Post: #126

(02-08-2016 10:43 AM)MonsieurD Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 09:22 AM)Gmac Wrote:  Guys, when it comes to the aggressive "protesters" and as more of encounters happen, post in the other subforum as well. Download videos, take screenshots, gather information (just don't act on it). Whatever youtube account uploaded the video is also pertinent information.

If you ever find yourself if a compromised situation like this, extract yourself immediately. Jump in a cab, find the nearest police officer, or enter a business and calmly/quietly ask them for an emergency/back exit. These situations can escalate quickly.

What is the "other subforum" ? I had a pretty lengthy conversation with the girl who initially posted the video that I grabbed, and I admit I have second thoughts about revealing her name and place of employment. On the one hand, I would love for Just_Die to press charges, we really need to stop this, but on the other, the girl in question is just a very naive (she can't be more than 20 years old, probably less) and she was just brainwashed by the angry regressive leftists, she's the typical brainless anarchist who really seems to believe that Roosh organized rape gangs.....

Bottom line, she really believes this shit and is too young to know better, so I'm not quite sure I should deliver her to you guys, I know what you can do!

Anyway, after quite a few back-and-forths, she finally blocked me, so I could be persuaded, she DOES need to learn that actions -illegal ones at that- have consequences.

You can PM me the details instead if you have any.

Post: #127

(02-08-2016 10:43 AM)MonsieurD Wrote:  I had a pretty lengthy conversation with the girl who initially posted the video that I grabbed, and I admit I have second thoughts about revealing her name and place of employment. On the one hand, I would love for Just_Die to press charges, we really need to stop this, but on the other, the girl in question is just a very naive (she can't be more than 20 years old, probably less) and she was just brainwashed by the angry regressive leftists, she's the typical brainless anarchist who really seems to believe that Roosh organized rape gangs.....

Most of them will be naive, young and mostly even nice when you meet them alone. This is not the point. In their group they are a mob, lead by fanatics. In a situation like this you can't argue. They want to see blood, your blood. You are the demon they create in their mind. Its the mob mentality. Heath up by lies and rumours in mix with their own emotions and naive or incomplete view of the world. Keep a look at the red guards of Mao, they had be teens and killed their teachers. They did chose their side, naive or not. Intention or not. Join a mob is a wrong decision. Even when you are just 20. In other cases and times, young people in the age of 20 had a family and responsibility, or went to war with responsibility of millions of dollar equipment or even lead other ones into battle. When you think, oh she is such a nice, innocent but naive girl. Well they are mostly all of them like that. They are anonymous, they are legion. They are the SJW Mob.

In a situation like this, you can not hesitate because they will not. Think about the scene of Matrix. As long as they are part of the Matrix, they are the enemy. It's sad, but its a hard truth.

When I think about the meeting where I went, and when I would had fall for the trick of this Antifa guy. I don't know what would happen to me. I guess it would not be nice.

Post: #128

Think of it also as doing her a favor. If she learns now that there are consequences for her decisions and actions, it may help her be a more responsible adult in the long term.

Post: #129

(02-07-2016 02:36 AM)Just_Die Wrote:  Here's an independent report of what happened in Montreal, too exhausted to add more details but the essential is there.

https://www.reddit.com/r/montreal/commen...ay_at_8pm/

EDIT: Reddit text removed. Basically I was at the secret meet point meeting some of the guys when 30 girls with masks swarmed me, completely surrounded me, pushed me around on the streets, tried to get strangers to get in on the action, would attempt to grab my phone from my hand. I went down into the subway to get assistance from the subway police who separated me in a utility room until the real police came.

In the end, the police escorted me to a taxi, and i did a few rounds in it before going to the final bar that my current group members were gonna meet up in, i joined them and had a good night even if I was shaken. I'm glad the final meeting place wasn't leaked, that layer of protection did work.

For the record I heavily filtered all the 6 additional dudes that were to join the group for the first time, I had their pictures, social media and telephones. I interviewed them each and spoke to them until i was certain they were one of us. Only 1 out of the 6 did not show up, so I basically heavily suspect him. That is unless the email account got hacked, which I think is rather unlikely in comparison. I really did not expect this however given how careful I was with the filtering.

I wanted to film them but they tried to grab my phone away so i had to keep it in my pocket, i managed to film some of them once i got police protection though, will post later.

He is the guy that runs the MTL Group. I can testify that he's is 100% legit, & so are his MTL meetups for that matter.

Post: #130

(02-08-2016 12:53 AM)Caractacus Potts Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 11:18 AM)armenia4ever Wrote:  The Chicago meetup was a success. Met Forney, Snowplow, and several other guys. (Forgive me, I'm bad with remembering names.)

About 13 of us showed up and successfully evaded any SJWs.

Topics discussed ranged from work and family to even one fellow giving me some parenting advice as I am having a kid.

Something he said struck me about raising daughters and it was something along the line of," I tell my daughter everyday how much I love her." Think about what that does to raise a strong father daughter bond.

I've seen some girls who never got enough love from their dads, so they seek it poorly in men who will pump and dump them. I also think it's worth talking about more in the manosphere; raising kids, especially daughters.

Matt is also great to talk to in person.

Ha! That was me that said that. That you took that away from our conversation makes the entire night worth it. Congratulations again!

CP

I was thinking about what you said the entire night and told my wife about it the next day. Thanks again for the good time - that applies to everyone who was at the Chicago meetup.

Quintus has mentioned the need for mentors for men and I wonder if more meetups could be utilized to this effect - depending on location. I believe there is alot some of the older forum members could teach guys like me.

Knowledge is one thing, but you can only gain wisdom through experience, something that can really be only acquired through age.

Post: #131

Surrey / Fraser Valley Meet up went off without a hitch – lots of hate mail and protest threats leading up to the day. Also, quite a bit of interest from non-forum members who wanted to get in on the action and seemed semi-legit.

Organized a pre-meet up at a nearby location to try and vet 3 or 4 guys who showed promise. When I arrived at the spot there were cops and low T guys / girls all over. I stayed back but no one showed.

Proceeded on to the main meet up point. Quickly connected with the vetted forum members and headed over to the final location. Our group was a good mix of young and old, different backgrounds and experiences – but with a singular confidence in our purpose. That purpose of course was to share the company and ideas of like minded men. Good conversation, good stories and cold beer ensued. Looking forward to the next one.

Post: #132

(02-08-2016 11:36 AM)Parzival Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 10:43 AM)MonsieurD Wrote:  I had a pretty lengthy conversation with the girl who initially posted the video that I grabbed, and I admit I have second thoughts about revealing her name and place of employment. On the one hand, I would love for Just_Die to press charges, we really need to stop this, but on the other, the girl in question is just a very naive (she can't be more than 20 years old, probably less) and she was just brainwashed by the angry regressive leftists, she's the typical brainless anarchist who really seems to believe that Roosh organized rape gangs.....

Most of them will be naive, young and mostly even nice when you meet them alone. This is not the point. In their group they are a mob, lead by fanatics. In a situation like this you can't argue. They want to see blood, your blood. You are the demon they create in their mind. Its the mob mentality. Heath up by lies and rumours in mix with their own emotions and naive or incomplete view of the world. Keep a look at the red guards of Mao, they had be teens and killed their teachers. They did chose their side, naive or not. Intention or not. Join a mob is a wrong decision. Even when you are just 20. In other cases and times, young people in the age of 20 had a family and responsibility, or went to war with responsibility of millions of dollar equipment or even lead other ones into battle. When you think, oh she is such a nice, innocent but naive girl. Well they are mostly all of them like that. They are anonymous, they are legion. They are the SJW Mob.

In a situation like this, you can not hesitate because they will not. Think about the scene of Matrix. As long as they are part of the Matrix, they are the enemy. It's sad, but its a hard truth.

When I think about the meeting where I went, and when I would had fall for the trick of this Antifa guy. I don't know what would happen to me. I guess it would not be nice.

^This. These people are meek when by themselves, and it might be tempting to feel some degree of pity for them when you know that they have been brainwashed. However, they show their true colors once emboldened by the safety net of like-minded fools. As tempting as it is to show them mercy, the reality is that they would do no such thing for any of us.

Obviously it's up to you to do what you think is right, but as C-Note said, this might be an opportunity for her to learn an important lesson.

Post: #133

Phoenix/Scottsdale, Arizona had a tribe started. Strong work gentlemen.

Post: #134

Update on the Montreal assault :

The girl just reposted her video, now with the face of the assaulters blurred, saying "it would be nice if we could identify them", not seeing the irony of the statement.

https://www.facebook.com/camille.montfor...261898485/


Also, "Katie Nelson" just admitted on twitter in a convo with me (ADoisneau) that she was the girl on the left around 3:45...

Post: #135

(02-08-2016 12:20 PM)armenia4ever Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:53 AM)Caractacus Potts Wrote:  

(02-07-2016 11:18 AM)armenia4ever Wrote:  The Chicago meetup was a success. Met Forney, Snowplow, and several other guys. (Forgive me, I'm bad with remembering names.)

About 13 of us showed up and successfully evaded any SJWs.

Topics discussed ranged from work and family to even one fellow giving me some parenting advice as I am having a kid.

Something he said struck me about raising daughters and it was something along the line of," I tell my daughter everyday how much I love her." Think about what that does to raise a strong father daughter bond.

I've seen some girls who never got enough love from their dads, so they seek it poorly in men who will pump and dump them. I also think it's worth talking about more in the manosphere; raising kids, especially daughters.

Matt is also great to talk to in person.

Ha! That was me that said that. That you took that away from our conversation makes the entire night worth it. Congratulations again!

CP

I was thinking about what you said the entire night and told my wife about it the next day. Thanks again for the good time - that applies to everyone who was at the Chicago meetup.

Quintus has mentioned the need for mentors for men and I wonder if more meetups could be utilized to this effect - depending on location. I believe there is alot some of the older forum members could teach guys like me.

Knowledge is one thing, but you can only gain wisdom through experience, something that can really be only acquired through age.

Yeah raising daughters is a whole other thing. Raising boys is hard enough in this day and age but daughters are even tougher given the whole feminist indoctrination they receive along with the horrible media influences and often shitty parenting from their mothers.

At least Potts gave some good advice. The only thing I got was fucking Snowplow making fun of my long hair and telling me to cut it because I look like a freak.

Post: #136

Hi there. This is my first Post here in the forum. I was at the RoK meetup in chicago and indeed it was a resounding success. There was a wide range of men from all spectrums and ages in life that made for great conversation and ideas. Hope to see you guys again in the near future!

Post: #137

(02-08-2016 01:39 PM)MonsieurD Wrote:  Update on the Montreal assault :

The girl just reposted her video, now with the face of the assaulters blurred, saying "it would be nice if we could identify them", not seeing the irony of the statement.

https://www.facebook.com/camille.montfor...261898485/


Also, "Katie Nelson" just admitted on twitter in a convo with me (ADoisneau) that she was the girl on the left around 3:45...

Screencap everything.

Post: #138

Hopefully the Tehran crew is ok, because they are not dealing with SJW, but the religious police!

Post: #139

(02-08-2016 01:41 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:20 PM)armenia4ever Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:53 AM)Caractacus Potts Wrote:  [quote='armenia4ever' pid='1214849' dateline='1454861933']
The Chicago meetup was a success. Met Forney, Snowplow, and several other guys. (Forgive me, I'm bad with remembering names.)

About 13 of us showed up and successfully evaded any SJWs.

Topics discussed ranged from work and family to even one fellow giving me some parenting advice as I am having a kid.

Something he said struck me about raising daughters and it was something along the line of," I tell my daughter everyday how much I love her." Think about what that does to raise a strong father daughter bond.

I've seen some girls who never got enough love from their dads, so they seek it poorly in men who will pump and dump them. I also think it's worth talking about more in the manosphere; raising kids, especially daughters.

Matt is also great to talk to in person.

Ha! That was me that said that. That you took that away from our conversation makes the entire night worth it. Congratulations again!

CP

I was thinking about what you said the entire night and told my wife about it the next day. Thanks again for the good time - that applies to everyone who was at the Chicago meetup.

Quintus has mentioned the need for mentors for men and I wonder if more meetups could be utilized to this effect - depending on location. I believe there is alot some of the older forum members could teach guys like me.

Knowledge is one thing, but you can only gain wisdom through experience, something that can really be only acquired through age.

Yeah raising daughters is a whole other thing. Raising boys is hard enough in this day and age but daughters are even tougher given the whole feminist indoctrination they receive along with the horrible media influences and often shitty parenting from their mothers.

At least Potts gave some good advice. The only thing I got was fucking Snowplow making fun of my long hair and telling me to cut it because I look like a freak.
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Yea I think you should get a hairstyle like mine. You could then give some real piecing dark stares at some girls for the perfect effect.

Post: #140

(02-08-2016 03:54 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:39 PM)MonsieurD Wrote:  Update on the Montreal assault :

The girl just reposted her video, now with the face of the assaulters blurred, saying "it would be nice if we could identify them", not seeing the irony of the statement.

https://www.facebook.com/camille.montfor...261898485/


Also, "Katie Nelson" just admitted on twitter in a convo with me (ADoisneau) that she was the girl on the left around 3:45...

Screencap everything.

I have just received a notice from YouTube telling me to remove my video as it has been flagged as a violation of privacy guidelines. May I suggest that others download it and post it? I can send it to people, or upload it on another site, if you have any advice, please let me know.

Of course, I'll wait the full 48 hours before complying, feel free to do whatever in the meantime.

Post: #141

Do you mean the "Fascists hunting down a guy because reasons." video?
I've saved it, the quality isn't great though.

Post: #142

(02-08-2016 10:11 AM)Just_Die Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 09:20 AM)Lothario Wrote:  MonsieurD and Just_Die, my apologies for doubting you guys earlier. Hope you understand it was a given response with current events and you guys being new to the forum.

Let me welcome you guys to the forum and brotherhood

I was there in August and watching that video is a De Ja Vu feeling for me, makes my blood boil. Strong work there in Montreal, you guys did a great job keeping your cool. Outstanding.

Montreal has a hornet's nest of these people.

We took a stand to affirm our right to get together and talk between men.

There's many professional shit starters there. They'll capitalize and up the ante on anything you could try to pull, they have nothing to lose (no job or dependents) and everything to gain from the attention and martyrdom. We're however too busy working real jobs and paying taxes that fund the social programs and free education their ilk benefit from.

Just want to highlight the video again:

I feel bad for him.
They were quite persistent in following him around.
To the normal bystander they looked really crazy chasing a guy with hoods and face masks.
Good on him for going to the subway police.
You can tell at the end of the video the officer really doesn't give a fuck about what the girl is saying to him.

They got really bold when he was outside in the street by pushing him and grabbing at him but as soon as they got into the train station around police they got less bold. To the point of yelling and screaming at the poor guy.

For anyone who can handle themselves this video is a good study of how stupidly aggressive these SJW types can be.
Without much effort the majority of these people would run away if the escalated the situation quickly and suddenly. Shock and Awe if you will.
Plenty of times I've been told by my sensei that if you're outnumbered severely injuring the leader of the group and then running away usually is enough of a deterrent for them not to give chase.

I'd put money on that a few of these people had weapons on him had he decided on fighting them off physically.

And if the altercation ever went to trial those people would have to explain why they were following a guy around for 30+ minutes shouting at him.
Because you read something about guys getting together on the internet and you thought he was one of them?


Crazy days we live in.

For the record I'm not advocating violence against sjw mobs of this type.
He must've realized that the situation would've gotten worse if he didn't remove himself.
Clearly the guy is fearing for his safety.
How long would this have continued if he didn't locate the police?

Post: #143

Given all that happened, some people in my group are getting jittery, some even quit. This was posted in the group, which I wanted to share here:

"You know a lot has happened in the past few days and I know some of the membership is worried, some stopped posting and some even quit the group. But here’s the facts: this is a men’s discussion group, that talks about masculinity, men’s interests and picking up women (of course). If you are part of this group it’s because you want to talk about these things. You may not like some ideas or authors, but you wouldn’t ban us from talking about them. There are people out there who don’t want us to talk about this stuff. They think we’re monsters or something, and will use crazy arguments to paint us as such. If we give up the right to get together to have a beer and talk men’s talk privately, that was the ONLY point of this group. If we can get pushed around and shamed for wanting to get together as men to be men, than we are nothing and we should just cut our balls off right now and give up. I’m not ashamed of what I am and what I’ve been, or what I’ve learned. I’m not ashamed of anything I’ve done and none of it was illegal on top of that. I’m not ashamed of anything we’ve talked about in the group. If society manages to shame us for our manhood (which it has attempted to do in varying degrees), and we give up, bend over and say “sorry for being a man, I’ll shut up now”, than we can shut this completely legitimate and legal place down. This would have just been an experiment to show how far men have fallen and how easily they can be scared into censoring their nature. We would basically admit that the attackers were right, that we were creeps and losers lurking in basements all this time. We'd stop talking about this stuff, pretend everything's alright and go play videogames or something. Ironically, becoming the basement losers they accused us of being."

Post: #144

(02-09-2016 12:34 PM)Just_Die Wrote:  Given all that happened, some people in my group are getting jittery, some even quit. This was posted in the group, which I wanted to share here:

"You know a lot has happened in the past few days and I know some of the membership is worried, some stopped posting and some even quit the group. But here’s the facts: this is a men’s discussion group, that talks about masculinity, men’s interests and picking up women (of course). If you are part of this group it’s because you want to talk about these things. You may not like some ideas or authors, but you wouldn’t ban us from talking about them. There are people out there who don’t want us to talk about this stuff. They think we’re monsters or something, and will use crazy arguments to paint us as such. If we give up the right to get together to have a beer and talk men’s talk privately, that was the ONLY point of this group. If we can get pushed around and shamed for wanting to get together as men to be men, than we are nothing and we should just cut our balls off right now and give up. I’m not ashamed of what I am and what I’ve been, or what I’ve learned. I’m not ashamed of anything I’ve done and none of it was illegal on top of that. I’m not ashamed of anything we’ve talked about in the group. If society manages to shame us for our manhood (which it has attempted to do in varying degrees), and we give up, bend over and say “sorry for being a man, I’ll shut up now”, than we can shut this completely legitimate and legal place down. This would have just been an experiment to show how far men have fallen and how easily they can be scared into censoring their nature. We would basically admit that the attackers were right, that we were creeps and losers lurking in basements all this time. We'd stop talking about this stuff, pretend everything's alright and go play videogames or something. Ironically, becoming the basement losers they accused us of being."

This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

Post: #145

When about can we expect new meetups to be attempted? The tribal map does not have dots for most of the groups that were formed.

I imagine they'll have to be privately arranged but even the contacts for the local groups are hidden at this point. It would be really nice to have local connections.

Post: #146

(02-08-2016 08:22 PM)MonsieurD Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 03:54 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:39 PM)MonsieurD Wrote:  Update on the Montreal assault :

The girl just reposted her video, now with the face of the assaulters blurred, saying "it would be nice if we could identify them", not seeing the irony of the statement.

https://www.facebook.com/camille.montfor...261898485/


Also, "Katie Nelson" just admitted on twitter in a convo with me (ADoisneau) that she was the girl on the left around 3:45...

Screencap everything.

I have just received a notice from YouTube telling me to remove my video as it has been flagged as a violation of privacy guidelines. May I suggest that others download it and post it? I can send it to people, or upload it on another site, if you have any advice, please let me know.

Of course, I'll wait the full 48 hours before complying, feel free to do whatever in the meantime.

You can send me a copy if you want. PM for details - either way keep the file handy.

Post: #147

(02-09-2016 02:55 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 12:34 PM)Just_Die Wrote:  Given all that happened, some people in my group are getting jittery, some even quit. This was posted in the group, which I wanted to share here:

"You know a lot has happened in the past few days and I know some of the membership is worried, some stopped posting and some even quit the group. But here’s the facts: this is a men’s discussion group, that talks about masculinity, men’s interests and picking up women (of course). If you are part of this group it’s because you want to talk about these things. You may not like some ideas or authors, but you wouldn’t ban us from talking about them. There are people out there who don’t want us to talk about this stuff. They think we’re monsters or something, and will use crazy arguments to paint us as such. If we give up the right to get together to have a beer and talk men’s talk privately, that was the ONLY point of this group. If we can get pushed around and shamed for wanting to get together as men to be men, than we are nothing and we should just cut our balls off right now and give up. I’m not ashamed of what I am and what I’ve been, or what I’ve learned. I’m not ashamed of anything I’ve done and none of it was illegal on top of that. I’m not ashamed of anything we’ve talked about in the group. If society manages to shame us for our manhood (which it has attempted to do in varying degrees), and we give up, bend over and say “sorry for being a man, I’ll shut up now”, than we can shut this completely legitimate and legal place down. This would have just been an experiment to show how far men have fallen and how easily they can be scared into censoring their nature. We would basically admit that the attackers were right, that we were creeps and losers lurking in basements all this time. We'd stop talking about this stuff, pretend everything's alright and go play videogames or something. Ironically, becoming the basement losers they accused us of being."

This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

Post: #148

(02-07-2016 11:23 AM)Gmac Wrote:  DC was highly successful, mostly because the small group of us that attended the press conference went and hit the bars (completely uninterrupted) with Roosh afterward, enjoying our victory lap.

Earlier I'd scoped out the "counter protest" area on my way to the conference an hour prior but there was no sign of SJW's, feminists, or anything remotely organized. Apparently some of the more tame feminists held a "safe space" event inside the Starbucks. You can't make this shit up.

Of course the moment of the cancellation we moved everything underground. All of the guys who attended were vetted and had already attended previous tribal meetups.

Best part, waking up this morning and seeing the dailybeast doing what it does best... still has me reeling:

Quote:The self-proclaimed “most hated man all over the world”—guarded by his security detail of a few large, buff men—held an hour-long press conference in the basement of a boutique hotel in Dupont Circle in Washington, DC, on Saturday evening.

Bro, do you even lift?

To the rest of the world: You cannot and will not stop us.

That's beautiful man. I had planned to come but was throw off by Roosh's cancellation. Keep up the good work.

Post: #149

(02-08-2016 10:43 AM)MonsieurD Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 09:22 AM)Gmac Wrote:  Guys, when it comes to the aggressive "protesters" and as more of encounters happen, post in the other subforum as well. Download videos, take screenshots, gather information (just don't act on it). Whatever youtube account uploaded the video is also pertinent information.

If you ever find yourself if a compromised situation like this, extract yourself immediately. Jump in a cab, find the nearest police officer, or enter a business and calmly/quietly ask them for an emergency/back exit. These situations can escalate quickly.

What is the "other subforum" ? I had a pretty lengthy conversation with the girl who initially posted the video that I grabbed, and I admit I have second thoughts about revealing her name and place of employment. On the one hand, I would love for Just_Die to press charges, we really need to stop this, but on the other, the girl in question is just a very naive (she can't be more than 20 years old, probably less) and she was just brainwashed by the angry regressive leftists, she's the typical brainless anarchist who really seems to believe that Roosh organized rape gangs.....

Bottom line, she really believes this shit and is too young to know better, so I'm not quite sure I should deliver her to you guys, I know what you can do!

Anyway, after quite a few back-and-forths, she finally blocked me, so I could be persuaded, she DOES need to learn that actions -illegal ones at that- have consequences.

She participated in a hate group and may be a threat to her company's integrity.

She should be identified as well as her place of work.

Do you not think they would do it to you in a heart beat for outing them?

Can't let this shit stand.

Post: #150

I agree with Cody.

Look, these harpies have shown absolutely no mercy and no restraint against us. Why should we (or, in that case, you) show pity after all doxxings, outrageous statements and so on? Ignorance and age are no excuse.

We were not the aggressors, they were. They wanted war, and they fucking got it.