Post: #26

i think the deeper, more distinguished, controlled, polished, unique voice you have the better.
i've talked to people where i could listen to them speak all day, and others who i tune out immediately.

in my experience, enunciation, accent and meter/pauses and irregularities make you much more interesting and pleasant to listen to, than a whiny voice, sounding like a little girly man. also projecting the voice.

it's like the sirens in the odyssey. you should sound irresistable, as most of game is talking...

Post: #27

Have you ever seen a lion without voice? This is me last night at a club (or rather pit hole with loud music) when i successfully took a girl by hand and sat on a couch but my voice was so weak that she couldn't listen to me. I was using my throat to project my voice in such a loud environment that it still hurts.

Post: #28

I mumble alot. One of my buddies is a lead singer for a rock band. That dude has a cool ass voice. Deep, slightly gravelly, clear, and he never mumbles.

Post: #29

I've noticed that guys with great voices have a huge advantage.

I've seen guys with great voices and weak content get hot girls consistently

and I've seen guys with weak voices and amazing content get nothing

I'd love to have a cool voice like a rapper or a singer or an actor. I think I might get some therapy or coaching in the next few months or so.

Post: #30

Something I read a few years ago that you can try:
1. speak a sentence or two, visualizing your voice is emanating from your mouth
2. repeat, but visualize your voice is emanating from your throat
3. repeat, but visualize your voice is emanating from your belly

Note the difference in voice quality and resonance. Now go through the above again while trying to project your voice at a wall across the room or house - place a recorder there to get a more objective assessment.

Post: #31

I have noticed that speaking with a deeper voice gets me more attention from the girls initially than when I'm speaking with my voice being at my everyday pitch, which is neither high nor very deep.

It's physically tiring to maintain a different pitch, though. I Don't believe there is anything that can be done to change your pitch for good as pitch is controlled by the anatomy of your larynx primarily. You might be able to pull it off for one evening, but everyday...

That being said, it makes more sense to work at other aspects of your speech. Tempo, pauses, pronunciation etc....



Here is an interesting article related to the topic - there seems to be more to the male voice than just pitch.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/DyeHard...d=10983389

Post: #32

(08-22-2011 01:26 PM)sheesh Wrote:  I have noticed that speaking with a deeper voice gets me more attention from the girls initially than when I'm speaking with my voice being at my everyday pitch, which is neither high nor very deep.

It's physically tiring to maintain a different pitch, though. I Don't believe there is anything that can be done to change your pitch for good as pitch is controlled by the anatomy of your larynx primarily. You might be able to pull it off for one evening, but everyday...

That being said, it makes more sense to work at other aspects of your speech. Tempo, pauses, pronunciation etc....

Here is an interesting article related to the topic - there seems to be more to the male voice than just pitch.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/DyeHard...d=10983389

Pitch, as with other qualities of your voice, can be changed, but it requires practice and vigilance initially. It's like having a flaw in your golf swing - it's been there as long as you can remember, and to avoid it, you have to make a conscious effort for a month or more. At some point, it will become natural, it will be your default so to speak. I mentioned earlier in the thread how I unintentionally lowered my pitch, and it's felt completely natural for years.

I've found a voice class close to me starting in a month, so I'm excited to start it. I'll post feedback on it as it comes along. Like I said, I think this is one of those facets of game that is incredibly important, but commonly overlooked. If you've never had a girl repeatedly say "what" to everything you say in a crowded bar, you might not relate.

Interesting link. I wonder if the connection holds among those who weight lift. Eg man A was weaker than B prior to lifting, but is now considerably stronger - does man A sound stronger now? It's possible, given that accuracy was consistent across all samples, including samples where one presumes there'd be lifters.

Post: #33

When I was a sales trainer I used to talk to my reps about voice inflections. That is really the key. Pitch is not as important as how you command your voice. Your voice when in an uncomfortable situation has a tendency to go up at the end of a sentence similar to when you ask a question. In sales and gaming girls (which are very similiar) this comes across to the person you are speaking to as you are questioning yourself. This is not an Alfa trait. Alfa's do not question themselves, they know they are right. Girls are not going to come back saying "that guy was just to unsure of himself." however they are a lot more likely to say "there was just something about that guy I didn't like, I don't know what it is."

In turn what you can do is practice bringing your voice down lower at the end of a sentance or even just keeping it the same tone. Put a recorder in your pocket when you are gaming girls and you will see how you voice changes when you are talking. It has to do with the tightening of the vocal cords when you are uncomfortable. If you are completely relaxed you won't get this effect. Not thinking helps. Deeper voices are not magic, it's just how you command yourself.

Personally I wouldn't waste my time with a voice class. Just watch your inflections.