Post: #26

(01-18-2016 05:44 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  Being Italian-American, I never much identified with whiteness while growing up. I felt ethnic.

But years upon years of white-bashing have turned me into something I never thought I'd be: Someone who defends white achievement and thinks there should, in fact, be white pride.

In college, I used to ignore things like this. Now I'm quick to retort "Who built your buildings? Who came up with the Internet? Or the light bulb by which you write all this stuff? Who wrote the Constitution that gives you the freedom of speech to say all this?" If white people are going to get blame, they should get credit -- very specific credit -- for the good they did.

Moral of the story: If you're going to blame white people for society's ills, don't be surprised when they get annoyed and start bringing up white achievement as a retort.

And don't be surprised when they start thinking along racial lines like "The computer is a white invention. So is the recording studio."

It would never have occurred to me to ever think like this in college. But thanks to things like whiteness shaming, I now see things along racial lines. This is not the "progress" people on the left wanted, but it is an unexpected consequence.

So much fuckin this.

When I was younger, I didn't give a shit about the achievements of white people. I just saw achievements. I was color-blinded about it and didn't remotely have the mindset of: "Damn, us white people are badass; we have created so much! White pride baby!" In fact, I gave more notice and attention to non-white people who accomplished something great. MLK jr, Fredrick Douglas, W.E.B. Du Bois, the Tuskegee Airmen, Rosa Parks, etc. I gave them extra respect because of the reality of race relations in their respective time periods.

But given now the pervasive anti-white/white shaming attitudes in so many arenas now, I can't help but call people out of their bullshit and troll them:

"Yeah, white people are horrible. Just awful. They only led the way on pretty much all fronts in creating modern civilization. Our fuckin bad."

There is a reason someone like Trump is doing so well: he is the only candidate that doesn't either overtly or covertly possess some form of white guilt complex. The rest of the white political candidates are traitors to their own race. White people can sense this immediately in an era where the mainstream culture constantly tries to convince everyone that being white isn't alright.

Post: #27

I used to not really care about my whiteness or the achievements of whites. They're awesome but i'm more into the future and what it will bring.

With all of this BS however, it has pushed me to embrace my "white pride" simply because I can't stand white guilt. It's disgusting and weak.

Post: #28

The grand irony is that the same people who are the most vocal anti-white SJWs also most vocally salivate over the accomplishments of Nikola Tesla who was (the last time I checked) a very pale European male.

Post: #29

I guess this whole race stuff is a very American thing. For example me as a German I never refer to me as white, nor do I know other Europeans that do so. We identify by our nationality. Europeans slaughter each other for centuries, so there is for sure no connection in be white. You have slavic, germanic, celtic, baltic and many other ethnic backgrounds. No one in Europe say, we white people. It seems for me that the US has a big affection on those whole race stuff. I once meet an American, he talked all the time how he is a black guy. I said, I don't care. First you are you (the person) and second you are American for me.
Stuff like this can to to a micro level. Like I'm from town X and the village 10 km away is total different. But when I leave my area, even my country I'm first me and then mostly a German. And 99 % of white males have to do the same stuff like everyone else to make their living. Just because the 1 % in the top is white males it don't give me any benefit.

Like some said I made a turnover by myself too. Those blaming of the German past or European history or even the West, where I also disagree with a lot of things that happen there, made me kind of counter proud. When someone calls me out, you Germans, you Europeans, you Westerners, you White people I not longer ignore it. I can not stand the attitude of weaklings that like to be victims. Who want to be a victim? Its a strange thing of gain power when you play the victim and all people cry for you. Its kind of a creepy mental control.
But I'm not a victim, because victims get played. I make my decisions. I take responsibility. Its a harder burden then to blame society and everyone because you can not move on. Its an excuse for laziness.

Post: #30

(01-19-2016 05:20 AM)Parzival Wrote:  I guess this whole race stuff is a very American thing. For example me as a German I never refer to me as white, nor do I know other Europeans that do so. We identify by our nationality. Europeans slaughter each other for centuries, so there is for sure no connection in be white. You have slavic, germanic, celtic, baltic and many other ethnic backgrounds. No one in Europe say, we white people. It seems for me that the US has a big affection on those whole race stuff. I once meet an American, he talked all the time how he is a black guy. I said, I don't care. First you are you (the person) and second you are American for me.
Stuff like this can to to a micro level. Like I'm from town X and the village 10 km away is total different. But when I leave my area, even my country I'm first me and then mostly a German. And 99 % of white males have to do the same stuff like everyone else to make their living. Just because the 1 % in the top is white males it don't give me any benefit.

Like some said I made a turnover by myself too. Those blaming of the German past or European history or even the West, where I also disagree with a lot of things that happen there, made me kind of counter proud. When someone calls me out, you Germans, you Europeans, you Westerners, you White people I not longer ignore it. I can not stand the attitude of weaklings that like to be victims. Who want to be a victim? Its a strange thing of gain power when you play the victim and all people cry for you. Its kind of a creepy mental control.
But I'm not a victim, because victims get played. I make my decisions. I take responsibility. Its a harder burden then to blame society and everyone because you can not move on. Its an excuse for laziness.

The concept of "whiteness" is completely alien to europe. Only british people use the concept "white british" in their census but anyways they (The British and Irish people) always been more similar to the US/Australia/Canada than its to "real" europe in most of concerns of the daily life. Crossing the english-channel has always been for me much more than traveling a few dozens of kilometers, but a complete culture shock and where everything is perceived completely different.

Ther is often the use of "minority" concept in the US that is not well-known in europe.

In the US (and other english speaking nations) people accept you as one of them inmediately, but wait a second...not in the same level of them, you will belong to a second-class of citizens, hence you become a minority as soon as you settle down in the country.. and its almost impossible to climb that social/status ladder. For example a great doctor who is black in the US will always be remembered as the Black guys who happens to be doctor. In a country like germany, norway, the netherlands, (insert any european country other than UK/Ireland) he will remain as a great doctor who has many qualities and interests in life..and being black is only of his many characteristics that by no mean determine who he really is.

In Europe people will say you are a foreigner, even if you live and work in the country for years.. you will never be a real german, dutch , danish ,etc as long as you have left the culture, traditions and language from back home being the core of your own "identity". The only way to become an true naitonal of those countries is when you are born and raised there by parents who already absorbed the dutch/german/french,etc culture, and in many cases it will be too hard because for the majority (in the case of europe is muslims/middle easterns) have too strong cultural roots and religion, thats why (non-muslim blacks or south-east asians) despite being EVEN more different (appearance-wise) from europeans, tend to assimilate faster when living in europe.

Europe is about culture, language, history and traditions
America (and other english speaking nations) are about race, race, an race, which most likely determine your status, personality, behavious, way of thinking and your place in the society. funnily enough americans are far from being "pure people" far more mixed than europeans.


In europe the germans see themselves as german, dutch as dutch, french as french. At most they will use concept such as being ethnic-german or ethnic-french but nobody calls himself white.

The controvertial situaton is that white Americans themselves are pretty mixed (genetically wise) and lack of history, so they have to be chauvinistic about what they have, its a mechanism of protection.

Post: #31

It's all in the context. Imagine if a bunch of Dutch people were transplanted into Southern Africa.

Post: #32

(01-18-2016 05:44 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  Being Italian-American, I never much identified with whiteness while growing up. I felt ethnic.

But years upon years of white-bashing have turned me into something I never thought I'd be: Someone who defends white achievement and thinks there should, in fact, be white pride.

In college, I used to ignore things like this. Now I'm quick to retort "Who built your buildings? Who came up with the Internet? Or the light bulb by which you write all this stuff? Who wrote the Constitution that gives you the freedom of speech to say all this?" If white people are going to get blame, they should get credit -- very specific credit -- for the good they did.

Moral of the story: If you're going to blame white people for society's ills, don't be surprised when they get annoyed and start bringing up white achievement as a retort.

And don't be surprised when they start thinking along racial lines like "The computer is a white invention. So is the recording studio."

It would never have occurred to me to ever think like this in college. But thanks to things like whiteness shaming, I now see things along racial lines. This is not the "progress" people on the left wanted, but it is an unexpected consequence.

I'm East Asian so I'm even less white then you and I've felt the same things in recent time that you've described. I actually find myself having to actively defend white people now since so many of them are unwilling and even afraid to speak up for themselves when a conversation turns towards racial issues. You could say I'm "white knighting" for whites.

Post: #33

(01-19-2016 03:25 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  I used to not really care about my whiteness or the achievements of whites. They're awesome but i'm more into the future and what it will bring.

With all of this BS however, it has pushed me to embrace my "white pride" simply because I can't stand white guilt. It's disgusting and weak.

Same here. Leftists have turned me into a raging racist/sexist/homophobe/anti-semite when I previously didn't give a shit.

You keep poking a sleeping lion, eventually he's gonna wake up and bite your head off.

Post: #34

(01-19-2016 09:19 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  It's all in the context. Imagine if a bunch of Dutch people were transplanted into Southern Africa.

They had be and some are still there. But no longer in charge.

Post: #35

   
There's a part of me that wishes I could be in Portland right now to fight this complete and unadulterated insanity.

Post: #36

The only way this is going to end is if the public pushes to defund colleges that push this marxist race baiting, both at the state and federal level. There's never going to be any meaningful student-led protest to move away from any sort of extremism (you can't dress up moderation to make it appealing to dumb kids). Among the professors, the ones who disagree are just keeping their heads down, and the ones who profit are leading these mobs. The administration is just following the path of least resistance, saying whatever they think will result in the least number of negroes screaming at them. The threat of losing government pork might motivate them otherwise.

Right now the general reaction this college bullshit has been a slow loss of value in the public eye. Like on this forum, people saying "oh just don't bother with college and start your own business". That's fine on an individual level to avoid brainwashing, but even if every person with half a brain quit college these schools would still be riding strong on government funding. In fact without the supply of career-oriented people for STEM fields, the schools would likely shift into full-time Marxist indoctrination camps with 99% minority populations being taught nothing but critical race theory, still fully funded by government funding and student loans.

Post: #37

(01-19-2016 12:27 PM)Hardy Daytona Wrote:  

Post: #38

Why is white-shaming accepted and encouraged by SJWs but fat shaming is not?

Post: #39

The obvious course of action is to double down on the SJW rhetoric out of concern:

"We understand that Whites are oppressive and inherently-racist, causing great discomfort and harm to POC, despite 50 years of anti-racist education in schools and white-funded welfare, the problem is apparently getting worse.

As such, we can see white welfare is a racist form of oppression, because it generates privileged expectations of white-favoured meritocracy and conforming to white notions of behaviour. It creates problematic notions of the White Benefactor of old, which is patronising and dehumanising to POC.

As such, for the safety and comfort of POC, Whites will now be safely segregated to their own white-only businesses, schools and communities, to minimise injustice, oppression and offense, and will keep their tainted, problematic money out of the system to let minorities have true empowering control over their own fate."

Post: #40

^^^

"As punishment for white peoples inherent evilness, their punishment will be separation from multiculturalism and all the vibrant enrichment that comes with it. Do not shed a tear for them however, they dug their own graves."

Post: #41

If they don't like white people why aren't they moving to a country in Africa ?

Post: #42

Are these minorities at the helm?

Or just more white liberals taking charge?

Post: #43

(01-19-2016 05:38 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  Are these minorities at the helm?

Or just more white liberals taking charge?

It's Portland. There are no minorities.

Post: #44

(01-19-2016 11:07 AM)Parzival Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 09:19 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  It's all in the context. Imagine if a bunch of Dutch people were transplanted into Southern Africa.

They had be and some are still there. But no longer in charge.

I know, I was being sarcastic... You Germans are always so serious

Post: #45

(01-19-2016 01:05 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  Why is white-shaming accepted and encouraged by SJWs but fat shaming is not?

I can't.... Is this even a real question? I'm literally, literally shaking right now.

Race is a social construct and you are willingly appropriating yourself to the oppressive class. You're choosing your racial identity so don't cry when someone invalidates your opinion on any issue because you want to be white. The richest person in America is a white man. That means you have no ground to stand on when speaking of oppression.

And you can't choose your body type. A person is born predisposed to being plus-size (fat is soooo disrespectful btw, omfg). And besides, just because a person is 100 pounds heavier for their height and self-identified gender doesn't mean they're unhealthy or lazy. My sister is like that but she drinks diet Coke instead of regular Coke and uses an elliptical machine every. single. Saturday. So, yeah.

Post: #46

A lily-white city devoting an entire month to 'whiteness' shaming. Completely oblivious to the same applying to themselves. Typical r-selected thinking and behavior.

Meanwhile they invite enemies to destroy their ''white'' competition thinking that they themselves are spared the same fate.

Post: #47

(01-19-2016 09:40 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 11:07 AM)Parzival Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 09:19 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  It's all in the context. Imagine if a bunch of Dutch people were transplanted into Southern Africa.

They had be and some are still there. But no longer in charge.

I know, I was being sarcastic... You Germans are always so serious

I wasn't sure, so I chose the more serious answer.

Post: #48

Quote:Portland Community College has designated April "Whiteness History Month" (WHM), an "educational project" exploring how the "construct of whiteness" creates racial inequality.

So, for May, an in-depth look at the Indian caste system, still alive and well?

No?

Post: #49

I was honestly googling some shit about Hillary Clinton's lying. Dinesh D'souza came up; a fellow Indian dude but definitely red pill.

He had a "discourse" in a college against a white liberal student that felt ashamed because of his privilege. Dinesh destroyed this guy so bad that any future outlook of this guy getting any pussy likely dried up. He might be my new hero (pending a little time in the gym) and I can't wait till his new Hillary hit piece is out.

Definitely relevant to this thread.

Post: #50

That kid was so well spoken and articulate too.