Post: #26

The strong do what they will, the weak suffer what they must.

Just know that if you decide to return it, coming from a place of strength is considered true altruism.

Post: #27

(11-16-2015 11:30 PM)Zeroblack Wrote:  The strong do what they will, the weak suffer what they must.

Just know that if you decide to return it, coming from a place of strength is considered true altruism.

Thank you

Post: #28

Two answers:

1) No, but I do believe in self-fulfilling prophecies. Say you think that your blue shirt gives you luck, then each time you wear your blue shirt you become unconsciously confident. This will cause you to have a confirmation bias where since you are wearing your blue shirt and it gives you good results you will keep perpetuation this cycle.
2) Yes, somehow everything in the universe seems to happen for a reason. Not in a hard determinism but rather if you are a positive person naturally good things will come to you. If you are a negative person you will see the negative side of others. Now there's a difference between 'good' and 'positive.' A positive person can be evil and want to take advantage of others. However, since he's naturally positive people will be drawn to him. Same with the negative person, who may have the best intentions but is negative in his outlook towards life. For society, appearance is reality.

Post: #29

Karma LOL.

How utterly pathetic.

Post: #30

Well. The owner called back and I returned it the same day, and I'm having the worst week ever. Next phone I find I'm keeping for sure.

Post: #31

I don't believe in Karma. However I would return the phone. I would return the phone because I would hate to lose my phone and not have it returned, it's not even about the price of the phone, it's the fact of losing numbers, pictures, videos and personal notes, I would hate to lose it all and I would feel for somebody if they lose their phones.

I wouldn't return it because I believe in karma or because of my conscience, I would return it because what I don't like being done to me, I avoid doing it to other people. If it was money, I would keep it.

Post: #32

I remember returning a hone to this white girl. She just took it, called me a life saver and walked off.

Post: #33

This is extremely fucked up, but if the wallet I found, had the ID of what I assumed to be a spoiled young white chick, or even a video model black chick. I'm keeping it. Fucked up, I know.

A middle class man, or even working class mother, and I'll give that shit up in a heartbeat.

Post: #34

(11-16-2015 12:31 PM)the Thing Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 12:21 PM)Pride male Wrote:  Karma does exist. I feel the universe does speak to us. You reap what you sow, the truth will out, you get what you give and what goes around comes around.

I feel like that's mostly social conditioning. The universe only punished me for my own inaction so far, be it oversleeping for finals, not working hard enough, slacking off. I'm not responsible for some guy losing his phone, why should I get punished for it? I lost stuff before and I didn't blame anyone only myself for losing it.

That being said I have the phone running and I'll meet the owner and give it back if he calls it back. No way I'm driving all the way back to where I found it.

So this is only a discussion about the concept of Karma. I'm only wondering what you guys think.

Like you said, of course return it, on your terms only.

I found peoples keys, wallets and phone, and I turn it into the security office etc, I will never waste my time finding the person. Fuck them. I lost my cell phone, the phone was never return it to me.

If they want it, come and get it.

Post: #35

Karma is very very real.

Fear it.

The more I do good in the world, the more abundance and fortune comes my way.

Post: #36

I totally believe it.

"As you sow, so shall you reap".

It is said that the effect of your actions is even extending to next lives.
For instance, you seemingly did nothing wrong, but you're fucked in life. It could be a result of your prior life's actions.
Like some people in concentration camps might have done something wrong in previous lives.

Post: #37

Karma may not be real but a guilty conscience is.

Post: #38

(11-16-2015 09:19 PM)dies irae Wrote:  In 2010, I lost my phone while entering a stadium for a football game. When I found my seat I realised that my phone is not in my pocket anymore. Since there were 60000 people in the audience, I wrote the phone off and decided to enjoy the game. It was this game:


While watching the second half of the game, the man next to me was holding my phone in his hand and asked me "is this yours?". I said yes and asked him where did he find it. He said it was passed to him from the adjacent seat. I realised that my phone traveled the whole tribune from hand to hand until it found its owner. Not a single person in the audience pocketed it.

To this day, I still find it incredible.

This is a great story, but if someone found the phone, how did anyone know where you were in the stadium?

Post: #39

(11-16-2015 09:19 PM)dies irae Wrote:  In 2010, I lost my phone while entering a stadium for a football game. When I found my seat I realised that my phone is not in my pocket anymore. Since there were 60000 people in the audience, I wrote the phone off and decided to enjoy the game. It was this game:

While watching the second half of the game, the man next to me was holding my phone in his hand and asked me "is this yours?". I said yes and asked him where did he find it. He said it was passed to him from the adjacent seat. I realised that my phone traveled the whole tribune from hand to hand until it found its owner. Not a single person in the audience pocketed it.

To this day, I still find it incredible.

This is a great story, but if someone found the phone, how did anyone know where you were in the stadium?

Post: #40

^^
It could be anybody's phone in the stadium, so it was passed from hand to hand until it found its owner.

Post: #41

I'd always give the phone back because I'm not a thief.

Thieves, liars and cheats are as low as pedophiles and ACTUAL rapists to me. I hate liars and thieves.

But no, I don't believe in karma. I do believe if you rip enough people off someone is bound to rip your head off though, so act accordingly.

Post: #42

I've come to believe through years of experience that what goes around does tend to come back around. It may not be perfect, because people are born into different circumstances, meaning life is inherently unfair, meaning you can't expect to get exactly what you want just because you give a lot, nor can you expect a bad person (ie someone who barely gives anything) to "get what they deserve" either.

But relative to where we start out, I do think that over time that people essentially reap what they sew.

Post: #43

^Yup, sometimes bad things happen to bad people.

Post: #44

I personally believe in karma but, however i do not think that it is applies to everyone. For one, you see homeless veterans everywhere, at least one per city, however you don't see drug dealers being railed in (or rather just being put in jail). I think it exists but it affects you views not your whole life. Had you returned the phone you would know that that person is happier knowing that they have their phone. You wont be effected in the long term but in your own social circles you will be acknowledged as one to trust. You will gain nothing but higher social standards. Karma does exist but does not deal as well as one would think. Some believe it to be almighty, others do not (example would be me i suppose).