Post: #1

Gloria Steinem was funded by the Cia, could MRm including roosh be funded by the CIA? Just curious.

Post: #2

Well, tuthmosis did claim to be the forum's Dick Cheney so....

Post: #3

If MRm and Roosh are indeed funded by the CIA, then that organization is very cool!

Post: #4

The OP seems like he's being a little facetious, or maybe not. Regardless, this is one of those questions that straddles the humorous and legitimate for me.

It's humorous in that such a thing seems implausible, and so even asking the question may rank up there, for some, with flat earth talk, moon landing conspiracy talk, etc.

For those that watched the first years of Roosh's first PUA blog grow into what it is now (my word buddy, good job), it is ridiculous to insinuate that Roosh, for instance, is CIA.

However, I also take another view. My overwhelming hunch is that history, for quite a while now, is more or less scripted since at least the two World Wars. Whether that script primarily came before or after is up for debate. I think that the script was much more controlled after those wars, but some people would make an argument for it being generally present before those wars, perhaps using a suspicious financing trail as evidence. To clarify, a "scripted" war might be one in which the length and outcome of the war was more or less determined by its financing before the war started. Of course, conditions would have been made such so that a war was inevitable.

What all of this means is that I don't believe for a second that any type of social movement is allowed to prosper nor affect change for long without it being condoned in the context of a greater plan for what the world will look like in the future.

I don't believe that the 1960's and their political consequences were an actual revolution, adhering to the common definition of the grassroots nature of such.

I don't believe that feminism, drug culture, free love culture, slut culture, academia culture, frat culture, college drinking culture, or anything else is purely spontaneous.

Now, that does not mean that I think that there is a CIA program that starts and maintains all of these cultures. What it means is that I think that there is an effort to shape culture and movements.

To illustrate, a government agency would not have to directly start a men's rights movement. What it would have to do is make the environment for men so inhospitable and one sided against them that such a movement is inevitable as communication becomes more democratized. I think that social engineering research is sufficiently advanced enough that starting seemingly grassroots "revolutions", especially in the nations of whatever organ is manipulating the social climate, is trivial.

Feminism could have been continued to progress more or less smoothly and without much notice by men, if the media and judicial system wasn't belligerent about it. The same goes with race relations in the USA. The same goes for ME and African emigration in Europe. The media's irrational racial agitation and the mass migration of single Middle Eastern Men to Europe are designed to provoke reactions. Neither was necessary to achieve the desired results that these actions superficially imply.

If there was not supposed to be opposition to these things, then they could have more or less kept things progressing as they were roughly up until the end of the 1990's (though feminism was pretty belligerent before then). The frog was boiling largely unaware for most issues. They could be much more strict in terms of taking down popular opposition youtube videos and facebook pages. They could be much more strict in terms of letting opposition-favorable news stories be released. I think that the opposition is cultivated, and that's the only reason why Trump might be our next president. Think about it. He comes out of the gate saying all of the "right" things and pushing all of the popular way-politically incorrect buttons with certainty of effect and zero worry. Why does his popularity exist? Precisely because of the absolutely nonsensical actions of the Media and the DOJ over the last 8 years.

I think that the conflict is the plan, but to what end I'm not certain.

To think that the world is a cultural free for all, I believe, is naïve. If you had unlimited cash and control, would you leave the world's cultural future to chance?

Post: #5

Is this question influanced by my post in this thread?

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Just in case it is, of the two conspiracy theories asked to provide in that thread, this was the one I made up and didn't believe into.

Male desire to bang hot women is primal, men will always find a way, not all men, but a selection of men will do it. Nature always finds a way! These are big forces at play here, bigger then CIA or any other human agency.

This is as far as conserning Game and pickup. If you are asking for MRA movement as something separate from pickup then it is probably not funded by CIA either, because it has achieved nothing except showing resistance to feminist dogma in public opinion. It's better then nothing but is is not enough to suspect that it can be done without aid from a powerful agency. In fact MRA has been far less sucessful then it should be, considering the number of people who participate in this movement showing that this movement doesn't get's help and is very fragmented and disorganized.

All this doen't mean that CIA is not kepping an eye on these movements and perhaps making some subverions from time to time, but it is probably true for any movement.

Post: #6

I do not think that Roosh is an intelligence asset. If you suspect the influence of an intelligence agent(s) look for chatter that continues to shift the attention down a hole with the attempt to keep the target(s) in a state of mental masturbation as opposed to the desire to take (positive) action. The goal is not to have a material effect on the targets´ external life, but rather the mind of the target(s) so that target(s) will not act (against the threat) and hence the target(s) will not be a threat to those who use the technique, or to those with whom the agent(s) is representing. Power goes after those who can provide a means to resist or combat the power.

Having said this one never knows what the future will bring, so be on the look-out for astroturfing type psy-ops.