Post: #1

Hey forum;

Been a while. Happy to be coming back with some positive developments. If anyone here is familiar with my previous threads, you know that I'm coming out of a pretty long & severe recovery process.

I had a troubled youth filled with insecurity which led to a pretty hardcore beta personality. It put me in a pretty terrible rut later in life.

I managed to hook up with some beautiful girls along the way in my 20s, but struggled a lot in between relationships. Had just one that lasted a few years. Then I moved to a different city and went several years without dating or banging anyone.

Had a female best friend who I fell in love with, and that was a horrible ordeal that brought a couple consecutive years of turmoil. I had started learning about game and red pill philosophy around that time, and i began a lot of self development and self-improvement work.

Unfortunately my progress was interrupted when I ran to some health complications that temporarily killed my sex drive set me back for a long period; metabolic syndrome.

So it's been a tough journey, but things are going quite a bit better now. I dated the hottest woman at work who everyone wants to bang. It only ended up lasting a few months because she's a little too much of an asshole to tolerate. Very very hot though. It was a great dry spell breaker. Fun while it lasted and great for my self-esteem.

I did some video editing for a renowned PUA, who is now a friend. I spent three days on the field with him doing cold approaches. I filmed his, and he filmed some of mine and gave thorough feedback. We spent a lot of time getting to know each other and it was a tremendous learning experience. I'm able to Skype or teleconference with him anytime. It's a great resource.

Around the same time I hit on a very cute 20yo college girl outside of a club, and we started seeing each other casually - nsa, but it's since escalated into more of a relationship. She turned 21 in dec. I turn 35 next week. It's been about 3.5mo since we started dating.

This girl is sexy, kinky, even funny and cool. It's pretty ideal. She lives and goes to school about an hour out of town, so I get the space I need, and I'm even allowed to game (which I sadly don't have time for) bc we're not strictly monogamous at this stage. That's great for me.

That said, I have met and stayed with her family now and things are getting more serious. We're definitely becoming a couple and are mostly exclusive. In many ways it's exactly what I was looking for - flexible, fun & low pressure. We have a clear understanding and she has no interest in settling down and having kids. Hallelujah.

To make things even more fun she's very adamant about having a threesome with another chick. And that's where I'm a little bit lacking in experience and can use some advice.

I'm sure there've been tons of posts written on this topic, so I'll do my homework. But I thought I'd hop back on the forum and see what you guys might like to share.

My first mini-effort is going to be inviting as many hot girls as I can to my bday outing next weekend. It's going to be a great gathering, a lot of very sexy talented people, even a couple of famous guests, so it's a good opportunity to show off. I'm especially targeting any that I suspect are poly and/or bi, and not intermingled in any of my close friendships.

I could introduce her to any sexy ladies who show up, or who we meet along the way. But I wonder if I should let her get a feel for them and try to detect their openness, or if I need to lead the process more in some way. Never really approached this before.

So I guess that's my question for the day. Any advice would be appreciated since the party is this coming weekend. But there will be plenty of other opportunities if nothing presents itself this time. I'm also going to do a conference call this week with my PUA coach and see what he has to say.

I'll let you guys know that this is only the 9th chick I've ever banged. Got BJs and stuff from a few others, but my numbers really aren't that high for someone my age. That's mostly because I've been really picky my whole life, only wanting to date 8+ caliber women, but crippling social anxiety and beta habits prevented me from having success for a very long time. I could never settle or lower my stantdards, and I'm glad that I never did.

I feel like this is a significant step in the right direction, so I made Don Draper my new avatar here i'm a huge fan of MM so I like to learn and take cues from Draper.

It was previously suggested that I change my name from epic beta to something a little more masculine to represent my progress and movement away from that part of my pastl. But I couldn't figure out how to change my name. Perhaps admin can help me out?

If not, at least I've got a Draper pic now to show that I'm getting somewhere, and maybe I'll be able to graduate from "beta orbiter" status sooner than later.

Thanks in advance!

EB

Post: #2

(03-07-2016 08:01 AM)EpicBeta Wrote:  I could introduce her to any sexy ladies who show up, or who we meet along the way. But I wonder if I should let her get a feel for them and try to detect their openness, or if I need to lead the process more in some way. Never really approached this before.

One of the greatest things about having a chick who's into 3 ways is that she will do most of the work for you. The chicks that are going to be into it will definitely be more responsive to her hitting on her than you.

Try and have fun with your chick in the process. Try pointing out girls you think are hot and ask " What do you think about her? She your type?" But don't overtly say "she's fucking hot I want to fuck her"...your chick may be super cool and into it but you are in deep water with this and can fuck up the whole thing if you aren't careful.

I once had a GF set up a 3 way with one of her insanely hot friends for my b;day. We were all rolling and it was an incredible night of licking sucking fucking and all manner of debauchery. I blew multiple loads in multiple holes and had my tongue, fingers and shank in every hole in the room. Im not sure but I think I may have even fucked myself in my own ass...it was that no holds barred

The next morning my chick got up to get in the shower only to come out and find my morning wood balls deep in her friend again... she was none too pleased to say the least.

Make a game of it, enjoy the shit out of it.... but make it be her choice , her experience. This is going get her really turned on and really vested in making it happen

(03-07-2016 08:01 AM)EpicBeta Wrote:  It was previously suggested that I change my name from epic beta to something a little more masculine to represent my progress and movement away from that part of my pastl. But I couldn't figure out how to change my name. Perhaps admin can help me out?

Send Roosh a PM. He will let you change your name once since you bought lifetime gold

Good luck...Enjoy!

Post: #3

"The next morning my chick got up to get in the shower only to come out and find my morning wood balls deep in her friend again... she was none too pleased to say the least."

LOL. Then what happened? Was this effective dread game or did it backfire?

Post: #4

(03-07-2016 10:51 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  "The next morning my chick got up to get in the shower only to come out and find my morning wood balls deep in her friend again... she was none too pleased to say the least."

LOL. Then what happened? Was this effective dread game or did it backfire?

The whole possession/ jealousy aspect of polyamory (which is what a 3 way is) is an emotional minefield. Think about it. How would you feel if your girl started seeing/ fucking the other girl when you weren't around?

In this case the GF freaked out on me and her friend both. Even though a few hours earlier she'd been sucking my balls while I fucked her friend from behind, she felt betrayed. It caught me off guard but afterwards I understood the source of it. It blew over and we ended up laughing about later on but it was a learning experience for me.

Post: #5

(03-07-2016 10:38 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  Im not sure but I think I may have even fucked myself in my own ass...it was that no holds barred

Holy Jeebus, thank you for making my day!

Post: #6

Good luck with the threesome, and please don't change your name to LegendaryBeta!

Post: #7

My threesome tip is make sure to nut in your girl. I squirted into our guest and dealt with whining and squawking for months afterwards.

Post: #8

Hahaha awesome feedback. Thanks guys

Post: #9

(03-07-2016 12:04 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Good luck with the threesome, and please don't change your name to LegendaryBeta!

Don't worry lol

Post: #10

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Send Roosh a PM. He will let you change your name once since you bought lifetime gold

Good luck...Enjoy!
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Done. Just waiting for his follow up. Thanks!

Post: #11

Well fucking look at you, I remember that thread about you falling in love with your best friend, and us helping you out.

Now look at you, having a badass party with a female whose down for a threesome.

This has to be the best come back of this year by far.

I hope you'll give us a data sheet on the party, and how you got your girl into the threesome.

By the way, it's true, let the females do the work.

My first threesome was with a plate I was banging, we had a few drinks, I heard them talking about me, and I just got up from my bed and walked into the room and one thing led to another.

One of the best experiences of my life. The other threesome I had was with a POF match and a friend she brought along.

Sometimes it's luck, sometimes it's openness, somethings it's right place right time.

Hope to hear from it !

Post: #12

(03-08-2016 04:30 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Well fucking look at you, I remember that thread about you falling in love with your best friend, and us helping you out.

Now look at you, having a badass party with a female whose down for a threesome.

This has to be the best come back of this year by far.

I hope you'll give us a data sheet on the party, and how you got your girl into the threesome.

By the way, it's true, let the females do the work.

My first threesome was with a plate I was banging, we had a few drinks, I heard them talking about me, and I just got up from my bed and walked into the room and one thing led to another.

One of the best experiences of my life. The other threesome I had was with a POF match and a friend she brought along.

Sometimes it's luck, sometimes it's openness, somethings it's right place right time.

Hope to hear from it !

Thanks for the kind words. Means a lot. I definitely feel like I'm making progress. I'd still like to work on approaching more, so I can develop a better tolerance for AA, and keep growing in that way; unapologetically going after what I want and deserve.

I will absolutely let you guys know how things play out, and hopefully help other newbies learn from my story and challenges.

Cheers

Post: #13

Invite also a lot of chicks from Tinder or POF. Chat them up normally but briefly and just tell them your birthday is this weekend and it would be cool if they could drop by. Be firm about it being ok for them to bring a female friend if they want to "play it safe" but no men.

Say, if you open 40 chicks online, invite the hottest 20 so you know they wont be so far off their online pictures, oversell it as it being the party to be in and you being famous for you epic parties. Women being flaky and unwilling to invest, lets say that you have a 10% success rate. Out of those 20 that means that 2 end up actually showing up at your party.

2 measly 2, you might say, but keep in mind it costed you no effort save copy pasting some text messages and a few minutes of your day. And those 2 help you keep your female to male ratio at your party up, which in turn makes you look cooler and more desireable, and, it dilutes the chances of one of your cool friends swooping the one chick on that party that would have been down for a threesome.

Plus, for me is easier to land a threesome when the chicks are either "new" to each other (as in, no previous social connections), or when the chicks are long time friends or at least know each other well enought to be comfortable with each other. This technique improves your chances in the first case, and might even turn it into a foursome in the second.

Success, have fun and keep us posted.

Post: #14

^ if they're going to do the online thing to find a third it might be best to have his girl set up a profile (face pics, or not) devoted specifically to that purpose. I don't know if it's a great idea to invite 20 online hoes of questionable relationship status/sanity etc. to his party, frankly, even if only a few show up.

I hooked up with a cute bi girl over the summer who told me she had a few threesomes with couples and that's how she met them - basically the chick set up a profile for her and her guy and indicated that was what they were looking for, and she contacted them. Good-looking couples on sites like OKC will definitely get opened by good-looking single bi girls looking to be a third if the profile states that's what they're looking for.

Just set up the profile, use filtering to dump all messages from dudes and women outside the desired age range, and see who shows up.

Post: #15

(03-09-2016 08:04 AM)XPQ22 Wrote:  ^ if they're going to do the online thing to find a third it might be best to have his girl set up a profile (face pics, or not) devoted specifically to that purpose. I don't know if it's a great idea to invite 20 online hoes of questionable relationship status/sanity etc. to his party, frankly, even if only a few show up.

I hooked up with a cute bi girl over the summer who told me she had a few threesomes with couples and that's how she met them - basically the chick set up a profile for her and her guy and indicated that was what they were looking for, and she contacted them. Good-looking couples on sites like OKC will definitely get opened by good-looking single bi girls looking to be a third if the profile states that's what they're looking for.

Just set up the profile, use filtering to dump all messages from dudes and women outside the desired age range, and see who shows up.

Agreed. I don't think his girl will be fond of the idea that OP is looking for girls online without her knowing. Since they're getting pretty exclusive.

Post: #16

(03-07-2016 11:20 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 10:51 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  "The next morning my chick got up to get in the shower only to come out and find my morning wood balls deep in her friend again... she was none too pleased to say the least."

LOL. Then what happened? Was this effective dread game or did it backfire?

The whole possession/ jealousy aspect of polyamory (which is what a 3 way is) is an emotional minefield. Think about it. How would you feel if your girl started seeing/ fucking the other girl when you weren't around?

In this case the GF freaked out on me and her friend both. Even though a few hours earlier she'd been sucking my balls while I fucked her friend from behind, she felt betrayed. It caught me off guard but afterwards I understood the source of it. It blew over and we ended up laughing about later on but it was a learning experience for me.

Interesting, yes that makes sense. So the lesson to learn from this is keep them both included at all times. I'll remember that, if I end up in that situation I don't make the same mistake ..

Post: #17

I've definitely had a 3 some go sour when I continued plowing one while the other showered

Post: #18

(03-09-2016 08:04 AM)XPQ22 Wrote:  ^ if they're going to do the online thing to find a third it might be best to have his girl set up a profile (face pics, or not) devoted specifically to that purpose. I don't know if it's a great idea to invite 20 online hoes of questionable relationship status/sanity etc. to his party, frankly, even if only a few show up.

I hooked up with a cute bi girl over the summer who told me she had a few threesomes with couples and that's how she met them - basically the chick set up a profile for her and her guy and indicated that was what they were looking for, and she contacted them. Good-looking couples on sites like OKC will definitely get opened by good-looking single bi girls looking to be a third if the profile states that's what they're looking for.

Just set up the profile, use filtering to dump all messages from dudes and women outside the desired age range, and see who shows up.

^^^This if you're going after 3 ways online

Post: #19

(03-09-2016 08:27 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 11:20 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 10:51 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  "The next morning my chick got up to get in the shower only to come out and find my morning wood balls deep in her friend again... she was none too pleased to say the least."

LOL. Then what happened? Was this effective dread game or did it backfire?

The whole possession/ jealousy aspect of polyamory (which is what a 3 way is) is an emotional minefield. Think about it. How would you feel if your girl started seeing/ fucking the other girl when you weren't around?

In this case the GF freaked out on me and her friend both. Even though a few hours earlier she'd been sucking my balls while I fucked her friend from behind, she felt betrayed. It caught me off guard but afterwards I understood the source of it. It blew over and we ended up laughing about later on but it was a learning experience for me.

Interesting, yes that makes sense. So the lesson to learn from this is keep them both included at all times. I'll remember that, if I end up in that situation I don't make the same mistake ..

Actually its just the chick you have the "relationship" with that needs to be engaged. Some random chick or friend you both pulled for a 3 way isn't going to give a shit that you're boning your GF while she's in the shower. Make sense?

Post: #20

Maybe I'm too boring for most but why in hell is a girl open to 3 way your GF??

Post: #21

Well why not? Maybe he's not planning to be fruitful and multiply with this one. If you accept that any girlfriend is "yours" just because it is your "turn" then what does it matter if she a bi ho? I for one welcome the degradation and loose morals of the younger generation. Just wrap it up

Post: #22

She chooses, you approve.

If she needs a little encouragement at the party: "Look at that one. Should we keep her?"