Post: #126

How does everyone think it will be stopped? Will they rig the vote, do a second referendum or just go against the will of the people?

Two of the most lefty pricks I know are voting to leave and really want to leave. Even though they agree immigration is ruining the country, they still argue with me emotionally every chance they get. And they still get offended when I say 'we should close the borders' so I tried to make it less offensive and more English sounding 'lift up the drawbridge on the moat'. It didn't work.

Post: #127

Its very disappointing to see the lack of enthusiasm and down right pessimism in this thread. Compare this to the donald trump thread. The odds against the Donald were far greater and yet people were optimistic from the get go and growing every since.
You guys are on the other hand are acting like you are in a prison thats lcoated inside a moving ship in the pacific ocean and have given up looking for an escape plan and just waiting for stalone to show up.

Post: #128

(05-19-2016 05:17 PM)8ball Wrote:  Its very disappointing to see the lack of enthusiasm and down right pessimism in this thread. Compare this to the donald trump thread. The odds against the Donald were far greater and yet people were optimistic from the get go and growing every since.
You guys are on the other hand are acting like you are in a prison thats lcoated inside a moving ship in the pacific ocean and have given up looking for an escape plan and just waiting for stalone to show up.

LOL, if you think this thread is depressing, try living here and talking to people about it. You're right we are a bit depressed about it. Most here know things will have to get worse before they get better, unless as you say, a saviour or a 'Stallone', hah, shows up.

However you're wrong with that statement. The odds were never as bad against him. He's a famous celebrity and running as a Republican in your two party system. We don't have anyone near as brave, media savvy, succesful, clever, rich, confident and nationalist running in one of the two main parties here.

It's been spectacular to watch and against the odds, but not more against the odds than a revolution over here.

Post: #129

You guys have no idea at how bad it will get if the EU isn't ended soon. I have nothing against immigrants, but they are being used as pawns for the globalists. The reality is how do you destroy a first world country and labor market? You bring in lots and lots of immigrants who are used to third world slave-like conditions and put them in the same labor market. I think this is in a more forward stage in the United States than the EU. The globalists are using immigrants to push their NWO agenda and care nothing about the immigrants. These are the same globalists who have kids working in chains in the third world.

Post: #130

(05-19-2016 01:41 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 06:07 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

(05-15-2016 06:00 AM)N°6 Wrote:  I consider myself more European than British because most things that I hold dear such as the Christian-Gothic-Greco-Roman civilisation are not British but European.

What kind of a homo considers himself more European than British? "European" is a very broad range of cultures and nationalities so that doesn't even make sense as a way to define yourself.

It doesn't matter which you prefer. Identifying as another nationality, because you prefer their contributions to culture than your own is a very xenophilic lefty, cucky thing to do.

At least your voting the right way though! Cheers.

Maybe he means: an Englishman in Europe, geographically not politically?

I thought that I made that clear when I described the EU as not only unEuropean but anti-European.

Post: #131

(05-21-2016 03:58 AM)MikeMcLaren Wrote:  You guys have no idea at how bad it will get if the EU isn't ended soon. I have nothing against immigrants, but they are being used as pawns for the globalists. The reality is how do you destroy a first world country and labor market? You bring in lots and lots of immigrants who are used to third world slave-like conditions and put them in the same labor market. I think this is in a more forward stage in the United States than the EU. The globalists are using immigrants to push their NWO agenda and care nothing about the immigrants. These are the same globalists who have kids working in chains in the third world.

One thing the New Left Establishment will never mention is Marx-Engel's Reserve Army of Labour theory.

That the masculine trade unions have been replaced by feminised victim solidarity with new and invented identity groups at a time when immigration is gushing into the West is no coincidence. That working men still vote Labour and Democrat in the UK and US is amazing given that these parties are now the parties of the billionaire celebrity, the usurer, women and victim identity groups.

Quote:"Big industry constantly requires a reserve army of unemployed workers for times of overproduction. The main purpose of the bourgeois in relation to the worker is, of course, to have the commodity labour as cheaply as possible, which is only possible when the supply of this commodity is as large as possible in relation to the demand for it, i.e., when the overpopulation is the greatest. Overpopulation is therefore in the interest of the bourgeoisie, and it gives the workers good advice which it knows to be impossible to carry out. Since capital only increases when it employs workers, the increase of capital involves an increase of the proletariat, and, as we have seen, according to the nature of the relation of capital and labour, the increase of the proletariat must proceed relatively even faster. The... theory... which is also expressed as a law of nature, that population grows faster than the means of subsistence, is the more welcome to the bourgeois as it silences his conscience, makes hard-heartedness into a moral duty and the consequences of society into the consequences of nature, and finally gives him the opportunity to watch the destruction of the proletariat by starvation as calmly as any other natural event without bestirring himself, and, on the other hand, to regard the misery of the proletariat as its own fault and to punish it. To be sure, the proletarian can restrain his natural instinct by reason, and so, by moral supervision, halt the law of nature in its injurious course of development." - Karl Marx, Wages, December 1847[6]

This is what the usurer and the financial-democratic liar mean when they hiss that immigration is necessary to sustain 'growth'. Cheap labour is a commodity that increases capital and in debt based societies, women, immigrants and newly invented victim groups need to be thrown into the labour market to reduce wages and to service national debts.

When Trotsky (the father of the Neo-cons and SJWs) complained that marriage for women was 'galley slavery', behind him was the banker who saw wive's labour as untaxed labour which could not only be taxed by sending them to work outside the home but also could be used to reduce married men's wages.

Post: #132

(05-19-2016 05:17 PM)8ball Wrote:  Its very disappointing to see the lack of enthusiasm and down right pessimism in this thread. Compare this to the donald trump thread. The odds against the Donald were far greater and yet people were optimistic from the get go and growing every since.
You guys are on the other hand are acting like you are in a prison thats lcoated inside a moving ship in the pacific ocean and have given up looking for an escape plan and just waiting for stalone to show up.

Please inform me how an Out campaign can survive an onslaught of propaganda which includes the Prime Minister, most of the cabinet, a lot of bankers, big businessmen and foreign investors?

They spent close to 10 million on Pro EU propaganda. This country has a serious socialist problem who never want the good times to end and funnily enough this slavery to the EU superstate will do exactly that, end it.

All these parasites want is free shit, free movement and the big boys want to exploit cheap labour, cheap borders and large tax bases.

In the Trump thread the states which went for socialist policies had a large number of liberals and immigrants. California being one of those states. The UK is like California and the voting system reflects that.

All you need is immigrant communities voting in the party who wants to give them stuff for free and not tell them otherwise and you have lost.

Post: #133

^ It's important to note that this kind of demoralization is exactly what they want. Voting in the referendum isn't compulsory. They only need you guys to stay home. Trump is prevailing precisely because he's painting himself as a rallying point against the ruling class, and succeeding in the face of total establishment resistance -- or even partly because of it.

The same applies here. This "give up" attitude is precisely how they keep you oppressed. 5% of the population cannot keep 95% under their whip if they decide to resist.

Post: #134

I agree but it's understandable given the current demographics.

I hope the Brits saw through Obama's recent call to stay in.

Post: #135

I watched a programme recently that implied a low percentage turn out would benefit the leave group.

Personaly I'm hoping that's true, as it doesn't seem to be recieving the attention it deserves (to my perception), and a low turn out would apparently benefit leave?

Post: #136

(05-21-2016 12:02 PM)FortyAndFantastic Wrote:  I watched a programme recently that implied a low percentage turn out would benefit the leave group.

Personaly I'm hoping that's true, as it doesn't seem to be recieving the attention it deserves (to my perception), and a low turn out would apparently benefit leave?

I'm doubtful about that too.

The left and liberal of the population are politically active. They enjoy virtue signalling with their Labour and Green party signs that proliferate a lot of middle class areas.

The nationalists and right-leaning of the population are not motivated enough, or have become sedated by propaganda that tells them UKIP are racist bigots.

Farage and the other figures behind the leave campaign need to become high energy.

Post: #137

I'm convinced that Boris is a plant by the 'In' powers that be. He's well known enough to lead the campaign and articulate enough to letthe 'In' group have it, but he's blustering and fannying about. He was at a rally banging on about how much the bananas curve as a reason to leave the EU when there are lots of more pressing and convincing reasons. He sounded like he wasn't taking himself seriously and almost laughing at himself. I think the goal is to look like they tried, but then fail by design. I just don't buy it.

Post: #138

(05-21-2016 11:15 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  ^ It's important to note that this kind of demoralization is exactly what they want. Voting in the referendum isn't compulsory. They only need you guys to stay home. Trump is prevailing precisely because he's painting himself as a rallying point against the ruling class, and succeeding in the face of total establishment resistance -- or even partly because of it.

The same applies here. This "give up" attitude is precisely how they keep you oppressed. 5% of the population cannot keep 95% under their whip if they decide to resist.

I'm not demoralised, I'm a realist. I will be voting as I have gone out of my way to ensure I can vote.

However my cynicism and the writing on the wall tells me the UK has not got the core strength required to shrug these parasites off.

We have no Trump, we have no backbone that will push the invaders off a cliff. We built castles and docks to stop our European enemies from invading our shores over 1000 years and we then within the last 30-40 years invite millions from the third world to our shores.

I like Indians, they're funny and reliable, I don't mind Eastern Europeans (except the psychos) because they're like us and we have common interests.

People are more upset about Eastern Europeans for some unknown reason. Holy shit these morons think a Polish or Czech shop selling non-regular food and drinks is an insult to their existence. Some young Polish girl killed herself for being a victim of racial bullying. What the fuck is this?

I love the look of EE women, I like their accents and the intelligence it takes to step out into another country, learn the lingo and step above perceived hatred. The men are hard workers and fucking nuts when drinking and they stood by our side in WWI and WWII.

I can say the same for Indians but their women are a lot to be desired if I'm honest.

The elites of the UK have no common interest with the man in the street except to manipulate him to spend more or get angry at something.

I have nothing in common with immigrants from Africa or the Middle East and neither does Western Christian values. Yet we invite them en-mass to our lands and let them propagate uncontrollably through our towns and cities.

The end result speaks for itself.

Here is one such result of our beloved immigration and "diverse communities".

'Shocking' Lack Of Diversity In Police Ranks

Quote:Figures out today which show black and ethnic minority officers are under-represented across all ranks are branded "unacceptable"

Read that out-loud to yourself. As much of a click-bait headline it looks, how racist is that headline? How would you as a white male police officer feel to know no matter how good of an officer you may be, you're worth shit to communities because YOU are the outsider.

As a white man in a land deemed to be ethnically white based on our history you are an unacceptable asset to the communities if they resemble parts of Africa and the ME.

Now do Chinese and Jewish communities scream loud and proud about wanting their own to police them? Do they fuck. They hire security from a dependable firm who will protect them.

This is what I am getting at. From an outsider it reeks of little Englander syndrome but it isn't. I love England but it is dying and like a dependable dog which has lived too long you need to take it out back and shoot it.

This country thinks it is British but the generations that made it Britain have gone and in their place are a people who care more for their own immediate feelings and gains.

More aggressive cultures are taking this country for their own. Good luck to them.

Post: #139

What Foolsgo1d writes resonates with me.

I have very little faith with the British electorate's ability to withstand what its betters in the media, plutocratic ranks and the international establishment tell it what is the respectable action to take and how to vote.

My mind has been made up for years regarding the EU but if I was undecided, I doubt that the cuckservative's Brexit campaign would have convinced me to vote to leave. It is clear that its funds are far lower than the Remain campaigns.

Merkel has already given Turkey visa-free travel into the EU. The Ottoman sultan refuses to allow highly skilled Syrians into the EU so he just wants to offload low value Turks and Syrians into Europe. TURKEY WILL JOIN THE EU. Cameron has already promised Turkey that he'd help it gain membership. Yet Brexit is going on about the glories of Free Trade.

Post: #140

https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/

Remain 47% - Brexit 40%

The EU was supposed to form a géo-political bloc to counter the US and Russia but Merkel has reduced it to a tributary state of Turkey.

It was supposed to be a social-democracy but several states have appointed 'leaders' from Goldman-Sachs.

The Euro was supposed to make things less expensive and more efficient but prices grew overnight since the Euro was adopted and it has caused the fiscal failure of most of Europe.

Youth unemployment is endemic and has emptied much of southern Europe of its young people. Fertility rates have collapsed.

Social welfare is collapsing.

There is no will to defend its border from the invasion from the Third World. This summer will see an even greater wave as the weakness of Europe is there for all to see now. If the vanguard was well accommodated, then so will the main wave.

The EU ignores inconvenient referenda results.

The economic union has not protected European industry against the coolie labour of the Orient.


Has there been any success apart from the ending of roaming charges on mobile telephones?

Despite all these fundamental and disastrous failures which the British public knows about, it will return to its docile nature and vote according to what the media says it should do.

Post: #141

(05-22-2016 01:04 AM)N°6 Wrote:  https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/

Look at how contrived the calculation is:

   


How objective were the poll sources? Some of the poll sources seem a little questionable:

Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research (based in Washington D.C) http://www.gqrr.com
Research, polling, and strategic consulting firm working with businesses, issue groups, and political campaigns around the world.

Looks like a move by finance communities to prop up the pound in the short term and demoralise the Brexit campaign:

   

Post: #142

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/exclusive-...s-cm624448


Online polls are saying Brexit in lead

Post: #143

(05-19-2016 04:51 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  How does everyone think it will be stopped? Will they rig the vote, do a second referendum or just go against the will of the people?

Most likely, we'll be seeing a repeat of the Lisbon Treaty-thing in Ireland. Re-votes until they "get it right".

Post: #144

^ I don't think this will be necessary - fear is perhaps the most powerful motivator, and the Remain campaign is being extremely effective with its scaremongering. This, coupled with the fact that people tend to support the status quo, as understandably they do not have enough time to avail themselves fully of the facts, means that unless they are directly impacted by the issue in question, they tend not to rock the boat. Remain started with a healthy bias in the voting population, and will, I suspect, hold onto that advantage when it comes time to vote.

Post: #145

I see loads of Leave signs everywhere, I've not seen one sign to stay. Most people don't watch much TV or read much, they will be influenced more by the people they talk to. I don't think we will vote to remain.

Post: #146

The people who are screaming doom and gloom are the same people who were saying we should have stocked up on anti-flu vaccines to counter super flu's. They were also predicting the H1N1 eradicating millions, SARS virus doing the same and oh yeah, Ebola coming into Europe and wiping out many people.

These people are not to be believed.

Post: #147

Got my poling card through the post last week. Most men i've spoken to about EU said they are voting out. Overheard the women table talking about it for about 10 minutes. None reached a conclusion on how they'd vote. Instead the babbled about how other people might feel.

Post: #148

(05-23-2016 08:03 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  They were also predicting the H1N1 eradicating millions

Give me time, homeslice.

Post: #149

(05-23-2016 08:03 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  The people who are screaming doom and gloom are the same people who were saying we should have stocked up on anti-flu vaccines to counter super flu's. They were also predicting the H1N1 eradicating millions, SARS virus doing the same and oh yeah, Ebola coming into Europe and wiping out many people.

These people are not to be believed.

"FUDing"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_unce..._and_doubt

Post: #150

Sorting out my vote, ill be voting via my parents since im currently living abroad. Doing my best to sway friends and family to vote leave as well. Despite what is said in this thread regarding the outcome not mattering, it does.

We need to win by a good margin and then take it from there, it can be hard for people to make up their mind about leaving the EU, however a lot will be apathetic and ask for reasons why to leave the EU. I think in this case its best you dont push your beliefs too heavily on them because people hate being told what to do, instead try convince them to watch this movie:





It's an hour long but if that does not convince them to vote leave I don't know what will.

Guys, try to remain positive, this might be the last major decision you will be able to vote one while the UK still has a majority native population. Do your country a service and vote and convince others to do the same.