Post: #1

When you were born, they told you everything was going to be alright.

Your parents loved each other. They lived happily together, in a 3 bedroom house in the suburbs.

You had an ideal childhood. Enjoying life's little pleasures, playing outside, crashing Hot Wheels, and not having a care in the world.

Even school wasn't so bad. You learned at an early age that you were smart. You did well on your standardized tests and excelled in learning. Yet you weren't the smartest of the smart. No one thought you would go on to become the next Einstein.

There was no real pressure on you. Just another average kid in the 80th percentile.

Then third grade rolled along.

The teachers... they called you hyperactive. They called you disruptive.

"I'm sure he has Attention Deficit Disorder", they would say. "You know you can fix that." Your mother would vehemently deny it, saying that you just had a lot of energy, that all 8 year olds have that much energy.

But that wasn't enough.

Soon enough you got your first script of Ritalin, and you behaved like the rest of them. Days began to fade together, and you soon became what they called "well behaved".

By middle school, you were confused, like the rest of the children that age. You didn't know what was happening to you. You were angry. You were disgruntled. By then, your mother had taken you off the script, seeing what it had done to you.

But that didn't help at all, since your hormones soon began to flow through your blood at a blistering pace.

Soon you became enamored with that blonde that sat across from you in Social Studies. You didn't know what to do or say, so you just sat there, hoping she would come talk to you.

But she didn't.

Soon enough, you saw her with one of your close friends. You bit your tongue, because you thought they were just friends.

Then high school came along. For all of high school, you attempted to distance yourself from your image in middle school. You tried to become something which you knew you weren't; joining one of the sports teams, trying to impress everyone. But soon you realized you weren't good enough, so you retreated back home to your safety, to your game console and your RPGs.

After all, they were the only way you could escape from this.

And before you realized it, you were a senior, about to depart to college. You lamented the fact that you were finally coming out of your shell, finally becoming who you wanted to be throughout high school. You had facial hair. You had newfound confidence. You had a girlfriend.

At the college welcome day, everything seemed exciting. You were going to make so many friends and be the best version of yourself. "Finally, a real fresh start!", you would say to yourself. You broke up with your girlfriend, because you thought you could do so much better in school.

Then orientation rolled around. You expected a full day of dumb seminars, teaching you not to plagiarize and how to write essays.

Instead, you got how you are a rapist. The thought never crossed your mind before. "How could I be a rapist?", you said to yourself. The lecturer, a 5'4 professor with purple highlights, stated bluntly that 1 in 5 of the boys in this room will be rapists in your college career.

You were shocked. All of that confidence seemingly went out the window. "What if I went home with a girl and we were both pretty drunk?" you asked your close friend. This is where things went downhill.

Talking to girls now was a chore. You had to mince your words in order to not come off as creepy, which bored them. They were too enamored with their smartphones anyway to care what you said. You were merely an afterthought.

College was tougher than you thought. They taught you things which made you feel even more emasculated, that it was your fault for all of societies' misdoings. You believed these things thoroughly, and adopted an apologetic mindset.

Even with these things taught to you, you still had hope that one day you would get one of those hot college girls. They finally started paying attention to you, as you would talk to them nonstop, have lunch with them, and continually just be there for them. In your mind, that was the way to a girl's heart.

On Halloween, however, you would see most of your girl friends, dressed in scantily clad mermaid outfits, go home with the frat boys. "Oh, they must just be bringing them home and dropping them off", you thought to yourself. You never really worried about that, since you assumed that no one else was hooking up, just like you.

Now things got frustrating. In your mandatory feminist theory course, you had to make a list of things that white males have done wrong. Out of principle, you refused.

"Why should I apologize when I've never done any of this?", you asked your professor.

The next week, you were meeting with administration. According to them, your peers had been offended by what you had said to them. They said you were insensitive, and that you had verbally victimized them. You got off with a warning, because you were a professional at apologizing.






By senior year, you had become the person you wanted to be. Two internships, a 3.7 GPA, and a job set up next year at a bank.

But there was one thing missing. You hadn't hooked up with a girl since the end of sophomore year, at that party that had Xanax in the jungle juice. You still felt inadequate, like something was missing.

So at the beginning of the year, you finally decided to approach a petite redhead at the cafeteria who you had your eyes on for quite some time. She seemed very interested, and even agreed to join you to the party on Saturday. You were equally as excited. "Finally, everything is going well for me."



When Saturday finally came, you pregamed as you normally do, with your group of 3 guys playing FIFA. Everything seemed perfect. You rolled up to the party, a bit late, with some extra swagger in your step. Walking into the party, you had all the confidence in the world.

You grabbed next on the beer pong table with your best bro, knowing that you would probably dominate. But there was one issue. She was nowhere to be seen. "Oh, she's probably running late".

After a few games and a few wins, you and your bud decided to retire from the table. You were pretty buzzed at this point, feeling pretty cocky from all the wins you had just racked up.

Then she walks in. She's wearing her rose colored dress, and looks amazing.

Like a best friend, your boy walks up to her friend, and introduces himself. While you'll never know how that went, you soon begin talking, and you soon begin making out downstairs in that musty frat party basement. With your confidence high, you ask if she wants to go home.

She resoundingly says yes. She consults her friend, and you see the head nod. The lights are all green. You catch a cab, and soon arrive at your place.

You take off her shirt, and she is loving it. Everything is going as you expected.

The sex was pretty solid, nothing spectacular. Granted, you haven't had sex in over a year, so this was a relatively fresh experience. You thought this would be the start of something great.

Then morning rolled around.

You woke up with a smile on your face, albeit with some baggy eyes, but with no girl next to you.

"Oh, she must have had something to do this morning".

You go about your day as usual, sending her a text, but getting no response, assuming that she is probably busy with whatever she is doing. You had no worries.

When you're in the midst of enjoying your new race perspectives class, you receive a cryptic email from the school administration. They say they need you in a meeting tomorrow at two. "It must be some sort of award for academic excellence they want to reward me with at graduation!", you think to yourself.

You roll up into the meeting, and it is a tense atmosphere. There are 6 administrators just staring at you.

Then they ask you the first question.

"Do you know Becky Dawson?"

"Yes, I do, I was with her on Saturday night."

That was all they needed. Soon enough, you got a letter, saying that you had 1 week to leave campus. Your parents were furious. You had no idea what was going on, as you repeatedly kept texting Becky, apologizing. It had no effect.

You were gone. All you had worked for was nothing now.

You had to go back home, where you would be inevitably hated by your family. By now, your mom and dad had separated, leaving you to live with your mom, who was dating new men.

You began to hate everything around you. Instead of trying to improve yourself, everything became a downward spiral. Life now sucked, and you now sucked. You tried your luck on tinder, but you realized that you would never get a date, so you stuck to pornhub. You gained 45 pounds in those six months.

Life was alright for you for those months, but suddenly, something snapped within you. When your mom brought home a new boyfriend on a Monday night, you were done.

"Fuck you mom, I'm living with dad now!"

"But dad doesn't want you, he said you're a disgrace to the family."

That was the lowest of the low. You went back down to your basement lair brooding. But this wasn't any normal brooding. This was scheming.

The next day, you went downtown, to the place which you always had been warned not to go as a child. Thankfully, in high school, you were friends with Terrell, who still knew your face.

"What's good bro?", he stated plainly.

"I need something for tomorrow."

"What you need?"

"This will do", as you point to the shiny metal object nearest to his pocket.




Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday came and went. "I'm going to do it", you kept repeating to yourself. "She ruined me, I'm going to finish her."

But then you realized something. It wasn't her fault, it was yours. You hadn't been nice enough to her. You were too confident that night, and you knew you could fix this. So you dropped the shiny toy, and googled "how to talk to girls".

Then you found a guy called RooshV.

And he told you everything was going to be alright.

Post: #2

Phew....good thing I lost my virginity at 13.

Post: #3

Some RVF'ers right now:

Post: #4

Post: #5

TL;DR: Game saves lives.



On a serious note: nice writing, 10/10.

Post: #6

(12-03-2015 06:22 PM)Snowplow Wrote:  Phew....good thing I lost my virginity at 13.

You missed out on so much Call of Duty.

Post: #7

(12-03-2015 07:05 PM)Aer Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 06:22 PM)Snowplow Wrote:  Phew....good thing I lost my virginity at 13.

You missed out on so much Call of Duty.

Sadly....no. I had a major low spot and wasted 2 years of my life playing that and God of War.

I still kick my own ass over that time wasted.

Post: #8

Most of the mass shooters had Aspergers. Aspergers what I understand can't be overcome so there really was no hope for the them. It is impressive what you accomplished and I applaud you for that but understand some people are not playing with the same deck of cards as you.

Post: #9

(12-03-2015 09:59 PM)Caribou Wrote:  Most of the mass shooters had Aspergers. Aspergers what I understand can't be overcome so there really was no hope for the them. It is impressive what you accomplished and I applaud you for that but understand some people are not playing with the same deck of cards as you.

Aspies are just low functioning sociopaths.

Post: #10

(12-03-2015 09:59 PM)Caribou Wrote:  Most of the mass shooters had Aspergers. Aspergers what I understand can't be overcome so there really was no hope for the them. It is impressive what you accomplished and I applaud you for that but understand some people are not playing with the same deck of cards as you.

Back 30-40 years ago Aspergers married ugly chicks. No problem. Now they are victims of the cock carousel and hypergamy. Damn.

Post: #11

delete

Post: #12

(12-03-2015 10:25 PM)kleyau Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 09:59 PM)Caribou Wrote:  Most of the mass shooters had Aspergers. Aspergers what I understand can't be overcome so there really was no hope for the them. It is impressive what you accomplished and I applaud you for that but understand some people are not playing with the same deck of cards as you.

Aspies are just low functioning sociopaths.

You should have a bit of sympathy for them

Post: #13

Sympathy doesn't negate that many do seem to be sociopaths.

Post: #14

(12-03-2015 11:10 PM)Repo Wrote:  Sympathy doesn't negate that many do seem to be sociopaths.

If your whole life was destroyed because you were given a vaccine when you were a child in you desperately wanted to be normal and fit in but you could not wouldn't that make you pissed off at the world too

Post: #15

You don't get Aspergers from a vaccine.

Post: #16

(12-03-2015 11:30 PM)spokepoker Wrote:  You don't get Aspergers from a vaccine.

These conditions have only became an epidemic in the last 50 years since we started mass vaccinations. I know the "official" story is that there's not no link between vaccinations and autism but considering how the government isn't exactly looking out for the welfare of its people I wouldn't be surprised that the two are linked.

Post: #17

@caribou

Do you have Aspergers? You brought it up and keep talking about it?

Post: #18

(12-03-2015 11:44 PM)Caribou Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 11:30 PM)spokepoker Wrote:  You don't get Aspergers from a vaccine.

These conditions have only became an epidemic in the last 50 years since we started mass vaccinations.

Mass vaccinations date back much further than that.

Aspergers may well be no different to high-functioning autism. Aspergers itself as a diagnosis only became official in 1990, and it was thrown out of the DSM in 2013, instead classed as autism spectrum disorder with differing severities. Aspergers also appears to run in families, which somewhat eliminates the vaccine possibility. Some ASD cases have been observed in the case of teratogens (agents causing birth defects) in the first 8 weeks from conception, but no environmental factors have been linked.

Post: #19

Whether vaccinations can cause Autism/Aspergers or not can and should be discussed in public and thoroughly investigated. It is a fact, that vaccinations can, in very rare cases, cause other issues - some of them lasting, e.g. I personally know of a case where a girl became mute because of a vaccination. But these are very very rare cases. If there was more research done on the Aspergers possibility, then we might find out if there is a link, which part of the vaccine specifically causes it, so we might be able to correct it. I doubt that if it is the case, it is an "evil plan" to do it purposefully. Might be that big pharma already knows about it but it's so rare that investing in a solution isn't worth it, especially as long as it isn't proven to be a fact in the general public.

(12-03-2015 11:44 PM)Caribou Wrote:  These conditions have only became an epidemic in the last 50 years since we started mass vaccinations. I know the "official" story is that there's not no link between vaccinations and autism but considering how the government isn't exactly looking out for the welfare of its people I wouldn't be surprised that the two are linked.

It's certainly a possibility, but there are so many other factors that have changed dramatically and could be a cause - why pick vaccines? GMOs for example. Comparing the GMO-infested USA and Kanada with other countries that have similar lifestyles but still eat natural foods, could be an interesting study. But as always, correlation does not equal causation, so these studys still don't prove anything. Also - picking up what Paracelsus said - these diagnoses are relatively new. If the disease pattern wasn't known before, naturally it just wasn't diagnosed at the time, even though possibly having had the same or a similar prevalence as today.

(12-03-2015 11:56 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  Aspergers also appears to run in families, which somewhat eliminates the vaccine possibility.

Aspergers running in families doesn't eliminate this possibility at all. Since it is clear that even if vaccines could cause Aspergers, they definitely don't do so in the majority of people, so there must be a difference between those who get it and those who don't. While many factors could play a role, a very obvious difference could be that certain genetical dispositions are more prone to a vaccine-induced development of the disease.

All this being said, there is one argument however, which always trumps everything and makes the existing doubts futile: Even if vaccines do cause Autism/Aspergers/ADHD/Depression/homosexuality/what have you, these effects are very rare considering that almost everybody is being vaccinated nowadays. At the same time, they very effectively protect against certain deadly diseases or diseases that can cause lasting impairments/disabilities. Those who do not vaccinate their children put them in greater danger than if they'd give them the shots and if their children manage to grow up without these infections, it is mostly thanks to herd immunity.

Also: short story about game and shootings --> vaccinations and autism. Make the connection.

Post: #20

(12-03-2015 11:44 PM)Caribou Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 11:30 PM)spokepoker Wrote:  You don't get Aspergers from a vaccine.

These conditions have only became an epidemic in the last 50 years since we started mass vaccinations. I know the "official" story is that there's not no link between vaccinations and autism but considering how the government isn't exactly looking out for the welfare of its people I wouldn't be surprised that the two are linked.

I don't agree.

Aspergers hasn't become an epidemic and this is a classic mistake people make when throwing around that term. We have only become to identify and understand aspergers whereas 50 years ago we would have called all of these autistic people "retards" and they would not be productive members of society. 200+ years ago, if you had Aspergers or any other debilitating mental or physical disability you were often killed off.

So to be clear, the perception that Asperger Syndrome is a new phenomenon is due to the fact that we now in the 21st century have a label for that type of autism spectrum disorder.

Post: #21

(12-04-2015 07:00 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 11:44 PM)Caribou Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 11:30 PM)spokepoker Wrote:  You don't get Aspergers from a vaccine.

These conditions have only became an epidemic in the last 50 years since we started mass vaccinations. I know the "official" story is that there's not no link between vaccinations and autism but considering how the government isn't exactly looking out for the welfare of its people I wouldn't be surprised that the two are linked.

I don't agree.

Aspergers hasn't become an epidemic and this is a classic mistake people make when throwing around that term. We have only become to identify and understand aspergers whereas 50 years ago we would have called all of these autistic people "retards" and they would not be productive members of society. 200+ years ago, if you had Aspergers or any other debilitating mental or physical disability you were often killed off.

So to be clear, the perception that Asperger Syndrome is a new phenomenon is due to the fact that we now in the 21st century have a label for that type of autism spectrum disorder.

So you would've killed off scientists and engineers just because they were a bit off socially
Also why would they be classified as retards if if most of them have iq in the 130 range
To be clear im talking about Aspergers not Rainman like autism

Post: #22

I am a teacher. Looking at the children that come through my classrooms, Asbergers is not uncommon, but certainly not an epidemic - if a class size is 25, I would expect one every two years. (I know this is not statistically significant, but looking at other classes around school, it seems there are even less than this).

Before vaccinations, I'm sure that I would expect several kids in my class to be suffering from the consequences of polio, and every child would have a relative that had died of measles or smallpox. I don't mind teaching a few Aspi kids if this is the consequence of vaccination (even though it's probably not).

Let's get the conversation back on track to what this thread is really about - the ideas that make men better men.

Post: #23

Sorry for derailing the conversation it just an issue that's very personal to me

Post: #24

Personally, my theory is that autism and anything ASD relative is from the age of the mother, her nutrition and childhood coddling.

But otherwise, this is what happens when you have a bottle of wine from Valais and sit down and just write after a long day of Econometrics.

Hopefully I could actually make people smile after reading all these depressing threads in the forum recently.

Post: #25

(12-04-2015 08:31 AM)Caribou Wrote:  

(12-04-2015 07:00 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 11:44 PM)Caribou Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 11:30 PM)spokepoker Wrote:  You don't get Aspergers from a vaccine.

These conditions have only became an epidemic in the last 50 years since we started mass vaccinations. I know the "official" story is that there's not no link between vaccinations and autism but considering how the government isn't exactly looking out for the welfare of its people I wouldn't be surprised that the two are linked.

I don't agree.

Aspergers hasn't become an epidemic and this is a classic mistake people make when throwing around that term. We have only become to identify and understand aspergers whereas 50 years ago we would have called all of these autistic people "retards" and they would not be productive members of society. 200+ years ago, if you had Aspergers or any other debilitating mental or physical disability you were often killed off.

So to be clear, the perception that Asperger Syndrome is a new phenomenon is due to the fact that we now in the 21st century have a label for that type of autism spectrum disorder.

So you would've killed off scientists and engineers just because they were a bit off socially
Also why would they be classified as retards if if most of them have iq in the 130 range
To be clear im talking about Aspergers not Rainman like autism

Nowhere in there did he say he wanted to kill off any mentally handicap people. While this may be a sensitive topic for you, don't let your emotions cloud your ability to comprehend sentences. Your retort is a classic liberal attempt at silencing debate and a poor one at that.

What he was trying to say:

Back in 1850s America and Europe you had a choice, you either did well in school, worked in the fields, or assembled widgets into things in a factory. If you had any form of mental handicap that prohibited you from bringing in money to the family then you were a useless eater who would have most likely caused the more able bodied children to starve. That child most likely was either shot or left to starve.

Just in case you missed it: Nothing in that statement implies either myself or Gmac wish for the mentally disabled to be euthanized.

Spokepoker said it best. You don't get autism or aspergers from vaccines. However you most likely acquire these deficiencies from being born to a mother in her late 30s.