Post: #151

Has this "Pope" even read the Bible?

Gospel of Luke Wrote:When the time of the birth drew near the Roman Emperor commanded a census of all the world, and Joseph took Mary to Bethlehem, the city of David, as he was of the House of David. So it came to pass that Jesus was born in Bethlehem, and as there was no room in the town the infant was laid in a manger while angels announced his birth and shepherds worshiped him as Messiah and Lord.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativity_o...el_of_Luke

Joseph and Mary were simply traveling to his birth town (within the same country) for the population census and couldn't find a room to book for that night because of increased demand. They weren't refugees or fleeing their home - in fact they were returning to it!

Post: #152

Oh no. It's far worse than that: https://www.barnhardt.biz/2017/12/19/tol...-perverts/

Quote:#TOLDYA Vatican Nativity Made In Sodomite and Transvestite Shrine – Clear Winking Signal to Sex Perverts
Frank Walker over at Canon212 had a top headline a couple of days ago with a picture of the Blessed Virgin in the Vatican Nativity scene asking a question that several other people had emailed to me – Why does the Blessed Virgin look like a man? I didn’t think too much about it, chocking it up to a poorly executed sculpture, despite the fact that there is clear homoerotica present in the rest of the Nativity scene.

I WAS WRONG.

It turns out that the whole Vatican Nativity scene was commissioned by the Sanctuary of Montevergine, a Benedictine monastery outside of Naples. English reportage on that HERE. Thanks to the eagle-eyed reader in Argentina who alerted me to this and provided the deep links below.

The Sanctuary of Montevergine has long been notoriously and blasphemously claimed as a mascot and meeting place for sodomites and transvestites. Here is an Italian newspaper piece from February of ARSH 2017 describing this. The headline reads: “Gay Outrage: Our Lady Also Siezed: It Happens In Italy, Where and How”.

A false story was started by sodomites that two sodomite men, after being caught, convicted and condemned to death by exposure for their sickening capital crimes by being tied to a tree, were miraculously saved by the Virgin of Montevergine, whereupon the two sodomites… wait for it… promptly celebrated by sodomizing each other because their “love” had been ratified by the Queen of Heaven, or something.

Blasphemy of the sickest and most demonic sort. This blasphemy spread, and now the Sanctuary of Montevergine is used by Italian sodomites as a mascot for gay pride marches and drag queen conventions. The biggest gay pride march at the Shrine of Montevergine, happens, even more blasphemously, on February 2, the Feast of the Purification of the Blessed Virgin.

So the Vatican Nativity scene was made at the Shrine of the so-called “Gay Madonna”, and there is an image of the Icon of the Madonna of Montevergine in the Vatican Nativity scene itself – a CLEAR SIGNAL to the sex perverts that the scene is a a bow to them.

So, to all the people who remarked that the figure of the Blessed Virgin in the Vatican Nativity scene looks really, really masculine, almost like a man in drag (look at the enormous hands!), I think you very well may have been vindicated.

Post: #153

Alrite...what the fuck is going on with Catholics

Post: #154

Quote:“The presence of the Vatican Nativity Scene for us is a reason to be even happier this year,” Antonello Sannini, president of homosexual activist group Arcigay Naples, told LifeSiteNews on Tuesday. “For the homosexual and transsexual community in Naples, it is an important symbol of inclusion and integration.”

They're note even hiding it.

Quote:Alrite...what the fuck is going on with Catholics

Rampant infiltration by the militant gay movement.

Post: #155

Catholicism died with Vatican II. At that point it became overwhelmed with modernists, liberals, queers, etc. Catholicism now is a decidedly anti-European force of darkness in the world. It really can't be reformed at this point, the rot is too deep and pervasive.

Post: #156

Don't worry guys, European, American and Latino Catholics might have been cucked with the rest of 'em, but Asian and African Catholics are refreshingly traditional. They can carry the torch until their first world brethren come to their senses and return to the real faith.

Post: #157

^^^ You're absolutely right about this. The faith is growing like wildfire in Africa, but it seems like I'm meeting more Brazilians who are devout Mormons than Catholics. There's just a huge sense of confusion from the younger generation who hasn't been taught the fundamentals of the faith. In North America and Europe, the faith has almost been completely destroyed... The fact that Cardinal Sarah is now in charge of overseeing the liturgy gives me some hope that there can be a slow global revival of Catholicism.

Post: #158

(12-25-2017 02:41 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Has this "Pope" even read the Bible?

Gospel of Luke Wrote:When the time of the birth drew near the Roman Emperor commanded a census of all the world, and Joseph took Mary to Bethlehem, the city of David, as he was of the House of David. So it came to pass that Jesus was born in Bethlehem, and as there was no room in the town the infant was laid in a manger while angels announced his birth and shepherds worshiped him as Messiah and Lord.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativity_o...el_of_Luke

Joseph and Mary were simply traveling to his birth town (within the same country) for the population census and couldn't find a room to book for that night because of increased demand. They weren't refugees or fleeing their home - in fact they were returning to it!

Frankie is alluding to after Jesus's birth, when Herod received the three Wise Men, who visited him on the way to Bethlehem while following the Christmas Star. They mentioned they were following the prophecy of a king being born in Galilee. Herod therefore sent his troops out to slaughter every newborn in Galilee they could get their hands on; this is the Slaughter Of The Innocents you sometimes hear references to.

Joseph got wind of this via an angel from God, and he took Mary and Jesus and fled into Egypt. That's when they were said to be refugees.

Of course, Frankie expands the definition of "refugee" about as widely as your average neopuritan feminist expands the definition of "rape", but that's another story. Joseph didn't travel to Egypt alone, didn't go seeking better carpentry opportunities, was not looking for Egypt's generous social security scheme, didn't try to bang young Egyptian girls along with 20 of his mates, and wasn't exactly a young man of fighting age resisting a wholesale invasion of Palestine by the Romans. And perhaps most significantly, Joseph, Mary and Jesus went the fuck home after Herod died.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #159

(12-25-2017 02:41 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Has this "Pope" even read the Bible?

Gospel of Luke Wrote:When the time of the birth drew near the Roman Emperor commanded a census of all the world, and Joseph took Mary to Bethlehem, the city of David, as he was of the House of David. So it came to pass that Jesus was born in Bethlehem, and as there was no room in the town the infant was laid in a manger while angels announced his birth and shepherds worshiped him as Messiah and Lord.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativity_o...el_of_Luke

Joseph and Mary were simply traveling to his birth town (within the same country) for the population census and couldn't find a room to book for that night because of increased demand. They weren't refugees or fleeing their home - in fact they were returning to it!

I'll tell you what riles me up:

The average pleb would say "Of course, why should we listen to an old man (Pope Francis) who has CLEARLY backwards ideals on abortion and contraception, how could anyone and WHY should anyone listen to him?"

Pope mentions support of refugees, they'll scream "How could anyone NOT be for that and you're a christian, you not a real christian?"

So when I hear someone who is saying something to that affect, I don't hear Pope Francis or God speaking, I hear the pleb saying "This is what I believe and I will use and crib every off heard comment, headline and view to form a personal opinion that I hope AND will never be challenged"

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Like using the internet as a miraculous resource beyond Facebook, Gmail and TripAdvisor to learn about our existence, while you can before it is shut down and we are all using internet ID that would make sites like this a no go for job reasons.

Like fools.

Post: #160

(05-12-2016 08:07 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  The church must be cucked from the inside. I wonder why there's no protest from other high ranking members of the Catholic Church from around the world. If an Orthodox patriarch tried pulling similar shit he'd be sacked within 24 hours.

Whether you meant "sacked" as in fired, or "sacked" as in violently tackled by a group of angry men, I would believe either one.

Post: #161

It gets worse:

Quote:The interview is headlined, "The Pope: It is an honor to be called revolutionary." (Il Papa: “È un onore essere chiamato rivoluzionario.")

Scalfari says to the Pope, "Your Holiness, in our previous meeting you told me that our species will disappear in a certain moment and that God, still out of his creative force, will create new species. You have never spoken to me about the souls who died in sin and will go to hell to suffer it for eternity. You have however spoken to me of good souls, admitted to the contemplation of God. But what about bad souls? Where are they punished?"

Pope Francis says, "They are not punished, those who repent obtain the forgiveness of God and enter the rank of souls who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear. There is no hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls."

Post: #162

^^^^

DAFUQ

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #163

This guy is straight up blasphemous. Time to get him out. I know the American church wants to do so.

Post: #164

(03-29-2018 05:10 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  It gets worse:

Quote:The interview is headlined, "The Pope: It is an honor to be called revolutionary." (Il Papa: “È un onore essere chiamato rivoluzionario.")

Scalfari says to the Pope, "Your Holiness, in our previous meeting you told me that our species will disappear in a certain moment and that God, still out of his creative force, will create new species. You have never spoken to me about the souls who died in sin and will go to hell to suffer it for eternity. You have however spoken to me of good souls, admitted to the contemplation of God. But what about bad souls? Where are they punished?"

Pope Francis says, "They are not punished, those who repent obtain the forgiveness of God and enter the rank of souls who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear. There is no hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls."

Yes, it's official, the Pope is no longer Catholic. Or even a Christian.

Post: #165

I'm not sure Bergoglio even knows what Hades is, let alone Gehenna.

Even if he believes in annihilation, he should keep that to himself. But I'm sorta glad about one thing: He's showing who he is and what Roman Catholicism is, or has been, for especially now and I would also argue, pretty much since the Franco Roman church became the Roman Catholic Church.

Post: #166

You have to appreciate the irony of a Pope whose beliefs in the hereafter have more in common with those of Martin Luther than with his predecessor.

Post: #167

(03-29-2018 07:27 PM)Canopus Wrote:  You have to appreciate the irony of a Pope whose beliefs in the hereafter have more in common with those of Martin Luther than with his predecessor.

This particular Pope Francis heresy was already covered earlier in this thread -

(11-01-2017 12:01 AM)Aurini Wrote:  So... Anti-Pope Bergoglio is administering while this happens:

For you Protestants: I know we have a major divide, but either Luther was right, or he was wrong. No middle ground on this. The "Pope" is promoting theological multiculturalism.

Like - whatever goes, maaaaaan!

Post: #168

On this matter of Hell, I'm not too inclined to think popey boy is off the mark.

By all means correct me if I'm wrong.
Yet from my understanding, Biblical text details the dead are in a "spiritual sleep state", that no human goes to Heaven anymore.

Then on the Day Of Judgement when the Books are read, all will be judged by God. Those of virtue enter New Jerusalem with God on the new earth.

While those left wanting are consumed in total in the Lake Of Fire...

Post: #169

(03-29-2018 07:58 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  On this matter of Hell, I'm not too inclined to think popey boy is off the mark.

By all means correct me if I'm wrong.
Yet from my understanding, Biblical text details the dead are in a "spiritual sleep state", that no human goes to Heaven anymore.

That's pre-Passion. Post-passion they wake up and go.

Post: #170

More in depth discussion here: https://www.ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2HEAVN.HTM

Post: #171

Quote:It gets worse:

The interview is headlined, "The Pope: It is an honor to be called revolutionary." (Il Papa: “È un onore essere chiamato rivoluzionario.")

A revolutionary; this is no Pope, he's just what the Protestants were: Catholics who wanted to act like Jews.

Remember, this Pope also said:

Quote:“It it has been said many times and my response has always been that, if anything, it is the communists who think like Christians. Christ spoke of a society where the poor, the weak and the marginalized have the right to decide. Not demagogues, not Barabbas, but the people, the poor, whether they have faith in a transcendent God or not. It is they who must help to achieve equality and freedom”.

Hello Pope! The Catholic Church does not endorse communism or modern capitalism! It used to have its own economic values, which were somewhere in the middle. That is, economic development is fine, but there is to be no usury or predatory financial practices. The Church would act as the social safety net when needed, not the state, ruling out socialism and communism.

This guy is out of control.

Post: #172

(03-29-2018 09:24 PM)Super_Fire Wrote:  

Quote:It gets worse:

The interview is headlined, "The Pope: It is an honor to be called revolutionary." (Il Papa: “È un onore essere chiamato rivoluzionario.")

A revolutionary; this is no Pope, he's just what the Protestants were: Catholics who wanted to act like Jews.

Remember, this Pope also said:

Quote:“It it has been said many times and my response has always been that, if anything, it is the communists who think like Christians. Christ spoke of a society where the poor, the weak and the marginalized have the right to decide. Not demagogues, not Barabbas, but the people, the poor, whether they have faith in a transcendent God or not. It is they who must help to achieve equality and freedom”.

Hello Pope! The Catholic Church does not endorse communism or modern capitalism! It used to have its own economic values, which were somewhere in the middle. That is, economic development is fine, but there is to be no usury or predatory financial practices. The Church would act as the social safety net when needed, not the state, ruling out socialism and communism.

This guy is out of control.

Fucking idiot. That whirring noise you hear is the sound of Popes' corpses back to Pius XII hitting 2,000 rpm. John Paul II in particular spent his entire life fighting communists in Poland similar places, forty years later Pope Frankenstein is saying they should've been running things all along.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #173

That said, the Vatican says Frankie didn't say it.

Quote:On Thursday the Holy See stated that a reported interview between Pope Francis and an Italian journalist, which claims the Pope denied the existence of hell, should not be considered an accurate depiction of Francis’ words, but the author’s own “reconstruction.”

A recent meeting between Pope Francis and Italian journalist Eugenio Scalfari, 93, was a “private meeting for the occasion of Easter, however without giving him any interview,” the March 29 communique stated.

“What is reported by the author in today’s article is the result of his reconstruction, in which the literal words pronounced by the Pope are not quoted. No quotation of the aforementioned article must therefore be considered as a faithful transcription of the words of the Holy Father.”

Scalfari, a self-proclaimed atheist, is the founder and former editor of Italian leftist newspaper La Repubblica. In an article published on the site March 29, Scalfari claims that Pope Francis told him, “hell doesn’t exist, the disappearance of the souls of sinners exists.”

Scalfari’s fifth meeting with Pope Francis, it is not the first time he has misrepresented the Pope’s words following a private audience.

In November 2013, following intense controversy over quotes the journalist had attributed to Francis, Scalfari admitted that at least some of the words he had published a month prior “were not shared by the Pope himself.”

In a meeting with the journalists of the Foreign Press Association of Rome in 2013, Scalfari maintained that all his interviews have been conducted without a recording device, nor taking notes while the person is speaking.

Fucking media.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #174

(03-29-2018 09:52 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  That said, the Vatican says Frankie didn't say it.

Quote:On Thursday the Holy See stated that a reported interview between Pope Francis and an Italian journalist, which claims the Pope denied the existence of hell, should not be considered an accurate depiction of Francis’ words, but the author’s own “reconstruction.”

A recent meeting between Pope Francis and Italian journalist Eugenio Scalfari, 93, was a “private meeting for the occasion of Easter, however without giving him any interview,” the March 29 communique stated.

“What is reported by the author in today’s article is the result of his reconstruction, in which the literal words pronounced by the Pope are not quoted. No quotation of the aforementioned article must therefore be considered as a faithful transcription of the words of the Holy Father.”

Scalfari, a self-proclaimed atheist, is the founder and former editor of Italian leftist newspaper La Repubblica. In an article published on the site March 29, Scalfari claims that Pope Francis told him, “hell doesn’t exist, the disappearance of the souls of sinners exists.”

Scalfari’s fifth meeting with Pope Francis, it is not the first time he has misrepresented the Pope’s words following a private audience.

In November 2013, following intense controversy over quotes the journalist had attributed to Francis, Scalfari admitted that at least some of the words he had published a month prior “were not shared by the Pope himself.”

In a meeting with the journalists of the Foreign Press Association of Rome in 2013, Scalfari maintained that all his interviews have been conducted without a recording device, nor taking notes while the person is speaking.

Fucking media.

Well, I hope this is true.

I majored in journalism, I was a journalist, and there's a reason we scribbled quotes in chicken scratch in notepads. It's because sometimes you reconstructed what a person said. In my case, I never did it to make anyone look bad (in fact, people would often tell me to make them sound better and more eloquent if I could) but with great power comes great responsibility, and the ability to use it for nefarious purposes.

One reason I don't really work in that field anymore (only certain feature stuff that is free of leftist agenda). I was just in it to bring people news, not change the world or force my agenda on anyone. The same couldn't be said about my editors.

Post: #175