Post: #126

(03-29-2016 09:51 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  I think women crave a sense of being owned by a powerful man. Checking her bad behavior shows her that yes, you care enough about her that she can push your buttons, but no, you won't let her walk over you. It shows that you've got standards, and you're ready to drop her over them if she gets out of line. If she respects you at all, she will be afraid of losing you. Fear and power are related, and power is an aphrodisiac to women. Shit testing is part of a woman's nature, and will happen at some point to men that aren't ultra alpha players. If she learns her lesson and shapes up, she's worth keeping around a while longer; if not, she's worth dropping.

Right.

Also, the dynamics of this is completely different depending on what kind of woman she is to you.

Is she just a slampiece? Or do you legitimately want to be in a relationship with her?

A comment like hers can even be designed to test what she represents to you.

The subtext of your response could be "you can do whatever you want and fuck whoever you want". Or it could be "you are my woman, you don't look at other guys and I expect that to be demonstrated in your behavior at all times". However you respond, it gives her information about what you're feeling.

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I'm reading "Extreme Ownership" right now, a book about leadership by two Navy SEALs.

One of the most memorable quotes from the book, about setting and maintaining standards: It's not what you preach, it's what you tolerate.

You don't want to get obsessed about small stuff. But I can see how quietly checking her about it later from a position of strength could sometimes be the correct play.

Post: #127

If you think that a chick that does this has already lost respect for you, whatever you do to fix the situation is too little too late. Her comment is then a symptom of an unfixable problem.

That's one of the bigger problems with the girl as superhero concept.

Where girls are these fixed unchanging and constantly testing alpha detectors, a player has to be perfect at all times.

Not possible.

WIA

Post: #128

While all women are indeed impressionable, they are not playdough.

Anyone who is an adult has already had all of their formative years spent being raised by certain people in certain environments with certain influences.

You can't make every chick like you and treat you how you want by being "alpha" and "controlling frame." Don't expect to change women. What you can do is weed out the ones that don't fit your tastes.

Some girls are just disrespectful, selfish, and unappreciative.

Some girls are not ladylike or graceful.

Some girls have poor ethics and morals.

Etc.

It's not your task to try and "change" them. You just make it clear what you want and see if they follow suit or not. If you're not enjoying a woman then drop her and find others.

Post: #129

@Red_Pillage - I’m not here for the purpose of winning arguments so this will be my only response to this comment. You can have the last word.

Women are irrational humans, not computer programs, therefore they say stupid things all the time regardless of who they respect and admire.

Many experts suggest that 55% of spoken communication is body language, 38% is tone of voice, and 7% is the words spoken. We’ve got the 7% from this situation and we don’t know other details like if she was drinking, what the frame of the relationship was before her comments, if she has jealousy or insecurity issues, etc.

It is easy to understand women’s hypergamy and pragmatic mate choices without assuming that every word that comes out of a woman’s mouth is malicious and the result of her hypergamy.

Yes I have read a lot of the old Heartiste stuff and that is one reason I can differentiate between these concepts and the possibility of an emotional woman speaking before thinking for a few seconds while she is with several of her girlfriends.

The other reason is that I spend much more time talking to, gaming, and fucking women in real life than I spend reading jaded manosphere commentary.

I’ll agree to disagree on the interpretation of the statement from Anabasis’ girlfriend because that isn’t the point. All I'm saying about that comment is:

(03-28-2016 09:52 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  I have no idea whether it was a harmless misjudgment or a deliberate and provocative assault on your self-worth, I'd have had to have been there.

The larger concept I’m talking about is how a lot of guys in the manosphere and an increasing number of guys commenting in this game forum have a negative mindset or scarcity mindset. These guys have a tendency to automatically assume a woman is being malicious without thinking through the situation first. These guys also have a lot of faux “no tolerance” policies that aren’t congruent with real life, i.e. guys on this forum talking about NEXTing any girl who has guy friends.

Frustration and anger with women can be crafted to sound good on an Internet forum but it will wreck your game in real life. I’ve been there, done that, and have the failures to prove it.

I’m not an expert but my experience suggests that the cure for “too much red pill, not enough game” is to spend about 10 times more time practicing game in real life than reading anything from the manosphere that isn't positive and practical game advice.

Post: #130

(03-30-2016 10:44 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  While all women are indeed impressionable, they are not playdough.

Anyone who is an adult has already had all of their formative years spent being raised by certain people in certain environments with certain influences.

You can't make every chick like you and treat you how you want by being "alpha" and "controlling frame." Don't expect to change women. What you can do is weed out the ones that don't fit your tastes.

Some girls are just disrespectful, selfish, and unappreciative.

Some girls are not ladylike or graceful.

Some girls have poor ethics and morals.

Etc.

It's not your task to try and "change" them. You just make it clear what you want and see if they follow suit or not. If you're not enjoying a woman then drop her and find others.

But Game is a magic bullet!

All you have to do is pay hundreds or thousands of dollars to learn from someone, and you can make any girl the girl of your dreams! You can succeed anywhere, even in the most desperate environments, like one where 12 year old boys can be jailed for rape!

Speaking of the Sahara Desert, if you want to learn my secret desert Game, just head to my website ...

Post: #131

Nobody really knows you or your relationship with this girl. Except an important part is that you say she is your girlfriend which means you have a relationship and she should respect you, especially in front of friends.

Every time I read the title of this thread I think

Ugh

If it bothers you enough to ask on this forum, then the answer is simple. Next

Next Next Next.

It shouldn't take 6 pages.

Always be ready to say Next. Don't take stuff you don't agree with. Right or wrong. If you don't like it then that's all that matters and it's unacceptable for you. End of it. Fini

Plus if you think about it then I'm sure this is not the only time.

There are plenty of women waiting for you that will respect you and not do this in front of friends. Go get them and next this girl.

I should also edit this to say - don't make a scene in front of friends. That's not cool. If you think about it that is even worse because that is what she is doing to you.

Tell her you need to talk with her at the right time and move her away or wait till the friends leave.

Respect is everything in a relationship and you deserve it. Times 10 in front of friends.

Don't make excuses for this girl. You will be wasting time with this one when there are better ones waiting.