Post: #26

(05-21-2016 08:03 AM)HermeticAlly Wrote:  I've long suspected that these types are far less motivated by sexual deviancy and are driven mainly by narcissism. This is the dead end of a hyper-individualistic society that sows harmful notions of "you can be whoever you want to be" right from birth. They construct a completely contrived identity out of pseudo-academic jargon, then armor themselves in Marxist bullshit, all the result from mental railroading originating with delusional college professors and idiotic internet communities (eg, Tumblr.)

The self-worth they derive from this circle-jerk narcissism is worth more than the pleasure they'd get from sex, hence their 'identities'.

Post: #27

My god... why does they feel compelled to list all of their "identities?" We used to be able to put nuts like that in padded rooms and throw away the key.

Talk about progress...

Post: #28

(05-21-2016 09:01 AM)Mike5055 Wrote:  My god... why does they feel compelled to list all of their "identities?" We used to be able to put nuts like that in padded rooms and throw away the key.

Talk about progress...

"Their?" I beg your pardon, shitlord. Way to to perpetuate your toxic cisheteronormative hegemony.


   


It's hirs, zirs, or xyr. Get it right, you oppressor.

Post: #29

(05-21-2016 08:03 AM)HermeticAlly Wrote:  This stuff is just plain sad. These people are fools - there's not of the wry charm Days Of Broken Arrows describes of old-school deviants. Instead of being weirdos, embracing it, and letting everyone else go on with their lives, they're manufacturing artificially-constructed identities and trying to impose their warped view of reality on outsiders. If these people would just shut up and keep to themselves then I wouldn't give them a moment's thought.

I've long suspected that these types are far less motivated by sexual deviancy and are driven mainly by narcissism. This is the dead end of a hyper-individualistic society that sows harmful notions of "you can be whoever you want to be" right from birth. They construct a completely contrived identity out of pseudo-academic jargon, then armor themselves in Marxist bullshit, all the result from mental railroading originating with delusional college professors and idiotic internet communities (eg, Tumblr.)

There also a strong martyr complex at work here (an aspect of the narcissism you mention). Deliberately making yourself detestable and repulsive, then claiming that all the world rejects you because they're afraid or unenlightened, is a powerful source of narcissistic supply.

The catch is that it's an endless struggle to keep ahead of the curve of what is detestable and repulsive - there are only so many taboos one can break and boundaries one can transgress before people stop caring because they've seen it all already, a hundred times over. And the trick of combining them into "intersectional" patterns is no solution to Peak Freak, as the returns diminish even faster the more boxes one checks - claiming one or two forms of oppression (black and woman, gay and disabled, fat and stupid) is plausible, but the more a bio becomes a buffet plate of hairsplitting, unlikely, contrived, and incompatible oppressions the more transparent the scheme becomes.

Aside: note that Alex-Quan Pham actually misgenders themself in their own bio by using they/them/their as plural rather than singular - the correct phrasing per the chart would be "They is tender and dangerous. They loves mangoes." Etc. And that would make them sound semi-literate, which wouldn't do. I'd guess that since people of this stripe can't ever possibly be wrong about anything related to their individual identity and how they individually choose to express it, if this were pointed out they would claim it's the chart which is incorrect. Any such codification limits and thus erases whole identities with its attempt to codify the practice into a few oppressively coherent rules, especially when such rules wouldn't allow for "fluid" or continually-shifting self-perceptions.

More generally, if the rules for alt-pronouns were coherent and consistent the way the chart presents them, usage would be intelligible to outsiders/normals, and the freaks who demand their use would be far less able to leverage "misgendering" by people they've never met into narcissism-feeding outrage.

Notice the resemblance to how vaguely-written laws are used by corrupt and/or tyrannical regimes.

Post: #30

^^^

Bro you should post more.

Very incisive.

Post: #31

...Yeah.



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Edit: this is my response to these.... things, not to the insightful forum posts above.

Post: #32

I bet the narcissistic martyr complex is a reaction to apathy - in this day and age, most people don't really care if you're gay or whatever. So they act as loud, brash, and obnoxious as they can be, stretching the definition of "tolerance" beyond actual tolerance, lack of hate, or what have you - the SJW definition of the word is nothing less than groveling and total obeisant glorification of their lifestyle. Naturally, people react to the perverts (rolls of the tongue better than their capital-letter salad ID label, doesn't it?) getting in their face with their dumb agenda, and voila! They've just cooked up self-fulfilling victimhood status.

Post: #33

(05-21-2016 01:56 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  Wait.

Dude is trans, but likes putting his dick in chicks... That makes him a lesbian? WTF

Isn't he just a dude that likes to screw women?

I couldn't help wondering about this, too. Given how hard it is to get laid in the Anglosphere for straight men these days, I couldn't help but wonder how tempting it might be to some men to play up their feminine side by dolling up with some lippy, blusher, et.c., and donning a nice dress and playing to the lesbian market instead, albeit it as a "trans" female. My suspicion is the following: The disdain for heterosexual men in the Anglosphere has now reached such a level that some guys have clocked on to the fact that it's easier to get laid as a guy posing as a "trans" pre-op woman than as a straight guy.

I've seen quite a few guys masquerading around Middlesbrough posing as women in the last year or so. There's one guy in particular, with slender arms and a pony tail with a bitchy pout to match, that I often see hanging out with his mum or otherwise strutting his stuff in the malls. I wouldn't mind betting that he's playing it from the angle I've described above, since the women here on Teesside tend to only go for guys with beefcake physiques or who are seriously loaded. By playing to the lesbian set, you're playing to a group of women who - by dint of numbers alone - have far fewer natural choices for pair-ups and, combined with the latent disdain for men and preference for ambiguous sexuality that is widespread in the Anglosphere, you're able to obtain a degree of leverage in a market in which you would be otherwise totally fucked as a skinny man without either celebrity status or serious cash.

Hell, I might even try this trick myself if it does, in fact, work as well as I suspect. Watch this space ...

Post: #34

(05-21-2016 09:01 AM)Mike5055 Wrote:  My god... why does they feel compelled to list all of their "identities?" We used to be able to put nuts like that in padded rooms and throw away the key.

Talk about progress...

Apparently "identities" is a bragging commodity in the la la land that is social justice.

Post: #35

(05-21-2016 08:03 AM)HermeticAlly Wrote:  This stuff is just plain sad. These people are fools - there's not of the wry charm Days Of Broken Arrows describes of old-school deviants. Instead of being weirdos, embracing it, and letting everyone else go on with their lives, they're manufacturing artificially-constructed identities and trying to impose their warped view of reality on outsiders. If these people would just shut up and keep to themselves then I wouldn't give them a moment's thought.

I've long suspected that these types are far less motivated by sexual deviancy and are driven mainly by narcissism. This is the dead end of a hyper-individualistic society that sows harmful notions of "you can be whoever you want to be" right from birth. They construct a completely contrived identity out of pseudo-academic jargon, then armor themselves in Marxist bullshit, all the result from mental railroading originating with delusional college professors and idiotic internet communities (eg, Tumblr.)

Jesus! I wish I could have said that so well. Brilliantly put.

We could laugh them all off, were it not for the fact they are funded by our hard work (tax) and that they have infiltrated the education system, and have open access to the next generation of children.

What should be a dead end laughing stock is a a mechanism whereby we pay for the corruption of our children and society.

Post: #36

Who funds this site? that's a pretty big operation.

Post: #37

(05-21-2016 09:15 PM)911 Wrote:  Who funds this site? that's a pretty big operation.

On the one hand, it may not be quite as big an operation as it appears. A couple years back, I got on the email list of something called "Spark Action", a progressive youth activism group. They appeared out of nowhere, had lots of writers and staff right out of the gate, professional website and emails, etc., and sharing commentary and cross-links between a bunch of other organizations in a similar vein. Very disheartening. I thought, "How will the right ever compete with this - it's only one of hundreds of similar activism organizations spanning every potential political interest?"

Then I looked deeper, and discovered that the staff was shared across several other organizations, and these allies only appeared to be separate entities helping each other and "shouting out" each others' efforts. It became obvious that it wasn't a half-dozen different organizations at work, but maybe ten people in a single organization made to look like a half-dozen. If you start comparing addresses, registered agents, incorporation info and other public data, you find that this is actually very common.

On the other, they'd still need money for it. There are a ton of foundations out there that would be happy to support an operation like this. Political websites and think tanks get a lot of their money via grants from various subject-focused foundations - it's often how wealthy people fund pet causes, as it can serve to sever the paper trail between donor and recipient and thereby shield each side from any controversy attending the other. The left has streamlined this process through things like the Democracy Alliance. It often just takes filling out a grant application, stating how much you want and what you plan to spend it on, and then submitting short, regular status reports to whatever foundation if they support you.

It's tempting, and easy, to just say "George Soros!!" when confronted with a question like this. He gets all the attention as the bogeyman of the right, but he's only one player in a very big network. It's much bigger and much worse than just one Bond-villain billionaire.

Post: #38

(05-21-2016 10:00 AM)Germanicus Wrote:  

(05-21-2016 09:01 AM)Mike5055 Wrote:  My god... why does they feel compelled to list all of their "identities?" We used to be able to put nuts like that in padded rooms and throw away the key.

Talk about progress...

"Their?" I beg your pardon, shitlord. Way to to perpetuate your toxic cisheteronormative hegemony.


It's hirs, zirs, or xyr. Get it right, you oppressor.

The more I look at this, the more I see it as an attempt to rework the English language and think it's about more than transgenderism. I think transgenderism is just the cause du jour, and it's part of a something bigger.

I've said this before, but I'll repeat it: We think in words. So when we lack words or when our vocabulary is poorly formed, we lack nuance of thought. Fewer words means stupid people. People who have wrong definitions of words are equally as stupid.

This is why doctors (for instance) learn countless vocabulary words pertaining to the body. If you can't describe it in detail you sure can't cure it, right?

Political correctness -- and its ugly stepsister "language policing" -- has the effect of removing words and/or replacing them. This alters our thinking. And it becomes insidious. If we stop thinking in terms of "gender," what does that portend, in a larger sense? And is there a larger goal for that?

This is why I'm nonplussed about the men parading as women but horrified at the thought of not being allowed to speak words I KNOW define a specific thing.

Brietbart and others have reported that New York City is seeking to fine businesses that "misgender" transpeople. This is literal language policing.

In other words, you'll get fined for calling a man a man when you KNOW he's a man. This sets a bad, bad precedent. What other words will they be able to fine us for under the banner of discrimination? "Liberal?" "SJW?" "Slut?" "Married?"

This is where we're heading, folks. The man in the dress, I think, is a decoy for a much, much larger problem that's growing...and has an army of useful idiots to promote its cause.

To summarize:
Man in dress: An old archetype.
Not being allowed to say he's a man in a dress: The start of a horrific trend that will shake the very foundations of a society built on the First Amendment.

Post: #39

Double plus good. ^ ^ ^

Post: #40

DOBA, I love your appreciation, understanding & use of words. It's the greatest message & deserves to be put on blast.

Never stop saying it. Never quit repeating it.

Post: #41

Post: #42

(05-20-2016 09:12 PM)eskimobobseal Wrote:  

Post: #43

So the founder is in a psych ward. They let her out of isolation to speak with other people just like her. While in isolation she dreams up a way to share her insanity: a website to talk about how different we all are. She speaks with the others and finds a few willing to help her out.

"Robin Tran is a Vietnamese transgender lesbian comedian and blogger."

Trans lesbian.....So its a man who wants the benefits of being a woman while fucking women.....

"Breeshia is a playwright, poet and essayist who identifies as a queer, sex positive, survivor who loves all things sacred and profane. "

Survivor?

"Ellen Kate is a health educator, sometime writer, and mom."
Someone normal? No...
" For years, Ellen also ran About.com’s LGBT Teens site. Before that, she wrote for Planned Parenthood’s teen website and blogged about sex education for gURL.com."

"Ginny Brown is a writer, sexuality educator, and birth worker. "
So she is a Nurse....right?
"She’s also working toward doula certification and super-excited to help people of all genders navigate pregnancy, birth, and new parenthood. "

"Jennifer Loubriel is a mixed race Afro-Puerto Rican from the Bronx. She is also a queer mujerista and child abuse survivor. "
mujerista? I had to look that one up and after 5 minutes gave up.

"Pidgeon Pagonis is an intersex Chicagoan who believes binaries are better smashed. They, why yes they do prefer gender neutral pronouns, recently received a LGBT Champions of Change Artist award from the White House—and no the White House didn’t include the I. "

<facepalm> Pidgeon?

And "They" am just halfway down.

Post: #44

Holy shit this is hilarious. I had no idea these freaks are actually inventing new personal pronouns that fit their...whatever it is they call their condition.

I browsed through what they have on the site. There is no info about who's financing the whole thing, but for example they have a Health&Body section - as you may already guess, the majority of articles promote fat acceptance in some way:

http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/04/dati...questions/

Quote:Living in a culture that defines my body as unhealthy, a problem, ugly, unhygienic, and unworthy of love makes it that much harder to find a potential partner to value all of me.

No shit Sherlock. Look at the picture of her and (supposedly) her boyfriend, she looks like some wild beast that's about to devour her prey.

Post: #45

she probably expects her love interests to look like Greek gods with perfect abs and ripped biceps. Her on the other and? She can be as fat and disgusting and rotten and ugly as she likes and it's up to everyone else to accept it because she's beautiful just the way she is!!!!

But won't date anyone less than 6'4, of course.

Post: #46

(05-22-2016 09:02 AM)eskimobobseal Wrote:  she probably expects her love interests to look like Greek gods with perfect abs and ripped biceps. Her on the other and? She can be as fat and disgusting and rotten and ugly as she likes and it's up to everyone else to accept it because she's beautiful just the way she is!!!!

But won't date anyone less than 6'4, of course.

This is also complicated even more so because we live within a fatphobic, sizeist society in which there is almost no positive representation of fat sex in the media to reference, learn from, or be aroused by.



Apparently "sizeist" is the new SJW neologism. If someone would rather date someone of a healthy weight than someone who eat's enough each day to feed an African village for a week, they're about to be labeled a bigot now.

Post: #47

Trigglypuff is all over this new sizeism bigotry.

On another note, why is it so hard to write "sizeist" without having to fellate your spellchecker/keyboard?

Spellchecker says...

Post: #48

(05-22-2016 09:02 AM)eskimobobseal Wrote:  she probably expects her love interests to look like Greek gods with perfect abs and ripped biceps. Her on the other and? She can be as fat and disgusting and rotten and ugly as she likes and it's up to everyone else to accept it because she's beautiful just the way she is!!!!

But won't date anyone less than 6'4, of course.

You hit the nail on the head.

In a NORMAL society, these freaks would be deservedly laughed out of town. Now, because CURRENT YEAR or some shit like that, they expect to be taken seriously??

I wish George Carlin was still alive. He would tear them all a new asshole.

Post: #49

(05-22-2016 08:33 PM)They Call Me Mister Tony Wrote:  

(05-22-2016 09:02 AM)eskimobobseal Wrote:  she probably expects her love interests to look like Greek gods with perfect abs and ripped biceps. Her on the other and? She can be as fat and disgusting and rotten and ugly as she likes and it's up to everyone else to accept it because she's beautiful just the way she is!!!!

But won't date anyone less than 6'4, of course.

You hit the nail on the head.

In a NORMAL society, these freaks would be deservedly laughed out of town. Now, because CURRENT YEAR or some shit like that, they expect to be taken seriously??

I wish George Carlin was still alive. He would tear them all a new asshole.

Post: #50

The website is on the verge of shutting down and they've taken to begging for donations to stay afloat. Another example of how the cultural tide has shifted.