Post: #26

Well I guess jobs are a good reason, but only if you have an exit-plan.

Post: #27

(07-02-2011 10:58 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

(07-02-2011 10:45 AM)Vicious Wrote:  In that case I'm wondering why men are living in DC and if they have any self-respect. Out of curiosity I'm also wondering why DC is drawing this particular attitude. I can imagine Cali with the all the posing... but DC? I'm think about the Smithsonian, the Washington Monument and the seat of congress... not beaches packed with "Hell yes!" girls...

People come here for jobs. Government, Contractors, Lawyers, Lobbyists, etc. There is a lot of good food though

I'm here because of circumstances, not choice. Just enjoying what I can as long as I'm here.

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Post: #28

(07-02-2011 10:20 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Girls is fat... very obviously fat. And what does she do? Reject his appearance because he's not skinny enough:

Quote:I think I usually go for more slender, not so muscly guys.

Unfuckingreal!

He tried to set up a date two, but she was "busy."

Clearly this isn't confined to dry wells like DC. I've heard or seen fatties reject prospects well above their level in tier-one American cities. Apart from the obvious causes: the obesity epidemic's skewing of the market; the American entitlement culture (everyone deserves a hottie); and the fatness apologists in the media and elsewhere; I'd blame a new, more insidious cause. There are enough fat bitches now that the average American man's perception of fatness is beginning to skew. I'm noticing more and more fat bitches on television and in ads. I see guys worshiping girls that, while not fat, would be considered of-not-ideal-builds in places where fat people are rare (e.g., Israel).

Bad is getting worse, gentlemen.

Post: #29

So, the question becomes, which American city (or cities) has the least amount of "American women" in the cultural sense ?

As for this girl, I agree with the poster above about it being racial. He did not seem that muscly in the first place based on his picture, and we should know better than to take at face value anything a woman says.

Post: #30

(07-02-2011 02:20 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(07-02-2011 10:20 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Girls is fat... very obviously fat. And what does she do? Reject his appearance because he's not skinny enough:

Quote:I think I usually go for more slender, not so muscly guys.

Unfuckingreal!

He tried to set up a date two, but she was "busy."

Clearly this isn't confined to dry wells like DC. I've heard or seen fatties reject prospects well above their level in tier-one American cities. Apart from the obvious causes: the obesity epidemic's skewing of the market; the American entitlement culture (everyone deserves a hottie); and the fatness apologists in the media and elsewhere; I'd blame a new, more insidious cause. There are enough fat bitches now that the average American man's perception of fatness is beginning to skew. I'm noticing more and more fat bitches on television and in ads. I see guys worshiping girls that, while not fat, would be considered of-not-ideal-builds in places where fat people are rare (e.g., Israel).

Bad is getting worse, gentlemen.

This is every westernised country on the planet. Fatties are leading to slender 6's acting like 8's because there is so little competition for them if they are in some kind of shape.

This is also why there appears to be so many more hot women when you travel. Its not that western women are uglier, on the contrary, its just that so many of them are fat that being slender woman is already a massive bonus.

Its going to get worse chaps, there is no indication that the situation will improve any time soon.

Post: #31

(07-02-2011 12:14 PM)AVisitor Wrote:  Anglo-Saxon blonde with a Latino/ethnic guy [won't] expect easy rapport

skinniness/muscle was just an excuse.

She isn't skinny, but I think she is really pretty, with long, flowing hair, clear complexion, nice smile, tasteful dress, and slender legs.

She might have rejected him for his Latino appearance, or crew cut, or slouching jeans. He didn't appear particularly muscled, and definitely doesn't look like a strongman.

Post: #32

The only to combat this is for men of any discernible quality to stop dating down, even if it means being alone for a little while. Notice, I didn't say stop sexing down necessarily, I said stop DATING down. Let's stop treating these fatties and sistas' with horse faces seriously, using them only to have our needs met, and even then only in a drought!

Until we stop placing these 7's and below on pedestals, it will never get better. A man should always date up, physically. A 7 man should not even date a 7 woman. The black guy in the first example was at least a 6.5, while she was a 5 at best. He's already helping to destroy the grading curve. He's helping to ruin this 5 woman for a 5 guy that truly deserves her!

Post: #33

I just skimmed the last sixteen Date Lab articles. The women are definitely pickier.

Successful dates (leading to more contact): 3,
Both sides reject: 2,
Man rejects: 3,
Woman rejects: 8.



Date Lab: Can two history buffs connect in the present?
We send two history lovers on a blind date to Lincoln’s Cottage.

Date Lab: Is the goal a date or a relationship? ( The Washington Post, June 23, 2011; 5:28 PM )

Date Lab: Can he swat his way into her heart? ( The Washington Post, June 16, 2011; 9:34 PM )

Date Lab: A mix-up leads to a missed connection? Do-over! ( The Washington Post, June 10, 2011; 2:35 PM )

Date Lab: A mix-up leads to a missed connection? Do-over! ( The Washington Post, June 10, 2011; 2:35 PM )

Date Lab: She thinks he’s a great guy ... for someone else ( The Washington Post, June 3, 2011; 6:24 PM )

Date Lab: He’s an accountant who DJs on the side. She’s...not impressed ( The Washington Post, May 27, 2011; 3:54 PM )

Date Lab: After swinging in the trees, will they fall into each other’s arms? ( The Washington Post, May 22, 2011; 5:38 PM )

Date Lab: Are these two healers feeling each other’s vibes? ( The Washington Post, May 15, 2011; 3:27 PM )

Date Lab: They have years of experience — does it pay off? ( The Washington Post, May 8, 2011; 11:59 AM )

Date Lab: Can we get a volunteer to supply some spark? ( The Washington Post, May 1, 2011; 8:32 PM )

Date Lab: She got swag. But does he? ( The Washington Post, April 24, 2011; 12:03 PM )

Date Lab: Taking Washington nerdiness to a new level ( The Washington Post, April 17, 2011; 12:29 PM )

Date Lab: She can be ‘ridiculous,’ but he’s not scared ( The Washington Post, April 10, 2011; 4:20 PM )

Date Lab: She’s ready to prove that everyone is interesting ( The Washington Post, April 3, 2011; 1:48 PM )

Date Lab: Listening to the same music doesn’t mean they’ll sing the same tune. ( The Washington Post, March 27, 2011; 8:11 PM )

Date Lab: Will pre-date scare tactics keep her on edge? ( The Washington Post, March 13, 2011; 4:52 PM )

Date Lab: Maybe if they really hugged it out ... ( The Washington Post, March 6, 2011; 4:25 PM )

Post: #34

(07-03-2011 12:39 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  The only to combat this is for men of any discernible quality to stop dating down, even if it means being alone for a little while. Notice, I didn't say stop sexing down necessarily, I said stop DATING down. Let's stop treating these fatties and sistas' with horse faces seriously, using them only to have our needs met, and even then only in a drought!

Until we stop placing these 7's and below on pedestals, it will never get better. A man should always date up, physically. A 7 man should not even date a 7 woman. The black guy in the first example was at least a 6.5, while she was a 5 at best. He's already helping to destroy the grading curve. He's helping to ruin this 5 woman for a 5 guy that truly deserves her!

Yup. When a man dates down, everyone but the girl loses out.

Post: #35

Holy fuck... this is surreal. I often think that, as far as dating goes, my country is becoming very Americanized, but this tops the cake. We do experience idiotic standards all the way up to cat years, but not on this scale. LOL.

When I hear an average 26 yr. old plain Jane here talk about how she dates only "tall, dark men", I want to puke. Still, with the right game they do drop their panties for a brief time, if not their standards...

p.s. look at all the Beta responses to roosh's comment under the article! "Dating for fun" is just a stand-in for non-needy angelic behavior, who knew?

Post: #36

(07-03-2011 12:39 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  The only to combat this is for men of any discernible quality to stop dating down, even if it means being alone for a little while. Notice, I didn't say stop sexing down necessarily, I said stop DATING down. Let's stop treating these fatties and sistas' with horse faces seriously, using them only to have our needs met, and even then only in a drought!

Until we stop placing these 7's and below on pedestals, it will never get better. A man should always date up, physically. A 7 man should not even date a 7 woman. The black guy in the first example was at least a 6.5, while she was a 5 at best. He's already helping to destroy the grading curve. He's helping to ruin this 5 woman for a 5 guy that truly deserves her!

This is why things will not improve for a very long time.



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Post: #37

Quote:p.s. look at all the Beta responses to roosh's comment under the article! "Dating for fun" is just a stand-in for non-needy angelic behavior, who knew?

"dating for fun" = wasting a man's time

My "fat girl" comment got the most recommendations.

Thing is if she lost 20 pounds she'd be quite beautiful. The fact that a girl is content staying fat is unconscionable to me.

Post: #38

Not everyone is going to end up with an 8, either because a lack of skill, or because they end up finding one who's 'cute enough', as well as meets a lot of his other needs. (In other words, settle) Nevertheless, A man should always have a woman who is prettier than he is handsome!

Post: #39

She doesn't even look fat to me... but then again I live in DC, and she's thinner than the DC average. It's sad that DC women are all the same - pudgy with homogenized interests. Yet, they dismiss the men on minor "flaws" (like being TOO in shape, or too legitimate about dating).

Post: #40

I'd call her thick, not fat... but yeah anything over 5 lbs and I start deducting points every 5 thereafter. I just can't do it, though occasionally...

Post: #41

(06-26-2011 12:37 PM)kimleebj Wrote:  Roosh nailed it. She rejected a good-looking, professional, black, Christian man who mentors kids. Given the shortage of educated/professional black men, his mailbox should be overflowing with offers from women.

Those good-looking black alphas have no incentive to marry if they can tolerate an endless stream of "picky professionals" who want to "have fun".

I'm just now seeing this thread. Great link and discussion. I'm glad it got posted because this thread illustrates exactly what is fucked up about black American women and all the ridiculous hypergamy that me and Athlone have talked about on other threads. He's a good looking guy(and that's good looking without having to wear a weave), intelligent, they said he had a genius IQ(any woman that wants smart successful kids should consider this a HUGE ++) education, makes good scratch, Christian, not trying to be a playa and looking for something serious and he gets rejected by one of these career black women. I take it the guy must be having a hard time finding dates if he has to resort to the Washington Post for one. This is pathetic, not the guy, but this situation. In a different era, this dude would've been hitched by 25(if that's what he wants) by a great woman willing to cook and happy to have his kids. But in 2011, he gets rejected by unattractive yet demanding bitches that wouldn't know a good deal if slapped her upside the head. I hope that bitch remains single forever. Then I can laugh when her ass is on Oprah talking about the dismal marriage prospects for black women.

Best of luck to that guy. He seems like a good guy I would gladly introduce to my own sister.

Post: #42

(06-27-2011 04:17 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  I would date him. hard to see a black, sucessful and good looking man available around here.

Good for you. If I met this guy, I would seriously tell him to go take a vacation to Brazil for a couple months and try his luck elsewhere.

Post: #43

(07-05-2011 12:47 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-27-2011 04:17 PM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  I would date him. hard to see a black, sucessful and good looking man available around here.

Good for you. If I met this guy, I would seriously tell him to go take a vacation to Brazil for a couple months and try his luck elsewhere.

Agreed. I'd also tell him to think about bringing back a bride from that region as well.

1. Lower risk of divorce(cross cultural marriages have a lower divorce rate in the US), especially if he protects himself with a quick pre-nup as all men marrying in America should.

2. They'll be more attractive on average (read: thinner) than what he'll see in DC.

3. They'll be more amenable to his personality(nice guy, christian, etc) and ideals(stable, committed, traditional relationship).

There are a lot of women across the planet who would kill to meet a guy like this, and many more older women in the US who regret passing similar prospects up when they were younger.
And yet, somehow, these women have found a way not only to roundly reject him, but also to find him somehow offensive for wanting commitment.

They'll never be satisfied. They want the princess treatment without actually aspiring to be anything like a princess, and that just can't work in the real world.

Post: #44

(07-06-2011 12:28 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  Agreed. I'd also tell him to think about bringing back a bride from that region as well.

1. Lower risk of divorce(cross cultural marriages have a lower divorce rate in the US), especially if he protects himself with a quick pre-nup as all men marrying in America should.

2. They'll be more attractive on average (read: thinner) than what he'll see in DC.

3. They'll be more amenable to his personality(nice guy, christian, etc) and ideals(stable, committed, traditional relationship).

Have you seen Eddie Murphy's RAW though? Some golden advice on how that kind of girl will change if you allow her to interact with American women. Mostly a funny skit, but there's a morsel of truth to it. Highly recommended.

Post: #45

Honestly, the moment I saw the photo, I thought, not gonna happen. He looks kind of low-class, and being Hispanic doesn't help. His style is lacking, too prole and too informal. He'd have better luck if he had slightly longer hair and wore a collared shirt with nice jeans, and an actually toned physique. But yeah, the point stands.

If DC girls are picky, LA girls are flakey and easily distracted.

(07-03-2011 03:55 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(07-03-2011 12:39 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  The only to combat this is for men of any discernible quality to stop dating down, even if it means being alone for a little while. Notice, I didn't say stop sexing down necessarily, I said stop DATING down. Let's stop treating these fatties and sistas' with horse faces seriously, using them only to have our needs met, and even then only in a drought!

Until we stop placing these 7's and below on pedestals, it will never get better. A man should always date up, physically. A 7 man should not even date a 7 woman. The black guy in the first example was at least a 6.5, while she was a 5 at best. He's already helping to destroy the grading curve. He's helping to ruin this 5 woman for a 5 guy that truly deserves her!

Yup. When a man dates down, everyone but the girl loses out.

This happens even when we're just sexing them. Fat chicks think they're desirable because they get hit on occasionally. Witness the colossal delusion in this link - http://blip.tv/skyy-john/fat-chicks-shou...hem-229383

(07-03-2011 05:23 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:p.s. look at all the Beta responses to roosh's comment under the article! "Dating for fun" is just a stand-in for non-needy angelic behavior, who knew?

"dating for fun" = wasting a man's time

My "fat girl" comment got the most recommendations.

Thing is if she lost 20 pounds she'd be quite beautiful. The fact that a girl is content staying fat is unconscionable to me.

Agreed. It's incredible how chicks will stay fat. I think, "This is not about me - don't you just want the best you can get? Wouldn't you double your salary to $100 grand if it required working just 4 more hours a week?" It's the equivalent of a man being willfully unemployed, homeless and suffering from leprosy.

Post: #46

(07-06-2011 05:06 PM)basilransom Wrote:  This happens even when we're just sexing them. Fat chicks think they're desirable because they get hit on occasionally. Witness the colossal delusion in this link - http://blip.tv/skyy-john/fat-chicks-shou...hem-229383

LOL! Great video. Dude is so funny. I didn't know skyy John has been around so long.

I think the bigger problem is thirsty dudes with low standards. Fat girls are confused because they get hit on(at least here in America). Some of them don't realize they are undesirable and surprisingly can be picky. HAHA

Post: #47

(07-06-2011 05:06 PM)basilransom Wrote:  This happens even when we're just sexing them. Fat chicks think they're desirable because they get hit on occasionally. Witness the colossal delusion in this link - http://blip.tv/skyy-john/fat-chicks-shou...hem-229383

There are some girls that with the right headshots, i.e. fat chick angle pics, you'd think without seeing the whole package, they were cute.

I couldn't say that about these chicks, in fact, I'd take it a step further and say even if they lost weight, I still wouldn't find them cute.

One thing I hate about fat chicks like these is that fake swag and slight tinge of attitude they possess. These types are usually quick to talk about how dudes hit on them all the time, but they never touch on the quality of said dudes.

Just the fact a woman has a pussy means there's some dude out there that wants to poke it, but these women mostly get hit on by busted dudes who they don't even want. The ones they may actually want, well these dudes are smart enough to just be in it for the head game and some pussy, and fuck them at 3 AM when no one is the wiser, but don't be caught dead with them in any social setting.

Post: #48

(07-06-2011 10:45 PM)jariel Wrote:  One thing I hate about fat chicks like these is that fake swag and slight tinge of attitude they possess. These types are usually quick to talk about how dudes hit on them all the time, but they never touch on the quality of said dudes.

This thing you describe is called fatitude.

Post: #49

Quote:This happens even when we're just sexing them. Fat chicks think they're desirable because they get hit on occasionally. Witness the colossal delusion in this link - http://blip.tv/skyy-john/fat-chicks-shou...hem-229383

This is very true.

I had an ex (that i'm not proud of but was back when I was probably at my worst ever, gamewise) who was a big fatty. She had a really cute face and huge boobs, but she was straight obese. Its sad because if she lost just 50 pounds she'd make a bangin thick girl, if she lost 80 she'd be stunning.

I've kept in touch with her over the past couple years and we went out for dinner and she made a comment to me that literally took me back. I was speechless for about 30 seconds.

"If I wanna get hit (fucked), I can get hit"

She's 25, lives with her mother and brother, makes minimum wage, and had gained eve more weight since we broke up to a point where I'd say she could literally drop her weight by HALF and be fine, and she said that.

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Post: #50

(07-07-2011 05:09 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  I had an ex (that i'm not proud of but was back when I was probably at my worst ever, gamewise) who was a big fatty. She had a really cute face and huge boobs, but she was straight obese.

The "daring" in your name is quite appropriate.

I actually had a girl that was a dime piece at 23 and morbidly obese by 25. I found out when she came to visit me last year, and when I saw her I didn't recognize her at all. She obviously couldn't stay with me, so I made up an excuse and asked her to stay in a hotel. When she checked into her hotel room, she pulled out her driver's license, and it looked like she had murdered the girl who was on the license and was now using her identity.

I kept thinking to myself how can she look at that license and look at herself every day and not feel like slitting her wrists?

I used to bang this chick like I just got a furlough, now I'd rather be in prison than do her.

That being said, one way to get a dime piece is to train one, if you have the patience. I know a few girls who already have cute faces, if they just lost 30 pounds would be banging. If you put in the work to help them get there, they'll appreciate that shit forever. The thing is with a lot of these girls, even after they lose the weight, they still have the fat girl mindset, so it takes a little longer for their inner game to develop.

As I stated before, the fat chicks with fake swag like in the video are helpless, they'd be lucky to have a guy like me allow them to give me some dome at 3 AM after I've hit the club or their cuter BFF in the other room.