Post: #351

(05-27-2018 06:07 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  

(05-24-2018 10:32 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  

(05-24-2018 07:45 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  The biggest redpill, on my end, is having the chance to watch girls use Tinder in real time. I strongly suggest that you try and see it happen - it will shatter any illusion you may still have about online dating.

I can only guess ... your experience? There's a reason I stopped plugging into that cesspool years ago. Your response should be entertaining.

I can visualize the precise moment even now, clear as day.

It was last year. I was in Budapest on my summer vacation. Through a get-together with Matt Forney and several of his friends in the Swedish alt-right-sphere, I managed to meet up and make friends with a well-put-together Swedish guy (his ethnic background half Ukrainian, half Cuban.) As opposed to the interests of the other guys in his group, which primarily revolved around drinking beer and lamenting the current state of affairs in modern Sweden, he (like myself) wanted to experience what the local (and tourist) girls had to offer him in terms of sexual variety.

As it turned out, he had been hosting in his apartment (through Couchsurfing) a French-Algerian girl who was also vacationing in Budapest for the summer. I'll be charitable in saying that this girl was a 6/10 on a good day.

We're all hanging out in his apartment pre-drinking, and somehow (I can't remember how) the topic turns to using Tinder. She's complaining about how hard girls have it on Tinder, how they can't find any decent guys on there. I, having the general sense that girls have more options on Tinder than guys, ask her to pull out her phone and start Tindering.

Have you ever seen any of those videos of super-nerdy Asian guys who, through thousands of hours of practice, get really good at playing computer versions of Dance Dance Revolution? Have you ever seen what their fingers look like on the keyboard? You can imagine that it looks like they're about to mash the keyboard into oblivion.

That was what it looked like when she Tindered. She was blazing through photos of guys so fast you would think she'd be suffering from carpal tunnel syndrome by now. I looked on, in sheer amazement, as hundreds of photos suffered the cruel execution of left-swipes under her unforgiving thumb. Many of these photos were of guys who looked attractive, or athletic, or well put-together. Nope, she said. "Trop douche." I had to stop her at a certain point cause I couldn't take watching it anymore.

Her match count? Well into the 450s.

I had my (well put-together) Swedish friend pull out his Tinder profile to show her, in comparison.

Less than 30.

I then decided, for the fun of it, to try an experiment. I set their two phones, side by side, and started right-swiping on the 100 next profiles to come across. I told her that if she had more than 20 immediate matches, she had to buy us the first round of drinks when we got to the bar. If she had less, we would pay for her drinks the entire night. (She was a student so I didn't make the bet equal, out of a sense of magnaminity.) She readily agreed, thinking that there was no way that could happen.

He had 0 immediate matches.

She had 32. (I know precisely, because I counted.) And something like 10 or so more in the hours thereafter.

Amusingly, her smartphone was buried under a blizzard of so many notifications and messages that she actually felt compelled to turn it off. I guess that counts as some sort of victory.

When I was in the philippines I had close to 2.000 matches in 5 days or so. I was not able to find a "decent girl", so I can relate to this girl and to other girls that are getting hundreds of matches. At some point, you'll have to become a machine to go through the choices. I was matching at 40-50% ratio of the right swipes and lefting like 80% of the pics (granted they were real uglies).

When you have 30-40 matches in a couple weeks, and you rarely match a new one, you kinda "care".

When you have thousands of matches, hundreds of notifications, and match new people the minute you open your phone, well, things start to get real weird. Your expectations now are "Get me sex in 3 texts from 8/10 girl that goes straight to my door". But that doesn't work. Some girls will text you back. Some won't. Some will text you back after 2 days. Some will quickly hook up but shit their fb/ig profile looks horrible. Some girls say they want xyz. But now you have 34 on whatsapp already and you added 8 on facebook. A couple are already commenting on some of your fb pictures and you don't like it. It is 12 hours of work already and you still not sure if you are getting sex tonight.

Given that numbers are sided for you, you go out and get with a girl easily. So you forget about Tinder. It's just trouble. I hooked with a "nice" girl on Tinder. She looked cute on paper (pics) and offered me to tour me through places, suggested we go to an island together, offered helped and looked for a close department store for me, etc... finally i got really a weird feeling that i just blocked. too weird.

I ended up meeting with only one girl from Tinder. And it went nowhere. Not much use for the 2.000 matches.

So yes girls are degen these days but if they had more reasonable tinder match count, they'll behave better.

Girls see the quantity/quality of matches and expect to hook up with a 8/10 man with a top career and stable situation ASAP. The reality is that when they match with such a man the discussion ends up like "hey lets hangout myplace", "send nudes", etc... If he was really genuine and interested then he'll come off as weird and too suspicious. At 500+ matches it no longer has to do with the quality of the man/discussion/interaction but hazard. She will just meet with a "random" dude from a sample of 500 guys for unpredictable reasons (could be a date or a quick hookup).

Post: #352

When i was 16 me and 6-7 guys got head from a normal becky type chick in public bus stop bathroom( We didn't do it together in the same room, everybody waited for their turn)

One of my friends had promised to give her alcohol and cigarettes if she sucked as all funny thing tough is he didn't gave her the shit . The weirdest thing was that when i met her a few weeks after this happened when she was with her female friends, The same guy who made her suck all the guys shamed her in front of her friends and told the story, But she didn't seem fazed at all she was even slightly smiling.

I realized then that you should never trust anyone and believe what they say. Everyone has a facade.

Post: #353

(06-24-2018 07:31 AM)VisionsofGandhi Wrote:  When i was 16 me and 6-7 guys got head from a normal becky type chick in public bus stop bathroom( We didn't do it together in the same room, everybody waited for their turn)

One of my friends had promised to give her alcohol and cigarettes if she sucked as all funny thing tough is he didn't gave her the shit . The weirdest thing was that when i met her a few weeks after this happened when she was with her female friends, The same guy who made her suck all the guys shamed her in front of her friends and told the story, But she didn't seem fazed at all she was even slightly smiling.

I realized then that you should never trust anyone and believe what they say. Everyone has a facade.

So true. Most modern women are expert manipulators & spin doctors heheh. Especially the sluttier they are. They know they have to be.

Post: #354

(06-24-2018 07:35 AM)jordypip23 Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 07:31 AM)VisionsofGandhi Wrote:  When i was 16 me and 6-7 guys got head from a normal becky type chick in public bus stop bathroom( We didn't do it together in the same room, everybody waited for their turn)

One of my friends had promised to give her alcohol and cigarettes if she sucked as all funny thing tough is he didn't gave her the shit . The weirdest thing was that when i met her a few weeks after this happened when she was with her female friends, The same guy who made her suck all the guys shamed her in front of her friends and told the story, But she didn't seem fazed at all she was even slightly smiling.

I realized then that you should never trust anyone and believe what they say. Everyone has a facade.

So true. Most modern women are expert manipulators & spin doctors heheh. Especially the sluttier they are. They know they have to be.

The funny thing is that she has a boyfriend know, Every time i see him he mean-mugs me, Maybe he knows that his title darling isn't that sweet at all

Post: #355

(11-28-2015 04:24 PM)HonantheBarbarian Wrote:  In high school, 10th grade, still a virgin.

A cute girl said I was cute in class that day, and I almost immediately caught feelings for her.

Thereafter she would have me write her a different love letter every day, I bought her chocolates and and bunch of teddy bears and bullshit on Valentine's Day. All the girls in class were like "Awwwwwwwww". Note that I had not gotten so much as a make out at this point.

I went on to find out she got gangbanged by a bunch of senior black dudes over the summer. Fall of 11th grade I came back a different man.

Wait did she tell you to write the letters or did you write them cause you thought of it?

Post: #356

(11-29-2015 06:37 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  Haha I am actually sitting at home now due to being ill, and this thread has made me take a trip down memory lane. Ah well, I remember in my early teenage years a lot of the best looking girls in school would often take trips to the ghetto and get banged by really funky looking drug dealers and degenerates. I mean they weren't even picking the classy looking gangsters, its like they would purposely go for the ones who looked like they had aids. That was a hard pill to take, especially as these girls were put on a massive pedestal, and we were all actually very young, I mean 13 to 15 years old.

Probably one of the positive red pill experiences I had. Was when I started to travel, the whole SJW narrative we get fed to us on a daily basis is actually very oppressive. Whether you like it or not, it starts to seep into you. Although in most parts of the world, it just simply doesn't apply. If you are a man who has ambitions in money, business, getting women, having a family/religion; you are actually well accepted and welcomed.

Working in law enforcement was a big wake up call for me. Seeing how quickly 'shit can hit the fan' and how unprepared most people are when it comes to predators and violence in general. I highly recommend reading the book 'Meditations on Violence' By Sgt Miller.

That experience of yours kind of confirms a couple theories I have. You said they would often "take trips to the ghetto" so I assume these girls weren't from the ghetto themselves and were from an upper or middle class area? I think girls from middle and upper middle class areas have a greater fascination with Alphas/Bad boys and choose to go for them more because they are more likely to see the men in their home location as betas. What city/location was this in if you don't mind me asking?

And you said the girls were 13-15. I noticed when I was in Junior/High School that almost all girls had a preference for older guys. When they said older guys they were mostly referring to guys in their early 20's since that is old to someone in Junior/High school. Were the girls that went to the ghetto mostly going for older guys in there 20's or guys their age?

Post: #357

^ The city he's referring to is London, specifically south London if I recall my conversations with him about it correctly.

Post: #358

(06-25-2018 04:36 AM)Teedub Wrote:  ^ The city he's referring to is London, specifically south London if I recall my conversations with him about it correctly.

Did he say if it was mostly upper class girls doing it? Or what the demographics of the girls and guys was?

Post: #359

(11-29-2015 10:52 AM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  Interesting. I read somewhere that it is practically impossible to have a genuine connection with a person you have over a 15 IQ point difference with. Pretty sure there is at least some truth that.

If that was true then humans wouldn't be able to bond with dogs.

Post: #360

(11-29-2015 10:26 PM)XII Wrote:  4. Neither does your intelligence.
Doesn't require explanation.

5. Getting a date from a gorgeous girl is as easy as getting an average girl.
Or, average girls are as hard as gorgeous ones. The conventionally pretty girls I've hooked up with--models, actresses, etc. took as much effort as the more average girls I've hooked up with. If anyone has had a similar experience or has some insight into why this is, I'm all ears.

I don't agree with these points. Intelligence is a very attractive trait, probably in the top 5 if listing attributes (along with appearance/looks, ambition, fearlessness/risk taking & confidence). Makes complete sense biologically too.

Point #5. The more attractive she is and the closer (or further up) she is to you on a 1-10 scale, the harder it is to get a date with her. That's not to say that they are harder to actually bang once you are on the actual date with her. It's just getting the initial meetup in the first place that involves more shit testing and less room for errors. That is my experience and would also make sense logically. If this wasn't the case then you'd see a lot more 5/10 men with 9/10 women having sex.

Post: #361

One of my many big red pills was the when I came to the realization that people's feelings towards you are purely (or at least 90%) based on what you do for them in terms of elevation of status, lust etc. Hence, even the woman you think is such the sweetheart and you love her because of the "pure" love that she has for you, will turn on you the minute your status (in any possible way) goes down the drain.

In short, people will never love you for you (except your mother), but for what you can do for them. And obviously, I am just the same.

Post: #362

I read some of these responses and am blown away....I work with the public and am privy to certain information and have seen things happen to couples that would make your jaw drop. I've seen couples fighting, know of women that divorce raped their exhusbands, etc. Usually a beautiful woman or middle aged man who constantly comes in alone is a sign of that. I don't think I can contribute much based on the answers here. I am very fortunate to be red pilled with women to not make fatal mistakes with them.

Here's mine:

1) Life is unfair. Some people will make millions and will work less than you. Some of them will be much younger than you. Lucky breaks do happen. Some people are born into wealth and never have to worry about living day by day, paycheck by paycheck. Your parents may have had you at a very late age and die when you're a teen, and conversely your parents were very young when they had you and you grew up poor. You may have been molested as a kid and that fucks you up to this day. I think you get the point.

2) You will never live again. I wish I could believe in reincarnation but it isn't in me, as I'm agnostic. You're getting older day by day (aging sucks, I already feel it as a mid 20s guy) and maybe even living in quiet desperation. Once you die your loved ones might hold a funeral but beyond that your DNA is gone forever. The state will collect your assets and your descendants might fight over your money. The world will continue functioning and most likely not care.

3) We all have 24 hours to do our work. Time doesn't care if you're male, female, gay, straight, black, white, etc. If you continue to waste time it will eventually catch up to you.

Post: #363

Women destroy nations. But only if weak men are the majority. It's the ultimate shit test of natural selection.

Post: #364

(05-31-2018 01:41 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  This reminds me of Patrice O'Neal's classic question for women:

Best comment on that video:

"He gave them rope to swing across a gap but instead they used it to hang themselves."

Post: #365

I wouldn't exactly call what I'm about to narrate as my biggest red pill but here goes nothing.

My friends and I decided to start an entertainment franchise in college. We got a girl to join us (three guys & a girl). She totally screwed us over by lying incessantly, being carefree, and almost leaving us at a critical juncture.

We totally cut her out of the business as she wasn't very forthright. Worst of all, she was our treasurer.

Post: #366

(07-10-2018 09:30 AM)loremipsum Wrote:  Women destroy nations. But only if weak men are the majority. It's the ultimate shit test of natural selection.

It's cyclical (hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men and weak men create hard times etc), and women weaken men. Even Mickey knew that!

Post: #367

If a woman does the job, 7 times out of 10 it's useless make work job in the corporate world. Many times, this is a job she absolutely cannot be fired from under any circumstances since she's filling a quota.

Post: #368

Women

I had a girlfriend once. She had a ton of red flags so I didn't take her seriously. I tried breaking up with her a few times and she absolutely begged for me back. I took her back, still cautious of the red flags. I would neg her all the time, treat her like a bratty little sister. I was genuinely unimpressed.

She was absolutely obsessed with me. She wanted to move in with me. She constantly talked about getting engaged, married, and starting a family with me. She said that she'd "love me forever," "do anything for me," and "would absolutely never end the relationship unless there's cheating."

I started taking her seriously. I got clingy, started treating her really well, being really nice, spending loads of money on her, very physically affectionate. I wanted to spend every moment with her.

It took her about a month to dump me from when she was talking about doing anything for me and loving me for the rest of her life.

What women say are completely conditional on her feelings and your behavior in that moment. Nothing is to be taken seriously past that moment. Nothing is guaranteed. They can completely change in a month.

Life

I was a couple years out of college and confused about my career direction. I had changed jobs a couple of times and had no idea about whether I'd go into finance, tech, or back to school. My parents were getting fed up with me and more or less kicked me out of the house. My uncle had a spare apartment that he couldn't rent out and he was letting me stay there while I looked for jobs.

Within a month he had spoken with my dad and threw me out of his place in the middle of the winter. I had no job and nowhere to go. Luckily I got an offer about two weeks after that for a pretty shitty gig that got me off the street.

I survived two years and two layoffs living paycheck to paycheck. During this time my father probably made a few million in stock market gains. A bunch of my friends stopped speaking to me. Even with homelessness and the continued threat of homelessness, my mother never thought to sneak me some money to give me breathing room. I would sneak a peak at their social media: trips to the Caribbean and Europe, home dinners with a couple interns from their department, replacing me as pseudo adopted children.

I ghosted all three of them-my uncle, my father, and my mother. It was a no-brainer. They didn't provide unconditional love, they didn't provide shelter or money, they gave me no direction on how to make money as an adult. They just threw me to the street to figure it out.

This is when I realized that there's no such thing as family. There's no such thing as friends. There's no such thing as unconditional love. Even my mother only loved me for how much money I made. She would follow my father into hell, even if that meant leaving me to die. I'm on my own in this world. My only value is how much money I make, because that's the only thing that will unconditionally love me.

Post: #369

Red pill for me-

Women aren’t the true romantics- men are. The swiftness with which a woman can go cold on you and act like she doesn’t even know you is unbelievable.

Related- women have a natural propensity for destruction. They can’t handle times of peace- chaos must be manufactured.

Men abuse power to enrich themselves. Women abuse power to destroy others.

Post: #370

Men think by rules.
Women think by exceptions.

If you trade peace of mind for contentment, you'll end up receiving neither.

Post: #371

There's OBVIOUSLY an agenda being pushed. They want to weaken people to the point where defending yourself is wrong

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mountain-...e313ca79e9

They are calling the Mountain lion CUB and kitten in an attempt to shame this man for protecting himself against a 40-pound killer.

Post: #372

@Graft and Dilated - I have the exact same experiences with my women. The moment you show love and feelings of happiness towards them they sabotage everything, subconsciously?...

I have only experienced Western women so my sample size is small but it's sad that you cannot be a honest, caring, loving man towards them.

That is the biggest red pill i have to live with.

Post: #373

(03-02-2019 08:59 AM)Dilated Wrote:  Red pill for me-

Women aren’t the true romantics- men are. The swiftness with which a woman can go cold on you and act like she doesn’t even know you is unbelievable.

Related- women have a natural propensity for destruction. They can’t handle times of peace- chaos must be manufactured.

Men abuse power to enrich themselves. Women abuse power to destroy others.

I just had this effect a few weeks ago. I work a lot, so I do not have a lot of time to give to people, especially women. I had a psuedo gf. We have been together for a good year or so. Were friends prior. Just recently, found out that she had been talking with someone else. At first, she was not responding quickly to my texts when we were suppose to go do stuff. Then she told me that she was seeing someone else cause I was not doing things on her time. It made me realize how savage women become in completely forgetting you were friends and ignoring you fast. What's more I have a feeling she is shittalking me as we speak. I know she's doing it because I've been with two girls so far who did the same to their supposed ex's. I was right there while she looked at old bf's texts and made fun of him. Women truly are non feeling. I'm starting to feel that.

Post: #374

(03-02-2019 08:59 AM)Dilated Wrote:  Red pill for me-

Women aren’t the true romantics- men are. The swiftness with which a woman can go cold on you and act like she doesn’t even know you is unbelievable.

Related- women have a natural propensity for destruction. They can’t handle times of peace- chaos must be manufactured.

Men abuse power to enrich themselves. Women abuse power to destroy others.

Think of it like this, women aren't romantic at all. They simply want a show of romantics to give them a sense of desire. I grew up watching lifetime and romance movies in my early teens to get a heads up on what women like and one thing I noticed is women soak this stuff out without giving anything but sex back. Its a movie to them. If the girl doesn't like you then the romance movie turns into a Suspense movie, If the girl stops liking you then the credits simply roll prematurely. That coldness and harshness is simply them closing one book and starting another.

That's why game is so important. A successful true PICK UP ARTIST paints a picture so beautiful that the woman feels like it's her very own movie. Even if he's hideous it becomes a beauty and the beats style movie. Women WANT to be swept off her feet, women WANT to be the princess saved from the tower.

Dan Bilzerian is living the romance for men. Its the same thing actually, Man gets alot of attention from women. Women are worse because they desire money, time, attention, and creativity.

Post: #375

If there is one red pill that was bitter for me to swallow is this: You're going to have very few friends in life that you'll hold onto in life. The people who you think are your friends are just acquaitaneces and will drop you the moment you're no longer useful to them or you get them out of your comfort zone.

I learned it back in middle school so it hurt me very hard, but I've learned to rely on myself more and less on people.