Post: #1

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-ameri...09f622f7e3

Quote:RICH Wall Street executives had it coming when they were swindled by a ring of buxom strip club workers, one of the women involved claims.

The curvaceous crooks at the Scores strip club in New York specifically targeted wealthy ­“a***holes,” men who were usually married and who deserved to be drugged and fleeced, former dancer — and now conspiracy and fraud defendant — Roselyn Keo tells New York magazine.

Interestingly, when men point out the personal or clothing circumstances of women are relevant to whether or not they get raped, they are howled down. Men who point out things like this are "victim blaming".

Quote:Keo and accused mastermind Samantha Barbash preyed on clients who treated them badly to get revenge, Keo said.

“That’s why I think we got greedy. Because of the amount of stress we had to endure. We’re just like, ‘You know what — these people are f*****g pissing me off. Just for that, I’m going to max out his credit card, like a penalty. You’re going to be left with a zero balance. Zero credit line. Just for being annoying,’” Keo told the magazine.

Bad day at the office? Rip off ten grand from one of your customers. It's sad the thirst is so strong that Scores probably won't suffer a moment's downturn for this shit. I mean, take a look at what was on offer:



I think you'd need a good few stiff drinks in you to even be capable of getting stiff anywhere else with that around.

Quote:The vindictive vixens preyed on doctors and Wall Street executives, spiking their drinks with MDMA and ketamine, causing them to black out.

Vixen. Not criminals. But that's the MSM for you.

Quote:“It sounds so bad to say that we were, like, drugging people. But it was, like, normal,” Keo said.

'It sounds so bad to say that we were, like, dropping date rape drugs in girls' drinks. But it was, like, normal.'

Quote:When the men called the club to complain about their credit card bills — including one totalling $US135,000 ($186,000) — Barbash would turn on the charm, Keo said.

“You were so happy. Don’t you remember? You were tipping everyone,” she would say, according to Keo — adding that the men usually didn’t call police for fear their spouses or bosses would find out.

The strippers felt no guilt about conning clients who disrespected them or made sexually crude requests, Keo said.

“There’s something extra satisfying about persuading a man who thinks you’re trash to spend his time and money on you,” she dished.

This is hamstering, of course, but at a high RPM. The man doesn't think she's trash. The man doesn't think she's anything but entertainment. And the man gets to go back to a clean life once he's done spending money. The stripper does not.

Quote:“Preferably so much that in the end, they hate themselves. It’s like, ‘Who doesn’t have any self-respect now, mother­f***er?’

Uhhhh...I might be paying for you to take your gear off, but at the end of the day you're the one lowering yourself to do that. So I think the answer, as with the entire article really, is you.

Quote:Her scam fell apart last year after New Jersey doctor Zyad Younan claimed he’d been drugged when he racked up a $US135,000 bill at Scores. A federal DEA investigation confirmed he was telling the truth.

Barbash, Keo and two other strippers — Karina Pascucci and Marsi Rosen — pleaded guilty in the scheme. Keo is also expected to take a deal and is due in court in February.

Carmine Vitolo, a manager at the Roadhouse NYC Gentleman’s Club in Flushing, was arrested and charged with conspiracy, grand theft and tampering with evidence.

Strange how Zyad Younan didn't have to mope around for five years or so before going to the cops, and didn't have to post his roofie story on the Internet for likes in order to deal with the problem.

Post: #2

I read this article yesterday. It hit close to home because this happened exactly to my buddy.

He and I went out to the Hustler Club in Manhattan this summer, and right away an old Russian broad with awful plastic surgery approached us with one of the hottest Russian girls I've ever seen. They started talking to me and my buddy and forced a drink in our hands. Thereafter they brought another girl for my buddy and convinced him to go upstairs to the Champagne Room. I was occupied by another girl and didn't see him leave. Thinking he was upstairs I waited around for him for over three hours. Texted him multiple times. When he didn't show up I figured he was either having too good of a time to text back or had gone home in a drunken stupor.

I get a frantic call from his wife the next morning saying that he had never come home. She eventually gets a call from a local hospital. Somebody found him passed out on a subway platform. Hospital says he had too much liquor, but talking to him later, he can't remember a damn thing. He says he remembers when the Russian strippers first approached us, then it's all black.

He looked up his credit-card bill the next day. $15,000 charge from the strip club. By this time his wife is absolutely furious with him about what happened. He pleads that he doesn't remember anything. He wants to go to the police, but fears that it will make his wife even more upset. He decides to drop it.

I wish he had gone to the police. He got scammed by one of these whores out of the article, I guarantee it.

Post: #3

Just fucking disgusting those hoes have to go bite the hand that feeds them.

Post: #4

There is no doubt that the owners and managers of the club knew what was going on. This is more proof as to why men should never frequent strip clubs.

Post: #5

(12-29-2015 11:03 AM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote:  He looked up his credit-card bill the next day. $15,000 charge from the strip club. By this time his wife is absolutely furious with him about what happened. He pleads that he doesn't remember anything. He wants to go to the police, but fears that it will make his wife even more upset. He decides to drop it.

15k how many girls in the Phils could he bang? Men need to get their head out of their ass. If they want a good time, take a holiday to Thailand or the Phils and have fun.

Post: #6

One more reason to not go to strip clubs.

I mean, for fucks sake, fire up tinder if you are too lazy to day/night game (I usually am, especially in anglosphere countries). Going to a strip club is like going to a restaurant that will only let you smell the food cause eating it would be illegal. It's total bullshit.

Also, even with "good" girls you don't know, watch your drinks. If you go take a piss at your or her place, finish your drink first. If you don't trust the girl, don't let her mix any cocktails, just open a sealed bottle of beer and don't touch if you left it unattended.

Post: #7

Seriously, fuck strip clubs. The amount of thirst in there and pay 2 play is ridiculous.

Post: #8

It's funny people badmouth places like Thailand for this type of shit and like to whip out the old line of Thai people somehow being less moral. This same line of trash-talking applies to similar places like Cambodian, Philippines, etc, etc. Yet here we have it - same type of thing going on back home only they appear to be a hell of a lot better at it.

One of those things to remember when travel mishaps put you in a place where you want to start judging and stereotyping other cultures. Add in the sheer numbers of poor people in these places and it puts the nonsense lot of them do even further into perspective.

Gnarly story though. I believe I was roofied a few times over the years in Southeast Asia and even once back in the states.

Fortunately I was always broke enough that they didn't get much. And I tend to hide most of my cash real well in my room when traveling.

I never understood these guys who don't say anything because they're afraid the missus will find out. Screw that noise - I'm sounding the alarm! I'd rather deal with the shitstorm at home than let someone manipulate me like (not to mention leaving them free to keep on doing it).

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Rudyard Kipling

Post: #9

Also, the guy who was charged 15k, could have filed a dispute with the bank that issued his credit card before going to the police.

In the US, there is more than one way to fuck a dishonest business that tries to scam you.

Post: #10

(12-29-2015 11:17 AM)BigTony Wrote:  There is no doubt that the owners and managers of the club knew what was going on. This is more proof as to why men should never frequent strip clubs.

Bolded for emphasis. Strip clubs are Venus fly traps for thirsty betas.

Post: #11

Obviously this is a crime and can't be tolerated but if this is all being done to wall street execs? Good. Fuck them. They've been fucking people over and stealing peoples' hard earned money for a long time. I'm sure whatever was stolen from them is less than 1% of the bailout money they each got from the taxpayers anyway. These motherfuckers aren't gonna get any of my sympathy.

Post: #12

(12-29-2015 12:16 PM)eatthishomie Wrote:  

(12-29-2015 11:17 AM)BigTony Wrote:  There is no doubt that the owners and managers of the club knew what was going on. This is more proof as to why men should never frequent strip clubs.

Bolded for emphasis. Strip clubs are Venus fly traps for thirsty betas.

I don't know if I can get on board with that.

Strip clubs can still be good for a laugh. I'd say there's a way to conduct yourself there and there's a way to not conduct yourself. Tip: don't act like every other guy in the place does. Then again, in what location is that not true?

Anyhow, just because your average guy can't handle himself around women these days doesn't mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater and get rid of the centries old pleasure that is paying women to take off their clothes and dance for our entertainment. I mean, some of my fondest memories as a young teen include guys in my small town who were far from "thirsty betas" showing me how to conduct myself at my first private stripper parties. It was almost a rite of passage where I grew up.

As for me, I almost never get lap dances at those places (typically only if a buddy insists on treating me, since that removes the pedestalization on my part), but I've had a lot of fun experiences with guy friends and family members in strip clubs and have even done a bit swooping of the staff. For a time, I'd just go in and play pool all night with tits flying around in the background. Why the hell not?

Don't take it seriously or get carried away and blow a bunch of money, of course. But I think we need more places in Western society where boys can be boys, not less.

Hell, I feel like going out and throwing down a couple bucks for a no-strings-attached face full of boobs right now seeing as we're already talking about it.

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Rudyard Kipling

Post: #13

all of this "never go to strip clubs" talk must be coming from members that haven't been to strip clubs in quebec or other french canadian areas of the country. Hot, friendly girls, low prices, full nudity, zero rules and no more 'shadiness' than any other dingy non-strip club on a saturday night.

The strip club was always an excellent starter to a night of hitting on regular girls. In my mind I'd always think "wildebeast demanding I buy her a drink is asking for the same thing a hotter, more polite, entirely naked sex worker was asking for an hour ago...hilarious". It was a great for mindset to have, ie. "lady, what do you have that the strippers down the street don't?"...ie regular girls either had to be bigger whores or more feminine to beat my french stipper cost benefit calculations.

I always enjoyed the strip club as a 'break from the game'. Like a geisha that is trained to be good company, a quality stripper will drop the sales pitches and just shoot the shit if you signal that you are a paying customer. I found it relaxing to talk to a naked bitch that wasn't simultaneously trying to impress me, impress her friends, 'be seen', shit test, not look like a slut and text orbiters/2am options on her phone constantly, especially when those interactions cost me like $5.

Again though, this is french canadian strip club limited. The American strip clubs I've been to have felt like thinly veiled attempts at prostitution and/or herpes incubators.

Post: #14

They were charged with conspiracy and fraud? Bullshit. Drugging someone is a violent crime. You don't know what preexisting conditions he might have or what drugs he might already be on--you could kill a person with that shit.

NY Penal Law 120.05 Assault in the second degree.
A person is guilty of assault in the second degree when:

5. For a purpose other than lawful medical or therapeutic treatment,
he intentionally causes stupor, unconsciousness or other physical
impairment or injury to another person by administering to him, without
his consent, a drug, substance or preparation capable of producing the
same;

Class D felony. These cunts are getting a big pussy pass.

Post: #15

Never get why some guys do stripclubs. For me a waste of time and money.
There was a case in Germany where a 21 old went to a hooker. It was 75 € but she faked it and charged about 470 €. He went to the police and court found her guilty. She had to pay back 395 €.

Post: #16

(12-29-2015 11:25 AM)ball dont lie Wrote:  

(12-29-2015 11:03 AM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote:  He looked up his credit-card bill the next day. $15,000 charge from the strip club. By this time his wife is absolutely furious with him about what happened. He pleads that he doesn't remember anything. He wants to go to the police, but fears that it will make his wife even more upset. He decides to drop it.

15k how many girls in the Phils could he bang? Men need to get their head out of their ass. If they want a good time, take a holiday to Thailand or the Phils and have fun.

Agreed. He's not really attracted to his wife anymore and just wants to fuck some other strange. I keep telling him to not to go to strip clubs, but he wouldn't listen. I think this was his wake-up call.

Post: #17

(12-29-2015 02:47 PM)Parzival Wrote:  Never get why some guys do stripclubs. For me a waste of time and money.

I think you guys just take it too seriously.

Going to a sports bar or club and drinking beer or overpriced cocktails you can have at home for a fraction of the price could be seen as wasting time and money.

Eating out at a restaurant when you can slap something together in your kitchen could be seen as wasting time and money.

Rounding up your friends to go to a monster truck ralley or a rodeo or a horse race or a hip hop show or whatever event or venue that shows you a good time could be seen as wasting time and money.

So, sure, in that sense, I guess strip clubs are a waste of time and money.

But...if a guy enjoys himself there, then why not go spend his time and money for the shits n' giggles? Not everything in life has to be a 100% practical decision - sometimes you just want to blow off some steam and have a little fun.

And the vast majority of guys do not go to titty bars to get laid, so arguing that it's inneficient doesn't make a lot of sense either. You can pull if you know what you're doing, but it's not really the point. Dr. Howard's description of it as a "break from game" is a more typical description of what goes on in these joints.

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Rudyard Kipling

Post: #18

Strippers with C section scars. Nothing funnier on earth!
Docs really need to cut back on those. Its like they are getting too lazy and knife happy.

Post: #19

Had no idea any woman could be a stripper. Thought a place like scores would have some beauty standards.

Post: #20

(12-29-2015 04:23 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  Had no idea any woman could be a stripper. Thought a place like scores would have some beauty standards.

Some make more money than others. I have seen some so bad they are lucky if they can buy a can of soup after their shift.

Post: #21

(12-29-2015 01:51 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  all of this "never go to strip clubs" talk must be coming from members that haven't been to strip clubs in quebec or other french canadian areas of the country. Hot, friendly girls, low prices, full nudity, zero rules and no more 'shadiness' than any other dingy non-strip club on a saturday night.

The strip club was always an excellent starter to a night of hitting on regular girls. In my mind I'd always think "wildebeast demanding I buy her a drink is asking for the same thing a hotter, more polite, entirely naked sex worker was asking for an hour ago...hilarious". It was a great for mindset to have, ie. "lady, what do you have that the strippers down the street don't?"...ie regular girls either had to be bigger whores or more feminine to beat my french stipper cost benefit calculations.

I always enjoyed the strip club as a 'break from the game'. Like a geisha that is trained to be good company, a quality stripper will drop the sales pitches and just shoot the shit if you signal that you are a paying customer. I found it relaxing to talk to a naked bitch that wasn't simultaneously trying to impress me, impress her friends, 'be seen', shit test, not look like a slut and text orbiters/2am options on her phone constantly, especially when those interactions cost me like $5.

Again though, this is french canadian strip club limited. The American strip clubs I've been to have felt like thinly veiled attempts at prostitution and/or herpes incubators.

I agree. At the two top tier places I can go to, when you see 8's & 9's
strut their stuff in a friendly manner.
If I then go to a standard bar & encounter a bitchy 6.
Well, I'm not going to waste my time with the 6.

Plus, conversation is much more care-free & flirtatious at a strip club,
so I would say I've improved my conversational skills as a result if nothing else.

Post: #22

Was just going to mention this but Ryre beat me to the punch. Drugging drinks is assault.

Post: #23

I have no interest in making a female rich for just taking her clothes off.

I used to go to strip clubs in America when I was younger. What turned me off to them was the entitled attitudes of the women. Sometimes I just wanted to sip on some juice and watch some titties. If I turned a stripper down for a ladies' drink or a lap dance, she would throw a temper tantrum. I once tipped a girl a dollar and she immediately just turned her back on me and walked away.

I would never be caught again in an American strip club. Also, once I made my first trip to S.E. Asia, I lost all interest in Western women.

Post: #24

Low class proles are much more likely to scam their clients like this because they can't rationally consider the consequences of their actions.

I have much more respect for the anonymous club rats who ripped off that NBA player of his gold jewellry than these idiots who steal from clients in their place of work. Relying on the clients being too ashamed to go to the cops is foolish as you don't know who is going to devolve into blind rage and pursue charges no matter the consequences.

I hope they get what's coming to them. The hamstering entitlement to other peoples money because they can mind read that 'they look down on us' is hilarious. Funny how the poor guys don't look down on them enough to be deserving of fleecing.

Post: #25

Strip clubs are something I cannot comprehend as to why they even exist?

Like how can you shell out $20+ dollars just to get teased for sex...masturbating is way better...mindblowing stuff

even in my virgin-beta-no-knowledge-of-game days I never felt thirsty enough the need to visit a strip club

I make sure I give my mates plenty of shit for even entertaining the thought of going to a strip club..they think I'm being a dick, but it is for their own good.

The only time I can see a strip club being useful is if you are trying to close a business deal and you pay a stripper to give lap danced to your client...but other wise they are pointless, and this article proves it.