Post: #226

Say what you want about Farage, but he's the vehicle for the UK to get out of the EU.

After that who gives a damn who replaces him, but if the man on the street feels a bit safer with a bunch of touchy feely guys at the helm of Brexit then so be it.

Replace him with an anti-immigration guy after a win in the referendum, because the chances of Brexit winning on a white-supremacist ticket are somewhere south of zero percent.

Post: #227

(06-11-2016 10:26 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Say what you want about Farage, but he's the vehicle for the UK to get out of the EU.

After that who gives a damn who replaces him, but if the man on the street feels a bit safer with a bunch of touchy feely guys at the helm of Brexit then so be it.

Replace him with an anti-immigration guy after a win in the referendum, because the chances of Brexit winning on a white-supremacist ticket are somewhere south of zero percent.

Equating immigration restriction with white supremacy is something straight out of the SJW playbook. It doesn't seem like you're arguing in good faith.

Post: #228

(06-11-2016 08:00 AM)Alebaster Wrote:  Here,found the video I mentioned above in my post (can't edit it anymore) where Farage speaks of his love to "Commonwealth" (aka Pakistani,Indian and Nigerian migrants) and notes that leaving the EU will give "more opportunities for black people to immigrate to Britain"

from 13:45

If you think that is anti-white sentiment then you are only seeing what you want to see.

Majority of Britain's black contingent are descendants of West Indian immigration, and those immigrants came to the UK wanting to be British citizens, and they assimilated, along with their contemporary Asian immigrants who have also assimilated. They all felt like they were de facto British citizens before they arrived.

Your posts makes me think you are not an inhabitant of the British Isles, because I feel that if you were, you would appreciate the nuance I am explaining.

Farage is merely stating that a reduction of numbers in to the UK would benefit all of the lower income earners, many of whom are non-white.

Basic economics: increased labour supply(population increase) leads to depressed wages, supply exceeds demand lowers price.

Restricted migration will lead to better wages for workers and less depression of wages.

Post: #229

They tried to keep these plans secret until after the Brexit vote.

Quote:Leaked UK plan to open doors for 1m Turks

Proposal under wraps until after EU vote

British diplomats secretly discussed granting visa-free travel to the UK for more than 1m Turks, according to leaked diplomatic cables seen by The Sunday Times.

The cache of five documents also suggests that EU officials are attempting to keep any visa deal with Turkey under wraps until after the referendum on June 23.

According to the telegrams, senior diplomats have advised ministers that the proposed EU deal with Turkey on visa-free travel within the Schengen area could lead the UK to consider extending the same privilege to up to 1.5m “special passport holders” from Turkey.

“Visa travel [to the UK]

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/l...-n085h225w

Post: #230

(06-11-2016 11:17 AM)Lizard King Wrote:  

(06-11-2016 08:00 AM)Alebaster Wrote:  Here,found the video I mentioned above in my post (can't edit it anymore) where Farage speaks of his love to "Commonwealth" (aka Pakistani,Indian and Nigerian migrants) and notes that leaving the EU will give "more opportunities for black people to immigrate to Britain"

from 13:45

If you think that is anti-white sentiment then you are only seeing what you want to see.

Majority of Britain's black contingent are descendants of West Indian immigration, and those immigrants came to the UK wanting to be British citizens, and they assimilated, along with their contemporary Asian immigrants who have also assimilated. They all felt like they were de facto British citizens before they arrived.

Your posts makes me think you are not an inhabitant of the British Isles, because I feel that if you were, you would appreciate the nuance I am explaining.

Farage is merely stating that a reduction of numbers in to the UK would benefit all of the lower income earners, many of whom are non-white.

Basic economics: increased labour supply(population increase) leads to depressed wages, supply exceeds demand lowers price.

Restricted migration will lead to better wages for workers and less depression of wages.

Exactly this. These are the old school black boys you still find all over London. I think if any kind of survey were done on it, you would find that these guys tend to live in whiter working class areas for the most part, precisely for the reason you say - these guys wanted to be British, saw themselves as British, and came here to be part of our way of life. There was already a lot in common between us as peoples - strong family units, religion etc.

For this type of black guy, the vast wave of immigration has introduced a culture that is as alien and unwelcome to them as it is to the indigenous whites. My first boxing coach was such a guy, as were many of the guys I trained with. They were profoundly affected by the influx of incompatible cultures with no desire to integrate, and they have been every bit as disenfranchised by it as we have. I love these guys and think of them very much as being part of our people.

Also, it is entirely right that we accord preferential treatment to the Commonwealth, including our duskier brethren. The Indians, for example, have been inextricably linked with us for centuries. Since the decline of the Mughals and the expansion of the East India Company after the mid 1700s our destinies have been intertwined. We have fought together, married amongst each other, got rich together, and contributed to each other's civilization. They are certainly more 'our people' than the Germans, Turks, Balkan states, Southern Europeans, etc etc.

Again, it is the socialist utopia of Europe that really severs the ties of brotherhood that have bound us to our friends in the east for centuries.

Post: #231

So called CZexit is discussed in The Czech Republic lately and may follow if Brexit really happens.
Guess why?
EU to tighten guns rules despite concern it will restrict hunters, collectors

Czech Republic against strengthening gun control in EU

But what can we do if this directive is approved?
Czech Republic can refuse to implement new gun control act, but we will pay a lot of fines for this anually. EU will push and push and push until our politicans break and approve it.
We are f*cked.
Too bad Ceska Zbrojovka, manufacturer of many legendary guns (VZ-58, CZ-75) is 20 miles from my hometown
   
Flyer says: "This is the way how EU wants to fight terrorism. By taking guns from decent citizens"

Post: #232

Look at the portrayal of the gun control advocate.

Post: #233

Ben Garrison knocks it out of the park.

Post: #234

(06-11-2016 11:03 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  ...
Equating immigration restriction with white supremacy is something straight out of the SJW playbook. It doesn't seem like you're arguing in good faith.

What can I say. I start drawing conclusions when I see a new guy named "alebaster" complaining about Indians and Pakis, using terms like "hate for europeans" and "eskimo is eskimo" when referring to a guy who, from my admittedly limited exposure, seems to hate nothing other than the EU. Indians are a serious problem in the UK then? I'd always heard they were fairly quiet and productive.

As for your assertion that Farage is taking up some sort of limited political real estate that a more suitable candidate might otherwise fill, that's just bizarre. See, I can name several prominent politicians that have carved out a niche in my nation on what would generally be seen as difficult political platforms. That's what you do. That's how it's done. You toss your hat in the ring, get on your soap box and ask people to vote for you. The notion that a suitable candidate is trapped in Farage's shadow is just ridiculous.

Post: #235

ZeroHedge just posted this:

Quote:With polls indicating "Leave" leading in the EU Referendum, one well-known mainstream media personality has come out against the establishment. As The Telegraph's Ambrose Evans-Pritchard explains "at its heart, the Brexit vote is about the supremacy of Parliament. All else is noise," adding "that is why I am voting to leave the EU."



...

It's a long post, for the entire article please click on the link.

Post: #236

It appears that it's the immigration issue that's proving to be the key issue in swaying the British voters to vote yes. This puts the ruling elitists and the mass media in a tight spot because they realize now that in order to prevent the Brexit, they'll have to announce hard, firm, curbs on immigration and they're not willing to do that.

Watch them pull out all the stops these last 10 days, accusing the Brexiters of facism, racism, homophobia, Nazism, anti-Semitism, xenophobia, etc. Newspaper editorials will start mentioning things like "mass starvation" and "a permanent return to poverty for the vast majority of the British people." It's going to be clearly ridiculous.

Post: #237

The Sun backs the leave campaign

   

Post: #238

The UK will vote to leave the EU.

I have no reason other than a gut feeling. The ruling elite are desperate and all of the notices sent via the mail and ads make them seem desperate. If it wasn't going to happen they wouldn't have cared so much.

Post: #239

(06-13-2016 03:41 PM)C-Note Wrote:  Watch them pull out all the stops these last 10 days, accusing the Brexiters of facism, racism, homophobia, Nazism, anti-Semitism, xenophobia, etc. Newspaper editorials will start mentioning things like "mass starvation" and "a permanent return to poverty for the vast majority of the British people." It's going to be clearly ridiculous.

The media has cried wolf so many times that their rhetoric has become useless.

I'm glad to see the British people waking up and (hopefully) taking their country back from the Euro hacks.

Post: #240

To our British members (and non British members for the matter) when the election result comes out and assuming it is desired how will you be celebrating?

Me personally have just bought myself a cuban cigar and a lapel pin bearing the British flag ready for when I hit the town drinking the finest Chase vodka. We will make it Great Britain again. I may try and get my hand on a British flag pocket square if I can find one before now and Friday 24th.

Post: #241

Yes it's short, but several more to come from Black Pigeon.

Post: #242

(06-14-2016 02:58 PM)Ethan Hunt Wrote:  To our British members (and non British members for the matter) when the election result comes out and assuming it is desired how will you be celebrating?

Me personally have just bought myself a cuban cigar and a lapel pin bearing the British flag ready for when I hit the town drinking the finest Chase vodka. We will make it Great Britain again. I may try and get my hand on a British flag pocket square if I can find one before now and Friday 24th.

It's US Amazon, but:

https://www.amazon.com/Pocket-Square-Han...B003VN08BO

Post: #243

Not sure how I feel about The Sun backing the leave campaign, Rupert Murdoch has always worked hand in hand with Cameron who backs the remain side so it makes me wonder what exactly is going on here.

When Brexit wins (which is likely looking at the forecast) it will simply be the first step in restoring the country to former glory. What comes after is making sure the decision to leave actually goes through. This means we aren't made to vote again under different conditions, our vote is recognized and respected by EU parliament and we are in fact allowed to leave.

Every bone in my body is telling me even with a win, somehow, the vote will be reversed or ignored, some way or another.

Post: #244

(06-14-2016 03:14 PM)NewMeta Wrote:  Not sure how I feel about The Sun backing the leave campaign, Rupert Murdoch has always worked hand in hand with Cameron who backs the remain side so it makes me wonder what exactly is going on here.

When Brexit wins (which is likely looking at the forecast) it will simply be the first step in restoring the country to former glory. What comes after is making sure the decision to leave actually goes through. This means we aren't made to vote again under different conditions, our vote is recognized and respected by EU parliament and we are in fact allowed to leave.

Every bone in my body is telling me even with a win, somehow, the vote will be reversed or ignored, some way or another.

That's what happened in Greece when the people voted to leave the Eurozone(Euro currency).

Their politicians were coerced by the EU and they betrayed their people.

Post: #245

(06-14-2016 03:24 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 03:14 PM)NewMeta Wrote:  Not sure how I feel about The Sun backing the leave campaign, Rupert Murdoch has always worked hand in hand with Cameron who backs the remain side so it makes me wonder what exactly is going on here.

When Brexit wins (which is likely looking at the forecast) it will simply be the first step in restoring the country to former glory. What comes after is making sure the decision to leave actually goes through. This means we aren't made to vote again under different conditions, our vote is recognized and respected by EU parliament and we are in fact allowed to leave.

Every bone in my body is telling me even with a win, somehow, the vote will be reversed or ignored, some way or another.

That's what happened in Greece when the people voted to leave the Eurozone(Euro currency).

Their politicians were coerced by the EU and they betrayed their people.

The EU tends to not take no for an answer.



The UK electorate has been deliberately kept well away from treaty referenda for decades. Cameron didn't make good his referendum promise during the last parliament because he had Clegg to conveniently block referendum plans. He probably thought that the Tories would have relied on the Liberal Democrats to govern again. Governing alone this time, he had no excuse but to make good his promise or risk his party being split in two.

If Brexit wins, it looks like it will be because Labour's traditional white working class vote stays at home. This is precisely the demographic which has paid the most for any form of globalism - the EU included.


Look at the Dutch and Greek NO votes above. There is no way that Brexit is going to get to the 60% range. The Commissars in Brussels know very well if the UK goes, the Dutch and Greeks will be the next to go, and France will not want to remain to be shackled with Merkel's Germany given that the FN is set to reach the final round of the presidential elections.

Post: #246

Rupert Murdoch tries to panic the world into forcing Britain to stay:

http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/w...080bbfc691

Quote:GLOBAL stock markets have plunged amid fears the UK could vote to leave the European Union in a crucial referendum after polls showed the “Brexit” camp surging ahead.
On Tuesday a poll by YouGov and UK Newspaper The Times showed the leave camp held 46 per cent of the vote compared to 39 per cent of the UK who wanted to remain in the EU.
It's a three point swing from the previous week and is the strongest indicator yet the country will vote to split ways with the 27 other members of the bloc on June 23. Eleven per cent of voters remain undecided.
The numbers indicate a late surge for Vote Leave led by former London mayor Boris Johnson and Justice Secretary Micheal Gove which has been trailing in the polls for much of the campaign.
The news came on the same day as UK tabloid The Sun became the first major daily to declare support for a Brexit with a front-page editorial urging readers to “BeLeave in Britain”.
“We must set ourselves free from dictatorial Brussels,” the paper said in a move that was no surprise to readers. “It is our last chance. Because, be in no doubt, our future looks far bleaker if we stay in.”
The once remote prospect that Britain might actually leave the EU has sparked a wave of uncertainty on financial markets around the world and triggered a huge sell off of shares.
On Tuesday, the Australian dollar dropped to 73 cents against the US dollar and the sharemarket fell to a seven week-low with $27 billion wiped from its value.
The UK pound is also hovering at two-month lows against the US dollar with $140 billion wiped off the UK FTSE index over three days.

Briefing.com’s Patrick O’Hare said “risk aversion is the order of the day” as the US was expected to hold off raising interest rates until the UK decision late next week.

Having said that, at least they made the article interesting:

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #247

Has anyone received his polling card yet. The vote is next week and normally I get mine much sooner than this.

I am so motivated to secede from the EU that I am getting twitchy that known-Brexiters will bear the brunt of an 'administrative error'.

Post: #248

(06-15-2016 12:35 AM)N°6 Wrote:  Has anyone received his polling card yet. The vote is next week and normally I get mine much sooner than this.

I am so motivated to secede from the EU that I am getting twitchy that known-Brexiters will bear the brunt of an 'administrative error'.

Mine arrived weeks ago.

Contact your local council's electoral registration office to confirm your registration and polling office - more info here:
http://www.aboutmyvote.co.uk/

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold

Post: #249

If the elites ignore the will of the masses then it's still a win, albeit in another form.

As I've stated before, democracy is what keeps the masses civil. If the elites prove to the voter that his vote is irrelevant then he might start thinking of other ways to make his political will manifest.

Post: #250

(06-15-2016 12:08 AM)N°6 Wrote:  The EU tends to not take no for an answer.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This.

The futility in this whole referendum endeavor is right there in 1 picture. Even people going to vote "leave" are just pawns in this stupid pseudo democratic process.
If the government and the ruling class in the UK really wanted to leave the EU they would have already done it ages ago with 1 or 2 simple acts of parliament.
Even if the "leave" camp wins by 65% or more....the ruling class will find a way to stay in the EU.

The EU is the most passive aggressive bully the European continent has ever had.
This voting nonsense is like trying to talk your way out of a bully stealing your lunch money.
Bullies (even passive aggressive ones) only understand one language.
Only a determined show of strong willed force will make this bully go away.
But people need to be a lot more pissed off and motivated first, for that to even happen.