Post: #676

(03-29-2016 10:56 PM)doodlebug786 Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 10:42 PM)cubanlinx Wrote:  @doodlebug, I'm a muslim just like you. Rvfers are right. Why the fuck don't we police extremism in our own people? I caught one of the boys talking that kinda shit, slapped him upside the head and told him not to be a fool. That's the kinda shit we have to do. People are becoming afraid, rightly so. Shit can happen fast.

bro, i'm with you on that.
I myself have had that same convo with young idiots many times. The only time i get through to them is when I say something like 'so seems you wanna follow your israel masters then'
thats the only time i get through, coz as you know the one thing in the world they hate is israel.

That's a good move. The one thing most people in this thread probably agree on is this: ISIS (and other radical islamist groups) have been created, funded and armed by the US, Israel and their allies to fuck up the Middle East.
Why?
- To have access to the oil?
- To sell arms?
- To protect Israel?
- To destroy Russia's allies?
- To allow the construction of a gas pipeline from the gulf to Europe (=more petrodollar sales and weaker Russia)?
- To allow allies like Turkey and Saoudi Arabia to expand their territory and power?
- To decrease the safety in Europe and turn it into a police state?
We don't know, but one thing is for sure: the regular people in Europe, US, Russia or whatever country is hated by muslims didn't know and didn't want this. They got zero profit out of it but they deal with the blowback now (migrant invasion, terrorist attacks).

But the fact remains that these groups use the Islam and the Quran to justify their deeds. You cannot deny that the Quran is full of passages inciting violence against kafirs and that these radical groups are literally interpreting the Quran. These literal interpretations are used to attract and brainwash:
- young frustrated guys
- criminals who simply want to steal, rape, torture and kill and find a justification in the Quran

Then why is it so hard for the muslim community as a whole to condemn this kind of behaviour? Why can't your community release an official statement that says that your religious writings should be interpreted in the light of the time in which it was written, and that violence against infidels and apostates, forced conversion to islam, jizya, taqiya, ... are not allowed anymore in the name of Islam?

No instead we get this: http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/25/popular-mu...k-5775756/
Or we get imams in Belgium who refuse to condemn the terror attacks and who refuse to devote prayers to the victims because there were non-muslims amongst them.

Make no mistake, once these radical groups have played their role, or once they become a threat for the people that cannot be threatened (political and financial elite) then they will be violently eliminated, and no difference will be made between moderate or radical muslims in order not to take a risk.

So yes, that's probably the best thing you can do. Spread the word in your communities that these radical groups are simply doing the work of US/Israel government.

Post: #677

(03-22-2016 04:47 PM)The Wire Wrote:  

I saw this pic from the bombing and my first through was....."this is Brussels?"

Well this picture looks like it's at the airport. Therefore full of international people.

But yeah, outside of the airport it doesn't look much different, except you'll probably see more burqas.

Post: #678

(03-29-2016 10:42 PM)cubanlinx Wrote:  @doodlebug, I'm a muslim just like you. Rvfers are right. Why the fuck don't we police extremism in our own people? I caught one of the boys talking that kinda shit, slapped him upside the head and told him not to be a fool. That's the kinda shit we have to do. People are becoming afraid, rightly so. Shit can happen fast.

Here's why I never believe what most "moderate" muslims have to say. They always have a crocodile tears social presentation reserved for white people (europeans) and one for other people who don't possess white liberal guilt.

I see the presentation for "other" people most of the time i've encountered muslims and it's as degenerate and unfriendly as you would expect.

I've also visited a couple gulf countries before and see what the culture really is about even under the best conditions for followers of islam. It's nothing but slavery and real exploitation. As I said before islam understands the stick much more than the carrot. The west is conditioned to believe the carrot is all it needs in this era to its own detriment and potential downfall.

Post: #679

(03-30-2016 02:55 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  ...
I've also visited a couple gulf countries before and see what the culture really is about even under the best conditions for followers of islam. It's nothing but slavery and real exploitation...

Muslims are apt to drone on and on about how Christians and Jews lived alongside them "in peace" for hundreds of years.

Fact: If lazy Muslims were not able to bleed Jews and Christians for Jizya then they would have murdered them all.

Post: #680

(03-30-2016 01:23 AM)PhDre Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 10:56 PM)doodlebug786 Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 10:42 PM)cubanlinx Wrote:  @doodlebug, I'm a muslim just like you. Rvfers are right. Why the fuck don't we police extremism in our own people? I caught one of the boys talking that kinda shit, slapped him upside the head and told him not to be a fool. That's the kinda shit we have to do. People are becoming afraid, rightly so. Shit can happen fast.

bro, i'm with you on that.
I myself have had that same convo with young idiots many times. The only time i get through to them is when I say something like 'so seems you wanna follow your israel masters then'
thats the only time i get through, coz as you know the one thing in the world they hate is israel.

That's a good move. The one thing most people in this thread probably agree on is this: ISIS (and other radical islamist groups) have been created, funded and armed by the US, Israel and their allies to fuck up the Middle East.
Why?
- To have access to the oil?
- To sell arms?
- To protect Israel?
- To destroy Russia's allies?
- To allow the construction of a gas pipeline from the gulf to Europe (=more petrodollar sales and weaker Russia)?
- To allow allies like Turkey and Saoudi Arabia to expand their territory and power?
- To decrease the safety in Europe and turn it into a police state?
We don't know, but one thing is for sure: the regular people in Europe, US, Russia or whatever country is hated by muslims didn't know and didn't want this. They got zero profit out of it but they deal with the blowback now (migrant invasion, terrorist attacks).

But the fact remains that these groups use the Islam and the Quran to justify their deeds. You cannot deny that the Quran is full of passages inciting violence against kafirs and that these radical groups are literally interpreting the Quran. These literal interpretations are used to attract and brainwash:
- young frustrated guys
- criminals who simply want to steal, rape, torture and kill and find a justification in the Quran

Then why is it so hard for the muslim community as a whole to condemn this kind of behaviour? Why can't your community release an official statement that says that your religious writings should be interpreted in the light of the time in which it was written, and that violence against infidels and apostates, forced conversion to islam, jizya, taqiya, ... are not allowed anymore in the name of Islam?

No instead we get this: http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/25/popular-mu...k-5775756/
Or we get imams in Belgium who refuse to condemn the terror attacks and who refuse to devote prayers to the victims because there were non-muslims amongst them.

Make no mistake, once these radical groups have played their role, or once they become a threat for the people that cannot be threatened (political and financial elite) then they will be violently eliminated, and no difference will be made between moderate or radical muslims in order not to take a risk.

So yes, that's probably the best thing you can do. Spread the word in your communities that these radical groups are simply doing the work of US/Israel government.

I have came to realize that the U.S is using Israel, and not the other way around like popular opinion says. By no means am I absolving that nation, but America has basically been a warring country ever since the Declaration of Independence was signed 240 years ago. Hell, we were founded because of one. America meddling and shedding blood in the Middle East should come as no surprise to any one. Below is a list of major military conflicts with U.S involvement:

War of 1812: June 18, 1812 – February 18, 1815

Mexican American War: April 25, 1846 – February 2, 1848

Civil War: April 12, 1861 – May 9, 1865

Spanish American War: April 25, 1898 – August 12, 1898

World War I: April 6, 1917 (when U.S involvement began) – November 11, 1918

World War II: December 8, 1941 (when U.S involvement began)- September 2, 1945

Korean War: June 25, 1950 – July 27, 1953

Vietnam War: August 7, 1964 (when U.S involvement began)- April 30, 1975

Operation Desert Storm: January 17, 1991 – February 28, 1991

Iraq War: March 20, 2003 – December 18, 2011

Afghanistan War: October 7, 2001 – December 28, 2014

And this doesn't even include minor conflicts that the U.S has been involved in. We would sometimes have 30-40+ years of peace then back to a major war. America has always desired resources and more territory and have used various methods and false flags to justify going to war to obtain them. The Israeli conflict simply presents another opportunity for American defense contractors to make a killing off of weapons, access to Middle Eastern oil, and political influence in the region.

Post: #681

(03-29-2016 05:55 PM)doodlebug786 Wrote:  Let me cut to the point, the bombing in brussels....where is the ctv footage? your telling me in an airport of all places we still do not have any clear ctv footage of the people involved just a crappy still shot of a couple guys pushing trolleys. No footage of anyone moving around and detonating anything?
We have early witnesses that the blast came from the ceiling above. First we are told they had bomber jackets, then it was suitcases...they said there were multiple bombs but no multiple blasts. then we take a report from a taxi driver and go to someones house and see isis flags and it is case closed. ok....well surely this does not make sense. Why are we going along with the narrative so easily?

Wait, did you just try to prove that this was not a terrorist attack?

Post: #682

(03-30-2016 07:35 AM)future Wrote:  ...
Wait, did you just try to prove that this was not a terrorist attack?

Oh yeah. Didn't you know? It's just like that time those thousands of white agent provocatuers donned black/brown face and sexually assaulted those hundreds of women in Cologne on new years eve to paint the meek muslim immigrants as some kind of rapist deviants.

Total conspiracy.

Post: #683

(03-30-2016 07:35 AM)future Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 05:55 PM)doodlebug786 Wrote:  Let me cut to the point, the bombing in brussels....where is the ctv footage? your telling me in an airport of all places we still do not have any clear ctv footage of the people involved just a crappy still shot of a couple guys pushing trolleys. No footage of anyone moving around and detonating anything?
We have early witnesses that the blast came from the ceiling above. First we are told they had bomber jackets, then it was suitcases...they said there were multiple bombs but no multiple blasts. then we take a report from a taxi driver and go to someones house and see isis flags and it is case closed. ok....well surely this does not make sense. Why are we going along with the narrative so easily?

Wait, did you just try to prove that this was not a terrorist attack?

That conspiracy floats around about Sandy Hook also, but we all know its BS.

If people think terrorist attacks aren't real, they should've checked out the huge crater in Times Square right after 9/11.

Post: #684

(03-30-2016 10:18 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  

(03-30-2016 07:35 AM)future Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 05:55 PM)doodlebug786 Wrote:  Let me cut to the point, the bombing in brussels....where is the ctv footage? your telling me in an airport of all places we still do not have any clear ctv footage of the people involved just a crappy still shot of a couple guys pushing trolleys. No footage of anyone moving around and detonating anything?
We have early witnesses that the blast came from the ceiling above. First we are told they had bomber jackets, then it was suitcases...they said there were multiple bombs but no multiple blasts. then we take a report from a taxi driver and go to someones house and see isis flags and it is case closed. ok....well surely this does not make sense. Why are we going along with the narrative so easily?

Wait, did you just try to prove that this was not a terrorist attack?

That conspiracy floats around about Sandy Hook also, but we all know its BS.

If people think terrorist attacks aren't real, they should've checked out the huge crater in Times Square right after 9/11.

<Insert 9/11 Inside Job Conspiracy post here>

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #685

(03-30-2016 02:50 AM)future Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 04:47 PM)The Wire Wrote:  

I saw this pic from the bombing and my first through was....."this is Brussels?"

Well this picture looks like it's at the airport. Therefore full of international people.

But yeah, outside of the airport it doesn't look much different, except you'll probably see more burqas.

Burqas are illegal in Belgium. Women have been arrested for this. And yes Brussels is about as multicultural as it can get. If I would have to guess, Brussels/Antwerp, Rotterdam/Amsterdam and NY/London/Paris are probably the most race diverse places on the world.

Post: #686

MdWanderer while officially the US entered WW2 on the 8th, the U.S. was involved many years earlier with the lend lease act and even providing escort services to ships crossing the Atlantic. I'm pretty sure FDR did everything he could to help.

I raise this point just for accuracy and not to dispute the fact that the U.S. has been engaged in fighting wars for a decent chunk of its history.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

Post: #687

(03-30-2016 10:34 AM)rottenapple Wrote:  

(03-30-2016 02:50 AM)future Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 04:47 PM)The Wire Wrote:  

I saw this pic from the bombing and my first through was....."this is Brussels?"

Well this picture looks like it's at the airport. Therefore full of international people.

But yeah, outside of the airport it doesn't look much different, except you'll probably see more burqas.

Burqas are illegal in Belgium. Women have been arrested for this. And yes Brussels is about as multicultural as it can get. If I would have to guess, Brussels/Antwerp, Rotterdam/Amsterdam and NY/London/Paris are probably the most race diverse places on the world.

That could be virtually any Western European city, large or small.

EDIT...there aren't enough brown faces and burqas for it to be mine or many others.

Post: #688

The governing body of Brussels has decided that maybe if it pretends to be part of the caliphate then the extremists will leave them alone.

In an upside down move, authorities closed down synagogues because they said they couldn't guarantee their security -- while leaving all the mosques open, where more radicalism will be spread.

So. Stage one. "We're going to need to criminalise your fundamental human right to bear arms for your own defence. It's the only way we, your government, can keep you safe."

Stage two. "We're shutting down your sacred halls of worship because we can't guarantee your safety.

Fucking Eurocrat scum. The jihadis will be dancing in the streets with the news of this victory.

Post: #689

(03-30-2016 05:39 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The governing body of Brussels has decided that maybe if it pretends to be part of the caliphate then the extremists will leave them alone.

In an upside down move, authorities closed down synagogues because they said they couldn't guarantee their security -- while leaving all the mosques open, where more radicalism will be spread.

So. Stage one. "We're going to need to criminalise your fundamental human right to bear arms for your own defence. It's the only way we, your government, can keep you safe."

Stage two. "We're shutting down your sacred halls of worship because we can't guarantee your safety.

Fucking Eurocrat scum. The jihadis will be dancing in the streets with the news of this victory.

They are submitting to their prophet.

Post: #690

doodlebug786, This forum is about one simple idea, men facing reality of the world around them, women, jobs, politics, money, etc, this also apply to cultural and geopolitical issue, just like women, men do not get to decide what we get from them, we see their action and then we respond, is the same thing with Islam, we do not talk about it without first observing it how is played around the world, many have already said and explained why is incompatible with the Westerner values but you refuse to accept the reality of the world around you, then this forum is not a place for people like that, to quote Nick Fury "takes the world as it is, not as we'd like to be".

We did not woke up one day and started "hating" on Muslim, Islamophobia does not exist, why? because "phobia is defined as an irrational fear, so let me tell you the main problem of Islam, its followers believe they are the top and absolute knowledge individuals in the world by just fallowing Islam and the prophet, they believe they do not need to learn anything new from anybody especially infidels, the schools only need one book, the Quran, and the ultimate authority in the region must be an Iman, in a Sharia Court, that will dictate the lives of thousands or millions of people based on what a guy who sounds more like a warlord than a prophet said millennials ago. There are tons of data showing Muslims countries having favorable views on ISIS and Sharia.

Your idea than some no-Muslims groups have 1rst class treatment is absurd, why? well, because while Islam preaches minority rights and religious tolerance when they are minority themselves, then they take absolute dominant position and control over minorities where Muslims are the majority, every country where Muslims are a majority today started with a minority Muslims preaching tolerance and religious freedom, Christianity itself is a Middle Easter religion, and look how how is today. There is a reason no-Muslims flee Muslim majority countries as soon as they can.

There is a good and very reasonable fact that having an increasing Muslim immigration, population, and birthrate in a not Muslim country is a sign of disaster for no Muslim, just like the Quran itself teaches its followers, it will restrict those no-Muslim and assert total domination of the host country once it reaches certain point, Europe already have areas where no-Muslims can't go, even the police itself refuse to do so.

You need to reflect in the main reasons why people really fallow Islam in the first place, apostate is forbidden, you can be killed by the government or even your own family, marring cousins is permitted and even encouraged which increase the birth defects and lower the IQ population, heck, Muslims countries have a IQ of 80 average, polygamy only favors those men at the top creating a big number of young sexual frustrate young men that are promised Yazidi women as reward for joining ISIS, and 72 virgins by getting killed.

Now before you say anything, lets compare compare to Honduras, Guatemala, Nicaragua, countries with the same language and religion, living next to each other and also have the lower human development in America after Haiti.

Honduras average IQ is 81, Guatemala average IQ is 79, Nicaragua average IQ is 79, why I bring this up? because is a representation of the same thing happening in Middle East Islamic countries, low IQ, shared religion, language, and in close proximity, yet, we do not have to worry about one guy from Nicaragua radicalizing and starting a murdering rampage killing not Roman Catholics, the countries are not bombing each other off.

The only thing that has keep Islam afloat in the 21st century is the money they get from Western countries, and the open border policies by Western countries, now, you may ask, why is assimilation impossible?, because Islamic countries have been in wars between each other for religious reasons way before USA or UK existed and they still cannot assimilate Islam between each other even though they fallow the same prophet and book, again compare this to Latin America where they share almost the same religion, Roman Catholicism, and language, Spanish, yet, we are sold the lie that they will assimilate to a culture like Germany where beer is the norm, or Italy where pork is present in almost every food receipt.

Islam tried for centuries to conquer Europe by force and it did not work, but now the Europeans themselves let the invader in and take over.

Look, I am not European, or American, but I recognize the importance of a nation preserving its culture, I want Japan to remain Japan, Korea Korea, and Sweden Sweden, I do not want to go to Stockholm and feel like I am in Somalia, if I want to see Somalia I go to Somalia, I like watching video of foreigners in places like Osaka and see how they stand out in the crowd, if I go there I knows I will see Japaneses culture, but the Pakistani in Sweden is not going to care to preserve Swedish culture, he will tell me how I cannot drink beer or eat bacon in Sweden because a guy he calls prophet millennials ago said so

Post: #691

When Rome burned, Nero played the violin.
When Brussels burned, Obama danced the tango.

Post: #692

(03-30-2016 05:39 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The governing body of Brussels has decided that maybe if it pretends to be part of the caliphate then the extremists will leave them alone.

In an upside down move, authorities closed down synagogues because they said they couldn't guarantee their security -- while leaving all the mosques open, where more radicalism will be spread.

So. Stage one. "We're going to need to criminalise your fundamental human right to bear arms for your own defence. It's the only way we, your government, can keep you safe."

Stage two. "We're shutting down your sacred halls of worship because we can't guarantee your safety.

Fucking Eurocrat scum. The jihadis will be dancing in the streets with the news of this victory.

Those pathetic fucks.

Post: #693

(03-30-2016 09:01 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  When Rome burned, Nero played the violin.
When Brussels burned, Obama danced the tango.

Or watched a baseball game?

Post: #694

(03-30-2016 05:39 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The governing body of Brussels has decided that maybe if it pretends to be part of the caliphate then the extremists will leave them alone.

In an upside down move, authorities closed down synagogues because they said they couldn't guarantee their security -- while leaving all the mosques open, where more radicalism will be spread.

So. Stage one. "We're going to need to criminalise your fundamental human right to bear arms for your own defence. It's the only way we, your government, can keep you safe."

Stage two. "We're shutting down your sacred halls of worship because we can't guarantee your safety.

Fucking Eurocrat scum. The jihadis will be dancing in the streets with the news of this victory.

Perhaps the synagogues should put some complaints in with their fellow believer George Soros and his friends?

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #695

^ Soros is no believer in his people's god, only destruction and evil.

Post: #696

(03-30-2016 09:26 PM)netguy68 Wrote:  

(03-30-2016 09:01 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  When Rome burned, Nero played the violin.
When Brussels burned, Obama danced the tango.

Or watched a baseball game?

That too.

Post: #697

(03-30-2016 11:21 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  ^ Soros is no believer in his people's god, only destruction and evil.

I believe he's a vengeance orientated man. His sole goal is to sow chaos seeds in the culture and people he feels wronged the tribe in the past. Those are his true motivations. He's a man driven by vengeance which means he's also blind and destructive by nature. Vengeance is good when it's pinpoint focus with a legitimate cause but he's obviously going for collective responsibility which is ironically how his own people were persecuted.

In short, he's a dangerous piece of shit that just frankly needs to go.

Post: #698

(03-31-2016 09:35 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(03-30-2016 11:21 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  ^ Soros is no believer in his people's god, only destruction and evil.

I believe he's a vengeance orientated man. His sole goal is to sow chaos seeds in the culture and people he feels wronged the tribe in the past. Those are his true motivations. He's a man driven by vengeance which means he's also blind and destructive by nature. Vengeance is good when it's pinpoint focus with a legitimate cause but he's obviously going for collective responsibility which is ironically how his own people were persecuted.

In short, he's a dangerous piece of shit that just frankly needs to go.

Don't know how true it is, but I read once about the jewish way of anger and vengeance. Germanic people, they are calm but when they get pressure they can heat up extreme fast and go beserk, then they calm down and move on. Jews let is grow, inside and never forgive till they get their vengeance.

Roosh did mention it in an Article about the jews, that they favour a multi cultural society. Then it was mention in the migrant invasion topic that some jews hold a cruel against Europeans and want so see it destroyed.
Don't know how much of this is true, but when I look at those who support the "cultural enrichment" it might be true.

Post: #699

I think about merchants, the main thing is that the elites have different motivations than the commoners. There is a lot of talk about 'victim culture' and how it found its way into American black culture, then into feminism, chicano movement, LGBT.

Did this just happen by accident or was it used because those who created already understood the strength of a victim narrative?

Does anyone think the Rothschild family sits around in their royal mansions, married into nobility in most of the world and considers themselves victims of anti-semittism? The people who created wars and revolutions all over the world, Kingmakers and destroyers. Of course not. Elites do not operate in a fantasy world, winners don't deal with fantasy.

Rothschild and the likes were the original Zionists, hence why the Balfour Declaration(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c...ration.JPG) was made out to him. Who knows what motivations Rothschild had, we do not know, what we know is the supreme court and Knesset is built by him in Israel, we know streets are named after him, we know the Mason symbolism(http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/9-4zsWXcT3Q/0.jpg) in those buildings. A simple explanation is that Rothschild wanted to be King of the Jews, maybe he had some messianic aspirations. Remember the jewish messiah is a warlord king who makes the jews masters of the world.

The only problem was most jews were very happy to live in Europe. Alas, fear and victimization must be brought into their minds. They must see themselves as victims of their countries, they must fear the Europeans so they will migrate to Israel instead of living in Poland and Germany. This is how victim culture fundamentally makes it way into jewry. Possibly it was there already, being banished and all that.

However, it is clear the Holocaust fundamentally became a secular religion of persecution for otherwise non-practicing jews. The modern jew defines himself almost entirely as a victim of history, despite being the richest and most priviledged ethnic group in the world. Fear and victimization are methods of control.

Post: #700

Stumbled across a one hour special that will be playing tonight in case anyone is interested. Didn't know where to put it and didn't think it deserved a new thread.

It is called "ISIS and the Internet"

I have heard officials discuss the pros and cons of the internet. It helps with recruiting but it also helps governments track terrorists. I am not sure exactly what angle will be presented.

There is a minute or so preview clip at this link. It talks about a kid from Toronto who got suckered in. He was disenfranchised, so an easy target.

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/h...6794691739