Post: #1

http://globalgrind.com/2016/01/25/mother...-advances/

Quote:A mother of two was fatally shot by a man she rejected at a local Pittsburgh bar.

According to WTAE, Janese Talton-Jackson, 29, was shot early Friday morning after she declined to speak to 41-year-old Charles McKinney inside a Homewood neighborhood establishment.

Talton-Jackson was leaving Cliff’s Bar when she first encountered McKinney. The mother and college student refused to take the man’s number before leaving. He then followed her outside and shot her in the chest.

She was pronounced dead at the scene at 2:05 a.m.

Police told reporters they heard gunfire around 1:50 a.m, but encountered McKinney shortly after during a routine traffic stop. “Police were talking with McKinney when they received a dispatch that a woman had been shot in the area. According to police, McKinney sped off when he heard this,” the site reports. He crashed into an unoccupied parked vehicle shortly thereafter. Two police officers discharged their weapons during the chase.

McKinney was treated for a gunshot wound and charged with homicide, two counts of aggravated assault, firearms without a license, fleeing or attempting to elude police, two counts of possession with intent to deliver, two counts of recklessly endangering another person, and reckless driving.

Assistant Police Chief Thomas Stangrecki announced an internal investigation.

This is why teaching men Game is such a valuable thing. Inner Game, at the very least.

First and foremost, a person is dead and two kids are going to grow up without a mother because another pussy who doesn't have Game couldn't handle rejection.

We can tell this guy is a simp because he was pursuing a mother of two that persistently. Even if she doesn't have a man, do you really want to take care of another man's kids that badly?

Also, only a pussy gets that worked up about being rejected by one woman that he will shoot them. Jesus.

Not teaching men Game is harmful to society.

Post: #2

A mother of two at a bar till 1:30 am. If she had been caring for her children or studying for her tests she would still be alive today.

Post: #3

Was he delivering drugs or something? Two counts of possession to deliver? Is that one count per drug, or per quantity?

Post: #4

(01-25-2016 10:35 PM)cascadecombo Wrote:  A mother of two at a bar till 1:30 am. If she had been caring for her children or studying for her tests she would still be alive today.

Not only that but the time of the incident was "early Friday morning" according to the article which indicates that she was out at a bar on Thursday night. Now, maybe if you're a childless 20 year old in college full-time with no job or a job where it doesn't matter if you come in tired/hungover, Thursday night is the start of the weekend. But for a 29 year old mother of two who presumably has a serious job and is in school? And of course we're "victim blaming" for going in on her at all according to feminists and others but this is a serious side of the story we have to look at.

I already went in on the man for being a pussy, time to go in on her as well. Equality.

Post: #5

"Game saves lives."

It sounded goofy to me when I first heard someone say this on RVF some six months ago, but every time I see a story like this (which we see more as time goes on) it proves to be truer than anything else.

Elliot Rodger, Chris Harper-Mercer, the Iowa mall guy, now this guy, and many more. All beta pussies. All wouldn't have gotten so hung up over women if they had game.

We're going to see more and more of these stories in the future at an increasing rate. Pussy-deprived betas shooting women because they can't shoot them with their dicks. Our increasingly lazy, feminine society is spawning these losers at a ridiculous rate, and the consequences of this are inevitable. It's pathetic, but it's becoming a reality in progressive first-world countries.

I see dudes in my classes and on my campus who just on the surface are major betas, and when you hear them talk it's only worse. I often wonder if they're going to be the next beta killer.

Post: #6

All the entitlement, none of the skills or resources.

The difference between them and me is I've come to terms with my lack of relationships (which apparently some are jealous of!).

Post: #7

Game doesn't help people like that.

Even at my lowest low, the thought of shooting someone because they rejected me never crossed my mind.

This guy was fucked up and probably had many mental and psychological issues.

Game can help a lot of guys but some people are fucked up and beyond saving

I don't know what he needed but game sure as shit isn't it IMO.

Post: #8

Game (which I rather call skills) and "Inner Game" can only go far, as the sex surplus is set to increase.

The path to the Dark Side in an Anglo market is:

*Thirst
*Frustration
*Desperation
*Simmering resentment
*Dating women who would have been valueless to the dating market in our grandparent's generation (the obese, single mothers)
*Rejection by these women the simp tried to date down with
* Death

Post: #9

You know, her Facebook is in that article, and after perusing it for a few seconds... Listen, anytime a person is killed unjustly it is wrong. It's truly terrible that her two children will be growing up without a mother (or a father). It's obviously insensitive to discuss a woman after she dies, but she is a classic case of the "I'm in independent black woman" culture.

   

Everything, EVERYTHING on her Facebook just clues me in to the type of woman the she is, the kind of woman she was ENCOURAGED to be. Constantly posting nonsense like above on Facebook, multiple times a day. I scrolled through her timeline for about 10 minutes and was barely at January 10th. This woman was exactly what black women are created to be. 29, with two kids and still act like children, going out to clubs on a Thursday night.

I don't put this death on the man who shot her. The man who is single at 41 and is trolling clubs looking to meet women. Who's gone through his whole life looking for "the one", getting constantly rejected time and time again. He was given a check that society bounced.

I don't blame her, a woman who was raised to believe she was perfect. That she should sleep with whoever she wants to do whatever she pleases. She's independent and she can do anything. Nothing should get in the way of her happiness, NOTHING. Not trying her best to keep the father of her kids around, or locking down some beta provider that would be gladly willing to be a father to her kids. We all know there was plenty out there. I can't blame her, because she was created.

Well, congratulations feminists, not like you care about the underlying things that cause things like this. Just another case of MISOGYNY. Keep telling girls their perfect and men that they're worthless.

I can't wait to see how this story ends.

Post: #10

(01-26-2016 06:16 AM)dads Wrote:  You know, her Facebook is in that article, and after perusing it for a few seconds... Listen, anytime a person is killed unjustly it is wrong. It's truly terrible that her two children will be growing up without a mother (or a father). It's obviously insensitive to discuss a woman after she dies, but she is a classic case of the "I'm in independent black woman" culture.



Everything, EVERYTHING on her Facebook just clues me in to the type of woman the she is, the kind of woman she was ENCOURAGED to be. Constantly posting nonsense like above on Facebook, multiple times a day. I scrolled through her timeline for about 10 minutes and was barely at January 10th. This woman was exactly what black women are created to be. 29, with two kids and still act like children, going out to clubs on a Thursday night.

I don't put this death on the man who shot her. The man who is single at 41 and is trolling clubs looking to meet women. Who's gone through his whole life looking for "the one", getting constantly rejected time and time again. He was given a check that society bounced.

I don't blame her, a woman who was raised to believe she was perfect. That she should sleep with whoever she wants to do whatever she pleases. She's independent and she can do anything. Nothing should get in the way of her happiness, NOTHING. Not trying her best to keep the father of her kids around, or locking down some beta provider that would be gladly willing to be a father to her kids. We all know there was plenty out there. I can't blame her, because she was created.

Well, congratulations feminists, not like you care about the underlying things that cause things like this. Just another case of MISOGYNY. Keep telling girls their perfect and men that they're worthless.

I can't wait to see how this story ends.

You blame the victim and pardon the shooter after a 10 minute scroll through Facebook? Come on man....

The shooter, because he was single in a bar at 41, went through life looking for one because society handed him a back check? Come on man....

step away from the manosphere, you are taking this anti-feminist way to seriously when you immediately leap to demonize a shooting victim and coddle the shooter.

Shit like this happens all over the world, all the time.,Girl was a hoe and probably had an entitled bitch attitude, dude was a crazy. End of story.

Post: #11

(01-26-2016 06:30 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 06:16 AM)dads Wrote:  You know, her Facebook is in that article, and after perusing it for a few seconds... Listen, anytime a person is killed unjustly it is wrong. It's truly terrible that her two children will be growing up without a mother (or a father). It's obviously insensitive to discuss a woman after she dies, but she is a classic case of the "I'm in independent black woman" culture.



Everything, EVERYTHING on her Facebook just clues me in to the type of woman the she is, the kind of woman she was ENCOURAGED to be. Constantly posting nonsense like above on Facebook, multiple times a day. I scrolled through her timeline for about 10 minutes and was barely at January 10th. This woman was exactly what black women are created to be. 29, with two kids and still act like children, going out to clubs on a Thursday night.

I don't put this death on the man who shot her. The man who is single at 41 and is trolling clubs looking to meet women. Who's gone through his whole life looking for "the one", getting constantly rejected time and time again. He was given a check that society bounced.

I don't blame her, a woman who was raised to believe she was perfect. That she should sleep with whoever she wants to do whatever she pleases. She's independent and she can do anything. Nothing should get in the way of her happiness, NOTHING. Not trying her best to keep the father of her kids around, or locking down some beta provider that would be gladly willing to be a father to her kids. We all know there was plenty out there. I can't blame her, because she was created.

Well, congratulations feminists, not like you care about the underlying things that cause things like this. Just another case of MISOGYNY. Keep telling girls their perfect and men that they're worthless.

I can't wait to see how this story ends.

You blame the victim and pardon the shooter after a 10 minute scroll through Facebook? Come on man....

The shooter, because he was single in a bar at 41, went through life looking for one because society handed him a back check? Come on man....

step away from the manosphere, you are taking this anti-feminist way to seriously when you immediately leap to demonize a shooting victim and coddle the shooter.

Shit like this happens all over the world, all the time.,Girl was a hoe and probably had an entitled bitch attitude, dude was a crazy. End of story.

When I was reading the post back, I realized how it might make me come off as a generic "feminist" hating guy. I don't have too much of a reputation around here, but if there is one thing I'm not is this. What you might see as "blaming" is me trying to break her down and show how she's a perfect example of a "modern woman".

I believe when looking at culture and society in micro-instances like this one, you have to judge each person in a vacuum. Man killed a mother, he is wrong. Woman has two children, is at a club on a Thursday night, she is wrong. I don't really care to break down percentages of how wrong either were, that's a fool's errand. My post was attempting to look at how on a macro-scale, I find it hard to blame this situation on them as these were two people created by a culture that tells women they are invincible and treats men like they are invisible.

Post: #12

Getting rejected by a 4, then getting emotional and killing her. Some of these dudes smh

Post: #13

(01-26-2016 07:30 AM)dads Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 06:30 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  [quote='dads' pid='1202476' dateline='1453807004']
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When I was reading the post back, I realized how it might make me come off as a generic "feminist" hating guy. I don't have too much of a reputation around here, but if there is one thing I'm not is this. What you might see as "blaming" is me trying to break her down and show how she's a perfect example of a "modern woman".

I believe when looking at culture and society in micro-instances like this one, you have to judge each person in a vacuum. Man killed a mother, he is wrong. Woman has two children, is at a club on a Thursday night, she is wrong. I don't really care to break down percentages of how wrong either were, that's a fool's errand. My post was attempting to look at how on a macro-scale, I find it hard to blame this situation on them as these were two people created by a culture that tells women they are invincible and treats men like they are invisible.

Fair enough. Just remember, that is a very slippery slope. Blaming the culture instead of the person is how you get kids people like the afluenza kid killing 4 people and getting away with it.

Post: #14

"Talton-Jackson was leaving Cliff’s Bar when she first encountered McKinney. The mother and college student refused to take the man’s number before leaving. He then followed her outside and shot her in the chest."

Not excusing the behavior here.

But I wonder if he shot her not so much because she rejected him, but because she insulted him and/or embarrassed him in front of people. In other words, was it "nuclear rejection?"

If so, then his reaction wasn't so much of being "gameless" as it was of having an out-of-control temper. Because humiliating a man in a public setting is also how men end up being the recipient of violence.

Whether you're a man or a woman, if you get in someone's face and/or embarrass them in a public setting, you run a good chance of sparking violence. People often go into rages and act impulsively when they get laughed at or feel they're being made a fool of in front of others.

This is just conjecture. For all I know, she was polite and he was a rageaholic ready to go off.

Post: #15

The first rule of war is always give your enemy the option of escape.

Corner a man, give him no options and he will fight like a savage to the death.

Post: #16

(01-26-2016 06:16 AM)dads Wrote:  I don't put this death on the man who shot her. The man who is single at 41 and is trolling clubs looking to meet women. Who's gone through his whole life looking for "the one", getting constantly rejected time and time again. He was given a check that society bounced.

I don't blame her, a woman who was raised to believe she was perfect. That she should sleep with whoever she wants to do whatever she pleases. She's independent and she can do anything. Nothing should get in the way of her happiness, NOTHING. Not trying her best to keep the father of her kids around, or locking down some beta provider that would be gladly willing to be a father to her kids. We all know there was plenty out there. I can't blame her, because she was created.

I'm glad you aren't blaming her, because no matter how many mistakes she made in life and was still making, no one deserves to get shot unless they are themselves in the process of committing a violent crime.

But you can't let this dude off the hook, no matter how much feminists have screwed up society.

He is 100% percent responsible for pulling that trigger.

(01-26-2016 07:54 AM)pitt Wrote:  Getting rejected by a 4, then getting emotional and killing her. Some of these dudes smh

I wish Tuth was here.

Post: #17

I'll admit I have sub-par game, in fact sometimes I even come across as a total geek.

I've still managed to pick up hot girls at the bars and clubs without even trying that hard.

So when I hear about guys like this who are so bad at their game that they feel the need to shoot someone and throw their life away over a rejection, I don't have much sympathy - and feel better about myself as well.

Post: #18

(01-26-2016 07:54 AM)pitt Wrote:  Getting rejected by a 4, then getting emotional and killing her. Some of these dudes smh

Yeah, I've turned down sex with girls 5 and under who flat-out propositioned themselves because even a guy has to have some standards.

The fact that there are actually guys out there who'll literally kill someone due to being rejected by a whale makes me sad for the state of manhood today, but makes me feel good about myself in comparison.

Post: #19

(01-26-2016 06:16 AM)dads Wrote:  You know, her Facebook is in that article, and after perusing it for a few seconds... Listen, anytime a person is killed unjustly it is wrong. It's truly terrible that her two children will be growing up without a mother (or a father). It's obviously insensitive to discuss a woman after she dies, but she is a classic case of the "I'm in independent black woman" culture.



Everything, EVERYTHING on her Facebook just clues me in to the type of woman the she is, the kind of woman she was ENCOURAGED to be. Constantly posting nonsense like above on Facebook, multiple times a day. I scrolled through her timeline for about 10 minutes and was barely at January 10th. This woman was exactly what black women are created to be. 29, with two kids and still act like children, going out to clubs on a Thursday night.

I don't put this death on the man who shot her. The man who is single at 41 and is trolling clubs looking to meet women. Who's gone through his whole life looking for "the one", getting constantly rejected time and time again. He was given a check that society bounced.

I don't blame her, a woman who was raised to believe she was perfect. That she should sleep with whoever she wants to do whatever she pleases. She's independent and she can do anything. Nothing should get in the way of her happiness, NOTHING. Not trying her best to keep the father of her kids around, or locking down some beta provider that would be gladly willing to be a father to her kids. We all know there was plenty out there. I can't blame her, because she was created.

Well, congratulations feminists, not like you care about the underlying things that cause things like this. Just another case of MISOGYNY. Keep telling girls their perfect and men that they're worthless.

I can't wait to see how this story ends.

Blaming women being bitches for men who can't handle it is setting a very low bar for men though I'd say. I used to have emotional and anxiety issues that made it hard to interact with others but I got pass them just by forcing myself to get out more, or reading books on character development and social skills, and now I can pick up hot girls or deal with rejection without taking it personal.

IMO the solution takes two to tango - there are a lot of guys today who have no manhood, so the solution to bitchy women is to learn game and character and chase after desirable women, instead of being a sychopant to any 5/10 woman with tits and a pulse.

A lot of women think they're entitled yeah, but a lot of guys treat them like they're a 'queen' just hoping to score; the end result is a lot of women stop caring about having standards too - what's the point in being ladylike and having a good personality when some chump at the club will still want to bang you anyway just so he can increase the notches on his belt?

Post: #20

(01-26-2016 06:16 AM)dads Wrote:  You know, her Facebook is in that article, and after perusing it for a few seconds... Listen, anytime a person is killed unjustly it is wrong. It's truly terrible that her two children will be growing up without a mother (or a father). It's obviously insensitive to discuss a woman after she dies, but she is a classic case of the "I'm in independent black woman" culture.



Everything, EVERYTHING on her Facebook just clues me in to the type of woman the she is, the kind of woman she was ENCOURAGED to be. Constantly posting nonsense like above on Facebook, multiple times a day. I scrolled through her timeline for about 10 minutes and was barely at January 10th. This woman was exactly what black women are created to be. 29, with two kids and still act like children, going out to clubs on a Thursday night.

I don't put this death on the man who shot her. The man who is single at 41 and is trolling clubs looking to meet women. Who's gone through his whole life looking for "the one", getting constantly rejected time and time again. He was given a check that society bounced.

I don't blame her, a woman who was raised to believe she was perfect. That she should sleep with whoever she wants to do whatever she pleases. She's independent and she can do anything. Nothing should get in the way of her happiness, NOTHING. Not trying her best to keep the father of her kids around, or locking down some beta provider that would be gladly willing to be a father to her kids. We all know there was plenty out there. I can't blame her, because she was created.

Well, congratulations feminists, not like you care about the underlying things that cause things like this. Just another case of MISOGYNY. Keep telling girls their perfect and men that they're worthless.

I can't wait to see how this story ends.

I understand what Dads is saying here.

This is the case of an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object. Broken losers interacting with broken losers. Of course only bad things can happen.

There are a number of things here:

1. This is why women flake. They give out numbers, or fake numbers, just so they avoid angering a man and being on the receiving end of violence. This dumb bitch thought she was invincible, and got killed for it.

2. She did him a favor by rejecting him, but this guy was so lonely he couldn't handle the rejection.

3. There are tons of sexless betas in our culture. We cannot excuse this man's actions, but we must acknowledge there are tons of guys out there like him created by the sexual climate. Men who don't get laid invariably become maladjusted fucked up people. The only exceptions are the betas who find contentment with God, and God just isn't promoted enough to stop these things from happening.

4. Some fucking idiots will use this story to push for banning guns.


The solutions?

Promote God to betas, promote Game to betas, promote chastity and humility for women. This is what America needs desperately.

Post: #21

(01-25-2016 10:35 PM)cascadecombo Wrote:  A mother of two at a bar till 1:30 am. If she had been caring for her children or studying for her tests she would still be alive today.

So what? Maybe she finished a final and was blowing off some steam. You're going to push moral judgement on a chick that was just killed?

I don't care how much of an Americunt hamster she is, you're stooping to the level of Jezebel forum commenters with this reasoning.

You might as well have written: "A mother of two at the grocery store 'til 5:30 PM. If she had been caring for her children or studying for her tests she would still be alive today."

Thank god I live in a country where women can go to bars unaccompanied by men until 1:30AM if they so choose. Your reasoning reminds me of those Muslim squads that are cruising around Germany right now telling women that they should cover up or change their behavior somehow. Fuck that.

Post: #22

My feed is blowing up over this.
All these chicks finger waving, talking about how men need to step to their fellow men and turn them into empathetic feminists.

I didn't shoot that chick, and none of my guy friends would do that.

If Muslims can't control terrorists, Christians can't control their own church burning and clinic bombers, Chicago hoods can't control gang violence, and women can't control themselves...why would they think men as a collective can reach out to the insane?

WIA

Post: #23

(01-26-2016 09:56 AM)Samseau Wrote:  Men who don't get laid invariably become maladjusted fucked up people.

Interestingly I read a psychology article showing that too much sexual repression ends up finding outlets in the form of anger and rage

This might be why Islamist countries are so violent, and why promises of virgins in paradise might be a powerful motivating too that leaders use to drive men to commit acts of terror

Quote:The only exceptions are the betas who find contentment with God

And that's assuming their urges don't redirect toward altar boys instead, lol

Post: #24

(01-26-2016 10:42 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  My feed is blowing up over this.
All these chicks finger waving, talking about how men need to step to their fellow men and turn them into empathetic feminists.

What's ironic is that most likely this guy was an empathetic feminist and this was the end result. Just like Elliot Rogers, the so called "nice guy" who finally snapped because of all of the psychological pressure that comes from not having a healthy outlet for natural male desires.

The stupidity of some people irks me - what next, claim that child molesting priests are proof that we need more sexual abstinence?

Post: #25

This bitch can't even spell good..... She look fat, bet she got a wide waste.

(01-26-2016 06:16 AM)dads Wrote: