Post: #1

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/weve-ha...spartandhp

I can't believe the Washington Post posted this. And according to the chart in Reason #3, the 80s must have been a hell of a time.

Post: #2

Sometimes the editor makes a mistake, and prints the truth. He'll be fired tomorrow.

Post: #3

(12-03-2015 05:59 PM)nek Wrote:  http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/weve-ha...spartandhp

I can't believe the Washington Post posted this. And according to the chart in Reason #3, the 80s must have been a hell of a time.

Miami in the 80's was like nothing seen today in the US. The difference was there was no internet and 24/7 hr news cycles (genesis of CNN being the exception) to fully exploit the dramatics

Post: #4

One thing even conservatives forget about gun violence is that many of the studies include suicide and Americans kill themselves in high numbers and we're see huge increases in suicide. For instance, one rare honest NY Times article admits this - but I'd bet most people don't realize that (notice the homicide graph is decreasing, but there's a sharp increase in suicides).

Post: #5

I wonder if an increase in combat-era veterans is a factor.

Post: #6

Interesting. While if true this is a good thing on the surface, the timing of this makes me question its validity. The media will continue to double down on the multicultural narrative, and I expect to see more of this ammunition when violence, terror attacks, etc occur from minority groups.

To possibly explain this, I would say a declining birthrate, aging population, and higher use of prescription drugs could account for this decline, among other possibilities. His reasons are purely speculative, and I at least find it hard to believe that our economy is significantly better to explain this, along with reduced alcohol consumption. Love the conviction and language in the title: "We've had a massive decline in gun violence in the United States: here's why." Sounds more like propaganda to me.

Post: #7

Demographics. Baby Boomers are the biggest age bracket so when that demographic hit their 20s to 30s, lots of gun violence in the 70s to 90s. As they get in their 40s, 50s and 60s, gun violence declines. Alcohol consumption follows the same demographic pattern.

Funny how the most likely cause was completely ignored by that article.

Post: #8

Freakonomics touched on this. Abortions led to millions of potential criminals being unborn, thus a decrease in crime across all anglopshere countries.

An older population regardless of income is far more averse to conflict than the young.

I would like to see the statistics between nations that have allowed abortions and those that either don't, or where it's simply not the norm. I'd bet outside of a few outliers there's at least some correlation.

Post: #9

(12-03-2015 08:54 PM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:  Freakonomics touched on this. Abortions led to millions of potential criminals being unborn, thus a decrease in crime across all anglopshere countries.

An older population regardless of income is far more averse to conflict than the young.

I would like to see the statistics between nations that have allowed abortions and those that either don't, or where it's simply not the norm. I'd bet outside of a few outliers there's at least some correlation.

Besides that there were a lot of other factors to the crime spike back in the day too.

The crack epidemic.

Lead pollution (seriously)

The outsourcing of traditional blue collar factory jobs. This hit the Los Angeles area particularly hard in the 70's-80.

The mariel boat lift. It let in a shitload of criminals and crime statistics in Miami alone skewed the national average upward.