This video is worth a viewing and provides a refreshing outlook on what is happening in the world today.. all fueled by neo-colonialism

(11-22-2015 02:55 AM)spokepoker Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 06:20 PM)Direct or subtle Wrote:  France has just taken a step towards disarming.. French normal, honest, worried people..

A law has just been passed, to prevent people with no criminal knowledge or links to underworld, or hunters, from getting serious weapons :

I explain : Most normal people, if they want a weapon, they'd buy 2 weapons that have been demilitarized (neutralized) in 2 different European countries, and then re-assemble them. Now, this will be impossible, because European States will use the same techniques for neutralizing weapons..

I mean, criminals never used this pain-in-the-neck technique, criminals just got their weapons from Sarajevo gangs.. only regular people and hunters used this technique.. anyway, now it'll become impossible for concerned citizens to get weapons.

But more worryingly, the new French "Etat d'Urgence" law allows the State to confiscate weapons that you have legally acquired and keep at home!

Is there an english article that talks about this? Or something in French I can run through google translate?

http://www.europe1.fr/politique/hollande...ce-2620859

"L'état d'urgence permet aux autorités "d'interdire la circulation des personnes" et d'instituer "des zones de protection ou de sécurité" où le séjour des personnes est réglementé, selon la loi de 1955. La déclaration de l'état d'urgence, annoncée par François Hollande après les attentats, s'applique depuis samedi minuit "sur le territoire métropolitain et en Corse". Un second décret comporte des dispositions spécifiques applicables "à l'ensemble des communes d'Ile-de-France", comme la possibilité d'assigner à résidence toute personne "dont l'activité s'avère dangereuse pour la sécurité et l'ordre public", d'ordonner la fermeture provisoire de salles de spectacle ou encore la confiscation de certaines catégories d'armes."

http://www.mediapart.fr/journal/internat...-en-europe

Just read an article about muslim reaction in France. Many say the same stuff like they do all the time. Its not Islam, its not Muslims. Its the fault of the west, its the zionist jews and the media. Muslims are the true victims and this attack is made up to create more hate against Muslims.
Also they say that the people burned the Quran.

http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/artic...Islam.html

Für viele junge Muslime in Frankreich sind die Anschläge Erfindungen der Geheimdienste, als Opfer sehen sie nur sich selbst. Mit Fakten ist nichts auszurichten. Schuld sind für sie sowieso die Juden.

(11-22-2015 05:07 PM)Parzival Wrote:  Many say the same stuff like they do all the time. Its not Islam, its not Muslims. Its the fault of the west, its the zionist jews and the media.

Which is absolutely right.
The Muslims are used as the Bogeyman.
Divide and conquer.
Many on both sides still fall for that.

(11-22-2015 04:59 PM)Direct or subtle Wrote:  

(11-22-2015 02:55 AM)spokepoker Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 06:20 PM)Direct or subtle Wrote:  France has just taken a step towards disarming.. French normal, honest, worried people..

A law has just been passed, to prevent people with no criminal knowledge or links to underworld, or hunters, from getting serious weapons :

I explain : Most normal people, if they want a weapon, they'd buy 2 weapons that have been demilitarized (neutralized) in 2 different European countries, and then re-assemble them. Now, this will be impossible, because European States will use the same techniques for neutralizing weapons..

I mean, criminals never used this pain-in-the-neck technique, criminals just got their weapons from Sarajevo gangs.. only regular people and hunters used this technique.. anyway, now it'll become impossible for concerned citizens to get weapons.

But more worryingly, the new French "Etat d'Urgence" law allows the State to confiscate weapons that you have legally acquired and keep at home!

Is there an english article that talks about this? Or something in French I can run through google translate?

http://www.europe1.fr/politique/hollande...ce-2620859

"L'état d'urgence permet aux autorités "d'interdire la circulation des personnes" et d'instituer "des zones de protection ou de sécurité" où le séjour des personnes est réglementé, selon la loi de 1955. La déclaration de l'état d'urgence, annoncée par François Hollande après les attentats, s'applique depuis samedi minuit "sur le territoire métropolitain et en Corse". Un second décret comporte des dispositions spécifiques applicables "à l'ensemble des communes d'Ile-de-France", comme la possibilité d'assigner à résidence toute personne "dont l'activité s'avère dangereuse pour la sécurité et l'ordre public", d'ordonner la fermeture provisoire de salles de spectacle ou encore la confiscation de certaines catégories d'armes."

http://www.mediapart.fr/journal/internat...-en-europe

I'll try to translate this but my French is a bit rusty. hopefully its better than Google translate, which can be awful:

"The state of emergency allows authorities to ban the movement of people and to institute zones of protection or security or people's staying (living in one particular place for a period of time), is regulated, according to the law of 1955. The declaration of the state of emergency, announced by Hollande after the attacks, has been in effect since Saturday at midnight in the metropolitan area and Corsica. A second decree contains specific provisions applicable to all communities in the Ile de France (Paris) such as the possibility to assign residence to all people who's activities are deemed dangerous to security and public order, to order the provisional closing of concert halls or even the confiscation of certain categories or arms"

My french is pretty fluent and that was spotless to be honest scotian.

(11-21-2015 09:59 PM)wi30 Wrote:  IKE, I'm against people using a tragic massacre to attention whore on the internet. All the "love" and "prayers" aren't bringing those victims back. As others have said, France doesn't need solidarity or candlelit vigils. They need a set of testicles to win back their country.

Please tell me how imposing a flag (French, rainbow, or otherwise) on your profile picture is doing anything constructive in the real world? All it does is shout, "Look at me! I'm totes progressive and support (insert latest thing)." People who truly make a difference in the world don't post about it on the internet.

Also note every single person who imposed the flag on their profile is a left leaning pussy who wears pink in October, supports Hitlery or Bernie, and defends feminism. Coincidence?

?????

To me its a sign of respect, especially in Frances case where the previous incident that happened with the cartoons the French ..instead of the weak watered down pussies in Australia actually showed support to the victims!
(Australia did the fucking stupid #ILLRIDEWITHYOU and barely mentioned the people held hostage)

If anything the people that did this would by hypocrites for not doing Lebanon/Mali etc


Most of the people I know that did the French flag are far more right than left.

I find the rainbow stuff ridiculous considering the treatment homosexuals receive in Islamic countries etc (but SJW pick their targets wisely...like they go after white men who land stuff on comets but leave alone islam)

Muslims have been abusing Europe for 1400 years now. Great video on the denial of white people to face the reality of Islam. Very informative if your history is not up to snuff.

I am surprised there are not more videos of Dauglas Murray here, the guy is quite good destroying pro-immigration supporter. Here he destroying the colonization guilt argument .

(11-20-2015 12:14 PM)72 and sunny Wrote:  The explosive vest she triggered killed a police dog named Diesel and ripped her to shreds, sending her head and spine hurtling out a window.

“After a long firefight, we heard a loud explosion,” French police chief Jean-Michel Fauvergue told the Daily Mirror.

“The windows of an apartment were shattered, blown from inside to out . . . That’s when we saw a human body, a woman’s head, fly through the window and land on the pavement — on the other side of the street.”

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Damn, that's some next level attention whoring.

Suicide vest selfie before head-flying-off impact.

That's not a way to get ahead in life.

I have been following this thread for a bit, a lot of great contributions.

I want to give some background, I am a christian Syrian who has been living in the West for about a decade now. I used to regularly visit Syria until the recent events. If it wasn't for the war I would have probably dropped a datasheet on the major cities. The demographics and culture is similar to Lebanon and very different from the rest of the Arab countries.

As many have predicted here, I see this as the start of a full on civil war in Europe. Multiculturalism propaganda has been ongoing since the end of WW2. France was bringing Algerians, Germany bringing Turks and Britain bringing Pakistanis ect. It is peculiar that the first generation of immigrants seemed better integrated than their off-springs who were born in the West and speak the language. Or is it maybe because they were still in the minority ? Regardless, it is clear that they have a very little allegiance to anything European. The current wave of immigrants only escalate things, of course the majority aren't even Syrians.

Now what do all those immigrants have in common ? Why are they synonymous with no-go zones, systematic rape of western girls (preferably blondes), prostitution rings and finally terrorist attacks? Usually the simplest answer is the correct. The common factor here is of course the "religion of peace" aka Islam.

We are not talking about russian/chinese mafias, gypsie looters or south American drug lords. No, these people commit crime for money, it is much easier to deal with that. The goal of Islam is the submission of the non-believers, this is a war against your very existence and culture. To justify or rationalize these attacks differently, as many leftists do, is to dismiss 1,400 years of recorded history along with the majority of the content from the Koran (and the Sira and Hadith).

Failure to understand this is the biggest threat facing westerners. Learning from history is crucial, and let's just say you don't want to be on the losing side against Islam. It definitely does not end happily for a Dhimmi or a Kafer in multicultural Sharia dreamland.

The extremists are much more intelligent than people give them credits. Sure, they use deluded Muslims teenagers to do their bidding, but the people on top are actually western educated and articulate, fully versed in Islamic studies and very much accustomed to using technology. Of course it doesn't hurt that they are well funded by the Gulf states. The "moderate" who hasn't even read half the koran would never dare debate someone like that.

"Moderate" muslims are actually more dangerous and effective than the "extremists". The moderate is ignorant about a lot of the teachings but unequivocally believes in the veracity of the Koran ( even as he drinks and smokes). They all listen to the Imam when they go to the mosque. There, after they are done with the rituals, they are filled with what can only be called hate speech. This is directed at the Kifars (unbelievers), the Dhimmis (Christians and jews) and everyone else. Islamic teachings make the main Kampf look like pro jewish propaganda. What muslims are doing is biding their time until they grow to a sufficient enough number, this is the stage we are at in Europe and where the action start.

Islam advocates ( by following the example of Mohamad) to play the victim role when in the minority. As your number increase, your demands also increase. This is seen now with the rise of Halal food. This is an indirect tax on every non-muslim customer in the grocery store because the cost is bundled with non-halal items as not to raise the price of halal food. Of course this requires "clean" Muslim men to perform the (brutal) preparation, meaning more jobs for muslims less for the rest.

Then Muslims will be offended at everything non-believers do. For example muslims men refuse to be helped by western female nurses, vice versa for muslim women. Slowly, this transforms into a full blown no-go zone, where non-muslims will be harassed and violated for any misdemeanor by Islam's standards.

Once in majority, the muslims will vote for Sharia law. This is demonstrated by every new poll coming out from muslims communities. Yes, even your peaceful muslims neighbor who is a perfect citizen and have known you for a decade wants sharia.

Historically, after sharia is implemented the countdown starts until there is nothing but muslims in the country. All Dhimmis have to either leave, convert or pay jizzia and for the rest, well either to die or convert. This is what happened in the middle east (specifically the original christian regions of the Mediterranean including syria, Iraq, Lebanon..). You are considered conquered and the Koran sanctions the treatment of conquered people as booty and sell them into slavery. Of course, muslims were not exactly good at creating much value in the conquered countries.

This is what the Caliph Umar wrote in one of his letter regarding the treatment of Dhimmis:

"Neither you nor the Muslims who are with you should treat the unbelievers as booty and share them out [as salves]...if you take the poll tax from them you have no claim on them or right over them. Have you considered, if we take them and share them out, what will be left for the Muslims to come after us ? By God, the muslims would not find a man to talk to and profit from his labors. The Muslims of our dat will eat [from the work of] these people as long as they live, and when they die, our sons will eat from their sons forever, as long as they remain, for they are slaves for the religion of Islam as long as the religion of Islam shall prevail [...] "

and that's how you got the Muslims golden age. Thankfully the Syria that I lived in was completely secular.

I realize there are bigger forces at play. The elites who all happen by magical coincidence to be Jewish all advocates for this exodus. There is a lot of history tied to Jewish elites using Islamic invasion to their favor. A further examination of the Spanish inquisition would help understand this seemingly suicidal move. Going further back, you can see it with the fall Byzantine empire as well as others.

I realize this might not all fit in this thread, I wasn't sure seeing as there is multiple ones that deal with this.

(11-22-2015 11:40 PM)syrianguy Wrote:  "Moderate" muslims are actually more dangerous and effective than the "extremists". The moderate is ignorant about a lot of the teachings but unequivocally believes in the veracity of the Koran ( even as he drinks and smokes). They all listen to the Imam when they go to the mosque. There, after they are done with the rituals, they are filled with what can only be called hate speech. This is directed at the Kifars (unbelievers), the Dhimmis (Christians and jews) and everyone else. Islamic teachings make the main Kampf look like pro jewish propaganda. What muslims are doing is biding their time until they grow to a sufficient enough number, this is the stage we are at in Europe and where the action start.

This is very true. Once again a person just has to look outside the arab muslim world to countries like Indonesia to see everyone is effected by this even if they are not part of the broader arab muslim cultural sphere. It's really the same anywhere islamism becomes imbedded in the society and broader culture. It taints everything and so called moderates will turn a blind eye to the worst extremes of islam when it starts happening.

This has happened before and it will happen again.

(11-22-2015 11:49 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(11-22-2015 11:40 PM)syrianguy Wrote:  "Moderate" muslims are actually more dangerous and effective than the "extremists". The moderate is ignorant about a lot of the teachings but unequivocally believes in the veracity of the Koran ( even as he drinks and smokes). They all listen to the Imam when they go to the mosque. There, after they are done with the rituals, they are filled with what can only be called hate speech. This is directed at the Kifars (unbelievers), the Dhimmis (Christians and jews) and everyone else. Islamic teachings make the main Kampf look like pro jewish propaganda. What muslims are doing is biding their time until they grow to a sufficient enough number, this is the stage we are at in Europe and where the action start.

This is very true. Once again a person just has to look outside the arab muslim world to countries like Indonesia to see everyone is effected by this even if they are not part of the broader arab muslim cultural sphere. It's really the same anywhere islamism becomes imbedded in the society and broader culture. It taints everything and so called moderates will turn a blind eye to the worst extremes of islam when it starts happening.

This has happened before and it will happen again.

Very good points. Where are the Muslims today who seek to wear a symbol, utter a word, or in some way differentiate themselves from terrorism? The value of terrorism as a strategy in war is made possible by a populace that the individual terrorist can fade away into. So if Muslims truly were opposed to it, where is the self policing required to stop the bad guys from disappearing back into their own society? Like if the see someone they have known associates with radicals, dump a bucket of neon paint on the m'fer. Stick a yellow smiley sticker on his back. Do *something* to differentiate that "hey, he isn't one of us" because now they seem pretty complacent to let shit happen.

(11-22-2015 11:40 PM)syrianguy Wrote:  I realize there are bigger forces at play. The elites who all happen by magical coincidence to be Jewish all advocates for this exodus. There is a lot of history tied to Jewish elites using Islamic invasion to their favor. A further examination of the Spanish inquisition would help understand this seemingly suicidal move.

Syrianguy, thanks for your insight. In reference to your above quote, could you expand on this, or recommend any books or links to further study this connection. It's obvious to see Israeli fingerprints on this meddling in Arab nations, but like you said it's a seemingly suicidal move. How would advancing an Islamic invasion benefit Israel and the Jews? Logic says the more Islam spreads the more threatened their existence is. I am curious to understand this. Is it a proxy war coupled with Marxism to defeat the Christian faith? Removal of Muslims to make land for a greater Israel?

(11-22-2015 12:31 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Contrasting opinions.

Clinton wins the RETWEETS slightly but Trump wins the tweet LIKES by a margin. This tells me that Trump's view is more popular but people still fear rejection by broadcasting it.

While SJWs want more Muslim immigration, Obama expels Iraqi Christians who fled Daesh.

Quote:27 Iraqi Christians face deportation in U.S. while Obama offers asylum to thousands of Muslims from Syria

A small group of Iraqi Christians persecuted in their homeland are wondering why they are being deported from the U.S. while the Obama administration is trying its best to justify giving asylum to thousands of Muslim refugees from Syria.

A total of 27 Chaldean Christians who have been driven from their homeland by Al Qaeda and ISIS militants managed to enter the U.S. from Mexico in April and May this year, Fox News reported.

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/27.../71278.htm

(11-23-2015 12:08 AM)Tex Pro Wrote:  

Ask that bitch in the violet dress how many "refugees" she is going to move to her house? let see if she is so open about it when Hamed see her infidel legs being exposed.

That woman in the video is stupid. All buzzwords and no substance. She's the type of person that thinks feelings equal facts. Her and people like her can't possibly grasp the complexities of geopolitics yet they always have to add their two cents. The whole piece repeatedly showed she just didn't understand.

(11-23-2015 01:01 AM)Mike5055 Wrote:  That woman in the video is stupid. All buzzwords and no substance. She's the type of person that thinks feelings equal facts. Her and people like her can't possibly grasp the complexities of geopolitics yet they always have to add their two cents. The whole piece repeatedly showed she just didn't understand.

Fucking embarrassment to my country, she's a Rhodes school and an "all star" member of parliament in Canada's new federal government being appointed to the cabinet of Canada as trade minister.

(11-23-2015 12:20 AM)Spectrumwalker Wrote:  

(11-22-2015 11:40 PM)syrianguy Wrote:  I realize there are bigger forces at play. The elites who all happen by magical coincidence to be Jewish all advocates for this exodus. There is a lot of history tied to Jewish elites using Islamic invasion to their favor. A further examination of the Spanish inquisition would help understand this seemingly suicidal move.

Syrianguy, thanks for your insight. In reference to your above quote, could you expand on this, or recommend any books or links to further study this connection. It's obvious to see Israeli fingerprints on this meddling in Arab nations, but like you said it's a seemingly suicidal move. How would advancing an Islamic invasion benefit Israel and the Jews? Logic says the more Islam spreads the more threatened their existence is. I am curious to understand this. Is it a proxy war coupled with Marxism to defeat the Christian faith? Removal of Muslims to make land for a greater Israel?

Yes, a book that I stumbled upon in a public library out of all places describes the jewish role in Islamic history. It is called "The Jews of Islam" by Bernard Lewis. It is easy to read, what I like is that the author does not tone down history to make it fit in with the narrative. I disagree with some of his conclusions.

There are a lot of Arab historians ( including some muslim scholars) who have researched this area of history. The books are all in arabic, I might share later. However, a simple google search on jews in muslim invasions will bring you a lot of information about the jews opening the gates to the invaders (literally) in many historically instances.

I have made a few observations from my readings. First, the original Muslims were bedouin without much of a background in fighting wars. Their victory against the Persian empire is almost inexplicable. The Persians were wary from fighting too many wars and had many internal problems but they still had number and experience on their side. Persia contained a minority jewish population and the allegation is that the muslims were receiving help from those secret insider as to where to attack and when. In Constantinople, the same allegations were made.

As far as the spanish invasion, you can read "Farewell Espana the world of Sephardim remembered" by Howard M.Sachar. Clearly blaming the jewish elites and even showing that jews fought ALONG the invading armies of the Moors.

Islam invasion and subsequent islamization of the regions is truly remarkable. They used deceit to their complete advantage. However, as historians point out, they seem to be always aided by "insiders" as to where to attack and when.

The same thing can be said today of ISIS who actually appear very tactful at times as if they are getting real time feed. A lot of them are recruited from outside and don't even know the syrian land that well. Rumors of course is that they receive intelligence form the MOSSAD

Again quoting Dan Simmons, but his 2006 defence of his story The Time Traveler bears some reading on this:

http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_05.htm

Quote:Many of those most outraged see the world in pre-primer Marxist terms—i.e. that all human beings and societies are, at core, in the alpha and the omega of our souls, economic entities, and that we react first, last, and always to economic stimuli. By that reasoning, radical Islam—and the brutalities, murders, and even the attempts at genocide currently being carried out in its name —are nothing more than anguished cries from people who have been doomed to poverty and colonial status by the real evil loosed in the world: western capitalism.

Never mind the mountains of evidence that refute that theory (the wealth and privileged status of the Al-Qaeda leaders, including bin Laden, or the wealth and privileged student status of the nineteen 9/11 hijackers, or the fact that radical Islam throughout the Arab world finds its primary support among the educated upper-middle classes) and the almost total lack of evidence to support it (poor people throughout history have not resorted to suicide attacks against innocents), the "poverty and inequality are the reasons" advocates with their impassioned postings will never be convinced otherwise. To see the current global civilizational war as being between life-affirming Western values and the death-demanding values of radical Islam would simply destroy the entire underpinnings of such sophomoric post-Marxist thought—especially the illusion that all humans are, at heart, the same, and respond to the same prime imperatives (life, love, tolerance, a better life for their families) and therefore react reasonably to social and economic stimuli above all other factors.

Double posting, but, added to this, compare and contrast your average SJW to the average jihadist: typically educated, upper-middle class, perennial and/or former university students. Not to mention that most of the leftie rage machine took root first and strongest in the chattering champagne classes.

^@syrianguy Deep down and certainly under the apparent dispute between Israel and the Arab world over Palestine, Jews and Muslims share one very important raison d'être: their historical opposition to European 'Caesarism'. Judaism was born in the Roman province of Judea when the last temple was destroyed while much of Islam was influenced by the Byzantine Caesar's rejection of Mohammed's claims.

Christianity in contrast, renders that which is God's to God and that which is Caesar's to Caesar thus allowing the Christian to have a religious and secular allegiance. It was only when corrupt Caesars wanted Christians' religious allegiance (that which is God's) did the persecutions begin.

As late as the 20th Century, secular Caesarism still existed in Europe in its Germanic (West Roman Empire) and Russian (East/ Byzantine Roman Empire) forms but were both destroyed: the Kaiser and the Tzar both theoretical Caesars fell due to the revolution which can be traced to the freeing of the revolutionary Barabbas in the court of Pilate. In both Germany and Russia, the fates of the Second Reich and Byzantine Russia were said to be due to Jewish influence out of proportion to the population.

In Europe, the last remnant of Caesarism is the Roman Church which is led by the pontifix maximus and the Roman curia. Outside Christendom, when people think of Christianity, they think of Rome.

What are people in the West likely to be called if they oppose the international SJW agenda? Fascist. Isn't historical Fascism the attempted revival of the Roman ethos married to the return of the Roman Church's medieval guild system (the corporate state)?

(11-23-2015 12:28 AM)N°6 Wrote:  

(11-22-2015 12:31 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Contrasting opinions.

Clinton wins the RETWEETS slightly but Trump wins the tweet LIKES by a margin. This tells me that Trump's view is more popular but people still fear rejection by broadcasting it.

While SJWs want more Muslim immigration, Obama expels Iraqi Christians who fled Daesh.

Quote:27 Iraqi Christians face deportation in U.S. while Obama offers asylum to thousands of Muslims from Syria

A small group of Iraqi Christians persecuted in their homeland are wondering why they are being deported from the U.S. while the Obama administration is trying its best to justify giving asylum to thousands of Muslim refugees from Syria.

A total of 27 Chaldean Christians who have been driven from their homeland by Al Qaeda and ISIS militants managed to enter the U.S. from Mexico in April and May this year, Fox News reported.

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/27.../71278.htm

Hope this gets picked up more mainstream media. I have a feeling it won't though.

It's amazing how many great perspectives we get on RVF. We have members from all of Europe and Americas, even Ethiopian helicopter war pilots and now Syrian. This kind of high level discourse can't be found anywhere else.