Post: #51

I hooked up with a asian chick that was 6 ft tall and had a body of a latina (I'm 5 foot 10). I remember her towering over me in high heels. I personally at this point am mostly interested in "pursueing" either latinas or asian chicks.

I personally do find some chinese, korean, taiwanese girls to be really pretty. They have alot more estrogen and you can see it in there facial features.

Asian women as a whole I would say fall into the average category. But the portion of asian women that are hot are HOT. Plus I can build intimacy and have down to earth convos with some of them.

To each his own.

Post: #52

These type of girls think they are the shit and thus have a typical white girl entitlement attitude, but much worse. Any race, when mixed with American culture is shit. I love the United States and I am a patriot, however, the women here are completely a different story. Asian girls are fantastic, IN Asia.

You have good and bad everywhere, but this is a general rule.

Post: #53

I know many very westernised Asian Australian girls including Eurasians, and I've noticed a huge change in the younger early 20s ones vs the older ones around my age (late 20s to early 30s now, but they've been the same way since they were younger).

The latter date mostly white guys, especially the half Asian chicks. They're often openly hostile towards Asian guys in many ways that have been discussed to death here.

The former have gone the opposite way. They prefer dating westernised and muscular Asian guys almost exclusively. They are openly hostile towards beta white guys with yellow fever.

I fit the bill of a westernised muscular Asian guy, and wasn't having much luck with the older ones particularly the Eurasians (despite finding it easy to date white girls), but the younger ones love me.

As for whether they are overrated in general: yes they are. Get your ass to Asia, you'll see way better just getting off the plane.

Post: #54

(07-31-2016 12:24 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  Not sure if this should be included as part of this thread, but I ran into a very wealthy Chinese FOB in Los Angeles today. She was a 6-7 looks wise; probably the hottest Cantonese I've seen in a while, but that's not saying much.

I was at a function and we spoke for less than 10 minutes, but it was pretty painful talking to her.

Here's some parts of the conversation:

Me: Hi. I'm WalterBlack
Her: Hi, I'm xxxxxx how's your day going? Where are you from?
Me: Guess
Her: India, Pakistan...well you have good English, so Hong Kong? [I'm British-Indian]
Me: UK. You're from China, right?
Her: Yeah, I'm Cantonese, but my parents still live in China because they do not speak English, so I do business on their behalf in the US.
Me: I've been to China, I went to...
Her: [she starts talking before I finish] I have a couple of businesses and I am a partner in a Hollywood production studio - I was brought in to bring in Chinese money. I also have a lot of houses that I own and rent out, I'm gonna try and sell them soon.
Me: That's cool, so what..
Her: [she starts talking before I finish] What do you like to do for fun? I want to talk to classy guys...[I think she's looking for a rich guy to marry]
Me: I like to travel, eat and..
Her: [she starts talking before I finish]. I love to eat, and I love to cook too. [She starts showing me pictures of stuff she made on her phone]
Me: So what's your favourite cuisine? I like..
Her: I love Italian and French food. I love Italy and France. I have been going every year since I was 16. I travel a lot.
Me: That's nice. I've been to Italy...
Her: [she starts talking before I finish] I can paint too and draw, I do it for fun but I am good enough to make a living from it [starts showing me her artwork on her phone. I've student art, and she's nothing special]. I'm very talents and I'm good at a lot of things.
Me: hey, it was nice talking to you but I need to make a call...[I walked away from her]

I could sense that she wasn't particularly into me, so I moved on...

I tried to play my "I've been to China" and "I know about Chinese food" cards that I throw in conversations with Chinese FOBs. Usually it goes pretty well, but this woman could not just stop talking about herself so I nexted her.

I estimate that this woman is worth at least 7, maybe even 8 figures USD [almost certainly all parents' money], but she was so self centred and irritating I was glad to get the fuck away from her. It was like she wanted me to be an audience for her to talk about herself, she never gave a me a chance to speak about myself.

What?

Thats the best kind of woman, the more a woman talks to you about herself and the more you FACILITATE that, the more into you she becomes. . .you become a `good listener` All you gotta do is just steer the conversation to where you want to go. If you get her out to drinks, you can steer the conversation to sex: `What was your last boyfriend like?` The fact that she was talking to you about herself so easily was like just putting her pussy on a platter and handing it to you.

You really dropped that ball on that one. On top of that, if you say she was rich. . .you could have leveraged that to have her give you money for shit Mack game style. . .

yeah you messed up there.

Post: #55

I'm noticing a higher flake rate with this demographic. They seem to have an inflated sense of self-value, when I'm banging perfectly sweet girls a solid point higher. Anyone confirm this?

Post: #56

(03-24-2016 02:31 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

Agreed.

Post: #57

(08-10-2016 02:08 PM)CJ_W Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 12:24 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  Not sure if this should be included as part of this thread, but I ran into a very wealthy Chinese FOB in Los Angeles today. She was a 6-7 looks wise; probably the hottest Cantonese I've seen in a while, but that's not saying much.

I was at a function and we spoke for less than 10 minutes, but it was pretty painful talking to her.

Here's some parts of the conversation:

Me: Hi. I'm WalterBlack
Her: Hi, I'm xxxxxx how's your day going? Where are you from?
Me: Guess
Her: India, Pakistan...well you have good English, so Hong Kong? [I'm British-Indian]
Me: UK. You're from China, right?
Her: Yeah, I'm Cantonese, but my parents still live in China because they do not speak English, so I do business on their behalf in the US.
Me: I've been to China, I went to...
Her: [she starts talking before I finish] I have a couple of businesses and I am a partner in a Hollywood production studio - I was brought in to bring in Chinese money. I also have a lot of houses that I own and rent out, I'm gonna try and sell them soon.
Me: That's cool, so what..
Her: [she starts talking before I finish] What do you like to do for fun? I want to talk to classy guys...[I think she's looking for a rich guy to marry]
Me: I like to travel, eat and..
Her: [she starts talking before I finish]. I love to eat, and I love to cook too. [She starts showing me pictures of stuff she made on her phone]
Me: So what's your favourite cuisine? I like..
Her: I love Italian and French food. I love Italy and France. I have been going every year since I was 16. I travel a lot.
Me: That's nice. I've been to Italy...
Her: [she starts talking before I finish] I can paint too and draw, I do it for fun but I am good enough to make a living from it [starts showing me her artwork on her phone. I've student art, and she's nothing special]. I'm very talents and I'm good at a lot of things.
Me: hey, it was nice talking to you but I need to make a call...[I walked away from her]

I could sense that she wasn't particularly into me, so I moved on...

I tried to play my "I've been to China" and "I know about Chinese food" cards that I throw in conversations with Chinese FOBs. Usually it goes pretty well, but this woman could not just stop talking about herself so I nexted her.

I estimate that this woman is worth at least 7, maybe even 8 figures USD [almost certainly all parents' money], but she was so self centred and irritating I was glad to get the fuck away from her. It was like she wanted me to be an audience for her to talk about herself, she never gave a me a chance to speak about myself.

What?

Thats the best kind of woman, the more a woman talks to you about herself and the more you FACILITATE that, the more into you she becomes. . .you become a `good listener` All you gotta do is just steer the conversation to where you want to go. If you get her out to drinks, you can steer the conversation to sex: `What was your last boyfriend like?` The fact that she was talking to you about herself so easily was like just putting her pussy on a platter and handing it to you.

You really dropped that ball on that one. On top of that, if you say she was rich. . .you could have leveraged that to have her give you money for shit Mack game style. . .

yeah you messed up there.

Shit this one is old... but that guy did indeed drop the Ball on this one! Usually in Pickup you have to fight to do the 90/10 rule where you speak 90% of the time until she's being responsive and talks back... yet this guy had a chick that gave him gems right off the spot ! Hope he learned from the feedback!!

Post: #58

(08-10-2016 02:08 PM)CJ_W Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 12:24 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  Not sure if this should be included as part of this thread, but I ran into a very wealthy Chinese FOB in Los Angeles today. She was a 6-7 looks wise; probably the hottest Cantonese I've seen in a while, but that's not saying much.

I was at a function and we spoke for less than 10 minutes, but it was pretty painful talking to her.

Here's some parts of the conversation:

Me: Hi. I'm WalterBlack
Her: Hi, I'm xxxxxx how's your day going? Where are you from?
Me: Guess
Her: India, Pakistan...well you have good English, so Hong Kong? [I'm British-Indian]
Me: UK. You're from China, right?
Her: Yeah, I'm Cantonese, but my parents still live in China because they do not speak English, so I do business on their behalf in the US.
Me: I've been to China, I went to...
Her: [she starts talking before I finish] I have a couple of businesses and I am a partner in a Hollywood production studio - I was brought in to bring in Chinese money. I also have a lot of houses that I own and rent out, I'm gonna try and sell them soon.
Me: That's cool, so what..
Her: [she starts talking before I finish] What do you like to do for fun? I want to talk to classy guys...[I think she's looking for a rich guy to marry]
Me: I like to travel, eat and..
Her: [she starts talking before I finish]. I love to eat, and I love to cook too. [She starts showing me pictures of stuff she made on her phone]
Me: So what's your favourite cuisine? I like..
Her: I love Italian and French food. I love Italy and France. I have been going every year since I was 16. I travel a lot.
Me: That's nice. I've been to Italy...
Her: [she starts talking before I finish] I can paint too and draw, I do it for fun but I am good enough to make a living from it [starts showing me her artwork on her phone. I've student art, and she's nothing special]. I'm very talents and I'm good at a lot of things.
Me: hey, it was nice talking to you but I need to make a call...[I walked away from her]

I could sense that she wasn't particularly into me, so I moved on...

I tried to play my "I've been to China" and "I know about Chinese food" cards that I throw in conversations with Chinese FOBs. Usually it goes pretty well, but this woman could not just stop talking about herself so I nexted her.

I estimate that this woman is worth at least 7, maybe even 8 figures USD [almost certainly all parents' money], but she was so self centred and irritating I was glad to get the fuck away from her. It was like she wanted me to be an audience for her to talk about herself, she never gave a me a chance to speak about myself.

What?

Thats the best kind of woman, the more a woman talks to you about herself and the more you FACILITATE that, the more into you she becomes. . .you become a `good listener` All you gotta do is just steer the conversation to where you want to go. If you get her out to drinks, you can steer the conversation to sex: `What was your last boyfriend like?` The fact that she was talking to you about herself so easily was like just putting her pussy on a platter and handing it to you.

You really dropped that ball on that one. On top of that, if you say she was rich. . .you could have leveraged that to have her give you money for shit Mack game style. . .

yeah you messed up there.

Shit this one is old... but that guy did indeed drop the Ball on this one! Usually in Pickup you have to fight to do the 90/10 rule where you speak 90% of the time until she's being responsive and talks back... yet this guy had a chick that gave him gems right off the spot ! Hope he learned from the feedback!!

Post: #59

I'm actually interested in figuring out my issue with being able to pull Asian-Americans lately, and what I gathered from this thread was:

1. Do not let her think you have yellow fever
2. Be more indirect and aloof

Aside from those two things I think the entire thread was about how guys feel about Asian-American girls, so not really useful.

I don't get the opportunity to approach many Asian girls in general where I game, and my day game style with any girl is to approach very directly, and follow up by either joking around or trying to connect with them based on information I may have about their race/nationality.

I'm guessing this is entirely the wrong way to go with Asian-American girls?

I've also noticed that this group up girls won't give me the time of day since I have put on lots of weight, whereas I don't have that problem nearly as much with any other race except maybe white girls.

Post: #60

I don't know why people think Asian guys can't get Asian girls in America. All my Asian friends are married to Asian American girls. I've never had trouble and have been dating and banging them my whole life. Maybe it's a Boston or SF thing. Go to any Chinatown and you'll see thousands of Asian couples.

Another thing is you can't lump all Asians together. That's like saying American, English, Polish, Italian, and Russian women all have the same looks and personality. Japanese are very different from Thai. Koreans are different from Flips. How long they have been in America and jow they were raised also makes a huge difference. SE Asians are cliquesh. Japanese are very whitewashed. Flips are also very open to other races. Chinese are also cliquesh but less than SEA.

Post: #61

Asian genes, American calories and diet, best of both worlds. Only problem is bitchy terrible attitudes. Basic white girls in Asian bodies. Still though, they're my favorite.

Post: #62

(03-26-2016 01:20 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  Maybe it's different here in Toronto, but the Asians are in general hands down more Alpha than white guys over here. You can tell that they have a chip on their shoulder a bit. And the best part is that most of them have their shit together, at least physically, because they are the swollest group of guys in T.O relative to respective genetics. I do realize that Toronto might be the Outlier here since sex dynamics are fucked in the Head though! Anyway much Respect to them cause very few of them are whiny little bitches when they could have very good reasons to be a bunch of cunts

Are you referring to the women?

They aren't even close to be the swollest group of guys in T.O...lol

Post: #63

Asian girls as in original Asians are great. Asian American girls are the bottom of the barrel in my opinion, worse than even native American girls. They're just as far as other races, very prone to SJW-ism and combine OCD-ish personalities (which could be easily tolerated and even considered cute when mixed with femininity) with arrogance and aggressiveness.

This is easily explained through the age-old example:

Post: #64

I was just talking to my buddy about this today, and we decided that Asian women in America fall into three camps.

Ghetto: Some iteration of your typical female hoodrat. I have a theory that this is partially a rebellion against overzealous and controlling parents. Gaming these girls is fairly simple. I've had plenty of success in using both status, and cultural relevancy to bang these types of girls quickly. By cultural relevancy I mean in terms of rap, pop-culture, etc. These types of girls also tend to run in pretty wide social circles, so if you can break in it's usually pretty straightforward in terms of social circle game.

Basic White Equivalent: Basically AWALT to the T. Has no interests besides drinking, netflix and otherwise. Passes time while glued to the i-phone. Still, typically high achievers in school and otherwise because of parental and cultural influences not present in the white population. Gaming these girls is the same as running standard game, nothing to see here.

Asian-y: You guys know what I'm talking about. Really cliquey (with other Asians). These are usually girls over on student visas, or in the case of communities, girls who aren't super outgoing. Generally they are pretty shy and isolated, considering that these are the girls that emphasize the "traditional" Asian values of deference/submission. However, considering the role that shame plays in these communities, ingratiating yourself over some of the programming these women have from their fathers and from their culture is difficult. Of the three groups, this is the group I tend to enjoy the most. Although once you separate them from their communities, they get bitchy just like any other woman, so proceed accordingly.

Social circle game is king here. Meet one of their friends (a guy), ingratiate yourself with him, and I've found you'll get invited to their "family" dinners. The ratios I've seen are pretty good. Make sure to thank the host profusely, and demonstrate good manners as well as strong cultural knowledge. The women afterwards are going to want to do the dishes. I always make it a point to get in there and do the dishes with them. Gives me a chance to single out the receptive ones, and establish comfort/light flirtation. If it goes well? I'll pitch the date, grab the number, and go from there. I got one of my current LTRs started like this, and around a half dozen other bangs over the last couple years besides.

I'm curious what everyone else here thinks in terms of divisions within Asian Americans and gaming strategies. I personally really love Asian women, but sometimes their xenophobia mixed with American culture can get kind of ugly.

Post: #65

Asian American girls are a very mixed bunch.

I can say that Chinese including American-Born Chinese (ABCs) are the most enlightened of the lot. Many have assimilated in the US for multiple generations so hooking up with an American has probably happened in the extended family. They also have the worst bodies imho.

Japanese are quite isolated to certain geographic regions including CA and HI. The ones I've met are very cliquey but open to friendships. It helps to understand the deeper part of their culture - not sushi and tea but the repression, focus on ceremony and preoccupation with the big social three...sex, money and family honor. They are very introspective, so intellectual game is a useful angle.

Koreans are the most damaged in my experience. The ones I've know straddle church and living in the underworld. That makes for a crazy mixture that usually explodes about 6 months into the relationship. Most of the ones I've know seem to constantly be trying to find their purpose (in school, in life, in relationships) or downright need psychological treatment. Lots of SNLs to be had with the ones in their 20s and even 30s. Looks really go downhill after early 40s. The stereotypes are real...yellow wrinkled pussy is horrible.

The common thread is that all the ones I've known are super attracted to social standing, height, and light hair. It's a weird combination but just spend some time in Los Angeles, Irvine, Honolulu, and any major city Chinatown for a while.

Interested to hear others' impressions.

Post: #66

(04-04-2017 08:17 PM)Investment Bro Wrote:  Asian-y: Social circle game is king here. Meet one of their friends (a guy), ingratiate yourself with him, and I've found you'll get invited to their "family" dinners. The ratios I've seen are pretty good. Make sure to thank the host profusely, and demonstrate good manners as well as strong cultural knowledge. The women afterwards are going to want to do the dishes. I always make it a point to get in there and do the dishes with them. Gives me a chance to single out the receptive ones, and establish comfort/light flirtation. If it goes well? I'll pitch the date, grab the number, and go from there. I got one of my current LTRs started like this, and around a half dozen other bangs over the last couple years besides.

That's a nice strategy. This kind of girl is generally just referred to as an FOB or fresh off the boat. I also find them cuter, but have little success with them from straightforward daygame.

Post: #67

(04-04-2017 08:53 PM)Sewage2016 Wrote:  The stereotypes are real...yellow wrinkled pussy is horrible.

Wrinkled pussy, huh? Curious as to how big your sample size is and what kind of demographic you're drawing from.

Post: #68

(04-04-2017 08:55 PM)churros Wrote:  

(04-04-2017 08:17 PM)Investment Bro Wrote:  Asian-y: Social circle game is king here. Meet one of their friends (a guy), ingratiate yourself with him, and I've found you'll get invited to their "family" dinners. The ratios I've seen are pretty good. Make sure to thank the host profusely, and demonstrate good manners as well as strong cultural knowledge. The women afterwards are going to want to do the dishes. I always make it a point to get in there and do the dishes with them. Gives me a chance to single out the receptive ones, and establish comfort/light flirtation. If it goes well? I'll pitch the date, grab the number, and go from there. I got one of my current LTRs started like this, and around a half dozen other bangs over the last couple years besides.

That's a nice strategy. This kind of girl is generally just referred to as an FOB or fresh off the boat. I also find them cuter, but have little success with them from straightforward daygame.

100% agree with this. I have a Japanese partner and the amount of single women that would make great partners I see though social events (dinners etc.) is amazing. Lots of students and even older ones in their early thirties. Very feminie and you wonder how come they are single. Of course plenty of Asian chicks around that are just as slutty as the locals, I'm not talking about them.

Post: #69

(08-08-2016 05:17 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  I know many very westernised Asian Australian girls including Eurasians, and I've noticed a huge change in the younger early 20s ones vs the older ones around my age (late 20s to early 30s now, but they've been the same way since they were younger).

The latter date mostly white guys, especially the half Asian chicks. They're often openly hostile towards Asian guys in many ways that have been discussed to death here.

The former have gone the opposite way. They prefer dating westernised and muscular Asian guys almost exclusively. They are openly hostile towards beta white guys with yellow fever.

It's because they grew up in a culture where they were constantly bombarded with propaganda to make them hate white men. Although I don't see my grandchildren getting pussy reparations for this latest bout of MSM inspired anti-white racism.

Post: #70

(04-05-2017 03:14 AM)Razor Beast Wrote:  

(08-08-2016 05:17 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  I know many very westernised Asian Australian girls including Eurasians, and I've noticed a huge change in the younger early 20s ones vs the older ones around my age (late 20s to early 30s now, but they've been the same way since they were younger).

The latter date mostly white guys, especially the half Asian chicks. They're often openly hostile towards Asian guys in many ways that have been discussed to death here.

The former have gone the opposite way. They prefer dating westernised and muscular Asian guys almost exclusively. They are openly hostile towards beta white guys with yellow fever.

It's because they grew up in a culture where they were constantly bombarded with propaganda to make them hate white men. Although I don't see my grandchildren getting pussy reparations for this latest bout of MSM inspired anti-white racism.

So you're saying that magically asians should like white dudes and that them dating their own amounts to "anti-white racism"?

Nice

Go shitpost about politics elsewhere.

Post: #71

In the West and the US especially, women with the following traits are most highly sought after:

1) Slim (not thick, not skinny, but just right)
2) Straight hair
3) Smooth skin, lighter the better it would seem
4) Smart (highly educated)
5) Age well

Of course different guys have different preferences, but broadly speaking, those are the traits women considered beautiful/sexy/attractive in the US will possess.

While women like this exist in every demographic, Asian women tend to very commonly possess all or most of the above traits, more so than Latinas/Blacks/Indans etc. It's not surprising therefore that they'd be the only serious competition to white women for #1 on the totem pole.

FOB Asian women (especially Chinese, from what I've seen) often tend to be too skinny and flat-assed/chested, but Asian American women tend to have a little bit more meat on them (American diet etc etc).

I've found Korean women to be extremely beautiful though.

Post: #72

As an Asian-American guy myself I'm far more attracted to Asian girls from Asia than Asian-Americans. AAs like to tan themselves to Latina or African-American shades, whereas Asian girls avoid tanning like it's nuclear fallout and retain that beautiful contrast between their hair and skin. Also AA girls have a 2/3rds chance of acting almost exactly like their white counterparts whereas FOBs often stay relatively pleasant even if their English gets good.

Without surgery, Koreans tend to have kind of flat, broad Mongol faces, but they have good physiques. Chinese tend to have a healthy mix of Asian traits. Southerners are likelier to be small and petite, with daintier facial features, northerners have stockier builds and overall it seems larger heads. Asian women generally have uninteresting butts but I think that's fine since the ass fetish seems to come from a more bestial or perhaps scatological instinct.

Quote:100% agree with this. I have a Japanese partner and the amount of single women that would make great partners I see though social events (dinners etc.) is amazing. Lots of students and even older ones in their early thirties. Very feminie and you wonder how come they are single. Of course plenty of Asian chicks around that are just as slutty as the locals, I'm not talking about them.

My wife is one of these, I married her when she was 21 and she's incredibly responsible and thinks of necessary things that even I miss. She's also got a bunch of friends that are around her level or higher, yet unmarried.

Many East Asian women are focused on getting a career and then using that position to find as high-status of a man they can. They will wait for a long time to make it happen. In China this has created a caste of "leftover women" and the "third gender" of "female PhDs" to are not attractive or socially astute enough to land a husband after securing education and work.

Post: #73

(04-05-2017 12:03 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  In the West and the US especially, women with the following traits are most highly sought after:

1) Slim (not thick, not skinny, but just right)
2) Straight hair
3) Smooth skin, lighter the better it would seem
4) Smart (highly educated)
5) Age well

Of course different guys have different preferences, but broadly speaking, those are the traits women considered beautiful/sexy/attractive in the US will possess.

While women like this exist in every demographic, Asian women tend to very commonly possess all or most of the above traits, more so than Latinas/Blacks/Indans etc. It's not surprising therefore that they'd be the only serious competition to white women for #1 on the totem pole.

FOB Asian women (especially Chinese, from what I've seen) often tend to be too skinny and flat-assed/chested, but Asian American women tend to have a little bit more meat on them (American diet etc etc).

I've found Korean women to be extremely beautiful though.

I disagree with this. I think in the United States, tan skin is considered attractive. Tanning is a big thing in the US, being pale isn't trending the US like it is in Asia or Eastern Europe. White women with a tan > white women with pale skin in the US imo.

Latin women are by more sexualized than any other ethnicity in the United States. I'm not sure how Asians are considered #1 on the totem pole, I'm assuming this has to do with how they are most sought after on online dating? I think that can be answered by scarcity, there are a lot less Asian Americans than there are the other major ethnic groups.


I'm not sure if Americans care about women being highly educated either. A women's value is still largely tried to how good looking they are in America.

Post: #74

I don't agree. Tanning was big in the 80's but now its not so popular. Few of the female movie stars or models are tanned anymore

Post: #75

This is the one ethnic group I have had the most success with in the US. More than half are insecure about their race and have this hang up to bang as white as possible. Yeah I'll admit that's a big plus for a Nordic guy.

Pretty much mirroring what guys have already said, social circle is huge. A lot of attraction around status (ties in with the white lust) and I feel like a cliché for saying it but the daddy issue are also rampant. I'll admit this might not apply for the ghetto group which I've had little contact with.