Post: #26

(02-04-2016 07:33 AM)krazyhorze Wrote:  Either we go quietly into the night or we take an opportunity we may never have again. ACTION always wins over inaction.

What, like the Charge of the Light Brigade?

Post: #27

(02-04-2016 05:53 PM)Sherman Wrote:  The real way to strike back on anything approaching a level playing field would be a lawsuit for her defamatory statements. She was massively irresponsible to not investigate that facts behind what she was saying.

I don't know about the defamation laws of the UK but they do seem to be more favorable in the UK opposed to the US. We might want to start a legal fund.

But we should make a multiple response effort. Defamation claim, etc.

Post: #28

Success is secrecy and secrecy is success...

I have a plan based upon the wisdom of the ancients' five elements of success required for any human endeavor.

Will require a fundraising component via new SEC rules resulting from the USA Jobs Act.

Will use the UK's and USA's sacred cows against them and to beat the militant Marxist Feminist LGBTQs SJWs at their own game.

Post: #29

(02-04-2016 05:57 PM)dispenser Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 07:33 AM)krazyhorze Wrote:  Either we go quietly into the night or we take an opportunity we may never have again. ACTION always wins over inaction.

What, like the Charge of the Light Brigade?

More like the Civil Rights movement. Those images are powerful, nicely dressed black man with calm demeanor with people shouting in their faces for no other reason than fear.

We need to create different committees. I recommend one dedicated to positive response/PR.

Post: #30

(02-04-2016 06:15 PM)krazyhorze Wrote:  More like the Civil Rights movement. Those images are powerful, nicely dressed black man with calm demeanor with people shouting in their faces for no other reason than fear.

We need to create different committees. I recommend one dedicated to positive response/PR.

I'm more of a Malcolm X man.

What you're advocating is based on what you learned in school and from television: left-wing martyrdom.
The most harmless kind, based on doing nothing, being conciliatory, and pointing out how victimised we are.

But we're not victims. We're not passive. We do things, and these things provoke reactions.
We stand up for ourselves. We take steps to live with dignity. Just by existing, we're provocative.

We'll provoke them till the end, and make no apology for it.

Post: #31

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Post: #32

Maybe I am the only one thinking this, but...

He should write another one.

Post: #33

(02-04-2016 07:27 AM)krazyhorze Wrote:  No one said put identifying information. I wouldn't recommended that either.

But can you imagine such a hysterical response to positive letters. Make them read them all. You will change some minds. Love is our best response. Love of family, love of community, love of our woman.

Love is what we have and they don't. Lets share it with them.

Women know exactly what Roosh is saying. They are just using the opportunity to twist it and promote their own agenda. An agenda of feminine power over men.

They don't give a shit about your love letters.

Post: #34

(02-04-2016 08:02 AM)krazyhorze Wrote:  Designate,

Its called speaking to your audience. This is the language they understand, its simple and to the point. How the hell does someone disagree with love.... Well, except for you.

Listen, man. Governments don't speak the language of love. Especially not democratic western governments. They give the appearance of speaking the language of love in their controlled media. They actually speak the language of "shut up and get back in line, serf."

As Foolsgold1 noted above, western governments have committed nefarious acts-- willfully and gleefully-- when their power has been challenged.

They have killed people by the millions through wars and bombings and sanctions. They have ruined the lives of scores of millions through oppressive laws and regulations. They have economically exploited billions of people. They have opened the gates of their countries to violent barbarians who offer nothing other than a burden on productive citizens for no reason other than that it suits them. They promote destructive ideologies to cripple their own societies so they can grab more control. Behind the scenes they have broken their own laws about drug use, sexual abuse, and even murder.

Perhaps you do not grasp the reasons there is such a thing as this forum.

Because men like us oppose this. That opposition is what they hate.

But go ahead and tell them of your love. They don't care.

You show them love. They will happily send their jack-booted thugs-- either the official police or their sponsored anti-fascist rent a mobs-- to beat you down in return.

Love. Don't show it to the enemy. Save it for friends and allies.

Post: #35

It doesn't matter how positive those letters are. There are only one of two outcomes from that tactic:

1. They're ignored. Thrown away and never spoken about.
or
2. The government and the media makes them well known. But the narrative will be that an evil organisation is sending mountains of harassing letters. It won't matter if they are the least offensive letters ever written.

You need to think about what the big players want from this situation. (Hint: it's not the truth)

The government will love having a scapegoat they can point angry mobs towards. Or more accurately point away from real problems.
And the media loves outrage. It sells a lot better than a bunch of guys writing nice letters. And if the media says something it will be taken as gospel by the vast majority of the population.

Post: #36

(02-04-2016 07:07 AM)krazyhorze Wrote:  So far this has been a slug fest because the narrative has been completely controlled by them. Its time for a response. They have given us a great opportunity and they don't even know it yet, but they soon will.

The weakness of our sat meeting was the our numbers are large but our strength was defused because we are spread out across the entire planet. They have given us the opportunity to focus our entire energy at a single head of a pin for maximum impact. At the same time they elevated our profile that our response will get tremendous attention. So what do we do you ask. Simple.

We write a letter to that woman who spoke at parliament. EVERY SINGLE ONE of us. We explain how our lives have improved by the embrace of our ideas, did you find love, did you improve your health, no longer addicted to drugs, you didn't commit suicide, you are a better father, husband, etc. The letter must be positive!!!! Be sincere, be uplifting, be inspiring. She must wake up to this Monday morning. Thousands and thousands of letters from us. All positive, uplifting.

The frame they are in is one of fear. Lets be the leaders we are and pass this global master shit test. When your woman is hysterical you calm her down by staying calm and let her know there is nothing to fear, because you are in charge. Lets do it men!!!!!

Control the Frame.

Bad idea.

The fact is is that the vast majority of gov officials in EVERY nation (especially the west) are completely isolated from their constituency and their sole purpose is to carry out globalist imperatives with formal elected officials and enforced by informal street level agitators (antifa, BLM, insert-"rights" groups, feminists).

Although there is no real manosphere ideology per se, the general aggregate mindset is antithetical with the ideological vehicles of state-ism and globalism (feminine primacy, compulsory diversity, governmental centralization, socialism, "kumbaya-ism").

Again, writing a letter to a national official is absolutely meaningless in that, regardless of their personal beliefs, they will not be persuaded by even the most well meaning platitudes and testimonies of people whose meta-belief system is in contradiction to The System (note the caps). This goes even for "conservatives".

I bet you anything that if Donald Trump had gotten wind of the RoK meeting he would have come out against it. Why wouldn't he? You saw how the entire global media came out as a single, disciplined unit and didn't break ranks at all in the portrayal of the meeting as a "rape advocate" meeting.

I can appreciate your enthusiasm but you must know this. This is an ideological insurgency. By definition it means you have an uphill battle and won't get sympathy even from the more integrous of politicians and people in power.

Remember, in this day and age government officials in the west serve at the discretion of a network of extremely powerful people who have a vested financial and political interest in the current narrative (standardized meta-thought) on BOTH the left AND right wings of the political system and the careful management of the two.