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Berlin Winter 2015 data sheet
I spent two months in Berlin for the winter. 85% of my time was spent with my main, but the other 15% I made sure to game very hard and explore the cities best night/day gaming venues. As there is already a berlin data sheet, I’ll focus more on winter aspects, neighborhood breakdowns, best places to game when it’s cold etc.

The city: Berlin during the winter is a cold and gloomy looking place. Most days it rains, but never last longer than an hour or so. It’s always grey outside and this definitely has an effect on people out and about. Most are just trying to get to where they need to go, head down and power walking. I combated this greyness by running, listening to upbeat music often and constantly keeping a smirk/smile on my face. I read this can subconsciously have a positive effect on your attitude and it really worked for me. Most of my dates would comment how much they liked my upbeat energy and always-happy demeanor. In my opinion the city was filled with hipsters that are struggling artist, in between jobs, working at a “startup” or discovering him or herself.
Public transit is one the best in Europe. Trains, trams, high-speed rails and busses go all over the city and run on time. They have a weird trust system going on which I happily took advantage of by not buying a train ticket. You have random searches and if caught fined 60 euros, but now the BVG has an app to purchase tickets on the go. Purchase or don’t at your own risk. Trains run 24 hours a day from Friday to Sunday. Comes in handy when drunk trying to get home with a bang. Don’t bother taking taxis unless you are about that high bankroll life as a 10-minute ride can easily cost you 30 euros. Uber is pretty much non-existent here as it just calls a normal cab for you.

Food: When you're not gaming a player has to eat, I definitely recommend you try some of the many foods at the christmas markets. German sausages are pretty good and cheap. I never really knew the names but just got the ones for 2.5 euros.
Glühwein is a must for the cold days out. Many people will grab one and just walk around sipping it or stand at one of the many stands chatting. Hot chocolate is also a favorite of mine.
Roasted almonds are delicious and a few other meals I had that I can't remember the name of right now.

--Mitte: This is the center of berlin, literally. Lots of tourist in this area, fancy restaurants, cafes, clothing stores and bars. This place is constantly packed even during the winter, and this district I noticed the most fly women always wearing heels/fancy boots. Lots of old people as well. Friedrichstraße is a great street to day game. Flats most expensive in the city.

--Prenzlauerberg: This is very close to the center (mitte) and is a chill district. Most know it for quiet family area. I lived here and definitely appreciated the quietness of this area after a long night of drinking/partying. Lots of kids around, grocery stores, chill cafes etc. Not the best place to game, EXCEPT for the grocery stores like Rewe or Kaisers. Went here on a weekday and it was constantly filled with honeys taking their time to shop. Flats are reasonably priced here, especially for the location.

--Kreuzberg: This is definitely the place to be on the weekend if you’re into bars/getting wasted. Hipster district filled with lots of Turkish people. Plethora of bars on every corner. Lots of young people looking to have a good time. Lots of foreign women from all over come here on the weekend. Area was a little dirty for my taste, but like I said before, definitely the place to be on the weekends or any day of the week for running bar game. Not uncommon to see groups of Turkish dudes brawling in the streets, take a quick look and keep it moving! Flats are a little expensive in my taste, but location you can’t beat!

--Neukölln: Hipster central, okay area. Few bars, not too many places to day game. Nothing really special about this area in my opinion. Great place to stay if you find a decent flat rate.

--Wedding: A dirtier, less gentrified version of Neukölln. Recently becoming more gentrified due to hipsters as always. Many Germans refer to this place as the ghetto, which in no way reflects the ghettos in say the U.S., Paris etc. Food and flats over here are cheap, but not near the center and in my opinion only stay out here if you traveling on that struggle life bankroll. Also I don’t recommend buying “trees” over here, it’s shit and they have been known to rob people in this neighborhood. Here you’ll also see a lot of alternative type bitches, dreadlocks, colored hair, and nasty ass piercings.

Winter culture and women: Like stated above, winters in Berlin are grey, but the positive aspects of that are the Christmas markets and influx of girls visiting from all over the world looking to party and get fucked.

--German/foreign women living in berlin for a while: All the German women I approached or went out on dates with were initially cold, more cold than usual. All stated it’s the weather that gets them like this. Now German women are cold as fuck to strangers, but after a few minutes it will melt away. I REPEAT, that cold shoulder bullshit will stop after a few minutes just push through. Strangers don’t talk to strangers here, especially during winter so you have to give them a few minutes to register that. I always started with some indirect opener like I’m lost or do you know a good restaurant around. None of them can hold a conversation (that famous coldness), but will still be interested. I found that in the U.S 3-5 minutes builds enough of an attraction to get the number, Mexico 4-6 minutes and Germany was more like 7-10 minutes. I’d rate my game level as slightly above average.

My advice would be to have that cool fun demeanor. All my dates and girls I opened told me later how they loved it and it was refreshing. At the end of the day, all girls want to have fun. I did find the German women somewhat boring, but very punctual and rarely flakes. I’d say out of 12 or so dates, only one German chick softed flake, by suggesting another day (granted she worked overnight shift). Also if they say they’ll do something you can almost always count on them to do it. Most are slim, somewhat tall and have no problem paying for their drinks and yours as well. I’m not a fan of this hipster girl style of sneakers and stuff during the winter. Also most will rarely wear make up on first date. Don’t’ talk about refugees or feminism. When the convo would lead that way, I would do the same routine: Put my hand over their hand and tell them “ I really don’t give a shit about any of that stuff” smile and the topic would close. Also if German women want to fuck, you’ll know it quick. If she loses interest she’ll let you know which a guy like myself can appreciate. Every girl speaks english fluently or at least conversational.

Lastly: Don’t ask a chick who speaks fluently German where is she from, a lot of Asians, blacks and Indian chicks got offended when I did, suggesting they weren’t German in heritage tard. Oh and all the girls are bisexual Banana

Online dating: This will most likely be the bread and butter for a few of you players.

--Tinder: The way to go for both short and long term stays. Swipe to your hearts content, but know this. If you match with a honey in Berlin during the winter it’s a 50/50 chance she is a tourist. MESSAGE HER ASAP! I waited after a match only to see the next day the girl is 1000+ miles away. Like I said these girls come here to take pictures, drink, party and get fucked, even if they say the typical not looking for ONS. Don’t be deterred if she is with her friend and they both want to come out. Set up night/bar date and get that bang.

--Okcupid: Good for pipelining, but be warned. If the woman you’re chatting with has been on there longer than 4 weeks, there is a 95% chance you will never meet her in person. Unlike tinder most of these women are locals, who are just looking for a chat buddy to pass the time in their boring lives. Every single chica I met and or fucked off Okcupid was on there for less than 3 weeks. Great for long-term stay (2 weeks+) not so much for short term.

--Happn: This app, in my opinion, is one that you use only when you are bored on the train and ran out of swipes on tinder and your Okcupid bitches are out with their boyfriends/husbands. Most chicks haven’t been active in days or weeks. But if you catch one who is a recent user, pretty high chance of getting at least a date that week. I think a lot of the profiles are fake, but that’s convo for another day. Matched with a chica and we went out the night before I left, almost got the bang, but she threw up a lot of LMR.

--Craigslist: Only good for long term stays. Expect 90% of the women to be fat or pros. Best way is to make your own profile and see who contacts you. Usually it’s fat chicks or uglies, but every now and then it’s a chick looking to hook up on the fly. Went out on a date with a chick from here, she took me to star wars premier, but ended up being bat shit crazy.

--Instagram: For you new age players. I messaged maybe 50 to 100 girls on instagram that were in the area. One gave me her number to hang out, no bang, the others that responded left the city as they were vacationing or went ghost after I suggested meeting up. Could be a good tool if you're experienced but in my opinion it's a super low return on investment

Day game areas

--Potsdamer platz specifically around the Sony center and the tiny Xmas markets close by. Lots of fly women walking around, as this is close in Mitte.

--The mall of Berlin: Huge mall, filled with tourist and locals alike. Girls walking slow on their phones are easy pickings. Match their pace and game accordingly.

--Alexanderplatz: Christmas Markets and winter fair located here. Buy yourself some Glühwein and walk around approaching the many tourist and locals. The ice skating rink is also a great place to meet women. Many young people line up outside the rink to watch others skate as they are too embarrassed to try it. I had fun and was getting shit tons of stares and smiles while skating. Went with a date so not much opportunity to approach here.

--Mitte Friedrichstraße: Area with the fly honeys. In my opinion the most attractive girls in Berlin were on this street. The Starbucks across from the train station “Friedrichstraße” is money, IF you can find somewhere to sit. Also check point charlie is a great place to game. Just ask one of the many girls walking by to take a photo of you, invite them in on a selfie (they love this one) then ask where they are from and transition from there.

--Trains: surprisingly a good place to game if you’re heading across the city. Be prepared for the cold shoulder and higher chance of rejection as her stop could be approaching or she could feel embarrassed that you, a stranger, approached her while other people are around watching. I would: politely ask can I sit next to her (they never say no) then either open about what they are listening to, type of shoes or some ugly ass piercing.

--Grocery stores: In my opinion one of the best places during the winter. Met so many chicks in here. Best times are Sunday through Wednesday after 4:00 P.M. I used the same opener about looking for some seasoning in German and transitioned from there. Girl’s shields were lowest here.

Night game venues
As berlin is filled with a plethora of bars and electronic dance clubs, I’ll put some of my favorite areas that I can confirm the quality and quantity of honeys in the venue.

--Tube station Club: located on friedrichstraße. This place is notoriously known for rejecting people. Just dress to impress and you should be fine. This club stood out to me for the fact that every girl in the joint was dressed to the T (High heels, tight dresses etc.). None of that hipster sneakers and ripped jean swag going on in this place. Ratios were constant 3 girls to 2 guys. Usually free if have name on guest list via Facebook. Otherwise it's 10 euros. Good for Friday & Saturday nights. No guys approach here so this place is a gold mine for a player. Music is pop and mainstream hip-hop. Drinks a little over priced.

--Ritter butzke Club: Electronic club that is free with guest list otherwise 8 euros. Enjoyed this place on Christmas day. The honeys were typical hipster electronic loving girls, but quality was good and the girls were very friendly. I got approached a few times. This place has great lights on the ceiling and lots of dark areas to take a girl to and get a little more personal. Atmosphere is very chill so you can dance the night away without getting super sweaty balls. Drinks reasonably priced. In terms of types expect a lot of alternative hipster girls, dreadlocks, shaved heads, piercings, but some of them were real lookers. Like I said in here if a chick likes you she’ll let it be known. Good for Christmas Eve and Christmas day, Fridays and Saturdays.

--Bar 3: Had two separate tinder dates tell me this place is hook up central. Nice little bar in Prenzlauerberg, very off the radar full of pseudo intellectual chicks that can still dress nice. Everyone sits around talking to their respective parties until about 3 am when random people cross eyes and pick who they are going home with. Went here with one of my tinder dates and saw it happen up close. She got jealous as this older milf started to flirt with me while my date was there. I recommend this place on any weekday. Ratios are always good and you’ll often see 2-3 girls in a group looking bored. Just go over they will welcome the company.

--Sharlie Cheen bar: My favorite bar in all of berlin. Has a huge population of foreign women not from Germany and usually packed every weekend. The girls here dress to impress and the staff is super cool/attentive. In terms of game the downside is that it’s groups and lots of them, but if you’re like me and roll solo dolo then the bar area in the front is golden. Every set of girls I opened were nice and talkative. Back area is great if you’re rolling with a group of guys because more times than not you’ll be sitting next to a group of girls. Send drinks over and get the game started.

--Matrix club: Stay the fuck away from this place. It’s literally a sausage fest with ratios after midnight approaching 8 guys to 1 girl. Cover is like 8 to 10 euros and drinks overpriced. I would only ONLY go here if you are staying at the hostel (Plus berlin) across the street and don’t have the willpower to walk more than 100 meters.

I went to a few great bars where the ratios were off the chain, but sadly don’t remember the names. If I do I’ll update data sheet.

Race/Racism
As a black American race crossed my mind when I initially got here. I can say I experienced no racism whatsoever in the two months that I spent in Berlin. Every German agrees there is no city like Berlin in Germany and everyone is more open minded/chill. The biggest factors for game success here I noticed where: Style, height, facial attractiveness, country of origin, perceived bankroll and race in that order. I did notice some unfair treatment to (poor looking) Africans, Turkish and Indian dudes, who got turned away from clubs that I got into no problem. I made sure whenever I went out, I was dressed as nice as possible and the women definitely took notice. Outside of Berlin, race may be a different factor, but in Berlin I saw Asian dudes, Hispanic dudes and some Turkish dudes killing it with cute chicks. They all had the same thing in common, dressed really nice, seem to carry themselves well in public and seemed to be fun people to be around. For all my black/Asian/Hispanic Americans thinking of visiting this place I say go for it, you are well received.

Final thoughts:
Berlin is an awesome city to visit in the winter with it’s own culture depending on what area you’re in. With regards to safety, I traveled to almost every neighborhood in the big B during all times of the night and never once felt afraid. A few times I got into a staring contest with some wanna be looking Turkish gangsters, but I went back to my phone and nothing happened. I would recommend if you were gaming their women to keep an open eye to your surroundings. Most guys are cool, but the few who are not have no problem starting some shit and their 4-8 buddies will jump you, so unless you’re little dark, just be chilling.

I was definitely pleased with my time there. Banged 4 new chicks (1 Swedish, 1 Danish, 1 German and 1 American) and went out on many more dates. I found myself bored of German women after a few weeks. A funny thing I noticed not being from such a cold grey environment was that my libido seemed to be lowered after two weeks, I combated this by stopping the fap and it balanced itself out after a few days so be cautious of that. Otherwise if you’re in the mood for a winter adventure I highly recommend this city! Any questions/comments asked below, I’m out!

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Thanks for the handy data sheet and congrats on the bangs, but I honestly find it hard to believe that any woman values dress style and height more than facial aesthetics? Sure, a few extra inches and nice clothes can transform a man a couple of points on the rating scale but if they're starting from a 3/10 to begin with, it ain't going to help much. You can put lip stick on a pig but in the end it's still a pig.
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by hipster sneakers... do you mean these?

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(01-02-2016 12:51 AM)Adrenaline Wrote:  Thanks for the handy data sheet and congrats on the bangs, but I honestly find it hard to believe that any woman values dress style and height more than facial aesthetics? Sure, a few extra inches and nice clothes can transform a man a couple of points on the rating scale but if they're starting from a 3/10 to begin with, it ain't going to help much. You can put lip stick on a pig but in the end it's still a pig.

I wouldn't look at it as a one trumps all. More of like a combination of variables equating to attraction: S * H * F * G = bang. (style X height X facial aesthetics X game). If you have a lot of one it's okay to have a little of another.

(01-02-2016 07:16 AM)NextStop100 Wrote:  by hipster sneakers... do you mean these?

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Yup, that's about right!

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Finally!! I've been waiting for this sheet to drop. Great work, Coverdoc. +1 from me.

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Interesting write up. Where are you headed to next?
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Staying stateside for a while, school is calling. Maybe will have a quick little adventure for spring break to P.R or (insert city in mexico).

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Speaking of hipster sneakers, when I moved to London I was surprised at how many people wore Nike and Adidas sneakers (50%+), and always the black ones with white swoosh. I wasn't sure if this is a new trend or has been ongoing for a while. In my home city Melbourne people tended to look down on anything branded and associate Nike in particular with sweat shop exploitation. So wearing Nike meant you were some backward brand slave dickhead and basically the antithesis of being a hipster. But maybe European hipsters don't care ?

Can anyone confirm if this trend has caught on back in Australia (haven't been there since 2013) or still the same attitude towards branded sneakers ?
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Thanks man. I'm impressed that you could maintain a positive attitude for so long! I'm on a strict diet of German girls only, because I'm working on my language skills. Most have short hair, are over-entitled, and are masculine in nature. That said I'm allowing myself to maintain a select few foreign girls, which are quite plentiful here. The local universities are worthy gaming grounds.
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Amazing report!

In a world of declining game for all, I truly believe than Berlin is still a big gem on the crown of big game cities such as Montreal, Manhattan and Helsinki.

The pure race german girls will always be a great hunting prize, for as long as they exist.
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(01-02-2016 02:10 PM)churros Wrote:  Thanks man. I'm impressed that you could maintain a positive attitude for so long! I'm on a strict diet of German girls only, because I'm working on my language skills. Most have short hair, are over-entitled, and are masculine in nature. That said I'm allowing myself to maintain a select few foreign girls, which are quite plentiful here. The local universities are worthy gaming grounds.

In terms of german girls, I originally thought the same, but not every girl in Berlin is into that hipster swag shit. I think my style is a mix of GQ and Hipster, but I like my girls to be feminine. Anytime I went out and some chick had an entitlement complex or was too manly I ejected quickly. I never once received a harsh rejection like I heard that German girls are famous for. That's why for all you players thinking of visiting, do yourself a favor and only go after the 7s or better (6.5 if drunk Whip). The uglier girls in this city have shitty attitudes and honestly won't be easier to pull than the higher quality dames. A lot of them seem angry at the world.

I didn't find it hard to stay positive. I only went after girls I found attractive and that smiled/laughed at my jokes. This made for some great times with a lot of women even if it didn't lead to a bang. When feeling down, go for a run and watch the stares you'll get from the women walking by (there is no work out culture here). Also reading forum lounge, watching Seinfeld and Fresh Prince just made me into a chill happy camper.

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how old are you OP?
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Nice data sheet. Berlin is always a good time. So much opportunity.
So little time. The next step is to find a way to live here for about a year
and explore Poland and Czech Republic.

I know an American girl who came to visit and liked it so much she applied for a job here
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(01-02-2016 04:46 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  how old are you OP?

Mid 20s

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(01-01-2016 11:51 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  I spent two months in Berlin for the winter. 85% of my time was spent with my main, but the other 15% I made sure to game very hard and explore the cities best night/day gaming venues. As there is already a berlin data sheet, I’ll focus more on winter aspects, neighborhood breakdowns, best places to game when it’s cold etc.

The city: Berlin during the winter is a cold and gloomy looking place. Most days it rains, but never last longer than an hour or so. It’s always grey outside and this definitely has an effect on people out and about. Most are just trying to get to where they need to go, head down and power walking. I combated this greyness by running, listening to upbeat music often and constantly keeping a smirk/smile on my face. I read this can subconsciously have a positive effect on your attitude and it really worked for me. Most of my dates would comment how much they liked my upbeat energy and always-happy demeanor. In my opinion the city was filled with hipsters that are struggling artist, in between jobs, working at a “startup” or discovering him or herself.
Public transit is one the best in Europe. Trains, trams, high-speed rails and busses go all over the city and run on time. They have a weird trust system going on which I happily took advantage of by not buying a train ticket. You have random searches and if caught fined 60 euros, but now the BVG has an app to purchase tickets on the go. Purchase or don’t at your own risk. Trains run 24 hours a day from Friday to Sunday. Comes in handy when drunk trying to get home with a bang. Don’t bother taking taxis unless you are about that high bankroll life as a 10-minute ride can easily cost you 30 euros. Uber is pretty much non-existent here as it just calls a normal cab for you.

Food: When you're not gaming a player has to eat, I definitely recommend you try some of the many foods at the christmas markets. German sausages are pretty good and cheap. I never really knew the names but just got the ones for 2.5 euros.
Glühwein is a must for the cold days out. Many people will grab one and just walk around sipping it or stand at one of the many stands chatting. Hot chocolate is also a favorite of mine.
Roasted almonds are delicious and a few other meals I had that I can't remember the name of right now.

--Mitte: This is the center of berlin, literally. Lots of tourist in this area, fancy restaurants, cafes, clothing stores and bars. This place is constantly packed even during the winter, and this district I noticed the most fly women always wearing heels/fancy boots. Lots of old people as well. Friedrichstraße is a great street to day game. Flats most expensive in the city.

--Prenzlauerberg: This is very close to the center (mitte) and is a chill district. Most know it for quiet family area. I lived here and definitely appreciated the quietness of this area after a long night of drinking/partying. Lots of kids around, grocery stores, chill cafes etc. Not the best place to game, EXCEPT for the grocery stores like Rewe or Kaisers. Went here on a weekday and it was constantly filled with honeys taking their time to shop. Flats are reasonably priced here, especially for the location.

--Kreuzberg: This is definitely the place to be on the weekend if you’re into bars/getting wasted. Hipster district filled with lots of Turkish people. Plethora of bars on every corner. Lots of young people looking to have a good time. Lots of foreign women from all over come here on the weekend. Area was a little dirty for my taste, but like I said before, definitely the place to be on the weekends or any day of the week for running bar game. Not uncommon to see groups of Turkish dudes brawling in the streets, take a quick look and keep it moving! Flats are a little expensive in my taste, but location you can’t beat!

--Neukölln: Hipster central, okay area. Few bars, not too many places to day game. Nothing really special about this area in my opinion. Great place to stay if you find a decent flat rate.

--Wedding: A dirtier, less gentrified version of Neukölln. Recently becoming more gentrified due to hipsters as always. Many Germans refer to this place as the ghetto, which in no way reflects the ghettos in say the U.S., Paris etc. Food and flats over here are cheap, but not near the center and in my opinion only stay out here if you traveling on that struggle life bankroll. Also I don’t recommend buying “trees” over here, it’s shit and they have been known to rob people in this neighborhood. Here you’ll also see a lot of alternative type bitches, dreadlocks, colored hair, and nasty ass piercings.

Winter culture and women: Like stated above, winters in Berlin are grey, but the positive aspects of that are the Christmas markets and influx of girls visiting from all over the world looking to party and get fucked.

--German/foreign women living in berlin for a while: All the German women I approached or went out on dates with were initially cold, more cold than usual. All stated it’s the weather that gets them like this. Now German women are cold as fuck to strangers, but after a few minutes it will melt away. I REPEAT, that cold shoulder bullshit will stop after a few minutes just push through. Strangers don’t talk to strangers here, especially during winter so you have to give them a few minutes to register that. I always started with some indirect opener like I’m lost or do you know a good restaurant around. None of them can hold a conversation (that famous coldness), but will still be interested. I found that in the U.S 3-5 minutes builds enough of an attraction to get the number, Mexico 4-6 minutes and Germany was more like 7-10 minutes. I’d rate my game level as slightly above average.

My advice would be to have that cool fun demeanor. All my dates and girls I opened told me later how they loved it and it was refreshing. At the end of the day, all girls want to have fun. I did find the German women somewhat boring, but very punctual and rarely flakes. I’d say out of 12 or so dates, only one German chick softed flake, by suggesting another day (granted she worked overnight shift). Also if they say they’ll do something you can almost always count on them to do it. Most are slim, somewhat tall and have no problem paying for their drinks and yours as well. I’m not a fan of this hipster girl style of sneakers and stuff during the winter. Also most will rarely wear make up on first date. Don’t’ talk about refugees or feminism. When the convo would lead that way, I would do the same routine: Put my hand over their hand and tell them “ I really don’t give a shit about any of that stuff” smile and the topic would close. Also if German women want to fuck, you’ll know it quick. If she loses interest she’ll let you know which a guy like myself can appreciate. Every girl speaks english fluently or at least conversational.

Lastly: Don’t ask a chick who speaks fluently German where is she from, a lot of Asians, blacks and Indian chicks got offended when I did, suggesting they weren’t German in heritage tard. Oh and all the girls are bisexual Banana

Online dating: This will most likely be the bread and butter for a few of you players.

--Tinder: The way to go for both short and long term stays. Swipe to your hearts content, but know this. If you match with a honey in Berlin during the winter it’s a 50/50 chance she is a tourist. MESSAGE HER ASAP! I waited after a match only to see the next day the girl is 1000+ miles away. Like I said these girls come here to take pictures, drink, party and get fucked, even if they say the typical not looking for ONS. Don’t be deterred if she is with her friend and they both want to come out. Set up night/bar date and get that bang.

--Okcupid: Good for pipelining, but be warned. If the woman you’re chatting with has been on there longer than 4 weeks, there is a 95% chance you will never meet her in person. Unlike tinder most of these women are locals, who are just looking for a chat buddy to pass the time in their boring lives. Every single chica I met and or fucked off Okcupid was on there for less than 3 weeks. Great for long-term stay (2 weeks+) not so much for short term.

--Happn: This app, in my opinion, is one that you use only when you are bored on the train and ran out of swipes on tinder and your Okcupid bitches are out with their boyfriends/husbands. Most chicks haven’t been active in days or weeks. But if you catch one who is a recent user, pretty high chance of getting at least a date that week. I think a lot of the profiles are fake, but that’s convo for another day. Matched with a chica and we went out the night before I left, almost got the bang, but she threw up a lot of LMR.

--Craigslist: Only good for long term stays. Expect 90% of the women to be fat or pros. Best way is to make your own profile and see who contacts you. Usually it’s fat chicks or uglies, but every now and then it’s a chick looking to hook up on the fly. Went out on a date with a chick from here, she took me to star wars premier, but ended up being bat shit crazy.

--Instagram: For you new age players. I messaged maybe 50 to 100 girls on instagram that were in the area. One gave me her number to hang out, no bang, the others that responded left the city as they were vacationing or went ghost after I suggested meeting up. Could be a good tool if you're experienced but in my opinion it's a super low return on investment

Day game areas

--Potsdamer platz specifically around the Sony center and the tiny Xmas markets close by. Lots of fly women walking around, as this is close in Mitte.

--The mall of Berlin: Huge mall, filled with tourist and locals alike. Girls walking slow on their phones are easy pickings. Match their pace and game accordingly.

--Alexanderplatz: Christmas Markets and winter fair located here. Buy yourself some Glühwein and walk around approaching the many tourist and locals. The ice skating rink is also a great place to meet women. Many young people line up outside the rink to watch others skate as they are too embarrassed to try it. I had fun and was getting shit tons of stares and smiles while skating. Went with a date so not much opportunity to approach here.

--Mitte Friedrichstraße: Area with the fly honeys. In my opinion the most attractive girls in Berlin were on this street. The Starbucks across from the train station “Friedrichstraße” is money, IF you can find somewhere to sit. Also check point charlie is a great place to game. Just ask one of the many girls walking by to take a photo of you, invite them in on a selfie (they love this one) then ask where they are from and transition from there.

--Trains: surprisingly a good place to game if you’re heading across the city. Be prepared for the cold shoulder and higher chance of rejection as her stop could be approaching or she could feel embarrassed that you, a stranger, approached her while other people are around watching. I would: politely ask can I sit next to her (they never say no) then either open about what they are listening to, type of shoes or some ugly ass piercing.

--Grocery stores: In my opinion one of the best places during the winter. Met so many chicks in here. Best times are Sunday through Wednesday after 4:00 P.M. I used the same opener about looking for some seasoning in German and transitioned from there. Girl’s shields were lowest here.

Night game venues
As berlin is filled with a plethora of bars and electronic dance clubs, I’ll put some of my favorite areas that I can confirm the quality and quantity of honeys in the venue.

--Tube station Club: located on friedrichstraße. This place is notoriously known for rejecting people. Just dress to impress and you should be fine. This club stood out to me for the fact that every girl in the joint was dressed to the T (High heels, tight dresses etc.). None of that hipster sneakers and ripped jean swag going on in this place. Ratios were constant 3 girls to 2 guys. Usually free if have name on guest list via Facebook. Otherwise it's 10 euros. Good for Friday & Saturday nights. No guys approach here so this place is a gold mine for a player. Music is pop and mainstream hip-hop. Drinks a little over priced.

--Ritter butzke Club: Electronic club that is free with guest list otherwise 8 euros. Enjoyed this place on Christmas day. The honeys were typical hipster electronic loving girls, but quality was good and the girls were very friendly. I got approached a few times. This place has great lights on the ceiling and lots of dark areas to take a girl to and get a little more personal. Atmosphere is very chill so you can dance the night away without getting super sweaty balls. Drinks reasonably priced. In terms of types expect a lot of alternative hipster girls, dreadlocks, shaved heads, piercings, but some of them were real lookers. Like I said in here if a chick likes you she’ll let it be known. Good for Christmas Eve and Christmas day, Fridays and Saturdays.

--Bar 3: Had two separate tinder dates tell me this place is hook up central. Nice little bar in Prenzlauerberg, very off the radar full of pseudo intellectual chicks that can still dress nice. Everyone sits around talking to their respective parties until about 3 am when random people cross eyes and pick who they are going home with. Went here with one of my tinder dates and saw it happen up close. She got jealous as this older milf started to flirt with me while my date was there. I recommend this place on any weekday. Ratios are always good and you’ll often see 2-3 girls in a group looking bored. Just go over they will welcome the company.

--Sharlie Cheen bar: My favorite bar in all of berlin. Has a huge population of foreign women not from Germany and usually packed every weekend. The girls here dress to impress and the staff is super cool/attentive. In terms of game the downside is that it’s groups and lots of them, but if you’re like me and roll solo dolo then the bar area in the front is golden. Every set of girls I opened were nice and talkative. Back area is great if you’re rolling with a group of guys because more times than not you’ll be sitting next to a group of girls. Send drinks over and get the game started.

--Matrix club: Stay the fuck away from this place. It’s literally a sausage fest with ratios after midnight approaching 8 guys to 1 girl. Cover is like 8 to 10 euros and drinks overpriced. I would only ONLY go here if you are staying at the hostel (Plus berlin) across the street and don’t have the willpower to walk more than 100 meters.

I went to a few great bars where the ratios were off the chain, but sadly don’t remember the names. If I do I’ll update data sheet.

Race/Racism
As a black American race crossed my mind when I initially got here. I can say I experienced no racism whatsoever in the two months that I spent in Berlin. Every German agrees there is no city like Berlin in Germany and everyone is more open minded/chill. The biggest factors for game success here I noticed where: Style, height, facial attractiveness, country of origin, perceived bankroll and race in that order. I did notice some unfair treatment to (poor looking) Africans, Turkish and Indian dudes, who got turned away from clubs that I got into no problem. I made sure whenever I went out, I was dressed as nice as possible and the women definitely took notice. Outside of Berlin, race may be a different factor, but in Berlin I saw Asian dudes, Hispanic dudes and some Turkish dudes killing it with cute chicks. They all had the same thing in common, dressed really nice, seem to carry themselves well in public and seemed to be fun people to be around. For all my black/Asian/Hispanic Americans thinking of visiting this place I say go for it, you are well received.

Final thoughts:
Berlin is an awesome city to visit in the winter with it’s own culture depending on what area you’re in. With regards to safety, I traveled to almost every neighborhood in the big B during all times of the night and never once felt afraid. A few times I got into a staring contest with some wanna be looking Turkish gangsters, but I went back to my phone and nothing happened. I would recommend if you were gaming their women to keep an open eye to your surroundings. Most guys are cool, but the few who are not have no problem starting some shit and their 4-8 buddies will jump you, so unless you’re little dark, just be chilling.

I was definitely pleased with my time there. Banged 4 new chicks (1 Swedish, 1 Danish, 1 German and 1 American) and went out on many more dates. I found myself bored of German women after a few weeks. A funny thing I noticed not being from such a cold grey environment was that my libido seemed to be lowered after two weeks, I combated this by stopping the fap and it balanced itself out after a few days so be cautious of that. Otherwise if you’re in the mood for a winter adventure I highly recommend this city! Any questions/comments asked below, I’m out!

-CD

Great report, been waiting for this one.
Are you still in berlin?
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did you roll solo to clubs? did any of your bangs come from clubbing?
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Great datasheet! Came in a very handy time as I have been planning on going to Berlin next winter.

The shitty girls probably are like that because they have to compete with the german beauties Tongue
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I left Germany this past Saturday.

Only time I went to night clubs was with girls. My night club game is weak. No matter the country I've only been able to get make outs. With that in mind, it's possible to pull same night, the women were very direct inside the clubs I went, even with my dates standing next to me.

Yeah german girls with the worst attitudes tended to be ugly feminist types, but like I said I dodnt encounter much of this. I went in with a specific positive fun vibe going and any chick that wasn't on my wavelength I instantly nexted or ignored.

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I've heard good things about pulling in Berlin even from friends who aren't exactly game aware. Overall its a good city for pickup but unless you're in the ''art scene'' the quality can be lackluster. Whats the EDM scene like there now? That and the history is why I'll go Big Grin
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(01-04-2016 03:31 PM)Nowak Wrote:  I've heard good things about pulling in Berlin even from friends who aren't exactly game aware. Overall its a good city for pickup but unless you're in the ''art scene'' the quality can be lackluster. Whats the EDM scene like there now? That and the history is why I'll go Big Grin

Quality wasn't that bad for me. I don't really like the artsy chicks that much and if you try hard enough you'll never really see them(in some areas). A lot of girls are in between. When they saw me dressed nice, they'd usually get the hint and our next date will be dressed nice as well.

EDM scene was straight up amazing. One of the reasons I chose Berlin. Almost every other night club is EDM. Some of the times I went, I had no desire to talk to bitches, just get a beer and dance all night to the music. Funny enough, when these hipster chicks see you doing your own thing, they love to come over and grab your vibe. When you don't want them, they come Dodgy

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I've been in Berlin since the 29th. a few comments on the OP:

I've definitely noticed a switch in the mood and the fact that it's coincided with the climate from when I was last there in July. Like the OP said, people out on the street tend to have this sort of head bowed down, introverted posture. It started snowing yesterday, so while the power walking thing happens, it's a mix between that and keeping a good tread on the powder. Undecided

Having a hometown with pretty outmoded and slow public transport, I was once again blown away by BVG's network and S-Bahn. Again, commuters tend do have that subdued expression typical of big cities, but it's also a German thing. Having said that, I did come across at least a few visible IOIs on PT -- as well as up in the street. I opened one of these on a packed Warchauer Straße S-Bahn on early New Year's day morning. From near Frankfurt, she was here visiting friends and was a good 8, classic Germanic looks. I invited her for drinks at my host's place when we got to my station but she must've misunderstood my question and I regretted not pushing through.

I've found that Berlin in autumn/winter tends to be more German than not, in nature as well as public chatter. We're talking about one of the world's big tourist cities, practically on par with London, NYC, LA, Paris and Barcelona.

Thus the tourist crowd was in force as ever, although not as much as in summer. I don't know to what extent this persists year-round (as with say Barcelona), I'd like to come back in spring and autumn to find out. You will come across many Hispanophones and Lusophones.

Because it's such an international city -- skin colour and accent don't exactly win you points for exoticness. In this regard I probably felt at a bit of a disadvantage as compared to say France, Scandinavia, or a second tier European city.

You'll see English words everywhere on signs, ads and media, as well as it being spoken on the street. Many of these people obviously don't speak it natively. A number of people I've spoken to have commented on the fact that "everyone in Berlin" speaks English, be that the case with the hundreds of thousands of tourists who coast through without ever speaking a word of German. A fellow RVFer I travelled with here thought otherwise. Even sticking to a lot of tourist spots, he mentioned how he could, I paraphrase, come across many locals who couldn't speak a lick of English.

Maybe I've been a bit more observant this visit, but I've noticed a huge increase in Slavic speakers here. Mostly Russian and Ukrainian, some Polish. Most of the former are either couples of all ages of families -- a few single men. I've gamed a single Russian and a Ukrainian at my hostel.

I haven't noticed a huge influx of Arab and other Middle Eastern men. Notwithstanding the content on the EE section on the forum, I really haven't noticed public instances of them catcalling women or other forms of harassment or general misbehaviour -- littering, pissing in public, leaving WC's in a mess. I will admit that part of me was on the look out for these things. Nor are they serious competition game-wise. It's kind of hard to when you're dressed in tracksuit bottoms, sport jackets and baseball caps and loitering outside the Bahnhöfe.

I can't comment much on nightgame as I haven't gone out much. I'd say I've been more of a daytime-oriented person this time compared to having gone out most nights in July. I found Matrix and Tresor to be full of tourists in July, haven't seen much evidence that that has abated in winter. I'd go to clubs with lots of Germans if you want to game there. Sisyphos was mad fun but I left early -- too damn cold.
There was a hip hop/house venue in Kreuzberg I visited in July that was packed with talent. I opened a Berliner there who was a good shoe-in for Cate Blanchett -- I stupidly didn't # close. PM me for the club's name.

I think bars are your best bet for night game pulling. I've found many clubs to be too ill-placed logistically, and the music tends to that much of a draw to focus on game. I've come across a few stunners at a bar on Rosenthaler Platz who were obviously local. I was with a group then so it was tricky to approach.

Online game has been extremely hit-and-miss for me. I started off with a set of photos on Tinder that's seen me reasonable success in EE and even in my hometown and Scotland. My match results with them have been very lacklustre, maybe 8 of them, in the 6-7 range. I opened all. Of them, half never responded to my opener only one of them eventually converted into a number and a possible date for tonight.

Happn and Bumble have equally disappointing. Ironically, I've found much more hotties there. Many of them are obviously foreign. The only match I've gotten there was an Estonian SIF on Bumble. I'll have to rely on IRL until I get better photos.

I'm not sure why Berlin has been pretty disappointing in this regard. I've worked on my photogenicity and my most recent photos, like I said, have done fairly well universally, and I'd have thought I'd have done well with Berlin being as tolerant as it is. Yet I'm getting more IRL attraction.
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@JWLZG i've tried pipelining on tinder for when i go to berlin tomorrow but i am getting nowhere compared to poland or other EE Countries. Let's hope i get more success from daygame/nightgame
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(01-06-2016 11:17 AM)lugubrius Wrote:  @JWLZG i've tried pipelining on tinder for when i go to berlin tomorrow but i am getting nowhere compared to poland or other EE Countries. Let's hope i get more success from daygame/nightgame

Something is seriously up when you get way better results in the Anglosphere on Tinder than in Berlin. This is coming from a minority dude of above average looks and height. I'm not an 8+, yes, but I'm above 6.

The RVFer I was here with and I were discussing it briefly, I think the general consensus is daygame>nightgame>online.

Something of note is that I've seen a surprising amount of interracial couples here. It might be ironic commentary that 4 of these were whilst I was walking away from the Führerbunker -- the dudes were black, Turkish, Arab and white Slavic where the girls were white German. On the rare chance I saw a an Asian dude with a white girl -- they were foreign.

I'm here for a couple for days, so give me a yell.
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(01-06-2016 12:38 PM)JWLZG Wrote:  
(01-06-2016 11:17 AM)lugubrius Wrote:  @JWLZG i've tried pipelining on tinder for when i go to berlin tomorrow but i am getting nowhere compared to poland or other EE Countries. Let's hope i get more success from daygame/nightgame

Something is seriously up when you get way better results in the Anglosphere on Tinder than in Berlin. This is coming from a minority dude of above average looks and height. I'm not an 8+, yes, but I'm above 6.

The RVFer I was here with and I were discussing it briefly, I think the general consensus is daygame>nightgame>online.

Great posts bro. Here is the thing i've come to realize about Berlin. I killed it online as well as during day game. The thing that I think worked in my favor is that i'm slim, 5'10(5'11.5 with the good shoesBanana) and I have long hair. Artsy/hipster bitches love that shit. Also got my teeth straightened last year so now I smile like a mofo and always get compliments on how nice my smile is. Literally every single one of my 10+ dates all said they love my smile and my style. I think this makes for the perfect combination that tweaks a lot of the Berliners interest. Try taking some artsy photos with you having fun, i'm sure your results will improve.

Everything else you touched on was exactly what I experienced, except the lack of exotic factor. I found girls being pleasantly surprised by my voice and my "strong american accent." Every chick I day gamed said they loved my american voice, mix in some terms like "fuck that shit" and it was game on. Tourist and Berliners alike just want an escape from the everyday boredom of winter. Like I said before, i just went out with one idea in my head: "have fun, be adventurous."

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Good feedback on Berlin, I have been living in Cologne for 5 years but have never made it to Berlin. Need to check it out.

Maybe ill do a "data sheet" on here.
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