Post: #1

Where were you guys when I was in my twenties... anyway what the hell, I still look that age. Great work by Roosh & All and I'd appreciate some advice.

God or Buddha or someone good opened a coffeehouse not far from where I live. It is packed til midnight or past with girls predominating maybe 2 to 1. Hardly anyone below a 7. They are mostly summer students and many come on their own. I saw only one guy approach the whole night tonight, and he was a Jesus freak who only had one thing on his mind, and it wasn't what this forum is about, if you get my drift. But....

The Devil (or Satan, or Jesus, or whoever) set this place up so almost everyone has their back to the crowd, facing either the windows, or the stairwell, or the centers of large tables, or the bartender at a very short bar. There are a few wide sofa like benches facing forward, and some small tables -- but I tried those and you are basically frozen out in the room at your own place. Approaching from behind is a weak move. Any advice as to how to work that room? Much appreciated.

Post: #2

(07-17-2011 11:17 PM)newtogame Wrote:  Any advice as to how to work that room? Much appreciated.

1) Use Roosh's idea about setting it up so they're approaching you, and they have to move to blow you off rather than vice versa. There must be intersection points you can [unobtrusively] happen to be where they pass on entering, leaving, going to buy stuff, pick up reading material.

2) If you've got the balls use full-on direct game, just walk up to the side of her table and tell her in a low voice, conspiratorially-- she's so stylish, had to get her number etc. No one knows you don't know her.
I would wait for IOIs before doing THAT.

3) At the cafe where I lurk, a lot of the chicks ride bikes. They smart ones pick stylish and interesting ones, if you're riding a bike it's an interesting conversation-starter and also tends to separate you from the "lower class" less educated guys who use bicycles less. There's always time needed to lock/unlock bike, you can screen her by complimenting her on her bike and if she's responsive it's on. Athletic girls like fucking, too.

Good work seeing opportunity. report back so we can all learn

Post: #3

An old man told me that you learn one thing from anyone you meet.
In this age it could even be by someone online I guess?
The Hydrogonian taught me about something here once and you violate it so bad, its obvious!
So what is your deal?

Not you IKEXACT

Post: #4

???

Honestly, your answer is too complicated for me. Can you explain in English. I really would appreciate tips. We are all beginners at something and won't learn anything without making dumb mistakes and asking stupid questions.

(07-17-2011 11:39 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  An old man told me that you learn one thing from anyone you meet.
In this age it could even be by someone online I guess?
The Hydrogonian taught me about something here once and you violate it so bad, its obvious!
So what is your deal?

Not you IKEXACT

Post: #5

"approaching from behind is a weak move." it doesnt have to be

so if this is a coffeehouse, you can 1) talk to anyone in the line getting coffee, 2) at the section where you add the cream and sugar, 3) take either of those two and sit with them or 4) scan the room for someone you'd want to talk to and sidle up next to her after doing all of the above.... make a passing comment and sit down and chill and chat a bit.

that's how you should work the room.

Post: #6

What up my man. I LOVE doing this BUT i would do direct game if i were you. If they're facing the opposite direction, Turn them toward you. Most women def respond to it considering its a dominant and smooth thing to do . That's all you have to do.

Here's a good demonstration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoNJi3LPXHg

It works like magic. I aint shitting you. Done it a thousand of times and it rarely doesn't work. Its as if they subcionsciously turn to you . Its only trying to talk from behind thats weak. Having them be in a position where they HAVE to face you is powerful.

Another thing is, if one of them is walking by...stop her in her tracks and do your direct line. That usually works well but you have to be confident and self assured to do it well.

If they're sitting down on a table, put your hand on that same table...and wa la...you'll def get their attention

(07-17-2011 11:17 PM)newtogame Wrote:  Where were you guys when I was in my twenties... anyway what the hell, I still look that age. Great work by Roosh & All and I'd appreciate some advice.

God or Buddha or someone good opened a coffeehouse not far from where I live. It is packed til midnight or past with girls predominating maybe 2 to 1. Hardly anyone below a 7. They are mostly summer students and many come on their own. I saw only one guy approach the whole night tonight, and he was a Jesus freak who only had one thing on his mind, and it wasn't what this forum is about, if you get my drift. But....

The Devil (or Satan, or Jesus, or whoever) set this place up so almost everyone has their back to the crowd, facing either the windows, or the stairwell, or the centers of large tables, or the bartender at a very short bar. There are a few wide sofa like benches facing forward, and some small tables -- but I tried those and you are basically frozen out in the room at your own place. Approaching from behind is a weak move. Any advice as to how to work that room? Much appreciated.

Post: #7

Thanks. I like the idea of blocking the lanes and making them talk to me. I'll try that and let you know.

I thought of the direct game idea, but since nobody is approaching, you'd really stand out, and I don't want to be "that guy".

I made friends with a couple of the servers so hopefully with time I'll get them on my side. So far it's been good for a couple of free drinks.

Thanks again.

(07-17-2011 11:39 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(07-17-2011 11:17 PM)newtogame Wrote:  Any advice as to how to work that room? Much appreciated.

1) Use Roosh's idea about setting it up so they're approaching you, and they have to move to blow you off rather than vice versa. There must be intersection points you can [unobtrusively] happen to be where they pass on entering, leaving, going to buy stuff, pick up reading material.

2) If you've got the balls use full-on direct game, just walk up to the side of her table and tell her in a low voice, conspiratorially-- she's so stylish, had to get her number etc. No one knows you don't know her.
I would wait for IOIs before doing THAT.

3) At the cafe where I lurk, a lot of the chicks ride bikes. They smart ones pick stylish and interesting ones, if you're riding a bike it's an interesting conversation-starter and also tends to separate you from the "lower class" less educated guys who use bicycles less. There's always time needed to lock/unlock bike, you can screen her by complimenting her on her bike and if she's responsive it's on. Athletic girls like fucking, too.

Good work seeing opportunity. report back so we can all learn

Post: #8

(4) was just what I was looking for. Obvious once you hear it like all good ideas. Thanks.

(07-17-2011 11:46 PM)hypesession Wrote:  "approaching from behind is a weak move." it doesnt have to be

so if this is a coffeehouse, you can 1) talk to anyone in the line getting coffee, 2) at the section where you add the cream and sugar, 3) take either of those two and sit with them or 4) scan the room for someone you'd want to talk to and sidle up next to her after doing all of the above.... make a passing comment and sit down and chill and chat a bit.

that's how you should work the room.

Post: #9

Great ideas, thanks!

(07-17-2011 11:50 PM)TheWolfHowls Wrote:  What up my man. I LOVE doing this BUT i would do direct game if i were you. If they're facing the opposite direction, Turn them toward you. Most women def respond to it considering its a dominant and smooth thing to do . That's all you have to do.

Here's a good demonstration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoNJi3LPXHg

It works like magic. I aint shitting you. Done it a thousand of times and it rarely doesn't work. Its as if they subcionsciously turn to you . Its only trying to talk from behind thats weak. Having them be in a position where they HAVE to face you is powerful.

Another thing is, if one of them is walking by...stop her in her tracks and do your direct line. That usually works well but you have to be confident and self assured to do it well.

(07-17-2011 11:17 PM)newtogame Wrote:  Where were you guys when I was in my twenties... anyway what the hell, I still look that age. Great work by Roosh & All and I'd appreciate some advice.

God or Buddha or someone good opened a coffeehouse not far from where I live. It is packed til midnight or past with girls predominating maybe 2 to 1. Hardly anyone below a 7. They are mostly summer students and many come on their own. I saw only one guy approach the whole night tonight, and he was a Jesus freak who only had one thing on his mind, and it wasn't what this forum is about, if you get my drift. But....

The Devil (or Satan, or Jesus, or whoever) set this place up so almost everyone has their back to the crowd, facing either the windows, or the stairwell, or the centers of large tables, or the bartender at a very short bar. There are a few wide sofa like benches facing forward, and some small tables -- but I tried those and you are basically frozen out in the room at your own place. Approaching from behind is a weak move. Any advice as to how to work that room? Much appreciated.

Post: #10

Im done