a 100% alpha male for a father.

Post: #19

One of my plates has feminist leanings. In this ultra-liberal area it's pretty much impossible to find a young woman who doesn't.

I think extreme leftists and SJWs are unsalvageable, but the interesting thing I've noticed about many young women who are of the "milder" variety is that they don't really mind when you call them out on their bullshit; assuming of course you've fucked them once or twice prior. Like most women, a man who won't agree with them and isn't afraid to say so is one that isn't putting them on a pedestal, and this turns them on, regardless of their political affiliation.

If I were to mention to her that I was pleased Trump won some primary she'd probably roll her eyes and say something like "Oh, I'm so happy for you..." but I'd still be banging her 20 minutes later anyway.

Post: #20

(05-26-2016 05:22 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  If there are exceptions for hot conservative women then my best guess is that you'd be looking at someone from a traditional family unit with a 100% alpha male for a father.

You may be on to something here. I remember one girl from my German language class a couple of years ago. She was reasonably conservative and also good-looking, somewhere between a 7 and 8 on my scale. She mentioned her father several times. She claimed they had a good relationship, but that he teased her a lot - I remember she once told us he'd occasionally call her "his little pig".

She had a pretty dominant character, so based on this I guess her father was at least somewhat alpha.

Post: #21

(05-26-2016 05:22 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 03:39 AM)Khan Wrote:  The part in bold I find interesting. From what I've seen around me, the opposite is true. Almost all good looking women I've known have had liberal political leanings. On the other hand, those few conservative women I know look average at best. Sloppy grooming, unfit, poor posture, wearing jeans & sneakers instead of dresses & shoes etc - they're plane Janes in everything.

I concur with the other points you mentioned. It's not surprising, since modern universities are by and large SJW indoctrination camps.

Hotter women are more likely to be indulged by everyone around them, and conservative values do not exactly thrive in an environment where a person can snap their fingers and get pretty much whatever the hell they want, free, no questions asked.

If there are exceptions for hot conservative women then my best guess is that you'd be looking at someone from a traditional family unit with a 100% alpha male for a father.

I think it's a mixed bag so I should've left it out.

Reasons why hot girls are more likely to be progressive:
- They get everything for free, as you pointed out.
- The looks of a girl are correlated with the wealth and social status of her parents in my experience. So a pretty girl has a higher chance of having university indoctrinated parents.

Reasons why hot girls can be more conservative:
- They have less problems with the fact that a woman's value is largely determined by her looks.
- They are under attack from feminists and they see a lot of them for what they are: ugly frustrated women.
- They get non-stop attention from (attractive) men so they don't need to slut up to get attention.
- If they live in a Western-European city, they get constantly harassed by muslim men (real harassment, not the feminist definition of it) so they are more likely to be anti-islam.

Post: #22

^ The best looking women I've met up with from online dating never had anything resembling a phrase like "you should believe feminism is good for men" or any feminist talking points in their profiles, and whatever they thought privately, they certainly never breathed a word of it to me while we were together.

The "6es" all seem to want to forward me xoJane articles. Which I promptly delete.

I don't believe in "red pill" girls. Anti-feminism seems to be gaining some traction among younger women in liberal areas, but I see it as just another manipulation tactic. They're certainly not adopting that philosophy with a man's best interest at heart, and frankly I find them somewhat more worrisome than feminists. Better the devil that I know than the devil I don't.

And if you press them they don't really know what it's about, anyway...no more than a math student who simply reads textbooks and never does the exercises understands mathematics.

The strangest girl I ever met up with from OKCupid said she was an anti-feminist. I've been on some weird dates with a couple girls who struck me as heavily into the narcissistic personality disorder side of things, even one who might have been a kleptomaniac (what lunatic says she likes bar glassware so much that she wants to stuff a couple in her purse? I told her to steal all the glasses she wanted and left), but this girl was the only one who seemed like she might be a straight-up sociopath. I don't think I'll go down that road again.

Post: #23

I used to think political views didn't matter within the confines of a relationship.

I was wrong.

My current girlfriend absolutely loves Donald Trump, is anti-Islam, anti-rapeugee, pro-borders, anti-new world order, pro-family, thinks feminism is a mental illness, believes in traditional gender roles, enjoys being subservient and to top it off, she's disgusted by homosexuality.

As far as pump and dumps, I don't care if they idolize Hillary Clinton. But if there's even a chance that I'm going to end up with someone long term and procreate with them one day - the above views are crucial and I can tell you from experience sharing them with someone within a relationship is very satisfying. Do not compromise your values for anyone.

Post: #24

My wife is disinterested in politics (a good thing IMO), but when Trump made that statement about how he was going to deport all the Muslims she was like "no that's not nice I don't like Trump." That was last November. Then all the rapefugee stuff happened in Europe and a couple months later she changed her mind.

One of my female coworkers is in her thirties and married this tall and well-built alpha-looking man she met when they were 15. She's beautiful to begin with ("beautiful" is a term i hesitate to use with modern women even if physically appealing) but what's really attractive about her is that she understands how men and women do and should fulfill different gender roles and she reinforces those roles when she plans activities, gives advice, etc.. She used to be a soft feminist but got roundly disgusted by the movement when she took a bunch of university courses on gender and women's studies.

Post: #25

(05-25-2016 09:38 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  better off as a celibate master and commander than you ever were as a sexed house pet, and ironically the pussy will come harder and faster in your direction than it ever did before.

Haha there is definitely a tipping point. Am not quite a house pet as we don't live together. There probably will be a bit of "my way or the highway", it's in my personality..