Post: #26

(07-16-2011 09:56 AM)Roosh Wrote:  This is clown game. Jumping in front of the girl like a clown while looking like a clown. He's a good talker (tone, articulation), but the actual content of his game is typical night game fare (cocky/funny). At times I thought I was watching a stand-up routine.

But hey if it works for him then power to him. Thing is try to get an introvert to lay that kind of game. He'll probably have to sniff some some cocaine to duplicate the vibe. This video is for showing off to other PUAs, not to help the "average" guy. I think a lot of guys want a casual day game model that they can do without having to jump up and down and saying things like "You look fucking phenomenal."

Roosh, we're still waiting for pickup videos of you bub. Show us how it's done.

Post: #27

Ok so lets see some videos in this thread that you guys think show better daygame.

I have seen some of the krauser vids and they are good in that he focuses on vibe but it seems way too indirect to me.

As for the haters, post vids of you doing better please.

Post: #28

Quote:Roosh, we're still waiting for pickup videos of you bub.

I have no plans to do pickup videos.

Post: #29

(07-16-2011 10:07 AM)Lumiere Wrote:  Ok so lets see some videos in this thread that you guys think show better daygame.

I have seen some of the krauser vids and they are good in that he focuses on vibe but it seems way too indirect to me.

As for the haters, post vids of you doing better please.

So no one can criticize someone's game unless they have in-field video footage sitting on their laptops? I can't criticize Obama unless I'm the President of another country? I can't criticize a music CD unless I'm a successful musician? Great logic.

I think you're upset that you posted what you thought was great game, and then had it brutally raped by everyone. It's okay man, I'm sure your next contribution will be better received.

Post: #30

(07-16-2011 10:13 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

(07-16-2011 10:07 AM)Lumiere Wrote:  Ok so lets see some videos in this thread that you guys think show better daygame.

I have seen some of the krauser vids and they are good in that he focuses on vibe but it seems way too indirect to me.

As for the haters, post vids of you doing better please.

So no one can criticize someone's game unless they have in-field video footage sitting on their laptops? I can't criticize Obama unless I'm the President of another country? I can't criticize a music CD unless I'm a successful musician? Great logic.

I think you're upset that you posted what you thought was great game, and then had it brutally raped by everyone. It's okay man, I'm sure your next contribution will be better received.

I tried to watch it without passing judgment early and give him the benefit of the doubt but found myself mostly cringing at how bad it was. He did have a few decent improvised lines though.

Post: #31

It's not about being a hater. If someone is going to put yourself out there, and claim to be some kind of an expert on a particular field, then they should be able to back it up, and deal with any criticism that comes their way.

This guy probably does more approaches than 90% of the guys on the forum. But, it doesn't mean that his daygame model is above criticism or one to be emulated.

Except for the first one, he didn't number close the hotter girls. Also, some of the success he had can be attributed to his Canadian accent. And we are talking about the UK here, where as long as you are not spilling lager all over yourself and falling over drunk, you are doing better than the majority of the British guys, and have a pretty good shot of closing the girl.

Post: #32

Finding good pickup vids online is difficult. By that I mean pure natural smooth game that doesnt come across as needy or trying too hard.

I cringe on 95% of all pickup vids I see online

Post: #33

(07-16-2011 09:56 AM)Roosh Wrote:  I think a lot of guys want a casual day game model that they can do without having to jump up and down and saying things like "You look fucking phenomenal."

Exactly

Post: #34

I thought it was good in a way that it showed in a what would be perceived a very difficult environment, oxford street London, that you can stop and get into a conversation with a lot of attractive women. Quite a few of the women did seem interested although whenever they started asking him questions he just seemed to ignore it and put the focus back on them.

He could definitely improve his look but still to me the fearlessness was the main takeaway.

Post: #35

I find it funny how guys can overcome the stress anxiety of opening alot of hot women, yet they havent even fixed the easy things that require no inner self game such as dressing good, good haircut, smooth demeanor ect.

lol Makes no sense to me

Post: #36

He goes on to say :

"Whose the lucky guy, you know....you got a man?"

Seriously?

I get laid A LOT...and now I know why - because that's my competition 90% of the time.

Mixx

Post: #37

Ha, glad I wasn't totally off.

Post: #38

I cringed all the way through it...well I didn't watch it to the end just couldn't take it any more. I'm not saying I'm better as I don't even attempt to approach random girls in the street so fair play to him for that but it's hard to tell if this was staged, whether he had any success other than getting numbers that led nowhere etc.

Post: #39

(07-16-2011 01:34 PM)Gringo Wrote:  I cringed all the way through it...well I didn't watch it to the end just couldn't take it any more. I'm not saying I'm better as I don't even attempt to approach random girls in the street so fair play to him for that but it's hard to tell if this was staged, whether he had any success other than getting numbers that led nowhere etc.

Clearly you have not read his blog.

Post: #40

(07-16-2011 01:37 PM)Lumiere Wrote:  

(07-16-2011 01:34 PM)Gringo Wrote:  I cringed all the way through it...well I didn't watch it to the end just couldn't take it any more. I'm not saying I'm better as I don't even attempt to approach random girls in the street so fair play to him for that but it's hard to tell if this was staged, whether he had any success other than getting numbers that led nowhere etc.

Clearly you have not read his blog.

After watching that who would want to?

edit: I went and read it,, so you could hang out with him for a month for 2000 pounds? Does he make real money at this Lumiere? Im curious..

Post: #41

(07-16-2011 01:37 PM)Lumiere Wrote:  

(07-16-2011 01:34 PM)Gringo Wrote:  I cringed all the way through it...well I didn't watch it to the end just couldn't take it any more. I'm not saying I'm better as I don't even attempt to approach random girls in the street so fair play to him for that but it's hard to tell if this was staged, whether he had any success other than getting numbers that led nowhere etc.

Clearly you have not read his blog.

From that video he accomplished nothing

Post: #42

I'm arriving late to this discussion, so I won't repeat any of the (valid) criticisms of this guy's approach style, fashion sense, or tempo. What I will say is that these daygame videos tend to be pretty cringe-worthy in general for a reason. They follow the old, bombastic model of game that required you to "peacock" and act outrageous to get a girl's attention. Just taping it adds a theatrical dimension to it. It's no surprise that the guy in the video actually has (or had) the suffix PUA at the end of his name. Few of us here would add PUA to end of our names or monickers.

A good daygame approach should be pretty boring to watch. I did one yesterday with a cute restaurant hostess that was standing outside a restaurant. I had a newbie friend with me who heard the whole thing and stood in awe when the girl practically threw her number at me at the end. He said, "it looked so simple from the outside, but I could tell there was a lot of different shit going on at the same time." Subtle = Good. Clown = Bad.

Post: #43

(07-16-2011 02:04 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  I'm arriving late to this discussion, so I won't repeat any of the (valid) criticisms of this guy's approach style, fashion sense, or tempo. What I will say is that these daygame videos tend to be pretty cringe-worthy in general for a reason. They follow the old, bombastic model of game that required you to "peacock" and act outrageous to get a girl's attention. Just taping it adds a theatrical dimension to it. It's no surprise that the guy in the video actually has (or had) the suffix PUA at the end of his name. Few of us here would add PUA to end of our names or monickers.

A good daygame approach should be pretty boring to watch. I did one yesterday with a cute restaurant hostess that was standing outside a restaurant. I had a newbie friend with me who heard the whole thing and stood in awe when the girl practically threw her number at me at the end. He said, "it looked so simple from the outside, but I could tell there was a lot of different shit going on at the same time." Subtle = Good. Clown = Bad.

You 100% get it. Watching my day pickups would be so boring you wouldn't make it all the way through, yet they result in bangs.

All these day game gurus are simply doing what they do at night during the day. That's not day game at all.

I'd bet a lot of money that those guys don't normally day game without a camera on them. They're running such a low percentage style for day that you have to psych yourself up tremendously to duplicate their game.

Post: #44

(07-16-2011 02:19 PM)Roosh Wrote:  All these day game gurus are simply doing what they do at night during the day. That's not day game at all.

A lot of daygame guys dont do night / club game at all and got into daygame because they hate all the BS that goes with clubbing.

Post: #45

(07-16-2011 12:27 PM)Dash Global Wrote:  I find it funny how guys can overcome the stress anxiety of opening alot of hot women, yet they havent even fixed the easy things that require no inner self game such as dressing good, good haircut, smooth demeanor ect.

lol Makes no sense to me

Agreed....

Post: #46

hahaha, to all the comments, which are totally valid. I don't want to jump the bashing train wagon, but the dude is a TOTAL clown. I can bet my last 100 bucks (which usually only go for smokes) that if he dressed like a cheap IT "professional," he would pull 3x pussy. But than, maybe he works for News Corp and planting seeds? What's with Brits these days?

Post: #47

(07-16-2011 02:19 PM)Roosh Wrote:  All these day game gurus are simply doing what they do at night during the day. That's not day game at all.

This is exactly it. This is one of the great misconceptions about day game--one that preserves it as one of the last unadulterated frontiers of modern game for guys that know better.

Stuff that would be considered pretty bold in a loud nightclub comes across as nuclear during the day. It's the equivalent of running up to a girl on the street with a boombox blaring techno music, while blinding her with a strobe light in her face.

Context matters.

Post: #48

I think people running goofy night game routines during the day results from them not understanding the principles behind what they're doing. They read some mainstream PUA shit, go out and act like a clown on ecstasy in a club with moderate success, and assume that the same shit they're doing there will work anywhere because they're completely ignorant of the context.

That said, I can't rip on this guy too much because my own understanding of daygame is pretty limited. All I really focus on is finding a suitable opener (usually some observation about the girl or the current environment), maybe throwing in some gentle teasing, and going for the number, but otherwise I just try to be chill and normal. Roosh, for the love of God please get your daygame book out by early fall so I can run your shit on Michigan Avenue before the Chicago winter sets in.

Post: #49

(07-16-2011 09:56 AM)Roosh Wrote:  cocaine

That guy, and the girls too, being on something is the only way that video could be legit.

At about 8:20 into the video his nose looks burnt and his rhetoric includes talk about cops. It looks overall paranoid.

Maybe he's outside of some party spot in London and editing out "you want a bump babe" which you can follow with just about anything.

If he is outside some all night and into the day party with models walking out, than this guy is a player. If so, I stand corrected on my earlier comments, and I'd kick it with this hair-pie.

Aloha!

Post: #50

hell, doing that shit at night is no better. still gona come off as a needy clown trying way to hard.

Smooth, subtle, witty, charming, indirect, fun / friendly vibe is the way to go imo.

These in ur face needy circus routines are a joke!