Post: #26

If Trump doesn't win you're dealing with rot on the inside which not even the will of the people can overcome. Isn't that what America was founded on? When the everyday man cannot see a way out all he has left is the chance to remove tyranny.

Its possible, without a Trump win, the US and western countries in general have to become that much worse to push people over the edge. I cannot say Trump is the be all, end all of the problems in America and the people who dislike him are very powerful indeed but he will make a change frpm these political parasite Trojan horses.

Post: #27

Would be a gun training range practicing for WW3 instead of voting.

Post: #28

Sanders = socialism
Everyone else = corporatism / fascism

Socialism is FAR worse for the citizens of the host country than corporatism/fascism. I'd much prefer a status quo demon pal of globalists than a pure unaffiliated socialist true believer.

Post: #29

(01-29-2016 04:02 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 03:29 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 02:17 PM)captain_shane Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 02:12 PM)MKDAWUSS Wrote:  Sanders. I'm actually OK with a Sanders Presidency.

A sander's presidency is the exact opposite in values that this forum promotes. The exact opposite of neomasculinity.

What values are you referring to? I know plenty of men in this community that are liberal minded who have game, a great lifestyle, and have been an asset to this forum.

One's politics isn't the determining factor in their inclusion or exclusion from this community. What made this Forum special and a community that I am proud of being part of, is the focus on Game, travel, lifestyle and self-improvement. Our political alignment will vary, but let's not make it a basis for one's place here.

And how do you think a socialist bordering on bolshevik extreme-SJW like Sanders is going to impact our ability to game, travel, and improve our lot in life? It's hard to travel when you have no money, and it's hard to have money when the communist scourge takes it away from you to give to the parasites. As for game, look for your ability to approach and fuck strange women to be severely curtailed under a guy who shares (or at least wishes to implement) policies straight out of Jezebel.

Yes, you are right burn your passport and cut off your dick..Armageddon is here.

Let's stop with the end of the world scenarios. Your ability to travel and fuck women is ultimately on you. Exaggerating external forces to do so removes the responsibility from you.

There is little difference once these candidates are in power, whether they are conservative or liberal. Foreign policy for example remains relatively unchanged based on political party. These candidates just want you to believe things will be different. It is all smoke in mirrors.

Post: #30

(01-29-2016 04:30 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 04:02 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 03:29 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 02:17 PM)captain_shane Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 02:12 PM)MKDAWUSS Wrote:  Sanders. I'm actually OK with a Sanders Presidency.

A sander's presidency is the exact opposite in values that this forum promotes. The exact opposite of neomasculinity.

What values are you referring to? I know plenty of men in this community that are liberal minded who have game, a great lifestyle, and have been an asset to this forum.

One's politics isn't the determining factor in their inclusion or exclusion from this community. What made this Forum special and a community that I am proud of being part of, is the focus on Game, travel, lifestyle and self-improvement. Our political alignment will vary, but let's not make it a basis for one's place here.

And how do you think a socialist bordering on bolshevik extreme-SJW like Sanders is going to impact our ability to game, travel, and improve our lot in life? It's hard to travel when you have no money, and it's hard to have money when the communist scourge takes it away from you to give to the parasites. As for game, look for your ability to approach and fuck strange women to be severely curtailed under a guy who shares (or at least wishes to implement) policies straight out of Jezebel.

Yes, you are right burn your passport and cut off your dick..Armageddon is here.

Let's stop with the end of the world scenarios. Your ability to travel and fuck women is ultimately on you. Exaggerating external forces to do so is foolhardy.

There is little difference once these candidates are in power, whether they are conservative or liberal. Foreign policy for example remains relatively unchanged based on political party. These candidates just want you to believe things will be different. It is all smoke in mirrors.

My point about travel had to do with Sanders' well documented proposals to raise taxes on anyone earning over 6 figures to 60% and up. When the government takes 60% of your income, it's hard to afford travel.

That was my point. You are the one who started talking about chopping dicks and burning passport. I'm putting it out there for the record, just so people quickly scanning through this thread don't get the wrong idea about who said what. mmkay.

Post: #31

I would never vote for Sanders because he's too much of a NY clown and I can't bring myself to vote for someone who is not the least bit respectable.

With that being said if Sanders was in office I doubt it'd be the end of the U.S. or anything. He's so weak that most likely he'd just get bullied by everyone with an agenda while in office. He would have to toe the establishment line anyways because I really doubt he has the backbone to maneuver through the political process to do any of the extreme socialist things he wants to do.

Sanders would just be a giant lame duck. You could debate whether or not a lame duck is better than establishment neo-cons like Cruz or Hillary. All 3 choices are awful though.

Maybe in the blank for the write in it would just be better to put down "Fuck you" in bold.

Post: #32

(01-29-2016 04:36 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 04:30 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 04:02 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 03:29 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 02:17 PM)captain_shane Wrote:  A sander's presidency is the exact opposite in values that this forum promotes. The exact opposite of neomasculinity.

What values are you referring to? I know plenty of men in this community that are liberal minded who have game, a great lifestyle, and have been an asset to this forum.

One's politics isn't the determining factor in their inclusion or exclusion from this community. What made this Forum special and a community that I am proud of being part of, is the focus on Game, travel, lifestyle and self-improvement. Our political alignment will vary, but let's not make it a basis for one's place here.

And how do you think a socialist bordering on bolshevik extreme-SJW like Sanders is going to impact our ability to game, travel, and improve our lot in life? It's hard to travel when you have no money, and it's hard to have money when the communist scourge takes it away from you to give to the parasites. As for game, look for your ability to approach and fuck strange women to be severely curtailed under a guy who shares (or at least wishes to implement) policies straight out of Jezebel.

Yes, you are right burn your passport and cut off your dick..Armageddon is here.

Let's stop with the end of the world scenarios. Your ability to travel and fuck women is ultimately on you. Exaggerating external forces to do so is foolhardy.

There is little difference once these candidates are in power, whether they are conservative or liberal. Foreign policy for example remains relatively unchanged based on political party. These candidates just want you to believe things will be different. It is all smoke in mirrors.

My point about travel had to do with Sanders' well documented proposals to raise taxes on anyone earning over 6 figures to 60% and up. When the government takes 60% of your income, it's hard to afford travel.

That was my point. You are the one who started talking about chopping dicks and burning passport. I'm putting it out there for the record, just so people quickly scanning through this thread don't get the wrong idea about who said what. mmkay.

Point taken. I didn't know that is what you were referring to.

Post: #33

(01-29-2016 04:24 PM)captain_shane Wrote:  Samseau posted a link that debunks your thoughts. He wants the Fed to endlessly print money until unemployment is below 4%.

The banks would love this man.

http://www.vox.com/2016/1/26/10829888/be...al-reserve

He's an absolute fool. How can a man that's made 150k+ for countless years have a net worth of 600K?

And to your point about leaving people on the streets, how many veterans are on the streets right now even with our welfare state?

Bernie just wants to be Robin Hood. Banker's = Bad, Single Mother's and Degenerates = Good

FIXED YOUR LINK IN THE QUOTE ABOVE AND HERE:

CORRECT LINK

Post: #34

(01-29-2016 04:30 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 04:02 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 03:29 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 02:17 PM)captain_shane Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 02:12 PM)MKDAWUSS Wrote:  Sanders. I'm actually OK with a Sanders Presidency.

A sander's presidency is the exact opposite in values that this forum promotes. The exact opposite of neomasculinity.

What values are you referring to? I know plenty of men in this community that are liberal minded who have game, a great lifestyle, and have been an asset to this forum.

One's politics isn't the determining factor in their inclusion or exclusion from this community. What made this Forum special and a community that I am proud of being part of, is the focus on Game, travel, lifestyle and self-improvement. Our political alignment will vary, but let's not make it a basis for one's place here.

And how do you think a socialist bordering on bolshevik extreme-SJW like Sanders is going to impact our ability to game, travel, and improve our lot in life? It's hard to travel when you have no money, and it's hard to have money when the communist scourge takes it away from you to give to the parasites. As for game, look for your ability to approach and fuck strange women to be severely curtailed under a guy who shares (or at least wishes to implement) policies straight out of Jezebel.

Yes, you are right burn your passport and cut off your dick..Armageddon is here.

Let's stop with the end of the world scenarios. Your ability to travel and fuck women is ultimately on you. Exaggerating external forces to do so removes the responsibility from you.

There is little difference once these candidates are in power, whether they are conservative or liberal. Foreign policy for example remains relatively unchanged based on political party. These candidates just want you to believe things will be different. It is all smoke in mirrors.

Which in essence is the entire point. No one man will be able to change the fortunes of a nation. Without a cooperative bodies of legislature, whomever takes the seat at 1600 Pennsylvania will be banging their heads against the wall.

None of these guys are coming to town with a rubber stamp from the voting opposition.

Post: #35

Obama had a terrible presidency, but his supporters and the media still love him.
Same would happen for Sanders, so he isn't a good second choice. I'd go with cruz.

Post: #36

Post: #37

Then i'm probably hold my breath, close my eyes and vote for whoever the democratic nominee is. I live in a closed primary state and am registered as a republican but this election the current candidates excluding trump are all horrible. It's literally like the episode of south park where they had to vote for a giant douche or a turd sandwich.

Post: #38

Captain Shane, this massive printing of money would serve the banks only if it was done through the current Fractional reserve banking system. If it were done by direct printing of money (i.e. Fed funding the government directly), none of that would happen.

Of course, Bernie has made exactly 0 (in letters: zero) mentions of fractional reserve banking being bad, so I'm inclined to agree with Samseau - he would be a disaster. He simply doesn't understand anything.

Post: #39

I see no good option, on either side. Trump could perhaps be the "lesser evil". And I say this as a libertarian.

Post: #40

If no Trump, then I'll vote Hillary, burn this mother down if the (whoever is controlling the voting machine, voters or est.) don't want to fix it.

Post: #41

If no Trump, I'll probably just check out of the process. No matter who wins, I lose.

Or I'll write my own name on the ballot, for all the good that will do.

Post: #42

(01-29-2016 01:31 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  Rand Paul has always been my first choice.

I just hopped the Trump train so i can Scuba dive in liberal tears come November.



I admire him as a person but don't think he'll do much as President.

Co-signed Paul is the best choice there is to all of this.

I would also like to point his father has backed his presidency publicly. If Ron backs it I buy it.

Post: #43

For me the two qualities of a leader are intelligence and charisma .

Rubio would be my second choice , but I would risk saying I'm the biggest trump fan here , maybe after Samseau, I remember following him In Atlantic city where I spent all my youth summers he would land with his big helicopter and speak to people on the boardwalk .

I shook his hand I was like 10, still remember his authentic vibe .

Post: #44

Rand lost me when he sucked up to Romney in 2012.

I've been a fan of Ron for a long time. But I read a pretty good analysis claiming Romney used him as a stalking horse to shore up the libertarian end of the vote leading up to the nomination.

Post: #45

I don't need to specify a second.

Trump is going to win.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #46

I'm not American, but hypothetically if I did vote in this situation, I'd vote for the worst candidate likely to win. So I'd vote Sanders.

What bugs me the most is the slow grinding nature of the self-destruction. I want a clean, fast decision. An explosion, not a rot. We're either going to restore sanity or collapse. I'd rather that outcome be reached and determined in 5 years, not 50.

Post: #47

I will write in his name if I have to.
Trump is love. Trump is life.




(no homo)

Post: #48

Sanders as a non-establishment candidate.

Post: #49

(01-29-2016 07:25 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  Co-signed Paul is the best choice there is to all of this.

I would also like to point his father has backed his presidency publicly. If Ron backs it I buy it.

I haven't heard anything about his dad campaigning for him at all.

No TV interviews, no articles, no nothing.

It seems strange to me.

Post: #50

(01-30-2016 11:20 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 07:25 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  Co-signed Paul is the best choice there is to all of this.

I would also like to point his father has backed his presidency publicly. If Ron backs it I buy it.

I haven't heard anything about his dad campaigning for him at all.

No TV interviews, no articles, no nothing.

It seems strange to me.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/n.../79131396/

Quote:Former presidential candidate Ron Paul will return to Iowa a day before the caucuses to campaign for his son.

Ron and Rand Paul will host a "The Revolution Continues Rally" at the University of Iowa on Jan. 31. The younger Paul is a Kentucky senator who is running for the Republican presidential nomination.

It will be the first time Ron Paul has appeared on the campaign trail to stump for his son this cycle.

The event will be held at 7 p.m. at the Iowa Memorial Union, 125 N. Madison St., in Iowa City.

Ron Paul is a former Texas congressman who ran for president three times. He was the presidential nominee of the Libertarian Party in 1988.

In addition to his father, Rand will be joined by more than a dozen family members who will host their own events throughout the state and speak at caucuses on Feb. 1, his campaign said. More details are expected to be released soon.

Edit: If you aren't on Facebook Ron has been endorsing a lot of his son's moves on his Facebook page as well. Just type Rand Paul into the search bar on his page.

https://www.facebook.com/ronpaul/

Edit 2: Also had an interview with Alex Jones about his son's campaign as well.

http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/arch...s-campaign