Post: #226

(04-03-2018 09:37 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Nah - every country can be taken over by a hostile elite and be destroyed from within.

Sure, but in the case of the West, where does the "hostile elite" come from? From places like Harvard, Yale, Princeton etc. They are raised and taught by Western parents and professors.

Clinton and Obama are not shadowy figures. They come from the ranks of the public, albeit from more privileged backgrounds.

The politicians suck because the people suck. Gotta stop making excuses about "globalists" and just face that fact.

Post: #227

(04-03-2018 10:57 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 09:37 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Nah - every country can be taken over by a hostile elite and be destroyed from within.

Sure, but in the case of the West, where does the "hostile elite" come from? From places like Harvard, Yale, Princeton etc. They are raised and taught by Western parents and professors.

Clinton and Obama are not shadowy figures. They come from the ranks of the public, albeit from more privileged backgrounds.

The politicians suck because the people suck. Gotta stop making excuses about "globalists" and just face that fact.

There is clever long-term propaganda that the West fell for - besides - it's not 100% certain that the globalists will get away with it. They had a good run in the shadows, but it takes more to implement the final stages. That is why they are pumping the West full with non-Whites, so they can get it all through with far less resistance and a highly divided population. For most countries in Southamerica they don't need to do anything of that - the people are all meat on the table anyway.

There is also the mind-numbingly stupid propaganda that countries like Venezuela fell for. Also the net results of productivity in the country is also instantly different. If you honestly believe that if you replaced all the people in Honduras by native Germans or white Americans and that you would get IDENTICAL ECONOMIC RESULTS, then I cannot help you man. You need to put on some reality goggles.

Post: #228

Who created this clever propaganda? You say "globalists". Okay, fine. I'm not necessarily in disagreement and I admit that there exists a ruling class/elite, whatever you wanna call it.

My point is this "elite" consists of people that come out of Western institutions. They are not aliens from another galaxy. If we somehow got rid of these "globalists" tomorrow, the very next day a fresh batch of these fuckers would replace them.

What characteristics do we typically assign to these people? Greed, hyper-individualism, and the willingness to fuck people over while going after what you want. Those are values that we preach in the West. Is it any surprise that we get people like Clinton, Obama, and Trump as a result?

Post: #229

< I agree on that. Very wealthy people - most of them in the business of lending money to governments and kings - they got together and hammered out a plan of how to conquer the entire world. The overwhelming majority - probably even 100% - of them were white Christian and white Jewish.

Still - they don't hold countries back too much to make a buck and create a livable society - unless a shitty system like communism or a stupid dictatorship is established - then the ability to resist is difficult.

The globalists are white, but they are obviously more concerned with Whites potentially fighting back. It should tell you something about the enemies they fear - it's not Muslims, it's not Africans, it's not most South Americans - they are confident that they can deal with them fast. They are not even concerned about Asians too much, because the Chinese are very collectivist there and you can control such places from the top easily enough. Whites are not the smartest tribe on Earth, but they are a good mix between sufficiently high IQ and individualist thinking which makes them harder to bamboozle long-term. But they have plenty of other weaknesses like universal altruism.

Somehow their biggest greatest enemy are white nation-states. That is why they want to bring down those ships and make those people into minorities in their home-countries. Only then will they attempt to execute the most brutal steps of their long plan.

I personally think that they will only get to 90% of their conquest, before it all crumbles - either the people in the West resist too much or the Chinese stab them in the back not going along with the final steps. But we will see.....

Post: #230

Drudge has the siren going:

Trump to put the military on the border.

Post: #231

How many and for how long? Unleash them on the cartels so they dont get bored.

Post: #232

(04-02-2018 12:46 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(04-01-2018 11:08 AM)Pancho Wrote:  Hispanics will be the majority but ONLY if the rate of mass immigration from Mexico continued which is not the case today. Immigration from Mexico into the U.S is net 0 which means that more Mexicans are actually leaving the US to go back to their homeland.
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Mexicans aren't coming in mass droves like they used to in the 90s and early 00s. They also are not having as much kids as before. Still more than whites, but the days when Mexicans would pop out 10 kids each are long gone. Mexico's economy is getting better, and their society is changing. Going to "El Norte" is a thing of the past for many. Mexicans are over it.

A) Why should we trust the government that has lied about several wars, global warming, bank bailouts and many other things to provide accurate stats regarding the net migration from Mexico?

B) Are you really making assumptions about the details of a lifestyle of an illegal and by default poorly registered population? They no longer have 10 kids... says who? They're over it... proven by what exactly?

Quote:A) Why should we trust the government that has lied about several wars, global warming, bank bailouts and many other things to provide accurate stats regarding the net migration from Mexico?

Unfortunately I don't have a good answer for you on that. It really depends who you listen to and which places you put most trust in to give you the news and information you seek. For instance I don't believe a single thing Ann Coulter has to say. She's mainly the one who keeps blasting the propaganda that there's around 50 million illegals in America which I believe is BS. She's been wrong so many times and I don't trust her with giving me accurate stats or news.

Another ass hat who I hate is Alex Jones. The fact that Trump actually calls this guy every now and then is scary to me. This is a guy who believes Obama is Kenyan and "Satan". Where do you think Trump got the idea of the birther Obama thing? Or that 3 million illegals tilted the popular vote to Hillary Clinton in 2016? At the end of the day people can believe what they want to believe I guess its where I'm going.

In all honesty I believe the whole scapegoating of Illegal Immigrants in the U.S. is perpetuated by the elites (the people who run this country) to try to convince working class Americans into believing that the root of their problems are Mexicans and not them, all while the elites run behind the back door with all the money with screwing people with bad trade deals, having starvation wages, useless wars, etc... Mexicans aren't the enemy. Its the elites, they are the ones who have been screwing you over and over. Trump should send the military to wall street instead.


But anyway as far as net immigration is concerned, all I can give you is an anecdote of my own experience. Back in the 90s I used to meet Mexicans all the time who came from Mexico 1 month ago, 2 months ago, 4 months ago. I would ask how long have you been in the U.S. and they would almost all respond in less than 1 year. Back in the 90s the Mexican great migration was in full effect. Nowadays when I ask its usually people who came in the 90s. I hear 20 years, 10 years, 30 years, 15 years. Its extremely rare to meet an illegal who just came here months ago. I just don't see it anymore.

That caravan that was in the news came all the way from Honduras. Its extremely rare for Mexicans to make the journey north than times past.

Quote:B) Are you really making assumptions about the details of a lifestyle of an illegal and by default poorly registered population? They no longer have 10 kids... says who? They're over it... proven by what exactly?

Just look at the fertility rate of Mexico. Its currently at 2.21. That shit in the 90s it used to be at 3.48 and in the 70s it was at 6.83. That's a huge drop.
Fertility rate Mexico

Its still larger than the U.S. which the U.S is at 1.84 but its not as much as it was back in the 80s or 90s.

Education, the expanding Mexican economy thanks to NAFTA which caused Mexicans to leave their farms and go work in the cities in American factories, and birth control/feminism has helped Mexico have a lower birth rate.

Post: #233

Quote:"In all honesty I believe the whole scapegoating of Illegal Immigrants in the U.S. is perpetuated by the elites (the people who run this country) to try to convince working class Americans into believing that the root of their problems are Mexicans and not them, all while the elites run behind the back door with all the money with screwing people with bad trade deals, having starvation wages, useless wars, etc... Mexicans aren't the enemy. Its the elites, they are the ones who have been screwing you over and over. Trump should send the military to wall street instead."

The root of the problem is immigrants (I.E Mexicans). The Mexicans inexorably drag the US politics to left by virtue of being low IQ welfare leeches who vote for whoever promises them the most goodies. Going back to say, 1980 demographics would solve all US political problems in an instant.

Post: #234

(04-03-2018 12:10 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  Drudge has the siren going:

Trump to put the military on the border.

Absolute nonsense.

I've been assured that this is impossible. The Constitution apparently forbids it and all historical precedents for when it actually occurred are mass hallucinations born of fevered imaginations. It was never an option and will never be an option.

Post: #235

(04-03-2018 09:03 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  Going back to say, 1980 demographics would solve all US political problems in an instant.

The United States had a sane immigration policy from 1924 to 1965. Immigration was extremely limited with priority to those groups that best assimilated. Higher priority was given to people with special ability. The most famous case is when we imported a number of German rocket scientists (actually.. the US military didn't give them a choice..). Two decades later, we had men in outer space.

Post: #236

(04-03-2018 10:19 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 09:03 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  Going back to say, 1980 demographics would solve all US political problems in an instant.

The United States had a sane immigration policy from 1924 to 1965. Immigration was extremely limited with priority to those groups that best assimilated. Higher priority was given to people with special ability. The most famous case is when we imported a number of German rocket scientists (actually.. the US military didn't give them a choice..). Two decades later, we had men in outer space.

I’m sure that caravan heading for the border will help get us to Mars. Right Pancho?

Post: #237

(04-03-2018 11:45 PM)kamoz Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 10:19 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 09:03 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  Going back to say, 1980 demographics would solve all US political problems in an instant.

The United States had a sane immigration policy from 1924 to 1965. Immigration was extremely limited with priority to those groups that best assimilated. Higher priority was given to people with special ability. The most famous case is when we imported a number of German rocket scientists (actually.. the US military didn't give them a choice..). Two decades later, we had men in outer space.

I’m sure that caravan heading for the border will help get us to Mars. Right Pancho?

This is exactly why you need immigrants. Dumbass gringos want to go to Mars but if they asked a Wise Latina she'd tell them there are no chalupas there and save them the trouble.

Post: #238

(04-03-2018 09:03 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

Quote:"In all honesty I believe the whole scapegoating of Illegal Immigrants in the U.S. is perpetuated by the elites (the people who run this country) to try to convince working class Americans into believing that the root of their problems are Mexicans and not them, all while the elites run behind the back door with all the money with screwing people with bad trade deals, having starvation wages, useless wars, etc... Mexicans aren't the enemy. Its the elites, they are the ones who have been screwing you over and over. Trump should send the military to wall street instead."

The root of the problem is immigrants (I.E Mexicans). The Mexicans inexorably drag the US politics to left by virtue of being low IQ welfare leeches who vote for whoever promises them the most goodies. Going back to say, 1980 demographics would solve all US political problems in an instant.

The root of the problem is the globalist rule, but they use Mexican and South American immigrants as a weapon. Now of course after 25-35% of Mexicans already having left for the US, then it's easy to say that the majority coming in currently are not from Mexico. Most who wanted to go are already gone.

The globalists know which tribes will become disruptive and which will assimilate well. For example big countries like Poland as well as the FSU are not getting easy VISAs and won't be getting them for quite some time - if ever. It's tougher for a German to move to the US than for a 65-IQ eternally unemployed Somali (or worse if he starts working as a cop and kills folk like it happens recently in Minnesota).

They know that most European tribes or even the fleeing white South Africans would make the country more conservative and more unified in the old Anglo-saxon system. Never mind their heritage - the IQs are similar and their outlook on life more conservative (and race matters too in this context).

Most immigrants south of the border will rather vote automatically left, they will also view themselves separate from the native Anglo-Saxon Americans while the Europeans and white South Africans would seamlessly merge with the dominant natives within the next generation.

When the majority of the US becomes Hispanic/Mestizo, then you will find out how quickly this will change the US into a fare less hospitable and efficient place. In addition you will have African and Muslim immigrants which are still imported at rates of at least 250.000-500.000 per year (family reunifications are hardly counted in the official stats since most of the work is done by off-government NGOs).

The sad reality is that most people coming in south of the border are not bad people individually. They are just different enough on too many levels, so that the original system built by people of White European heritage and dominated by Anglo-saxon protestants - that they will simply destroy it - also because the globalists are already busy destroying it and the newcomers are helping them.

Post: #239

Good take on the Caravan of Saints.

Post: #240

(04-03-2018 08:38 PM)Pancho Wrote:  In all honesty I believe the whole scapegoating of Illegal Immigrants in the U.S. is perpetuated by the elites (the people who run this country) to try to convince working class Americans into believing that the root of their problems are Mexicans and not them, all while the elites run behind the back door with all the money with screwing people with bad trade deals, having starvation wages, useless wars, etc... Mexicans aren't the enemy. Its the elites, they are the ones who have been screwing you over and over. Trump should send the military to wall street instead.

But anyway as far as net immigration is concerned, all I can give you is an anecdote of my own experience. Back in the 90s I used to meet Mexicans all the time who came from Mexico 1 month ago, 2 months ago, 4 months ago. I would ask how long have you been in the U.S. and they would almost all respond in less than 1 year. Back in the 90s the Mexican great migration was in full effect. Nowadays when I ask its usually people who came in the 90s. I hear 20 years, 10 years, 30 years, 15 years. Its extremely rare to meet an illegal who just came here months ago. I just don't see it anymore.

That caravan that was in the news came all the way from Honduras. Its extremely rare for Mexicans to make the journey north than times past.

The issue isn't net Mexican immigration, it's the fact that the Mexican border serves as a back door into the country for unqualified labor which undercuts wages, abuses welfare programs, causes a disproportionate rate of violent crime, and frequently fails to integrate into broader society, if not speak the language. (For the record, these are the frequent issues with illegal immigrants regardless of origin.)

Even it Mexicans aren't hopping the fence in droves and the majority come from south of Mexico - can't very well build a wall on the Honduras border, can we?

And finally, societal woes can be attributed to more than one cause at a time. Instead a false binary choice of Mexicans vs. Wall Street, why don't we agree that they can both impact Smalltown, USA?

Post: #241

(04-04-2018 08:58 AM)polar Wrote:  The issue isn't net Mexican immigration, it's the fact that the Mexican border serves as a back door into the country for unqualified labor which undercuts wages, abuses welfare programs, causes a disproportionate rate of violent crime, and frequently fails to integrate into broader society, if not speak the language. (For the record, these are the frequent issues with illegal immigrants regardless of origin.)

Around 60% of the population of the jail of the county I reside in are resident aliens (legal and illegal). They are there for felonies unrelated to their immigration status. My mayor made a big deal about my city becoming a sanctuary for illegals. When I look at the thousands I pay in just county property taxes, a good portion of which goes to law enforcement, I want to scream.

The Progressive Left is a cancer on society.

Post: #242

(04-03-2018 09:03 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

Quote:"In all honesty I believe the whole scapegoating of Illegal Immigrants in the U.S. is perpetuated by the elites (the people who run this country) to try to convince working class Americans into believing that the root of their problems are Mexicans and not them, all while the elites run behind the back door with all the money with screwing people with bad trade deals, having starvation wages, useless wars, etc... Mexicans aren't the enemy. Its the elites, they are the ones who have been screwing you over and over. Trump should send the military to wall street instead."

The root of the problem is immigrants (I.E Mexicans). The Mexicans inexorably drag the US politics to left by virtue of being low IQ welfare leeches who vote for whoever promises them the most goodies. Going back to say, 1980 demographics would solve all US political problems in an instant.

Mexicans are useful pawns in posing a problem for target nations but they are not the Chessmasters. Removing significant pieces is part of the solution but not the full solution. The Chessmasters would have to be dealt with.

Post: #243

(04-04-2018 08:58 AM)polar Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 08:38 PM)Pancho Wrote:  In all honesty I believe the whole scapegoating of Illegal Immigrants in the U.S. is perpetuated by the elites (the people who run this country) to try to convince working class Americans into believing that the root of their problems are Mexicans and not them, all while the elites run behind the back door with all the money with screwing people with bad trade deals, having starvation wages, useless wars, etc... Mexicans aren't the enemy. Its the elites, they are the ones who have been screwing you over and over. Trump should send the military to wall street instead.

But anyway as far as net immigration is concerned, all I can give you is an anecdote of my own experience. Back in the 90s I used to meet Mexicans all the time who came from Mexico 1 month ago, 2 months ago, 4 months ago. I would ask how long have you been in the U.S. and they would almost all respond in less than 1 year. Back in the 90s the Mexican great migration was in full effect. Nowadays when I ask its usually people who came in the 90s. I hear 20 years, 10 years, 30 years, 15 years. Its extremely rare to meet an illegal who just came here months ago. I just don't see it anymore.

That caravan that was in the news came all the way from Honduras. Its extremely rare for Mexicans to make the journey north than times past.

The issue isn't net Mexican immigration, it's the fact that the Mexican border serves as a back door into the country for unqualified labor which undercuts wages, abuses welfare programs, causes a disproportionate rate of violent crime, and frequently fails to integrate into broader society, if not speak the language. (For the record, these are the frequent issues with illegal immigrants regardless of origin.)

Even it Mexicans aren't hopping the fence in droves and the majority come from south of Mexico - can't very well build a wall on the Honduras border, can we?

And finally, societal woes can be attributed to more than one cause at a time. Instead a false binary choice of Mexicans vs. Wall Street, why don't we agree that they can both impact Smalltown, USA?

Its like being put in check. Dealing with those pieces will definitely help to get out of a tough spot and prevent checkmate. But the ultimate solution is taking out the King.

The ultimate problem may be people that are connected to Wall Street. But taking out their tools or nullifying their ability to use those tools is quite a valid way in a series of moves to put the ultimate players in checkmate.

Post: #244

This one is entertaining, especially the first speaker. I also enjoyed seeing the woman tell them, in Spanish, why they shouldn't be assisting illegal immigrants. The mainstream media is definitely avoiding covering how many angry people are showing up at city council meetings around the country to protest sanctuary city policies.

Post: #245

(04-06-2018 09:52 AM)C-Note Wrote:  This one is entertaining, especially the first speaker. I also enjoyed seeing the woman tell them, in Spanish, why they shouldn't be assisting illegal immigrants. The mainstream media is definitely avoiding covering how many angry people are showing up at city council meetings around the country to protest sanctuary city policies.

That is what strikes me so much with many black and Hispanics legal citizens in the US. Blacks are the first who suffer due to uncontrolled illegal immigration from the south. The people speaking out experienced it themselves. Plus they notice that while the US neglects impoverished black and Hispanic citizens, the country has enough money to throw at people who are sometimes criminals or who spent a few months in the US while blacks are here for centuries and some Hispanics have also been living here for a long time.

Meanwhile the smug leftie politician lives a long way away from the area and does not give a shit about those people.

Post: #246

Post: #247

If she lost 150 lbs she'd be quite the looker.

Post: #248

(04-11-2018 09:54 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

This is an even bigger crime against logic than the other famous rapefugee announcement:

Post: #249

Hold up - so they granted asylum to the people in the caravan? In the USA? Or Mexico?

Post: #250

Twitter photo with no source.
I'm assuming fake news, honestly.