Post: #1

Something I have been thinking about as I get older.

Provided you have a hot (7 or higher) naked 18 to 25 year old girl in front of you, and take ZERO pills or supplements like viagra or anything similar...
Realistically, until what age can a man still get a proper hard erection and make a girl pregnant ?
I know for a fact that men in their 60s are still banging and becoming fathers with younger women.

I'm thinking it won't be the same for all men, but an average should somewhere between age 70 and 80 depending on overall health and lifestyle.

Anyone have any "hard" data ?

Post: #2

(11-12-2015 06:55 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  Anyone have any "hard" data ?

A 55 year old red pill dude I know from work bangs 30-40 year old cougars left and right like a fucking impact drill.

Honestly if I was 55 and God forbid, dead, I'd rise from the grave for a hot 18 year old.

Post: #3

So long as the mental part of the equation is good to go (i.e., you really are attracted to the body in front of you), it's really just a question of plumbing. The arterioles that supply blood to the erectile tissue in the penis slowly become clogged with fatty deposits over time, just like all of your other arteries. That's why the maximum hardness you can achieve decreases as you age. After too much cloggage, no erection at all. That's also why a good doctor will treat the guys who show up at his door asking for Viagra as the early-stage heart disease patients that they almost always are. Depressing, but true. And you can reverse heart disease with improvements in diet and exercise, but most people aren't nearly disciplined enough to do that.

Post: #4

There is no limit as long as you stay healthy, as you get older if you have to be more serious with your diet.

Viagra should be your last resort, a good exercise program with a focus on building leg strength will have your "johnson" performing nicely.

This is first hand experience, not some bro science I copied.

Post: #5

^ I hear Kegels helps too. I think the idea is that leg exercises, even walking, help to strengthen your pelvic floor muscles (in addition to the regular benefits of exercise).

One thing I know works is Arginine supplements or just eating vegetables high in Nitric Oxide, such as beets or celery. Nitric Oxide helps with vasodilation.

Post: #6

(11-12-2015 08:46 PM)Tactician Wrote:  ^ I hear Kegels helps too. I think the idea is that leg exercises, even walking, help to strengthen your pelvic floor muscles (in addition to the regular benefits of exercise).

One thing I know works is Arginine supplements or just eating vegetables high in Nitric Oxide, such as beets or celery. Nitric Oxide helps with vasodilation.

I can add from first hand experience that kegels helps and jelqing helps even more. Not much length increase (don't want to derail the thread into a dick size contest but I would say like a 10-15% gain) but I gained almost a whole inch in girth and my erections are way stronger.

I wonder if there's any other jelqing enthusiasts here.

Post: #7

(11-12-2015 09:26 PM)the Thing Wrote:  

(11-12-2015 08:46 PM)Tactician Wrote:  ^ I hear Kegels helps too. I think the idea is that leg exercises, even walking, help to strengthen your pelvic floor muscles (in addition to the regular benefits of exercise).

One thing I know works is Arginine supplements or just eating vegetables high in Nitric Oxide, such as beets or celery. Nitric Oxide helps with vasodilation.

I can add from first hand experience that kegels helps and jelqing helps even more. Not much length increase (don't want to derail the thread into a dick size contest but I would say like a 10-15% gain) but I gained almost a whole inch in girth and my erections are way stronger.

I wonder if there's any other jelqing enthusiasts here.

Jelqing Thread

Post: #8

A lot of older dudes get ED problems because their wives or girlfriends are the same age as them. Old hags with spent ovaries.

That'd make a high school senior guy go limp.

World's best ED fix: Hot, young, firm, nubile females.

Post: #9

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Post: #10

Socrates was a new father at approximately 70 years old.

Post: #11

It's more than age 51. Will check back in 2025 with further information.

Post: #12

I'm nearly 50 and walk around like a tent pole, banging 20-30yo girls. Staying healthy, increased T ( supplements) help, it is also nice to meet new women and pound some young bitch for the first time. If i want to be a porn star for a weekend i take half a Cialis and smoke some weed, then it the full monty for three days.

Zinc tablets also help in that regard. Im hoping i can keep ploughing through women into my 70s, I don't see why not, if you're healthy and still have that sparkle in your eye :-)

Post: #13

Cut the porn and estrogenic foods and throw in testosterone heavy exercises, I'd say 89.

Obviously there is loss at som level, but poor western lifestyles are more of an issue than biological degradation.

Genghis Khan is said to be have fathered thousands. Just logistically not all of that could have been done in his teens to early thirties.

And an ex factor, being in the constant presence of nubile women helps immensely.

WIA

Post: #14

(11-12-2015 10:41 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  Socrates was a new father at approximately 70 years old.

The famous movie star Charlie Chaplin had his last child at age 73.


His wife Oona O'Neil was 36 years younger than him.
They married when she was 18 and he was 54 and had 8 children together.

Provided she wasn't cheating on him, then this is one of the most amazing cases for a man's potential in achieving erections and being able to make a woman pregnant well into his old age...provided that woman is very attractive and much younger than him.

What's vital in this story is that all this happened decades before Viagra (or any other medication or supplements that produce artificial erections) even existed.

The photos speak for themselves:

Post: #15

(11-13-2015 05:15 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(11-12-2015 10:41 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  Socrates was a new father at approximately 70 years old.

The famous movie star Charlie Chaplin had his last child at age 73.


His wife Oona O'Neil was 36 years younger than him.
They married when she was 18 and he was 54 and had 8 children together.

Provided she wasn't cheating on him, then this is one of the most amazing cases for a man's potential in achieving erections and being able to make a woman pregnant well into his old age...provided that woman is very attractive and much younger than him.

What's vital in this story is that all this happened before Viagra or other medication or supplements that produced artificial erections.

The photos speak for themselves:

^ Chaplin ;

Post: #16

I'll derail this thing.

I don't have (much) trouble getting it up but I have an extremely hard time keeping my focus all the way to orgasm.

I enjoy my time with a girl all the way from approach to sealing the deal. But once foreplay is over and I'm in, my devil starts speaking to me:
"Yep you did it, now wrap it up go home and pour yourself a drink."
"It feels more or less the same inside every pussy, what's so special with this one?"
"Poon is good but don't you wish her [body part] was [minor improvement]?"

The past month or so I fucked 5 women (3 new, 2 from before) and it has been the same for all of them. Once I was even thinking "man, I could be writing code for [side project] instead of doing this". Earlier today I was fucking some woman (the mother from the mother/daughter thread) I went at it like a power tool for more than an hour and the only way I could come was contracting every single muscle in my body and imagining her making out with the daughter while I was going at it standing from behind. Now my LTR is lying in bed in the next room, 2-3 years ago I would definitely go for round 2 with the fresh poon but now I'm not even thinking about going near her.

Can it be fap related? I fap to porn like 3-4 times a week. I'm not sure if it's fap related because from a few years ago I remember some time in Russia where I would wake up, jerk off and go back to sleep, wake up again in a few hours, fuck a hooker (or girl from last night if there was one) before breakfast, fuck another hooker after breakfast, chill with a couple glasses of scotch at a cafe, attack the streets to pipeline some pussy for later/another day (and to expand my portfolio), eat some chow, meet one of the portfolio girls and fuck once or twice, then still go for night game/on a date with a girl I pipelined from earlier and cum a few more times (or go for another hooker if I couldn't seal the deal). One time I went to a brothel-apartment, there were 6 girls on call and I fucked them all one by one. I was fapping to porn back then too.

Or can this be the beginning of ED? First you lose focus then interest then the boner? It seems T levels start dropping after 25 years old. I'm in my late twenties.

Post: #17

(11-13-2015 07:24 PM)the Thing Wrote:  Can it be fap related? I fap to porn like 3-4 times a week. I'm not sure if it's fap related because from a few years ago I remember some time in Russia where I would wake up, jerk off and go back the sleep, wake up again in a few hours, fuck a hooker (or girl from last night if there was one) before breakfast, fuck another hooker after breakfast, chill with a couple glasses of scotch at a cafe, attack the streets to pipeline some pussy for later/another day (and to expand my portfolio), eat some chow, meet one of the portfolio girls and fuck once or twice, then still go for night game/on a date with a girl I pipelined from earlier and cum a few more times (or go for another hooker if I couldn't seal the deal). One time I went to a brothel-apartment, there were 6 girls on call and I fucked them all one by one. I was fapping to porn back then too.

Or can this be the beginning of ED? First you lose focus then interest then the boner? It seems T levels start dropping after 25 years old. I'm in my late twenties.

If you're only in your late 20s and really paid for sex that many times...then that's not ED.
That's early signs of some serious STD/STI.
Have you done all the standard sexual health checks recently ?

and....why on earth are you paying to bang ?

Post: #18

(11-13-2015 07:42 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  If you're in your late 20s and really paid for sex that many times...then that's not ED.
That's early signs of some serious STD/STI.
Have you done all the standard sexual health checks recently ?

Yes. I did an entire STD screen in in June and an HIV-only test (Latest generation test, 2-week window) in September. All clean.

I make sure I get a full STD screen done at least 3-4 times a year.

I have very small warts (4-5 of them) around the base of my cock probably papilloma (HPV). I often wrap it up (always with P4P) but that shit is transmitted by contact not blood, harmless in men (vaccines exist for women and here they usually get it done) and apparently half of sexually active adults have it.

The doctor said they could burn them off with a laser but they're really, really small, hard to see plus I'm not bothered so I didn't want to pay.

Funny part is, I couldn't possibly have gotten it from a hooker because I was on a dry spell at the time they appeared.

(11-13-2015 07:42 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  and....why on earth are you paying to bang ?

I was very horny. Now I rarely pay. I didn't fuck any hookers in the last 6 months.

My point is, sex was the objective, now it feels more like part of the process.

Post: #19

(11-13-2015 07:42 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  and....why on earth are you paying to bang ?

(11-13-2015 07:46 PM)the Thing Wrote:  I was very horny. Now I rarely pay.

You should have read this blog post by Roosh instead of paying for prostitutes.

(11-13-2015 07:46 PM)the Thing Wrote:  I didn't fuck any hookers in the last 6 months.

Post: #20

(11-13-2015 08:29 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  You should have read this blog post by Roosh instead of paying for prostitutes.

Just read it, it's a good article but not related to what I'm experiencing.

Once I was horny enough to want to fuck 5-6 different girls in one day, was my point.

[Late edit] Just read it again. "Not horny enough" symptoms are exactly what I'm experiencing.

(11-13-2015 08:29 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

Nah. 100% serious. I wanted pussy, p4p or not. Now I want neither. I mean I want pussy but it doesn't really satisfy me once I have it.

I'm more interested in working out at the gym, reading good blogs or working on a side project in the last months.

Except lately I can't focus very good at those either so I just end up fucking around.

Anyway, getting back to the point. Lack of focus, that's why I suspected low T.

Of course in this country I'm living in, there's free STD clinics for gay people but you can't get your T levels checked if you sucked off your doctor for it.

Late edit : I recently started a vit B+C+D+magnesium+zinc supplement regimen. B+C+D+magnesium+zinc = T. It seems it's helping but it's too early to say anything. Though I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have gotten the 3 new notches without it

Post: #21

(11-13-2015 08:38 PM)the Thing Wrote:  Nah. 100% serious. I wanted pussy, p4p or not. Now I want neither. I mean I want pussy but it doesn't really satisfy me once I have it.

That's not unusual.

WIA

Post: #22

Preferring the thrill of chase to joys of conquered land is more common than you'd think.

With regards to your fapping question:
fapping and porn consumption will create a "no woman's land" buffer zone just outside your orgasm HQ.

None shall achieve your hand's efficiency in pleasuring you. Easy to see why: it's connected to your biggest sexual organ and can consistently apply the right amount of pressure to your G-pole and stress balls. If you stop this perfect orgasm habit you will naturally find female body more attractive and appreciate its pleasures more.

It is up to you whether it's an issue and if so whether to change things. Should you chose to decide a change help is available.

Wish you best.