Post: #26

Wish I titled this "what are the best hobbies, side jobs for easy lays" as this will be purely for women not for income. I know I can not be a pro athlete or a famous actor or a billionaire so I'm trying to figure out the next best thing. Teaching a class sounds nice I don't see how it can compare to bartending at a night club or DJing.

Post: #27

(03-07-2016 05:25 AM)Aristotle Wrote:  Do people still shop in bookstores? I can't remember the last time I was in a Barnes and Nobles. Amazon is better, faster, cheaper.

Don't apply male logic here. People still go in bookstores. Pick the biggest one in your city and visit it on a typical saturday. If you don't life in a small town it shall be filled up with women.

Post: #28

(03-04-2016 09:11 PM)Clockwerk Wrote:  Photographer. Or join a local photography/videography meetup group. If you don't have a dslr just borrow your uncles.

Yeah!
I've been thinking about this more and more and am saving up to buy a good Camera so i can tap into this.

In Asia, this really is a great way to meet women, I knew this photographer in SH who had mad pussy, simply because he knew so many girls and they would bring along their friends.

So it's definitely a great option as you're giving girls what they all want - to feel beautiful.

Post: #29

(03-04-2016 12:52 PM)riddlemethis Wrote:  Some gigs I found researching:

DJ
Bartending
Yoga instructor

Becoming a legit yoga instructor would take a long time but it would be worth it if you were really into fitness/yoga and doing it primarily for those reasons. Meeting people/girls would have to be secondary. I remember Elliott Hulse saying he would probably scale back strength training and get into a lot of yoga when he gets older.

Post: #30

(03-09-2016 07:59 PM)birthday cat Wrote:  

(03-04-2016 12:52 PM)riddlemethis Wrote:  Some gigs I found researching:

DJ
Bartending
Yoga instructor

Becoming a legit yoga instructor would take a long time but it would be worth it if you were really into fitness/yoga and doing it primarily for those reasons. Meeting people/girls would have to be secondary. I remember Elliott Hulse saying he would probably scale back strength training and get into a lot of yoga when he gets older.

I enjoy lifting free-weights for size so yoga might not be for me I've been thinking. I'd like to try MMA though maybe I can teach that if things go well.

Post: #31

Here in Austin, I've heard that pedicabbers bang a lot of cougars. Basically, they are people who ride a bike with two seats in the back for a rider. Obviously the men and women are in great shape, since they are riding a bike for hours.

Post: #32

If you live in a hipster area (usually inner-city), volunteer at an op shop (thrift store/charity shop if you're from the USA/UK).

You can thank me later.

Post: #33

(03-07-2016 01:07 PM)egionesco Wrote:  I teach a test-prep class for older college students, I'm not employed by a university and there are no rules, explicit or implicit, about what I can do.

At 35, I have absolutely no game-- a bit more now than I did a couple of months ago when I started my journey here-- and you would not believe the quality I pull. I'm an awesome, charismatic teacher with a great command of the room, and the classroom becomes the best exercise in social proof there is-- half of the girls in the class want me.

If you can do well on LSAT or GMAT it's not hard to get one of these jobs, and besides being famous I'm not sure there's an easier forum.

I administered tests for a few years at a community college. The sheer numbers of young women who I had to test was unreal. The job didn't pay well but it was fun to say the least.

Post: #34

The title of this thread should really say How can you best position yourself to meet more women?

I like the teacher route...you're contributing something to the community and building massive social proof
with students at the same time.

Part time Test prep and language classes seem best so you can avoid the "no dating" policy found
at most University/full time positions.

Although to be honest, there are plenty of skills you can teach, services you can offer
to meet a higher variety and sheer quantity of women.

You could even teach online classes...no need to limit yourself to just one city or community....

Post: #35

If you like FOB girls then joining English language conversation classes is a gold mine

Post: #36

(03-05-2016 06:27 AM)whiteknightrises Wrote:  Lived with a DJ once who spun at some of the hottest venues in NYC.

Dude's room was literally a revolving door.

Or when we had people over and he would say, "I'm a full-time DJ," you should have seen girls' eyes light up.

Anything in nightlife (girls who party and drink) is a good bet: DJ, bouncer, bartender but DJ is probably the best because of the status.

(03-07-2016 05:19 AM)Thoroughbred Wrote:  A note on DJing, it gets thrown around a lot in game spaces as a "get into and get girls" thing.

It's not something that can be taken on lightly.

It is a fiercely, fiercely, competitive industry. Lots of people, with lots of connections, who have been there a lot longer than you.

You really need to dedicate yourself to a scene and get ingratiated in it. Meet people, make connections across one of several of the possibly 100's of micro scenes across any cities night life and musical subcultures. From here you approach venues, try to get gigs, etc.

You are also going out 5 - 6 nights a week to get involved, and once you start playing your weekends are gone. I've know a few big players in the Melbourne scenes, and one or two broken sleeps from Thursday to Monday is not an uncommon workload.

It's become a lot easier these days, but there is still a skill to learn with it and equipment to buy. Someone who doesn't know what they are doing stands out like dogs balls. You have to know music, where to get it, how to play it and how to put it together.

I don't want to be a downer, but I see a lot of "start Djing and get girls" suggestions go down in posts and it can be potentially a lot of wasted time and money if you are someone coming at it from a "pick up chicks" angle. You will be crushed.

But if you have the passion, and are really keen and committed, there is a wealth of information on the internet of how to approach it properly and get started. In my opinion, it is definitely an "all in" thing and not a side hobby if you would like to do it anywhere besides your pad.

(03-07-2016 05:32 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 05:19 AM)Thoroughbred Wrote:  It's become a lot easier these days, but there is still a skill to learn with it and equipment to buy. Someone who doesn't know what they are doing stands out like dogs balls. You have to know music, where to get it, how to play it and how to put it together.

Yeah, about 100x easier than learning to play a musical instrument like cello (not that it gets pussy) or sing very well.

I vote to go for it.

Sorry for not really going into much detail...

Being a DJ (like full time and being able to make a living) is not easy at all. The roommate I mentioned has been DJing for over 15 years and he told me it took him years of working a shitty ass retail job and slowly building his DJ business to get to where he is now.

Also, yes. Your weekends (nights in general) are gone. He would be spinning from like 10-4 and that's not counting setting up, closing out, maybe some afterparty type thing. So basically standing around with no breaks from like 9pm-5am or so depending on the night. He would usually have a girl come out and chill with him during his sets though.

In terms of numbers, dude didn't have much "game" per se but was just a funny, chill guy. Most of his lays were from Tinder. But basically he would wake up whenever like 10AM or so, do some marketing/promo type shit, and just sit on Tinder and text girls to come over before working at night or something. He usually had at least 1 girl come over every day or every 2 days (some new, a lot of repeats).

He claims his other DJ friend, who seems a bit more active in terms of going for chicks, banged 4 girls off Tinder in one day. Honestly, I don't doubt it. If you've never been around someone with some sort of status (DJ, celebrity, whatever) you really got to see it to believe it. There was some article I remember reading (can't find it now) about some guy who hung out with his DJ friend once - it really is true. "Everyone wants to have sex with the DJ."

Post: #37

^

How did yout friend get girls hooked through Tinder? Combination of DJ'ing photos and a link to his Instagram & SoundCloud?

DJ'ing on the side, not for the money - start out even spinning for free on new act nights, at small local venues, throwing together a small Instagram & SoundCloud with some mixes with today's technology has to be the easiest way skill and time-wise to get micro-fame other than becoming a bartender or bouncer at a good venue which is the instant you get hired.

Also I never understood why artist types end up getting a shitty shit paying job if their craft like DJ'ing is done late at nights and on weekend anyways. Why not get a good paying 40 hour week job that doesn't have a lot of stress and put all your excess energy on your art? The hours work out perfectly. I get the be a bartender or barista thing because it is a more social atmosphere for an artist but why a shitty retail job.

I am going to say the best long term investment ones that have more healthy side benefits both mentally and physically:

Yoga Instructor
Tennis Pro
Dance Instructor

Can't think of ones better than those for getting in shape girls of all ages in your sphere of influence consistently.

Post: #38

tv/film/online-content/entertainment.

There are 2 options here:

1. The talent

You must possess a creative talent for one of the crafts in the industry. There is a pyramid of talent where some skills are rewarded with more access to pussy than others. For instance, Directing should give you some decent access but sound mixing doesn't. The industry is very transactional so the results will depend on your ability to use your talent to bang. Your primary targets will be actresses or models who pretend to act. On the plus side, there are far more actresses than actors however there is far more male talent in anything else. Literally every department except for costume/makeup is a sausage fest. On any given set there might be 2 girls in front of the camera talking while 18 guys behind the camera are working the equipment. This doesn't even include post which is even a bigger sausage fest. Have yet to meet a female visual effects artist or a girl that edits sound. Thank god for all the young dumb bitches that dream of making it big.

2. Produce/Finance

Here you must posses the ability to put productions together, finance productions, or both. If you take this route will generally be rewarded with more pussy than most of the talent(except for the very top). You will have much greater access to every women involved with the project, might even include the ones that auditioned but weren't cast. This requires expert knowledge of the industry and connections to people with money that have a lot of tax to pay.

Its a complicated industry, one where it is hard to make a living and takes a while to find your niche. But if you have time, meaning you are making money somewhere else where its not completely occupying your days, then i highly recommend giving it a shot. In one small film, you can meet 50 attractive women.

Post: #39

(03-11-2016 03:26 PM)Travesty Wrote:  ^

How did yout friend get girls hooked through Tinder? Combination of DJ'ing photos and a link to his Instagram & SoundCloud?

DJ'ing on the side, not for the money - start out even spinning for free on new act nights, at small local venues, throwing together a small Instagram & SoundCloud with some mixes with today's technology has to be the easiest way skill and time-wise to get micro-fame other than becoming a bartender or bouncer at a good venue which is the instant you get hired.

Also I never understood why artist types end up getting a shitty shit paying job if their craft like DJ'ing is done late at nights and on weekend anyways. Why not get a good paying 40 hour week job that doesn't have a lot of stress and put all your excess energy on your art? The hours work out perfectly. I get the be a bartender or barista thing because it is a more social atmosphere for an artist but why a shitty retail job.

I am going to say the best long term investment ones that have more healthy side benefits both mentally and physically:

Yoga Instructor
Tennis Pro
Dance Instructor

Can't think of ones better than those for getting in shape girls of all ages in your sphere of influence consistently.

IIRC he had pics of him DJing or at points in his profile it would say something like, funny hobby 1, something else, full-time DJ (like you know how people put traveling, pizza, Netflix in their profile - that kind of format)

Most of these creative types (at least that I know) didn't necessarily study anything in school (or even go to school) that would warrant them getting a decent paying, real job.

Also, maybe not necessarily retail, but service industry jobs like waiter, bartender - you'd be surprised at how much some people make. You can probably make more than any other entry-level job out of college minus really high-paying fields like investment banking or engineering. Knew a bartender who made $80k a year, with much of that being tax-free cash via tips. He told me it wasn't unheard of for DC bartenders to make low six figures (at the nice places of course).

There's also the added effect of being in the same "network." That is if you work at bars, clubs, restaurants, you're more likely to meet people who could help you get other jobs at those places (DJ, bartender, etc). Vs. say working at a desk job where people mostly just go home and "Netflix pizza" after work. Also, if you work at nice places, you can meet some cool and interesting people who may also be able to hook you up in one way or another. My bartender friend got his lawyer job through bartending (of course he was also going to law school at the time).

It really is a grind though based on what I've seen, like a socializing, networking, and selling yourself grind. Most PUA types probably wouldn't enjoy working as promoters or bartenders given that many seem to be of the introverted type. Personally, I would never do anything like that except maybe DJ because I like music.

Post: #40

Learn to play a musical instrument. Preferably guitar. Highly mobile.
Get an eternal bonus with women.
Just being a beginner and still being able to say I play guitar is a very good DHV. If you get better, perform, or just on any house party get the upper hand.
That worked great for me before I've learned about game, but is still useful.
Watching you play and sing gets them wet.
This also makes you become different in eyes of quality women.

Post: #41

(03-11-2016 11:24 PM)Vinny Wrote:  Learn to play a musical instrument. Preferably guitar. Highly mobile.
Get an eternal bonus with women.
Just being a beginner and still being able to say I play guitar is a very good DHV. If you get better, perform, or just on any house party get the upper hand.
That worked great for me before I've learned about game, but is still useful.
Watching you play and sing gets them wet.
This also makes you become different in eyes of quality women.

I know several friends who are extremely talented guitarists. These are guys who can nail the solo in Van Halen's Eruption to playing really weird slap-guitar styles like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWP7_THG3jc). Unfortunately, none of them get any ass from it... it's only the occasional guy (always another guitarist) who'll see them play and say, "Wow, you're really good, man."

What kind of girls is this working on for you? I'm a very mediocre guitarist but I have a decent voice and used to get panties moist with renditions of More than Words and other equally sappy ballads... but that shit was in high school.

Not trying to knock your input: if anything I'm genuinely curious to see if I can incorporate that demographic.

Post: #42

- Crossfit
- MMA / BJJ / Muy Thai kickboxing
- Yoga

Anything that requires physical activity and is cooed.

If you're young, get a job serving, bartending, or bouncing. A bunch of hot chicks work in the service industry.

Post: #43

(03-11-2016 03:26 PM)Travesty Wrote:  ^

How did yout friend get girls hooked through Tinder? Combination of DJ'ing photos and a link to his Instagram & SoundCloud?

DJ'ing on the side, not for the money - start out even spinning for free on new act nights, at small local venues, throwing together a small Instagram & SoundCloud with some mixes with today's technology has to be the easiest way skill and time-wise to get micro-fame other than becoming a bartender or bouncer at a good venue which is the instant you get hired.

Also I never understood why artist types end up getting a shitty shit paying job if their craft like DJ'ing is done late at nights and on weekend anyways. Why not get a good paying 40 hour week job that doesn't have a lot of stress and put all your excess energy on your art? The hours work out perfectly. I get the be a bartender or barista thing because it is a more social atmosphere for an artist but why a shitty retail job.

I am going to say the best long term investment ones that have more healthy side benefits both mentally and physically:

Yoga Instructor
Tennis Pro
Dance Instructor

Can't think of ones better than those for getting in shape girls of all ages in your sphere of influence consistently.

Mostly because they're not capable.

Post: #44

When I was younger, I used to volunteer (eventually turned to work), at Hostels. I'd work two nights a week (fri/sat), and lead pub-crawls for everyone staying at the Hostel. It was fun, met awesome people and a lot of foreign girls - it almost felt like cheating, but I really enjoyed it. Might be something to consider. It was also great for practicing any languages I was learning at the time.

Post: #45

So glad I found this forum this is great info. got a job as a busser at a casino/hotel since they said their very open to thier employees moving up and I know the bartenders there make good money. I'm low on cash atm since i'm in school I'll probably give the DJ thing a try once I'm out.

(03-11-2016 03:40 PM)8ball Wrote:  tv/film/online-content/entertainment.

There are 2 options here:

2. Produce/Finance

Here you must posses the ability to put productions together, finance productions, or both. If you take this route will generally be rewarded with more pussy than most of the talent(except for the very top). You will have much greater access to every women involved with the project, might even include the ones that auditioned but weren't cast. This requires expert knowledge of the industry and connections to people with money that have a lot of tax to pay.

Its a complicated industry, one where it is hard to make a living and takes a while to find your niche. But if you have time, meaning you are making money somewhere else where its not completely occupying your days, then i highly recommend giving it a shot. In one small film, you can meet 50 attractive women.

I think I'll make this my long term goal, I have in interest in businesses even though I'm going for a BSN right now. I hear nurses in CA make great money I might move out there.

Post: #46

I don't think you need a "side job" to meet women, in fact I've always heard that banging girls who are coworkers of yours is a bad idea (but that's more if it's something you want as a long term career, versus just some part-time gig).

I'd honestly just recommend living in a big city, especially a college town, and hang out at local watering holes or nightclubs (I live in a smaller-ish town and I'm lucky to get laid at all since even the bars and clubs have very slim pickings here; some nights I have been lucky to even run into any attractive girls who weren't already there with a boyfriend). But if you just want to score your best bet is to have friends who invite you to parties, these by far have been the easiest 'lays' for me, and practically no game was even required.

If there are colleges in your area I've also heard they are great places to meet girls as well even if you're not a student; maybe libraries, online dating sites, etc. Hobbies (like Tae Kwon Do) can really be a hit-or-miss because there are only a limited number of people you'll be stuck with there. (Ultimately if you learn some game the sky is the limit though and you can meet women at the grocery store or anywhere you meet them, ex. the other day I got a number from a hairstylist I'd just met, and a cashier at a local dollar store).

But honestly I don't know if you should plan your whole career over what job you think will get you laid; I'd recommend finding a job you actually enjoy and that pays enough for you to have a comfortable lifestyle, and then meet girls in your spare time. Hell, if you're a computer programmer who makes $80,000 a year, you'll have plenty of cash and spare time to go out and meet women, even if you only work with geeky guys at the office.

Post: #47

The caveat being that this is only a viable part-time gig and not really worth deferring more lucrative offers, I would suggest a client-facing position at a store in the busiest part of your city.

A friend of mine ran a store in the busiest part of the city's CBD straight out of high school (the store was owned by his dad). I would spend quite a few of my Saturdays and holidays chilling with him and assisting customers (for free, mind you).

Easiest place to game by far. In hindsight, I didn't really game that much as opposed to just being boyishly handsome and extroverted (sadly my looks have since faded).

The formula is simple:

Client-facing position + busy location+ be handsome/have game = profit.

Post: #48

For younger guys promotional modeling. This is basically passing out redbulls at the train station, doing a cigarette promo at a club, etc, etc, etc. More geared towards women but many of these jobs want guys and girls. Pretty laid back job, typicaly pays $20 to $50 an hour, get to work with a lot of attractive girls etc.

Post: #49

(03-05-2016 05:29 AM)Lime Wrote:  Drama/acting/writing. Arts generally have the most 'sexually liberated' girls.

This post was clearly written before #MeToo.

Post: #50

If you're funny, try standup comedy. There's a comedy festival on in my town right now; I've seen comedians, even some pretty terrible ones, pulling hot girls after their gigs.