Post: #1

Hey Guys,

I was at a Latin party yesterday and here I was spitting game on this hot Latvian chick using my visit to Latvia as a DHV. Everything went well and my improving game reaped dividends so I ended up getting the email and facebook(I don't use numbers these days) without any problems.

2 things bugged me a bit though while I was in the act of building attraction with this chick.

(1) A friend of this Latvian, a Brazilian chick often interrupted my conversation in order to speak to her. Now I understand that the Brazilian has a bubbly personality and I don't think she was doing it to purpousely cockblock as often happens in clubs with ugly broads. Still it was annoying and my target would obviously respond to her friend as I had only just met her.

I don't like being left there staring like a fool. In the past whenever I asked a chick to not interrupt like that it backfired so now I just keep cool and look unperturbed. A social cockblock like this is a bit of a hindrance as it disrupts the flow of conversation/humour etc. I'd like to be able to build attraction without friends of my target acting as roadblocks.

(2) Guys who don't have game tend to float towards where I'm at and start talking. That's fine in most cases but it's a pain when you're talking to a chick and don't appreciate the extra dude. I remember in my afc days I used to make the same mistake but now I steer clear of a guy talking to a girl alone. There's enough cockblocks going on already.

Again this is not a pre-calculated cockblock situation. The guy isn't there to disrupt your good work. He's just there coz he doesn't know better. It's hardly possible to tell him to nicely fuck off in front of the chick but it would be nice to get rid of a clueless orbiter who does nothing but try to compete with the guy already working on the girl.

I'd like to hear your thoughts about this. It's less of a big deal that the disgusting cockblocks that take place when ugly bitches try to stop their friends from meeting interesting guys(such as in Roosh's seed of revenge cockblock post). I managed to seal the deal but I'd like a smoother way of doing it without the uncomfortable time waiting for the target's friend to finish her temporary cockblock.

Thanks guys and keep improving!

Flash

Post: #2

For the first part, I'm not certain as I don't know the culture well enough. I'd wager this is often a case of her friend checking to see if you're suitable for her friend, but I can't say for sure. If she's not being bitchy to you or flat out ignoring you, I wouldn't worry too much. Just don't let yourself get shut out of the conversation.

For the second part, I've got a friend I go out with (he likes to drive) that does this a lot too. Your best bet is to simply take your target and relocate. Just grab her hand and say "come with me a minute." and go. Then make up whatever excuse, like sorry, "The music was too loud over there." or whatever is relevant to the situation. The other guy(s) should take a hint and not follow you, unless they're completely dense.

There's often going to be roadblocks though, and if these people aren't trying to hinder your game/deliberately cockblock you, then I wouldn't get too frustrated about it. Just work on building solid rapport and your girl should be too interested in you to give anyone else much attention.

Post: #3

#2 will only get worse as you get better, especially if you are friendly looking.

Weak males love to piggy back on your game.

Post: #4

I'd engage in conversation in both instances for a minute, and then say "excuse us for a second" and grab her hand and isolate.

Logistical cockblocks 95% of the time, should be handled non-reactively (it should seem polite if someone is watching you) and then isolate. That easy.

If they don't let up, back-turn if it is a guy and get the number in the short time that you're able to isolate if it is her friend. After you get the number, hang out for a bit and be cool. Try to get a guy in on the convo for the friend to talk to.

If you're going for ONS, it should be played differently only in the sense that you should be trying to pull out of the club when you see that her friend is engaged in conversation with the guy. Be firm. If she says she wants to say bye to her friend, say "no time, 'sgo" in a dismissive manner and lead out.

Post: #5

#2 is a big problem for me too. I'll isolate a girl and start talking to her and within a few minutes some dude will always come up and awkwardly stand there without saying anything. These are at social gatherings where at least half of the people are friends or acquaintances so they don't feel awkward coming up and ruining the flow of my game. Instead of using real game to approach a girl they will approach me and hope that I'll let him weasel his way in so he can game her, not that he would be able to anyway because he has no game. The last time this happened I said, "Hey I think that game of beer pong is about to end, you should go grab next game!"

Post: #6

Cheers guys. Gold responses that will come in handy someday.

Post: #7

#2 has definitely happened to me before...and it sucks because if it's someone I know I feel bad about boxing them out unless I don't like the guy at all. In that case, I box him out and try to ignore it as much as possible.

Post: #8

(07-10-2011 12:31 PM)Sh0t Wrote:  Weak males love to piggy back on your game.

So fucking true.

Post: #9

Quote:Again this is not a pre-calculated cockblock situation. The guy isn't there to disrupt your good work.

Giving people the benefit of the doubt in cases like this basically guarantees that the "accidental" cockblock will happen. When you assume everyone is trying to cockblock your shit, you take the right countermeasures and decrease its occurrence.

(07-10-2011 12:31 PM)Sh0t Wrote:  Weak males love to piggy back on your game.

This is especially a problem in Poland. They stand near me, cheesin, like I'm going to bring them into my sets.

Post: #10

(07-12-2011 05:20 PM)Qtip Wrote:  

(07-10-2011 12:31 PM)Sh0t Wrote:  Weak males love to piggy back on your game.

So fucking true.

This used to happen to me all the time before I knew better. Nowadays, I mop the floor with leeching betas. Sometimes, if I'm a mean mood, I ridicule them without mercy for my benefit (in an ostensibly kind way that doesn't discredit me with the babes, but lowers their value). Most times, I use them as props for my conversation, pivots to lower the girl's value, or decoys for the fat friend. It takes practice, but it works like a charm in a lot of cases.

I've had beta acquaintances who would wait for me to open a group before swooping in trying to work their "game" on my girls. Invariably, they would sour the interaction within seconds. I pretty much cut all of these characters out of my life.