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There was a gas attack in Syria a few years ago. Later it had be mostly "moderate" rebels. About this fake girl twitter. In the Arab spring there was a guy from the US with a fake blog / twitter who pretended to be a lesbian girl. I remember the lies about the Iraq war in the 90s, where they said Saddams soldiers kill Kuawaitian babies. Assad is for sure not a nice guy, but all the "moderate" rebels are mainly jihadi Muslims. And the revolutions in the middle east show, it don't get better when one dictator vanish. It get worse and the fanatic Muslims gain power.

Turkey was kind of involved in the gas attack some years ago in Syria. They use the Islamist groups to fight the Kurds. The west work so hard to paint Assad as the bad guy and the rebels as the good guys that want to liberate the poor Syrian citizens. Well mostly they are mercenaries that want to rise their Islamic Caliphate. The West has some very dirty hands in all of this. China and Russia support Assad because they have seen how the Western countries, the Neocons want to increase their influence. Poor Assad did not agree to sign some pipline going trough his country. Same like in Egypt with the Suez crisis. We can talk about the stupid Muslims / Arabs all day long. They are just the dogs. Its the Western Neo Con governments that push it all.

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(04-08-2017 02:03 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  This is the age of "Who can show the saddest baby photos" politics to drive people' emotion and political narrative (be it to drive the migrant crisis in Europe, or push for intervention in Syria) . And it sets a dangerous precedent as Taleb puts it.


My post about thinking it was a mistake for Trump to show vulnerability to an Appeal To The Pathetic during his campaign - 1000 pages back in the Trump thread! - has aged well:

Quote:Ignore the Actors in the situation and whatever emotional response is being prompted. It's manipulation.

Any kind of conciliatory reaction is a signal to the Left that his campaign is vulnerable to the Appeal To The Pathetic, so they just need to find the most pathetic actor.

You know where this ends up? The Disney Film Bullshit that I think of as being "The Sad Crying Kitty Shivering Under A Tree In A Thunderstorm" moment.

You'll end up with a tiny, cute-but-damaged in some way six year old Mexican girl hobbling up on stage, perhaps on a crutch, telling 'Mister Twump' that she escaped persecution / saw parents killed / survived brutal border crossing and how terrified she is of being sent back home because she came here "Iwegalwy".

/thread-48360...pid1363633

I was explaining the Sad Crying Kitty thing even further back in the thread to suggest how to create our own propaganda:

Quote:If you are at a rally and have a camera, study the techniques of visual emotional manipulation. A good source of this is Disney cartoons - they always had what I'd think of as 'the Sad, Crying Kitty Shivering Under A Tree In A Rainstorm' moment. You'll know it when you see it: it's a willing embrace of the pathetic. For some reason, Millennial Artists think their work is more artistically-valid if they can make people cry. Making people cry is the easiest thing in the world.

A good recent example is the start of that cartoon film about the old man who put balloons on his house to float away. Girls are always bawling within the first 5 minutes. It's all standard Disney tricks about innocence and joy being threatened that they've been using since 'The Old Mill', way back in the 30's.

Remember, look for beauty and nobility being threatened by ugliness, the weaker the better.

/thread-48360...pid1317038

Now, do I believe Trump was actually swayed into action by this particular Appeal to the Pathetic? Not at all. It's simply a convenient excuse to reverse previously-stated policy, based upon the previously-seeded idea to the voting population that 'he isn't heartless'.

In the first post above, I quoted Oscar Wilde mocking Dicken's Appeal to the Pathetic all in the name of Social Reform in 'The Old Curiousity Shop':

Quote:"One must have a heart of stone to read the death of Little Nell without laughing."

... which was my exact reaction to crapola about 'beautiful babies' and 'children of God'. We may be separated by 130 years, Mr. Wilde, but, functionally, nothing has changed. So much for social progress.
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"PICTURES OF GASSED CHILDREN SELL WARS!"
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Something strange is happening...If this is some sort of multi-dimensional chess, then fair play, this is better trolling than Bobby Fischer pulled off on Boris Spassky in Reykjavik 1972.





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If anyone's wondering about the "boots on ground by June 1", looks like the US is already on the ground and on stand-by.


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Two thoughts.
Would a female commander (even though a commander) be more able to rationalize a situation.
Or would emotive propaganda cause knee-jerk reactions from said commander?

Also.
Makes the ineffectual strike on the now operational Syrian airfield, make more sense knowing a chick was at the helm... Rolleyes

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Isn't she just a little cutie?
All the while, so eloquent....

"What's your favourite food honey?"

"Sa, sa, save the shildren of Syria!!"

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(04-08-2017 08:39 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Two thoughts.
Would a female commander (even though a commander) be more able to rationalize a situation.
Or would emotive propaganda cause knee-jerk reactions from said commander?

Also.
Makes the ineffectual strike on the now operational Syrian airfield, make more sense knowing a chick was at the helm... Rolleyes



She seems legit.
http://www.c6f.navy.mil/staff/commander-andria-slough
Quote:Commander Andria Slough was commissioned in 1998 from the U.S. Naval Academy with a Bachelor of Science degree in Ocean Engineering.

At sea, Commander Slough served as Combat Information Center Officer, and later Auxiliaries and Electrical Officer in USS O'Brien (DD 975); commissioning Fire Control Officer in USS Bulkely (DDG 84); Weapons Officer in USS The Sullivans (DDG 68); Executive Officer and Commanding Officer in USS Defender (MCM 2) and as Executive Officer in USS Porter (DDG 78).

Ashore, Commander Slough served at the Aegis Training and Readiness Center in Dahlgren, VA, as a technical instructor for Prospective Commanding Officers and Executive Officers, participated in the initial Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense capability development and headed the LCS/DD(X) Task Force; forward-deployed to the U.S. Central Command Headquarters in Doha, Qatar, supporting the Friendly Forces Coalition Coordination Center as a Naval Operations Officer; and as the Deputy Director for Joint Maritime Ballistic Missile Defense Operations and Training while assigned to the Missile Defense Agency's Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense Program Office.

Commander Slough's additional education includes a Master of Arts Degree in Public Policy and Administration, Concentration in Security and Intelligence Studies, from the University of Pittsburgh and qualification as a Joint Service Officer. Her personal awards include the Defense Meritorious Service Medal, the Meritorious Service Medal, Pacific Fleet Shiphandler of the Year and the Vice Admiral John D. Bulkeley Leadership Award.


More importantly, can she make me a sandwich?
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I wonder if this thread and the Trump thread will converge over the coming weeks. Laugh
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Syrian girl has just delivered an important message on the Syrian attack.





Also, Syrian girl appears on Infowars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx19pEalgoc

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The time to get right with God is now if you are on the coasts without an easy escape plan. I am doing so myself.
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(04-08-2017 10:41 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  The time to get right with God is now if you are on the coasts without an easy escape plan. I am doing so myself.

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Life comes at you fast.

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Again, "tanks" to a civilian or reporter could mean anything other than a tank.

Main Battle Tanks.

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Not "tanks" as observed by most civilians and journalists.

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MBTs need a lot of time to reach the battlefield unless they are right there. Hold off on claiming we're pushing an armoured column into Syria until we have actual live shots of them.
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This seems unequivocal:
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A statement issued on Sunday by a joint command centre consisting of forces of Russian, Iran and allied militia alliance supporting Syrian President Bashar al Assad said that Friday's US strike on the Syrian air base crossed “red lines” and it would "respond with force" to any new aggression while increasing their level of support to their ally.

In the statement published by the group on media outlet Ilam al Harbi, the pro-Assad alliances says that “what America waged in an aggression on Syria is a crossing of red lines. From now on we will respond with force to any aggressor or any breach of red lines from whoever it is and America knows our ability to respond well."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-09...ssed-again

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EXCLUSIVE: MASSIVE US INVASION OF SYRIA HAS ALREADY BEGUN
High level sources tell Infowars Trump administration set for full-scale Syria invasion
Infowars.com - APRIL 9, 2017

https://www.infowars.com/exclusive-massi...ady-begun/





Mike Cernovich on Infowars

ADDENDUM: Sorry guys, this is just a teaser from a couple hours back. Cernovich isn't in this clip. There's a live stream right now, but I don't know if Mike has been on yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ6xk3XX04c
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As of right now I don't believe it. Not in an invasion as in Iraq, meant to topple Assad. We're not going to war with Russia casually. Infowars cries "the sky is falling" too often.

I would believe in a ramping up of US presence in Syria occurring to fight ISIS and we already know that US Special Forces have been operating there since Obama.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_aPlqjvJno

Smart man, he understands the the influence of the media and of the (hidden) administration surrounding Trump.
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If it wasn't so sad, it would be really funny


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