Post: #2601

For something of more interest to this forum...

I think it's a bit overstated how important Spanish is. You can definitely bang cute/hot girls here if you don't speak Spanish well, but it'll be nearly impossible to have a normal relationship. Approaching girls in the day time with my broken ass Spanish is working pretty well and leads to sex pretty easily. It's just frustrating for me (and the girls) that I speak like a child. I've noticed that as long as you have the balls to initiate (and approach her well and with good body language), it's pretty easy from there to get laid. Sometimes it takes persistence.

Or maybe Colombianas just like gringos.

Post: #2602

(04-18-2019 04:04 PM)travolta Wrote:  Are there any shoe stores in Medellin which sell Adidas or Nike sneakers (or any other good brand) at a reasonable price? Seems like there's crazy markups wherever I go. In the US you can walk into an outlet store and buy either of these brands for cheap, as long as you're willing to buy styles from previous seasons

From what I've seen this kind of thing is going to be more expensive because it's imported and taxed. That's provided they're authentic. I saw a bunch of cheap knockoffs at the minorista.

Post: #2603

(04-18-2019 04:04 PM)travolta Wrote:  Are there any shoe stores in Medellin which sell Adidas or Nike sneakers (or any other good brand) at a reasonable price? Seems like there's crazy markups wherever I go. In the US you can walk into an outlet store and buy either of these brands for cheap, as long as you're willing to buy styles from previous seasons

I don't know where the "contraband" malls are in Medellin but in Bogota they have places where people sell stuff that was imported illegally not paying the 19% tax that colombia charges. The problem is those can also easily be fake. You can also find people who import them illegally and sell on instagram if you look hard enough.

Your best bet is to order them off amazon or ebay to a shipping service in the US and pay them to send it to you in Colombia, unless you know how to tell the difference between real and fake shoes.

Post: #2604

Hola a todos!

I'm heading to Bogota on an open-ended trip in the next two weeks, and just thought I'd post here to see if anyone has any advice, recommendations, etc.

I haven't been there in about 2-3 years, so not sure what's new in terms of nightlife spots, places to meet people, etc. I've been hitting up Colombia Cupid, Tinder, and Couch Surfing to see if I can get some dates ahead of time, so we'll see how that pans out.

Also happy to meet up with anyone on the forum, as I'll be working from home. Thanks again guys, any advice is appreciated, and maybe see some of you there!

Post: #2605

(04-19-2019 01:03 AM)Antonio_Rutherford Wrote:  Hola a todos!

I'm heading to Bogota on an open-ended trip in the next two weeks, and just thought I'd post here to see if anyone has any advice, recommendations, etc.

I haven't been there in about 2-3 years, so not sure what's new in terms of nightlife spots, places to meet people, etc. I've been hitting up Colombia Cupid, Tinder, and Couch Surfing to see if I can get some dates ahead of time, so we'll see how that pans out.

Also happy to meet up with anyone on the forum, as I'll be working from home. Thanks again guys, any advice is appreciated, and maybe see some of you there!

I found that Tinder worked really well in Bogota, whereas it's complete dog shit in Medellin. You'll get way hotter girls if you meet them in real life instead of Tinder, but it's nice to have Tinder as an option anyway

Post: #2606

(04-19-2019 01:36 PM)travolta Wrote:  

(04-19-2019 01:03 AM)Antonio_Rutherford Wrote:  Hola a todos!

I'm heading to Bogota on an open-ended trip in the next two weeks, and just thought I'd post here to see if anyone has any advice, recommendations, etc.

I haven't been there in about 2-3 years, so not sure what's new in terms of nightlife spots, places to meet people, etc. I've been hitting up Colombia Cupid, Tinder, and Couch Surfing to see if I can get some dates ahead of time, so we'll see how that pans out.

Also happy to meet up with anyone on the forum, as I'll be working from home. Thanks again guys, any advice is appreciated, and maybe see some of you there!

I found that Tinder worked really well in Bogota, whereas it's complete dog shit in Medellin. You'll get way hotter girls if you meet them in real life instead of Tinder, but it's nice to have Tinder as an option anyway

Thanks dude! Yeah I have it on location switch to Bogota but haven't gotten too many matches. Maybe need to reset my account. Curious about Bumble, that's worked ok for me in eastern Europe. But maybe hasn't caught on yet in Colombia. I won't give up on Tinder though per your advice.

But yeah for sure, I'm going to do the Gringo Tuesday thing and get involved with some activities. Plus I'm right next to Uni Andes so probably scope some DG there (not sure if you have any advice in that respect).

Cheers!

Post: #2607

(04-18-2019 11:05 PM)Shimmy Wrote:  

(04-18-2019 04:04 PM)travolta Wrote:  Are there any shoe stores in Medellin which sell Adidas or Nike sneakers (or any other good brand) at a reasonable price? Seems like there's crazy markups wherever I go. In the US you can walk into an outlet store and buy either of these brands for cheap, as long as you're willing to buy styles from previous seasons

I don't know where the "contraband" malls are in Medellin but in Bogota they have places where people sell stuff that was imported illegally not paying the 19% tax that colombia charges. The problem is those can also easily be fake. You can also find people who import them illegally and sell on instagram if you look hard enough.

Your best bet is to order them off amazon or ebay to a shipping service in the US and pay them to send it to you in Colombia, unless you know how to tell the difference between real and fake shoes.

Basically all those small stores selling Nike,Adidas etc. gear are selling fakes, it goes without saying, all the locals know the stuff is fake but they don't care.

Post: #2608

(04-19-2019 04:26 PM)Antonio_Rutherford Wrote:  I won't give up on Tinder though per your advice.

My advise is to not waste your time on tinder. Go outside and meet more normal girls in real life.

Post: #2609

(04-18-2019 04:07 PM)travolta Wrote:  For something of more interest to this forum...

I think it's a bit overstated how important Spanish is. You can definitely bang cute/hot girls here if you don't speak Spanish well, but it'll be nearly impossible to have a normal relationship. Approaching girls in the day time with my broken ass Spanish is working pretty well and leads to sex pretty easily. It's just frustrating for me (and the girls) that I speak like a child. I've noticed that as long as you have the balls to initiate (and approach her well and with good body language), it's pretty easy from there to get laid. Sometimes it takes persistence.

Or maybe Colombianas just like gringos.

Funny that's exactly the opposite from what I have seen in Medellin.

Gringos (even good looking one) that didnt have Spanish skills couldnt bang any of the really hot ones - the one you should go for - but had to settle for mediocre Tinder sluts.

I don't know about the rest of Colombia but thats my experience by hanging around upper class areas and people in Medellin.

Post: #2610

(04-18-2019 04:07 PM)travolta Wrote:  For something of more interest to this forum...

I think it's a bit overstated how important Spanish is. You can definitely bang cute/hot girls here if you don't speak Spanish well, but it'll be nearly impossible to have a normal relationship. Approaching girls in the day time with my broken ass Spanish is working pretty well and leads to sex pretty easily. It's just frustrating for me (and the girls) that I speak like a child. I've noticed that as long as you have the balls to initiate (and approach her well and with good body language), it's pretty easy from there to get laid. Sometimes it takes persistence.

Or maybe Colombianas just like gringos.

Funny that's exactly the opposite from what I have seen in Medellin.

Gringos (even good looking one) that didnt have Spanish skills couldnt bang any of the really hot ones - the one you should go for - but had to settle for mediocre Tinder sluts.

I don't know about the rest of Colombia but thats my experience by hanging around upper class areas in Medellin. There seems to be a stigmata for Poblado girls to be in a relationship with gringos.

Many people in this thread have agreed with me so would be interesting to know more about where were you gaming what kind of girls etc.

Post: #2611

Day game around El Poblado, salsa classes. I've hardly gone out at night in Medellin so can't comment much on that. Most girls I've been with in Colombia are in college, 20-26 age range, light skinned (I've had 1 dark skinned Venezuelan girls, but I prefer the light skinned look). Don't get my wrong, I can speak basic Spanish, I'm just really bad at it.. probably about 2nd grade level. My Spanish is bad, but I'm usually able to make girls laugh with stupid jokes. Girls usually find it cool when I talk about my travel/working remote/extreme sports lifestyle. It's not very difficult to differentiate myself from the typical Gringo that comes to Medellin for drugs and whores. Just be an interesting person.

What stigma? Sounds like BS... Half the people in Colombia have lived in Miami or dream to visit the US.

Post: #2612

I remember back in 2013 I was dating a chica in Medellin and she was worried about telling her family that she was dating me and when I asked why she said because they'd think I'd rape her or something lol, seriously. Guys, there have been some really shitty gringos in the Colombian news, like guys fucking kids and building entire businesses around pedo shit where guys flew to Medellin from all over the world to fuck kids and the Colombian media hypes it up. These are the types of guys who give gringos a bad name: https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-took-...get-caught

Quote:The wonder of it is that Jake, a 53-year-old former high school baseball star from Florida whose real name is Jay Harry Drivas, wasn’t nabbed long before. Even by the low standards of “escort service” advertising, his cobbled-together websites—including colombiajake.com—were crude, crass, and to the point. When Drivas was arrested in Medellín, after what police claimed was a months-long investigation, they said they found $10,600 in cash, as well as cocaine and ecstasy, at his three-bedroom property. They found an inflatable tub there as well (which figures in some of his publicity pictures), and they found a 13-year-old girl (some reports say 12), who is now with social services.

I think Paisas are a bit hypocritical to stereotype gringo dudes considering that the whore culture existed there long before the wave of horny foreigners arrived, anyone who's been to a local strip joint can attest to that, the crowds are usually 95%+ locals. Also the love of money-especially easy, fast money is part of life there. Honestly I don't think it's a huge deal- the whole hookers and blow thing, if I want to do rails of cocaine off of a strippers ass at a seedy club near Parque Barrio, why not? I do the same thing back home, it's just cheaper in Colombia!

The thing that gets me is the idiot gringos who are full on obvious sex tourists and have no fucking shame, the guys walking around in shitty clothes (shorts, flip flops) with an obvious prepago are such weirdos, if you want to bang a hot hooker, just do it at your hotel or wherever, taking these low class skanks to high end restaurants is fucking embarrassing.

Anyway, very few gringos, including the top RVF players are dating high end local chicas, it's not a big deal. Some of them are dating some fucking hot ones though, Swooptheworld member THC just sent me some pics of the chica he's banging now, fucking top shelf!

The only guy I know of who legit married into high society in Medellin, is from a small town in Nova Scotia like me and he moved there 12 years ago and started up a very successful company, the Colombian government actually recruited his company to come down from Canada and he set up shop. Within 6 months he divorced his Canadian wife then wifed up an 18 year old local chica from a wealthy family, fucking legend.

Post: #2613

To the guys struggling to get laid, what are you even doing in Colombia? 99% of dudes I meet travel only to party, bang chicks, maybe study the language (for the sole purpose of banging chicks, lols), go to the beach. You're probably just not very interesting to these girls and they lump you in with the typical tourist. IMO you need to have some real meaning for why you're traveling to Colombia (or any country), otherwise you'll be lumped into some stereotype. If these girls don't think you're the most interesting person they've ever met, then you might need to get some new hobbies outside of pickup. That's my $0.02 anyway.

edit: I guess it's easy for me to be interesting since I've been traveling for 10+ years, so maybe this advice is more geared towards the younger guys on here- get hobbies outside of pickup and pickup ironically will become much easier.

Post: #2614

I agree with Travolta, I think the biggest thing is if you go to Colombia you have to have a plan or other interests. If your going to get laid it isn't the best use of your time and or money. To get one of the higher quality women you have to speak decent Spanish and be there longer than a few days otherwise you are labeled as a typical sex tourists to those women with real jobs and careers (8's and above). If you go there and bang the ugly women and hookers and party with drugs then I guess it can be worth it if you enjoy that, I don't.

Post: #2615

Don't forget that it's entirely possible for a guy to go to Colombia, especially Medellin and not get laid at all. Imagine spending thousands of dollars to go to a "poosy paradise" and not get laid lol, that would suck but it happens, more often than many guys on here seem to realize. Some guys can't even get laid by mediocre ghetto skanks, or worse they get those sluts and then get drugged and robbed JAJAJAJAJAJA!!!!

Post: #2616

Travolta I wasnt calling you out or anything but I met probably a dozen RVF guy down in Medellin and the guys that have got better quality (I ll put myself into it because I done pretty decent after I got hold of the vibe of the place) we all speak good spanish, have been here for years - not me - and/or are approach machines. The rest were scraping off tinder and/or banging Lleras hookers (I dont have anything against it).

I have yet to see a guy with basic Spanish that gets the hot rich girls that you see around El Tesoro because they have so many options. If you are managing to do that much better for you and I am happy to be proven wrong by an RVF bro.

Regarding the parts about being interesting - that sounds just like a cliché to be honest. I have banged more Colombians than I can count and from different social classes, from doctors to girls distributing flyers at the mall. Way more upper class girls than barrios in fact.
And I can tell you that 90% of them could give two shit where have you been travelling they just care about what you make them feel in that moment. Thats true for all latinas perhaps. Upper scale european girls are way more pragmatic in this regard.

Post: #2617

I don't claim to get top quality. All the girls I've had in Colombia have been 7's at best. I'd like to get 8's and 9's, but I'm not complaining about the quality I've been getting here- they've been way hotter than I've gotten in the US and Asia. My point is that without Spanish you can still get decent girls in Colombia without using Tinder or getting hookers. I know I can get much hotter girls if I were better at Spanish, that's just obvious. I haven't even been to El Tesoro, but I'll have to check it out.

Post: #2618

Don’t worry about el Tesoro,,,,go to places where you feel comfortable and confident. This is where you will shine. If El Tesoro is it, so be it. But to pick up girls there, (the mall) I wouldn’t recommend it. That’s just me. All the girls working there don’t live there. Hit the gyms in the vicinity from 5-8pm and see what local talent is there. This is for the “9-5” working girls. As for the younger ones, I suspect early afternoons. Anyhow, I’m sure you can time it.

Good luck

Post: #2619

For the average guy that goes to Colombia on a short trip of a couple weeks or so there isn't much point in worrying about what social class the girl is from or things like that. Most guys want to bang chicks, so if you aren't fussy just bang the bargain bin or discount rack Tinder slut. Don't take them out anywhere except to a cheap bar if needed.

Estrato 2 and Estrato 5/6 pussy feels the same.

No point in going to El Tesoro, most the girls are with their boyfriends, husbands or kids. Even if they are single they don't want to associate with sex tourists, which most people on here are, let's be honest

Post: #2620

The reputation Scotian talks about is real but it doesn't concern guys like the ones in this forum. It's mainly about the backpacker type and the 60y/o fat losers who hang out in el lleras and take hookers into dinners. The elites are leaving and choosing Sabaneta and Rionegro as a more pleasant area to relocate. Trust me guys Rionegro will be great once el tunel de oriente gets finished.

Now, by knowing the average type of guys who are in this forum, objectively speaking, the difference between settling down on a LTR with the girl on the first picture and banging one like in the second picture every weekend for you guys I think is good game, good spanish, social circle and a bit of luck like everything in life.

Top shelf medellin quality may look like this.


Just plain, boring and average upper middle class girls. They are probably a 6 or 7 in Medellin. Yikes.


Ugly

Post: #2621

How much time will the tunnel cut down on travel time?

Ana Sofia Henao (the mona in Lonewolf's pics) is one of the hottest pieces of ass out there for me. What is she 34/35? She's aged really well and I think the left picture she is a bit fatter due to her recent pregnancy.

If you have a social circle, decent game/money and roots in Colombia it will enable you to score top drawer cooze. It takes more effort to get a decent social circle than to go out dates with girls but it will pay massive dividends if you are looking for more than a tinder bang or ONS.

Post: #2622

I’d go live back in Europe if I wanted to bang white women ... I personally would take those tanned skinned 6 or 7s over that white Colombian any day. I believe most brothas are traveling down to South America to date the Afro and tanned population from my observations.. So these are 6 or 7s in your eyes but a few in that pic are solid 8s to us.. it’s just comes down to preference.

Post: #2623

i think going out and having fun is key with women. if you can bring that high energy fun personality then it helps. I hear a lot of complaining which is frustrating for me cause often these places a lot of people would be really happy to have the opportunity to game in

Within a few years of manosphere studying and some psychology related research i actually started to feel comfortable with my game.
its all there you just need to find it.

i feel with the right bankroll and logistical setup guys can pull anywhere.

Post: #2624

The problem here is that we all talk about "Colombia", but not about specific cities. The country is diverse. Bogota is very different than Medellin. I do agree that it's possible to bang decent girls in Bogota without Spanish. In Medellin not so much.

In Medellin I've met and seen a lot of guys, who didn't know Spanish and the girls they banged (or tried to). Honestly, I would rather stay home.

Post: #2625

I agree with semibarron. That this thread is too general and not city specific. Bogota is different than Medellin in many aspects.

Anywhere in the world to get top tier chicks who come from the upper middle class and above takes time, money and social connections for the most part. Yes, you have gorgeous girls from the poorer parts and it can be easier in some ways and vice versa difficult. Each type of girl has their own different issues and ones that are common.

I said this before, to date the upper middle class and above girls get ready to fork over money going to fincas or travelling for puentes (long weekends) and holidays. Get ready to go to all of her friends birthday parties and her family weddings, christenings and birthday parties for the kids. Your weekends will be shot. Don't believe me. Ask any dude who is dating a girl from a estrato 5-6 barrio if his gf or wife drags him to her friends or coworkers birthdays etc.
You think simple empanadas and arepas from the street corner are gonna keep her happy for long?
This fascination to date these types for those visiting is simply a pipe dream. Foreigners are still stigmatized as being sex tourists and below them.

Living there, it is possible. Just like others mentioned you will have to get local friends etc. Just get ready to spend spend spend. I will be frank. It will be cheaper for you to go to the most expensive casa or strip club and pay for it twice a week than to have such a girlfriend. Just saying.

Part of the allure for all of Colombia for me is the value I get for my dollar. Yes , there are certain things that are more expensive than my home base of Toronto, but to live a simple life, it's great. I do like to have the luxuries and to eat out etc. But it's much cheaper than Toronto. From taxis, food to booze. Colombia wins hands down. I'm off on a tangent.

For the majority of visitors to Colombia, do your best to get the girl you want. Just be socially aware of what you are seeking As for those who are living there, id say don't stress it and seek out the richer beautiful girls. If it happens great. If not, the chica from the estrato 2-3 and is happy with a few empanadas for lunch and is hot, is also a great choice.

I've seen foreigners with chicks you would think, why is he with her? Vice versa I've seen girls with foreigners and thought the same except I've suspected that there is a financial transaction going on.

Short term- guys just enjoy yourselves. Use your wit and social awareness when dealing with chicas. Utilize all avenues available to you from online to day game etc. Be content that certain girls will be more difficult to game and require more time. Which, you may not have a lot of time to do so. So use your time wisely. Have fun and be safe.

I hate to say it. I just hope we are not poisoning Colombia. I would hate it if we are also responsible for making Colombia like the west. I think somewhat we are partially guilty. If you date them, let them keep their culture. Even if you're not religious. Let them keep their faith. Why? Because the moment we bring in our culture they will start to lose theirs. Don't be pissies. Be more macho like some of their guys. I hope the gist is getting through.