Post: #26

(12-03-2015 08:01 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  How would everybody feel about this story if everybody in this story was Muslim? It's considered normal in many Muslim families for a man to take on a second wife once his first wife hits the wall.

I'd think that's normal as well.

My background is SEA. My great grandfather had the same arrangement, and it was his first wife that went out and found him the younger wife. I'm not sure how common this was though, as my great grandfather was wealthy. By my grandfather's time, bigamy / polygamy was already out, the arrangement became wife + mistress instead.

I won't debate how this might be good or bad for society as a whole, because to be honest, I don't know enough yet.

However, it has to be better for a young woman to marry an older established man, even in a polygamy arrangement, than to ride the carousel of young and old cocks before settling down for a dumb arse later in life after her fertility is almost entirely gone, or to have multiple baby daddies and live off welfare, i.e our current arrangement.

Post: #27

(12-03-2015 08:34 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  However, it has to be better for a young woman to marry an older established man, even in a polygamy arrangement, than to ride the carousel of young and old cocks before settling down for a dumb arse later in life after her fertility is almost entirely gone, or to have multiple baby daddies and live off welfare, i.e our current arrangement.

There is a difference between marrying "an older man" and marrying someone who will die in less than 15 years of marriage.

Post: #28

(12-02-2015 06:41 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 09:15 PM)rpg Wrote:  

(12-01-2015 02:02 PM)SirTimothy Wrote:  There's actually nothing against polygyny in the Bible, although there are a few rules on it, one being that pastors are only supposed to have one wife. But, I've seen pastors do worse things.

I don't see how how he can still get it up for the older one, though. That's what I call a 2.

The 19 year old is a 2. The old hag is a -10. That hag couldnt get me hard with 2 viagra and sucking me for an hour. No way. Her face could make a dog go limp. Fuck.

Pointy elbows?

I WB the 19 year old. At least once. I was pointing out the 45 year old hag is DONE. In the worst way. See the hair lip? She is running a full T body hair shag, dried out, saggy nightmare on 2 legs. The Alpha male needs to cut her loose.

Post: #29

People find it disgusting because they imagine about this old man fucking a young girl.

But these days with LGBT movement in America, I don't know why it's wrong? It's basically a person loving another person (when
they talk about gay marriage) A guy fucking another guy is ok in their eye but they can't swallow this?

Post: #30

(12-03-2015 10:19 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  People find it disgusting because they imagine about this old man fucking a young girl.

But these days with LGBT movement in America, I don't know why it's wrong? It's basically a person loving another person (when
they talk about gay marriage) A guy fucking another guy is ok in their eye but they can't swallow this?

Well, I can't speak for America. But personally, I've criticized the shit out of fags on this forum, a lot more than this pimp pastor

Post: #31

(12-03-2015 10:36 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Well, I can't speak for America. But personally, I've criticized the shit out of fags on this forum, a lot more than this pimp pastor

It's looking like he was more pimp than pastor:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...pport.html

Post: #32

(12-04-2015 03:48 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 10:36 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Well, I can't speak for America. But personally, I've criticized the shit out of fags on this forum, a lot more than this pimp pastor

It's looking like he was more pimp than pastor:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...pport.html

A huge piece of shit, far bigger than even I realized. If anything, I was too nice about him in my initial assessment.

Slightly disappointing that virtually on the men on here were fooled by his "alphaness" but hopefully this is a good lesson for guys here on how not to get played.

Post: #33

(12-04-2015 08:57 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(12-04-2015 03:48 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 10:36 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Well, I can't speak for America. But personally, I've criticized the shit out of fags on this forum, a lot more than this pimp pastor

It's looking like he was more pimp than pastor:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...pport.html

A huge piece of shit, far bigger than even I realized. If anything, I was too nice about him in my initial assessment.

Slightly disappointing that virtually on the men on here were fooled by his "alphaness" but hopefully this is a good lesson for guys here on how not to get played.

Great story. An alpha that loves raw dogging teen pussy. This guy is hard core does what ever the fuck he wants pastor drug dealer mutherfukker.

Post: #34

(12-04-2015 11:47 PM)rpg Wrote:  

(12-04-2015 08:57 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(12-04-2015 03:48 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 10:36 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Well, I can't speak for America. But personally, I've criticized the shit out of fags on this forum, a lot more than this pimp pastor

It's looking like he was more pimp than pastor:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...pport.html

A huge piece of shit, far bigger than even I realized. If anything, I was too nice about him in my initial assessment.

Slightly disappointing that virtually on the men on here were fooled by his "alphaness" but hopefully this is a good lesson for guys here on how not to get played.

Great story. An alpha that loves raw dogging teen pussy. This guy is hard core does what ever the fuck he wants pastor drug dealer mutherfukker.

It's all fun and games until it's a woman in your family that comes home preggo.

Post: #35

(12-02-2015 07:52 PM)SigmundSauer Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 07:02 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 08:24 PM)T and A Man Wrote:  When you see how men and women come together like thus, and they're happy....

This is how you know God exists.

I'm going to go against the grain here. What this man did was immoral, disgusting, and makes a mockery of Christian pastors.

First, no doubt what he did was Alpha. But remember, Alpha is anything - including Good and Evil.

Second, a pastor is supposed to be a communities place of worship and commune with God. It is not supposed to be a place for priests to get laid. It is not supposed to be a place where priests can steal the daughters of their laymen. Is this priest more interested in helping his parishioners or getting laid?

God has extremely high standards for His priests and clergy (as we know from the writings of Christians over thousands of years, who have had visions and have said this). This pastor, like so many other corrupt pastors, will be judged harshly and much more so than the average man.

Both the Bible and most Cannon Laws of most legit churches are explicitly against priests doing this kind of behavior. I wonder how many reasons we can list why?

1. Destroys the Church's community. "Hey, want to go that new Church where the priest is a polygamist, directly against the Word of God, but also someone who will take advantage of a man's trust (as most likely the trust of the father of the girl he gamed)?"

2. Polygamy means barbarism. Two women for one man. If every man did that, there would be serious violence or societal death due to insufficient birthrates (one man cannot support multiple families with time or money as a single man could and there are far less children as a result). A pastor is supposed to be the moral leader of the community, a blameless man for others to emulate.

3. Shows that priesthood is about obtaining worldly goods, and not spiritual goods. The message to other guys in the Church: "I need to join the ranks of the Church so I can get laid!" This rot kills a Church in the long run because the community members stop going to love each other, but instead pose as social climbers. A tremendous amount of corruption and decay to the Catholic and Orthodox Churches have occurred in exactly this manner as well. Eventually the laymen stop going to Church and say "Fuck you" to the hypocrites leading it, with many of them becoming atheists and dooming themselves to Hell. And pastors like this one will share the great burden of this sin on their judgement.

God is never mocked. This priest thinks he can pull a fast one on God, he is obviously an arrogant heretic in a robe.

"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves."

- Matthew 7:15

For every extra wife that he marries from the community, there is a shunned young man who has been pressured to leave either by decree or by need for a wife.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_boys_...mentalism)

This is actually true. And one of the reasons I think that today there's resentment over older man/younger woman pairings is because a lot of we Gen X-ers saw our women being taken by older, divorced Baby Boomer men and hated it. This is a form of "soft polygamy."

I remember getting my first job at a local newspaper and being really happy there were lots of women around who were my age. Then I found out time and time again, they were either having affairs with the older married guys or were dating the divorced ones (in one instance, an older spurned wife of one of these men came into the building and caused a huge scene).

Anyway, ours was the first generation where we had an inordinate amount of divorced men in the next age bracket. This really did affect our dating pool and if there's "age prejudice" now, it's probably because this went on so much and left so many guys out in the cold.

Post: #36

(12-05-2015 03:56 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 07:52 PM)SigmundSauer Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 07:02 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 08:24 PM)T and A Man Wrote:  When you see how men and women come together like thus, and they're happy....

This is how you know God exists.

I'm going to go against the grain here. What this man did was immoral, disgusting, and makes a mockery of Christian pastors.

First, no doubt what he did was Alpha. But remember, Alpha is anything - including Good and Evil.

Second, a pastor is supposed to be a communities place of worship and commune with God. It is not supposed to be a place for priests to get laid. It is not supposed to be a place where priests can steal the daughters of their laymen. Is this priest more interested in helping his parishioners or getting laid?

God has extremely high standards for His priests and clergy (as we know from the writings of Christians over thousands of years, who have had visions and have said this). This pastor, like so many other corrupt pastors, will be judged harshly and much more so than the average man.

Both the Bible and most Cannon Laws of most legit churches are explicitly against priests doing this kind of behavior. I wonder how many reasons we can list why?

1. Destroys the Church's community. "Hey, want to go that new Church where the priest is a polygamist, directly against the Word of God, but also someone who will take advantage of a man's trust (as most likely the trust of the father of the girl he gamed)?"

2. Polygamy means barbarism. Two women for one man. If every man did that, there would be serious violence or societal death due to insufficient birthrates (one man cannot support multiple families with time or money as a single man could and there are far less children as a result). A pastor is supposed to be the moral leader of the community, a blameless man for others to emulate.

3. Shows that priesthood is about obtaining worldly goods, and not spiritual goods. The message to other guys in the Church: "I need to join the ranks of the Church so I can get laid!" This rot kills a Church in the long run because the community members stop going to love each other, but instead pose as social climbers. A tremendous amount of corruption and decay to the Catholic and Orthodox Churches have occurred in exactly this manner as well. Eventually the laymen stop going to Church and say "Fuck you" to the hypocrites leading it, with many of them becoming atheists and dooming themselves to Hell. And pastors like this one will share the great burden of this sin on their judgement.

God is never mocked. This priest thinks he can pull a fast one on God, he is obviously an arrogant heretic in a robe.

"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves."

- Matthew 7:15

For every extra wife that he marries from the community, there is a shunned young man who has been pressured to leave either by decree or by need for a wife.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_boys_...mentalism)

This is actually true. And one of the reasons I think that today there's resentment over older man/younger woman pairings is because a lot of we Gen X-ers saw our women being taken by older, divorced Baby Boomer men and hated it. This is a form of "soft polygamy."

I remember getting my first job at a local newspaper and being really happy there were lots of women around who were my age. Then I found out time and time again, they were either having affairs with the older married guys or were dating the divorced ones (in one instance, an older spurned wife of one of these men came into the building and caused a huge scene).

Anyway, ours was the first generation where we had an inordinate amount of divorced men in the next age bracket. This really did affect our dating pool and if there's "age prejudice" now, it's probably because this went on so much and left so many guys out in the cold.

Peter Frost wrote two articles on ratios, effects of divorce laws, and the reentrance of older men on Unz.com.

http://www.unz.com/pfrost/where-are-women/

http://www.unz.com/pfrost/young-male-and-single/

Post: #37

Boss. 58 American man marries 19 year old Filipino.

Post: #38

There is nothing wrong with a wealthy or older man marrying a younger woman. I am all for it.

But on the other hand I rather agree with Samseau on this one. The guy is likely Alpha, but that in itself is no merit of character or ethics. A drug lord who personally killed and tortured hundreds is Alpha too, but I expect more from a pastor.

HIs women by the way:

Quote:HE WIVES AND WOMEN OF THE POLYGAMIST PASTOR
FIRST WIFE
Phyllis - 1972 to 1976
Her age at marriage: 16 or 17
Children: Thomas, 43 and Renee, 41
SECOND WIFE
Mary - 1977 to 1982
Her age at marriage: 17
Children: Michael, 38, Angelina, 35, Leah, 34, Dana, 33
MISTRESS
Jamie, mother of Tom, 31
MISTRESS
Ann, mother of Nick, now 30
THIRD WIFE
Norma Jean Daffner - 1986 to 1993
Her age at marriage: 19
Children: Joseph, 28, and Robert, 27
MISTRESS
Ann Chipuk, mother of Ryan, 24
MISTRESS
Mary Spinelli, mother of a 22-year-old
FOURTH WIFE
Julia - 1999 to January 2009
Her age at marriage: 42
FIFTH WIFE
Belinda - March 2009 - present
Her age at marriage:38
SIXTH 'WIFE'
Reba Kerfoot
Her age at marriage: 19
Children: One due next year

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He got them right in the prime.

That said polygamy should not be tolerated in our times with a deep female shortage in the West. It's not the women who will have problems with that - it's the men.

And yes - it's infitinely better for a hot 8+ girl to be the mistress to a wealthy man for a few years and then later become a loving wife to another man. That was the case in Europe up until the 19th or even mid 20th century. In Russia that is still valid - be a mistress from age 18-22 and then try to marry from age 23 on.

The carousel riding and Alpha widowdom are unrelated to the above mentioned situation of upper-tier men having mistresses.

So no:

1. Polygamy should be banned unless there is a massive male shortage - all examples in history show that it was crap for development as you got a huge unmotivated male underclass - this is still the case in many Muslim countries by the way
2. Mistresses for top-tier men cannot be avoided. This will always be happening. But it's a huge difference between being the mistress to one wealthy bloke than to riding the carousel and fucking NBA players and doing Dubai trips non stop until age 28. The first activity may leave the girl even more or less innocent, but the second will leave her emotionally rotten.

So no - I don't condone the pastor's actions - he has enough kids by more than enough women. I for myself plan to have only one mother of my children and it's by far better to have some honey on the side than to spread your seed like Attila. European aristocracy had it right - one wife, heirs from that and then mistresses for fun. That's way more stable than the Ottoman's empire backstabbing and harem craziness.