Post: #451

We, the western world, need to get our balls back and do this to Islam.

Post: #452

^^^ I have that comic. The entire collection of Tintin actually. Great series growing up, and highly non-PC. I remember there's one where Tintin goes undercover with blackface.

Post: #453

(03-23-2016 10:28 PM)Veloce Wrote:  ^^^ I have that comic. The entire collection of Tintin actually. Great series growing up, and highly non-PC. I remember there's one where Tintin goes undercover with blackface.

The first book that started to teach me to read was a Tintin and the first one I ever fully read by myself was a Tintin. I have every single issue ever released. Truth be told Tintin was one of my major role models along with my Dad and I think it is from Tintin that I became so enamored with the idea of writing, adventuring and fighting. Brilliant series. Sorry for the total detour; just wanted to share

Post: #454

(03-23-2016 10:46 PM)Roadrunner Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 10:28 PM)Veloce Wrote:  ^^^ I have that comic. The entire collection of Tintin actually. Great series growing up, and highly non-PC. I remember there's one where Tintin goes undercover with blackface.

The first book that started to teach me to read was a Tintin and the first one I ever fully read by myself was a Tintin. I have every single issue ever released. Truth be told Tintin was one of my major role models along with my Dad and I think it is from Tintin that I became so enamored with the idea of writing, adventuring and fighting. Brilliant series. Sorry for the total detour; just wanted to share

Do you have Tintin in Thailand?

Post: #455

(03-23-2016 11:00 PM)Suits Wrote:  Do you have Tintin in Thailand?

I don't know how I missed the gem of a work. I'm in the business of procuring it as we speak.
It's a parody but brilliant yet.

Post: #456

This was a false flag attack, just like Paris and I'm witnessing the entire culture playing into the hands of the real perpetrators .. in real time.

Post: #457

Let me guess, the real perpetrators are the Jews / Banksters / Rothschilds / Rockefellers / Jew Controlled American leaders?

(03-23-2016 11:35 PM)Clockwerk Wrote:  This was a false flag attack, just like Paris and I'm witnessing the entire culture playing into the hands of the real perpetrators .. in real time.

Post: #458

(03-23-2016 11:42 PM)Slay it Forward Wrote:  Let me guess, the real perpetrators are the Jews / Banksters / Rothschilds / Rockefellers / Jew Controlled American leaders?

(03-23-2016 11:35 PM)Clockwerk Wrote:  This was a false flag attack, just like Paris and I'm witnessing the entire culture playing into the hands of the real perpetrators .. in real time.

Post: #459

(03-23-2016 11:42 PM)Slay it Forward Wrote:  Let me guess, the real perpetrators are the Jews / Banksters / Rothschilds / Rockefellers / Jew Controlled American leaders?

(03-23-2016 11:35 PM)Clockwerk Wrote:  This was a false flag attack, just like Paris and I'm witnessing the entire culture playing into the hands of the real perpetrators .. in real time.

I'll ignore your snarky tone and say that people who are otherwise quite intelligent are acting pretty irrational. Don't succumb to ridiculous propaganda that panders to your emotions and your need dehumanize a group. The next step is obvious.

Post: #460

Ah Slay It Forward

I smelled JIDF at it again

Post: #461

Post: #462

(03-23-2016 07:04 PM)doodlebug786 Wrote:  I'll answer them honestly for you.
Do you want Sharia laws? yes 100%

I have serious doubts about having an honest conversation especially when it comes to a theological debate but I will bite.

Supporting Sharia law already makes you incompatible with western society in many ways. It means you are endorsing second class citizenship for dhimmis (Christians and jews) where they have to be subdued and pay taxes. I will address the rest of your points individually.

(03-23-2016 07:04 PM)doodlebug786 Wrote:  Do you support killing of apostate? Sharia says only allowed if someone accepts islam and then later rejects it he is an apostate. They are given chance to return back and only after they repeatedly reject it are they given the death penalty. Normally this would only happen to an enemy of the state, a normal person who leaves islam would normally do it silently and or leave the nation. It is quite normal in most countries that an enemy of the state is given the death penalty.

A lot of mental gymnastics here. Someone has to accept a religion before he leaves it, that’s the definition of apostasy. A normal person leaves Islam silently because he will be killed if he mutters a word about it, again stating the obvious.

You are giving words different definitions; this is an attempt at controlling the language akin to leftist argumentation tactics. Apostasy relates to freedom of religion, in non-muslim countries you are free to believe whatever you want. Being an enemy of the state involves plotting against the state and committing treason, a different concept altogether. It is sad to see you resort to dishonest arguments already.

From the Quran (I am using public muslims sources, you can google the verses) :

But if they repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, then they are your brothers in religion; and We detail the verses for a people who know.
And if they break their oaths after their treaty and defame your religion, then fight the leaders of disbelief, for indeed, there are no oaths [sacred] to them; [fight them that] they might cease.

In case you are thinking “fight them” includes showering them with kisses and hugs until they revert back to Islam, I will turn to the Hadith to confirm the intended meaning. As you know, Hadith is the source of supporting traditions that is necessary to understand the Quran.

Hadith, sahih boukhari Volume 9, Book 83, Number 17:

Narrated 'Abdullah:
Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."

Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57:
Narrated 'Ikrima:
Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

There are plenty more verses but those suffice to get the point across. There is no talk of being given a chance and having it repeatedly rejected. I don’t know where you got this from but it seems like another fabrication.

No matter how delicate you want to be in your interpretation, it doesn’t change the fact that an apostate has to be ultimately killed as this is done in practice all over the muslim world and is preached by the Imams.

(03-23-2016 07:04 PM)doodlebug786 Wrote:  Do you support the killing of the cartoonists (or criticism of their prophet) ?
Criticizing any prophet is a sin to do so but it is not punishable by death. For non-muslims also this is the case.

More strawman arguments and deflection. We are talking about criticism of Mohammad, so I will address that.

There were many recent protests where Muslims make it clear that those who insult the prophet should be killed, this is what they believe. Muslims do intimidate, harass and ultimately assassinate critics, plenty of examples in recent times which I don’t feel the need to go over.

Mohammad himself routinely assassinated those who criticized him for pettiest of reasons including poetry and pranks. You are wrong again.

Quran 33:57
Indeed, those who abuse Allah and His Messenger - Allah has cursed them in this world and the Hereafter and prepared for them a humiliating punishment.
Quran 33:61 continued
Accursed wherever they are found, [being] seized and massacred completely.

(03-23-2016 07:04 PM)doodlebug786 Wrote:  No because your presumption about the key tenants are incorrect as mentioned above.

They are key tenets because Islam at its core is an ideology that depends on fear in order to establish control. Islam did not convert zorastian Persia and Christian middle-east by preaching, Mohamad couldn’t even do that with more than a dozen meccans.

The three points that I isolated cover how Islam operates

Sharia: political control
Killing Apostates: controls the freedom of the population
Killing critics: controls freedom of speech

Without the threat of violence, Islam is meaningless. It has no universal spiritual message, it is simply a conquest manual. Over half of the Koran is dedicated to the (brutal) treatment of the infidels. There are 164 verses relating to Jihad. There is no message here beyond submission to Allah and Mohamad which is done by force.

(03-23-2016 07:04 PM)doodlebug786 Wrote:  Sheesh thats a bit of a stretch. I would think it is the opposite, we were taught that we were the conquerors not victims. I think the jews are pre-programmed to believe they victims. Anyway there sure are plenty of people who do have hatred in their hearts for some western countries but you must agree that they have been getting bombed by them on a daily basis. Lets not sugar coat anything with psychology nonsense.

You really have never heard a muslim blame the west, Israel , the US, the crusades, Christianity, Judaism, hindus and even Buddhists?

I see you are using moral relativism. Would it be justified for Christians to take back Constantinople or to claim back Alexandria ?

Do you wish to cover the disposition and genocide of christians in Egypt, Syria, Iraq? What about the severe persecution of Hindus in Pakistan or the killings of Buddhist in Malaya? Social justice works both ways.

Muslims are taught about the “persecution” that Mohamad faced in Mecca and apply it wherever they go. When in minority muslims will play the victim card, that’s a rule. They are already crying islamophobia and the dead bodies aren’t even cold yet.

Muslims scholars refer to the battles of Saladin and the crusades as an example of unjust conquest by the West and Muslims victories. There is no mention of the history of the middle-east, in fact most people assume it was always muslim territory. I am starting to doubt your authenticity.

Dismissing psychology when it is a relevant indication of behavior is another mistake. Muslims segregation in western societies and their deep rooted hate for western culture just doesn’t matter to you? If that’s not a catalyst for civil unrest then I don’t know what is.

Read the thoughts of the dutch journalist when talking to Moroccans in brussels as posted earlier.

I speak Arabic, I lived in the middle-east, Europe and north America and befriended many muslims. Generally, the less religious the more open they are to western values.

(03-23-2016 07:04 PM)doodlebug786 Wrote:  Who are these leaders you speak of?

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: former imam and doctorate in Islamic studies.

(03-23-2016 07:04 PM)doodlebug786 Wrote:  Trump also pointed out that we give them weapons and money and we got no idea who is who.

That's true but what's your point ? Personally, I believe that ISIS are funded by the Saudis, armed by the US, given logistics by the Turks and guided by the Mossad ( who play divide and conquer in the region). That doesn't change the facts about Islam.

Post: #463

I don't think this being a false flag absolves the Islamists from what they did, if it was a false flag it was in a sense that the establishment intentionally created an environment designed for radical Islam to flourish, ISIS is the muscle
of the globalists that is being used as a catalyst for civil unrest.

My point is radical Islam is real and I believe the false flag is western powers opening borders and allowing these people to attack at will.

Post: #464

delete

Post: #465

Brussels terrorists planned nuclear plants attack, changed target after accomplice’s arrest – report

Quote:Brussels suicide bombers Khalid and Ibrahim El Bakraoui were planning attacks on Belgian nuclear power stations, Dernier Heure newspaper reported.
The newspaper exclusively reported that the arrest of Paris attacker Salah Abdeslam accelerated the plans of the terrorists.

The brothers planted a hidden camera in front of the home of the director of the Belgian nuclear research program, the paper said.

DETAILS TO FOLLOW

Post: #466

If things go nuclear we are so fucked

Post: #467

(03-24-2016 03:15 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  If things go nuclear we are so fucked

I'd imagine that the nuclear power plants are pretty well guarded. I'm sure that attacking a nuclear facility would be a little more difficult than carrying a suicide vest onto the metro.

Post: #468

(03-24-2016 02:59 AM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  Brussels terrorists planned nuclear plants attack, changed target after accomplice’s arrest – report

Quote:Brussels suicide bombers Khalid and Ibrahim El Bakraoui were planning attacks on Belgian nuclear power stations, Dernier Heure newspaper reported.

The newspaper exclusively reported that the arrest of Paris attacker Salah Abdeslam accelerated the plans of the terrorists.

The brothers planted a hidden camera in front of the home of the director of the Belgian nuclear research program, the paper said.

DETAILS TO FOLLOW

Continued:

Quote:Evidence obtained by the authorities shows that the same terrorist cell was behind the Paris attacks in November that killed over 130 people and this week’s Brussels bombings, which claimed the lives of 31 people and injured over 270, the paper wrote.

The footage with “dozens of hours” of the movements of Belgium's nuclear boss was seized during an anti-terrorist raid in the apartment of another suspect belonging to the same terror cell, Mohammed Bakkali.

According to investigators' information, obtained by Dernier Heure, the El Bakraoui brothers were the ones suspected of planting the cameras and were following the movements of the nuclear boss.

After analyzing the video, investigators concluded that the target of terrorists was to “jeopardize national security like never before,” DH wrote.

Europe is on high alert following the deadly Brussels attacks. On Tuesday, the Belgian capital was rocked by twin blasts at the city’s Zaventem Airport and an explosion at the Maalbeek Metro station, just meters away from key EU buildings less than an hour later.

On Wednesday, the Belgian prosecutor’s office said that brothers Khalid and Ibrahim El Bakraoui were suicide bombers in the metro and in the airport. Also it was revealed that Ibrahim El Bakraoui left a note on a computer found in a trash can during an anti-terrorist raid. The terrorist reportedly wrote that he felt increasingly unsafe, didn’t know what to do and feared going to prison.

Post: #469

(03-23-2016 11:35 PM)Clockwerk Wrote:  This was a false flag attack, just like Paris and I'm witnessing the entire culture playing into the hands of the real perpetrators .. in real time.

I also have the intuition that it was a false flag attack, like Paris. In both cases, the terrorists were highly paid second generation "cailleras" little thugs gangsters, not Muslim spiritual extremists.

If the Muslims laid low in Europe for a couple decades, they would completely demographically outnumber the European whites, without a fight.

Now the Islamists are shooting themselves in the foot with these terrorist attacks. White Europeans are waking up and they will fight. MARK MY WORDS...

So, the only plausible explanation I can see is that the global elites need a civil war now because internet and unfettered free speech is getting way too dangerous for them...

As Roosh is tweeting recently, Europeans might soon have to fight for their survival in the coming civil war. They will have no time and resources for revolutionary action. The elites will thus no longer be directly threatened by the population.

Or so they hope...

Post: #470

Perhaps the terrorists were 'second generation "cailleras" little thugs gangsters' (aka low IQ cannon fodder) paid highly BY Muslim spiritual extremists. It's not like there's not some crossover amongst those groups.

Post: #471

(03-23-2016 11:00 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 10:46 PM)Roadrunner Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 10:28 PM)Veloce Wrote:  ^^^ I have that comic. The entire collection of Tintin actually. Great series growing up, and highly non-PC. I remember there's one where Tintin goes undercover with blackface.

The first book that started to teach me to read was a Tintin and the first one I ever fully read by myself was a Tintin. I have every single issue ever released. Truth be told Tintin was one of my major role models along with my Dad and I think it is from Tintin that I became so enamored with the idea of writing, adventuring and fighting. Brilliant series. Sorry for the total detour; just wanted to share

Do you have Tintin in Thailand?

Wow this spiked my curiousity:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintin_in_Thailand

Quote:Copies of Tintin in Thailand can still occasionally be found in Bangkok.

I need to keep my eyes out for this unique gem. Would make a perfect RVF birthday gift

Post: #472

I don't think these are false flag attacks simply because of the media's overwhelming (and successful!) grip on public opinion. People are already stupid and easily controlled by just a few snarky columnists and news anchors. The elites don't also need elaborate terror operations to push EU into war, open its borders, attack foreign countries and so on. If anything, such things would be more likely to backfire on them.

Think of how the invasion of Iraq in 2003 had nothing to do with 9/11 - the main reasoning rested on the obviously fake "weapons of mass destruction" theory, not on the attacks. Just some newspaper propaganda and lobbying was easily enough to get the country into a major war.

The predictable "we must have tolerance" responses to the attacks speak of a scrambled damage control by the elite, not warmongering.

Post: #473

(03-24-2016 03:19 AM)Horus Wrote:  

(03-24-2016 03:15 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  If things go nuclear we are so fucked

I'd imagine that the nuclear power plants are pretty well guarded. I'm sure that attacking a nuclear facility would be a little more difficult than carrying a suicide vest onto the metro.

They are. In the UK, power plants are protected by the Nuclear Police, and they are all heavily armed, very well trained, and usually ex-infantry. There is probably no chance of a non-state actor blowing one of these things up, unless you're talking ex-SF guys, a lot of them, with serious cutting tools and time they'd never have.

Terrorists causing chaos by taking out transformers is a potential problem. If they every learn how to use drones then things could really start to change. As John Robb wrote recently on his blog, 10 drones pre-programmed to take off autonomously, fly across some programmed GPS coordinates, and land on the wing of an aeroplane with a pound of thermite as a payload set up to deploy on landing, could take out an entire airport (10 drones, 10 planes, and a whole load of jet fuel). The possibilities for disruptive, autonomous warfare through the use of off-the-shelf technology are staggering.

Post: #474

My video on the last page..

Quote:Someone posted this on facebook earlier and I shared it in the hope that sooky cunts would sook, nobody has responded yet though.

1 person deleted me, he is meant to be a friend but he is pussy whipped by his wife and her opinions. He used to agree with me on alot of stuff, but his wife is an aggressive bitch always like "oooh you racist" and acts like it physicaly caused her pain or something when you tell a truth.

Post: #475

Independent says the video of the explosion is actually from a Russian airport in 2011 and was "mistakenly released by a Belgian news agency":
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...45501.html
What do you guys think?