My reasoning that it doesn't really matter whether aliens exist is that, by the virtue of constraints that speed of light places upon traveling the enormous distances involved, any alien civilization with sufficient technology to reach us would be so infinitely more advanced than ours that any interaction would be pointless and entirely at their whim.
(06-19-2012 10:48 AM)soup Wrote: As much as I respect Stephen Hawking, he was once quoted as saying that women were the greatest mystery of the universe.
Automatically loses all credibly with me. If he can't figure out those vapid, temperamental bitches, how can he understand the abstract secrets of the universe?
Well, does deserve a little credit, considering that he's paralysed and uses a machine to talk and was still able to get some pussy at all.
That said, expertise in blackholes doesn't equal proficiency in poosyholes.
Stephen Hawking game trumps all.
Dude cannot move. Cannot speak. Looks like a science fair experiment. Still lands a pretty decent chick.
But there are guys who don't get laid and blame their height, looks, money, race, city. I want to see them try and complain to Steve and listen to his robot voice answer: Geeettt...the fuck... out of... heeerrrre... youuu... little nonce.
I think there's very likely other civilizations out there. But most likely they die out to catastrophic natural disasters before they ever figure out the enormous problem of how to travel millions of light years to find anyone else. If SETI ever did detect some kind of intelligent alien communication, odds are everyone in that civilization has been dead for a million years.
(06-19-2012 10:48 AM)soup Wrote: As much as I respect Stephen Hawking, he was once quoted as saying that women were the greatest mystery of the universe.
Automatically loses all credibly with me. If he can't figure out those vapid, temperamental bitches, how can he understand the abstract secrets of the universe?
Well, does deserve a little credit, considering that he's paralysed and uses a machine to talk and was still able to get some pussy at all.
That said, expertise in blackholes doesn't equal proficiency in poosyholes.
Stephen Hawking game trumps all.
Dude cannot move. Cannot speak. Looks like a science fair experiment. Still lands a pretty decent chick.
But there are guys who don't get laid and blame their height, looks, money, race, city. I want to see them try and complain to Steve and listen to his robot voice answer: Geeettt...the fuck... out of... heeerrrre... youuu... little nonce.
QFT. Also this guy, Nick Vujicic, must have mad game, dude has no arms or legs and lands a hottie:
Quote:A strange mathematical pattern spotted in blasts of radio waves coming from deep space could be evidence of alien civilizations...
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When Michael Hippke of Germany’s Institute for Data Analysis recently plotted the dispersion measures of the 11 known bursts, he and his colleagues found something surprising: All the dispersion measures are integer multiples of the same number, 187.5.
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When graphed, the data certainly look compelling (see Figure 1 on page 2). The team calculated a 5 in 10,000 chance of the pattern being pure coincidence. Furthermore, no astrophysical systems that we know of can produce such a stepwise distribution of dispersion measures, the team argued.
So what’s going on? If the pattern is real, it suggests fast radio bursts are not coming from all over the universe, says astronomer Scott Ransom of the U.S. National Radio Astronomy Observatory. “In that case, they should be smoothly distributed in dispersion measure,” he says. Alternatively, the signals could be coming from closer to Earth. “[The pattern] could point to a very strange kind of radio frequency interference, I suppose,” he says.
As a March 31 story in New Scientist notes, one possible explanation for the mysterious 187.5 is pulsars, perhaps behaving according to physical laws we’re not yet aware of. Another is an unmapped spy satellite, masquerading as a signal from the distant universe.
Or, just maybe, 187.5 is the arrow pointing to ET.
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And now for the boring part (math):
Quote:Instead of aliens, unexpected astrophysics, or even Earthly interference, the mysterious mathematical pattern is probably an artifact produced by a small sample size, Ransom says. When working with a limited amount of data – say, a population of 11 fast radio bursts – it’s easy to draw lines that connect the dots. Often, however, those lines disappear when more dots are added.
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usually I'm skeptic but I doubt that thing that crashed at Roswell was just a weather balloon, there's like more than 300 witnesses accounts being collected over the years claiming an alien involvement and the military raised a huge stink about the whole story.
also for some reason I find the accounts of Bob Lazar somehow believable for the simple reason that the guy sounds like he could be injected with half a gallon of truth serum and he would say the same things.
the Puma Punku site is also fascinating, it's hard to believe they moved those enormous stone blocks with just wood rolls and worked them so accurately with just copper tools.
Space is so stupendously big that even if the universe was teeming with intelligent life at similar or higher stages of technological development than ours, the distances are so vast that civilizations might live and die long before their communication signals reach their nearest neighbors at mere light speed.
Around 100,000 years for light just to cross the Milky Way, which is a relatively small galaxy. 200,000 years to the nearest galaxy to the Milky Way. 2.9 million years to the Andromeda galaxy.
And at least an estimated 100 million galaxies in the observable universe - 13.8 billion light years to the edge from our tiny rock.
Even if FTL travel is possible, the odds of actually encountering another species seem minuscule, even if they should happen to exist by the hundreds or thousands in every galaxy.
Good ol' Screwston... I can picture him smoking a blunt ad watching this series and rethinking everything he thought he ever knew about life and aliens.
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(06-20-2012 04:26 PM)SVK Wrote: QFT. Also this guy, Nick Vujicic, must have mad game, dude has no arms or legs and lands a hottie:
Give that dude a hand......or two
He's probably pretty short with no legs. He needs to grow a foot or two.
A pic of this guy should get posted in those height threads..I mean guys who are 5'0+ complain of having it hard in dating...how
hard did Nick have it in dating...IN AUSTRALIA..a place that is way worst for getting laid for men than even America.
Still lands a hottie...meanwhile we see average to tall guys in Australia banging/marrying beachballs
(04-06-2015 06:05 AM)Lucario Wrote: A pic of this guy should get posted in those height threads..I mean guys who are 5'0+ complain of having it hard in dating...how
hard did Nick have it in dating...IN AUSTRALIA..a place that is way worst for getting laid for men than even America.
Still lands a hottie...meanwhile we see average to tall guys in Australia banging/marrying beachballs
I've encountered this a bit actually, seeing hot chicks with disabled dudes.
No disrespect intended to those suffering from a disability/disease, but for women, it must appeal to their nurturing side as equally as it does to their attention whoring ways when they shack up with these men.
It’s instinctual to look in the direction of someone with a disability, as much as it is to feel sympathy, so when they’re acknowledged as the wife/caregiver, it’s as if they’re basking in a type of martyrdom - a walking Facebook post if you will, collecting their inevitable “likes” along the way, day-in, day-out.
When WE came to Twin Peaks for Project Bluebook, the White Lodge spirits recognised his heart was pure and tried to possess WE to find out about the Black Lodge. To stop WL spirits from entering his body he used Haliperidol. It appeared the Haliperidol was causing insanity, but the Haliperidol was allowing his natural evil and insanity to express itself.
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My favorite hypothesis concerning all this derives from Jacques Vallée and John Keel's books; essentially, the "hyperdimensional/ultraterrestrial" version-of-things.
In this model, those phenomena which have been classed as "alien" in the modern era and more generally "otherworldly" in previous ones are some sort of aspect of reality that is linked in a profound way, or is even indigenous, to life on earth, to our consciousness.
It has been classed as divine in some ages and demonic in others. In our mechanistic, metaphysically disinclined era we imagine it as some sort of analog to our own efforts at physical flight and space travel. But the phenomenon's complexity outpaces our models. It is absurd, intangible, deceptive, maddening, and vague. It is oddly tied to names, places, and bloodlines. If you delve into some of the higher-level contactee stuff or into some of the mass-witness stuff (like the event at the Ariel School in Zimbabwe) it begins looking drastically less... scientific in nature. It knows us and we have interacted with it before. These events have had strange echoes and the religions contain aspects of such.
Just because we are at a time and place in our own development where we are most comfortable calling it "aliens" doesn't mean it's aliens. Not in the conventional sense, at least.
If anyone is curious about this sort of take on these things, Jacques Vallée's wonderful "Passport to Magonia" has just been reprinted.
I recently came across this video by Alex Jones. He uses the movie Prometheus (and the upcoming sequel) as a jumping off point for some conspiracy talk:
He claims that the belief in ancient aliens (directed panspermia) is part of the occult beliefs of the "Illuminati" (global elite) and ties it together with their agenda for population control, genetic engineering of humans, the human/machine "singularity", etc. Conspiracy level 1000, basically. Do you find that his ideas have any merit? (Calling Zelcorpion...)
I love the Ancient Aliens TV series, along with the other programmes looking into the Ancient Astronaut theories by Georgio Tsoukalos (the "Aliens" meme guy with the funky hair). I think there is the possibility of life on other planets, and that Earth has been visited by extra-terrestrial life.
There are just too many similarities between different cultures (that are on different continents) that cannot make it a coincidence. Consider the many different Pyramidal structures across Latin America (step pyramids) and ancient Mesopotamian Ziggurats. Or that the Ancient Egyptians built the Great pyramids (designed to be massive tombs for the Pharaohs) for only a short time. Surely they were built for a bigger purpose?
One of the more interesting ones was the Tsoukalos programme "In Search of Aliens" S1 E2 which looked at the hunt for the lost city of Atlantis. It looks at the usual suspect of Santorini, as well as Silves in Portugal. What I find funny is that there was an online article on my Facebook feed that claims to have found Atlantis...in the Bermuda Triangle. Apparently the US Gov't have long-known this location since the 60's and there's ancient pyramids and Sphinx's down there - I take issue, as the only place these pyramids and Sphinx's are found is of course Ancient Egypt, so the article is all wrong.
Reminds me of the time I did a talk in my Catholic School about the Dead Sea Scrolls, and ended up basically re-writing the Exodus described in the Old Testament. Didn't get screwed over for it and got top marks
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Only reason why any race would visit us is to fuck us up. I'm sure our own expeditions to lands unknown were filled with messages such as "we come in peace". Where are those people now?
(04-03-2015 08:28 AM)MikeS Wrote: Space is so stupendously big that even if the universe was teeming with intelligent life at similar or higher stages of technological development than ours, the distances are so vast that civilizations might live and die long before their communication signals reach their nearest neighbors at mere light speed.
Around 100,000 years for light just to cross the Milky Way, which is a relatively small galaxy. 200,000 years to the nearest galaxy to the Milky Way. 2.9 million years to the Andromeda galaxy.
And at least an estimated 100 million galaxies in the observable universe - 13.8 billion light years to the edge from our tiny rock.
Even if FTL travel is possible, the odds of actually encountering another species seem minuscule, even if they should happen to exist by the hundreds or thousands in every galaxy.
We will colonize the milky way in a few million years, which is nothing in the grand scheme of the universe. Its not a matter of if but when this will happen. My guess in the next couple of hundred years. Both Super AI and Fusion are probably less than 100 years away.
We dont need to beat light speed or even get close to it. Once AI and Fusion are in full force, we will most likely send out ships to outer space and colonize the galaxy. Ships would carry various samples of plant, animal and human life. AI could also alter DNA to make it/us suitable for any specific planet, even if conditions are not similar to Earth. Ships could also further replicate themselves along the way (machine develops machine)
AI + Fusion would be like a virus spreading life across the galaxy.
In a nutshell, AI + Unlimited energy like Fusion = Sky is the limit.
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(04-03-2015 08:28 AM)MikeS Wrote: Space is so stupendously big that even if the universe was teeming with intelligent life at similar or higher stages of technological development than ours, the distances are so vast that civilizations might live and die long before their communication signals reach their nearest neighbors at mere light speed.
Around 100,000 years for light just to cross the Milky Way, which is a relatively small galaxy. 200,000 years to the nearest galaxy to the Milky Way. 2.9 million years to the Andromeda galaxy.
And at least an estimated 100 million galaxies in the observable universe - 13.8 billion light years to the edge from our tiny rock.
Even if FTL travel is possible, the odds of actually encountering another species seem minuscule, even if they should happen to exist by the hundreds or thousands in every galaxy.
We will colonize the milky way in a few million years, which is nothing in the grand scheme of the universe. Its not a matter of if but when this will happen. My guess in the next couple of hundred years. Both Super AI and Fusion are probably less than 100 years away.
We dont need to beat light speed or even get close to it. Once AI and Fusion are in full force, we will most likely send out ships to outer space and colonize the galaxy. Ships would carry various samples of plant, animal and human life. AI could also alter DNA to make it/us suitable for any specific planet, even if conditions are not similar to Earth. Ships could also further replicate themselves along the way (machine develops machine)
AI + Fusion would be like a virus spreading life across the galaxy.
In a nutshell, AI + Unlimited energy like Fusion = Sky is the limit.
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(12-19-2015 10:01 AM)dodecahedron Wrote: We will colonize the milky way in a few million years, which is nothing in the grand scheme of the universe. Its not a matter of if but when this will happen. My guess in the next couple of hundred years. Both Super AI and Fusion are probably less than 100 years away.
Theres also the Fermi Paradox, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox The Fermi paradox — or Fermi's paradox — is the apparent contradiction between high estimates of the probability of the existence of extraterrestrial civilizations, such as in the Drake equation, and the lack of evidence for such civilizations.[1] The basic points of the argument, made by physicists Enrico Fermi (1901–1954) and Michael H. Hart (born 1932), are:
The Sun is a typical star, and there are billions of stars in the galaxy that are billions of years older.[2][3]
With high probability, some of these stars will have Earth-like planets,[4][5] and if the earth is typical, some might develop intelligent life.
Some of these civilizations might develop interstellar travel, a step the Earth is investigating now.
Even at the slow pace of currently envisioned interstellar travel, the Milky Way galaxy could be completely traversed in about a million years.[6]
In regular speak "Where the fuck are the aliens? They should have been here by now".
Quote:We dont need to beat light speed or even get close to it. Once AI and Fusion are in full force, we will most likely send out ships to outer space and colonize the galaxy. Ships would carry various samples of plant, animal and human life. AI could also alter DNA to make it/us suitable for any specific planet, even if conditions are not similar to Earth. Ships could also further replicate themselves along the way (machine develops machine)
Fun Facts. The Helios 2 is the fastest space craft man has created, it traveled at 157,000mph! The closet star to Earth is Alpha Centauri A,B and Proxima Centauri, a triple star system which is about 4 Light years away from the sun. At 157,000mph it would take Helios 2 19,000 years to reach them.
Here's an interesting video explaining all of it.
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(12-19-2015 07:02 AM)Pareto Wrote: I love the Ancient Aliens TV series, along with the other programmes looking into the Ancient Astronaut theories by Georgio Tsoukalos (the "Aliens" meme guy with the funky hair). I think there is the possibility of life on other planets, and that Earth has been visited by extra-terrestrial life.
There are just too many similarities between different cultures (that are on different continents) that cannot make it a coincidence. Consider the many different Pyramidal structures across Latin America (step pyramids) and ancient Mesopotamian Ziggurats. Or that the Ancient Egyptians built the Great pyramids (designed to be massive tombs for the Pharaohs) for only a short time. Surely they were built for a bigger purpose?
It certainly isn't a coincidence. The pyramid is the default shape when you want to build a tall structure but are limited in your engineering know-how and materials. If you were to build a house of cards you'd also instinctively build a pyramid, no extraterrestrial inspiration required.
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