Post: #1

Just before I dive in to the case
The case involves criminal behavior, which includes Incest. I do not approve of such behavior.

The Story of Goel Ratzon (in free translation "The one who saves you by your own will")

Goel Ratzon was born in 1950 in Tel Aviv. According to the verdict (In Hebrew), he married in 1972 his "first official" wife. In 1980 he started his harem with an additional women, which gave birth to 5 children.
Since 1991 till 2010 Goel would actively increase his harem. Number of women involved ranges from 21 (verdict) to 32 (claims of the women involved). He had 49 children (according to the verdict) and the number maybe as high as 89 (claims of the women involved).

This is Goel:


Here is what Goel did, and the game principles involved.
Principles are taken from the 16 commandments of poon, Iron laws of Tomassi and RooshV/ROK website:
1. He would dictate his perception of life in ways that benefited him
Game principle - Frame
2. He made positioned himself among his harem as equal to god
Game principal - Be irrationally self-confident
3. He made the wifes feel that having his children is the goal to aspire.
Game principal - Iron Rule of Tomassi #5 NEVER allow a woman to be in control of the birth. (Even if it is reversed)
4. He chose which one would give birth, and which would not.
Game principle - Always keep two in the kitty, Make her jealous, Keep her guessing
5. He treated them as property, made them serve his sexual and financial needs
Game principal - Frame
6. He made a code of conduct, including financial penalties
Game principal - Don’t play by her rules
7. He made them tattoo his image or name on their body
Game principle - Pimping
8. Requiring them to cut off from their families and social circle.
Game principle - Isolation (extreme)
9. He madated that they will not interact with the outside world, apart from working, no TV, constant reports of whereabouts, limited physical contact between wifes and other restraints.
Game principal - Keeping Hypergamy checked
10. He constantly told the wifes that they are free to go
Game principal - Never be afraid to lose her
11. The wifes would compete for his affection and time
Game principal - Make her jealous
12. He would "hunt" for wifes with some of his harem. They would engage the target first.
Game principal - Preselection
13/ Some of his wifes testified that "He would always pull my hair in bed"
Game principal - Fuck her good

Goel Ratzon was convicted last year on the charges of rape, statutory rape (slept with less than 16 year old "wifes"), Incest, Fraud (it was proven that he was able to convince one of his wifes to gove him 45K$ for an "imaginary" purchase of apartment). He was sentenced to 30 years.

Check out one of the girls monologue:




And his code of conduct:




I once again want to emphasize - I do not approve of rape, incest or his behavior.
David Del Jefe wrote 1.5 years ago about such a phenomenon.

After watching the documentary, you can notice that those women may not be beautiful, but all had good figure. Female competition makes that happen.
Here is the trailer, with English subtitles:

Post: #2

Most of those sex sect leaders use various Game principles and go beyond to Pimp rules.

But there is usually a "spiritual" and religious element involved which makes the stuff more potent. Whenever you look at guys like that then you just see many Game principles replicated and it is clear why 5'1 men like him or Charles Manson can pull it off.

Actually I was considering one of his principles of having children with more women. I do have a girlfriend, but may decide to get a younger one in the future. Having sex with other women is not a problem because she is into threesomes, but having another girl who has also children with me while happy - that is another thing altogether.

Post: #3

My opinion about this guy:

Post: #4

(10-14-2015 10:01 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Most of those sex sect leaders use various Game principles and go beyond to Pimp rules.

But there is usually a "spiritual" and religious element involved which makes the stuff more potent. Whenever you look at guys like that then you just see many Game principles replicated and it is clear why 5'1 men like him or Charles Manson can pull it off.

Actually I was considering one of his principles of having children with more women. I do have a girlfriend, but may decide to get a younger one in the future. Having sex with other women is not a problem because she is into threesomes, but having another girl who has also children with me while happy - that is another thing altogether.

This is the future of game. As women get ever more spoiled, eventually they will only be able to tolerate a man who they worship as an actual god.

Post: #5

Here's an Indian guy using sect game:

The world's biggest family: The man with 39 wives, 94 children and 33 grandchildren

Quote:He is head of the world's biggest family - and says he is 'blessed' to have his 39 wives.

Ziona Chana also has 94 children, 14-daughters-in-law and 33 grandchildren.

They live in a 100-room, four storey house set amidst the hills of Baktwang village in the Indian state of Mizoram, where the wives sleep in giant communal dormitories.

Mr Chana told the Sun: 'Today I feel like God's special child. He's given me so many people to look after.

'I consider myself a lucky man to be the husband of 39 women and head of the world's largest family.'

The family is organised with almost military discipline, with the oldest wife Zathiangi organising her fellow partners to perform household chores such as cleaning, washing and preparing meals.

One evening meal can see them pluck 30 chickens, peel 132lb of potatoes and boil up to 220lb of rice.

Coincidentally, Mr Chana is also head of a sect that allows members to take as many wives as he wants.

He even married ten women in one year, when he was at his most prolific, and enjoys his own double bed while his wives have to make do with communal dormitories.

He keeps the youngest women near to his bedroom with the older members of the family sleeping further away - and there is a rotation system for who visits Mr Chana's bedroom.

Rinkmini, one of Mr Chana's wives who is 35 years old, said: 'We stay around him as he is the most important person in the house. He is the most handsome person in the village.

Another of his wives, Huntharnghanki, said the entire family gets along well. The family system is reportedly based on 'mutual love and respect'

And Mr Chana, whose religious sect has 4,00 members, says he has not stopped looking for new wives.

'To expand my sect, I am willing to go even to the U.S. to marry,' he said.

One of his sons insisted that Mr Chana, whose grandfather also had many wives, marries the poor women from the village so he can look after them.

Post: #6

(10-14-2015 12:47 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  Here's an Indian guy using sect game:

The world's biggest family: The man with 39 wives, 94 children and 33 grandchildren

That's some serious Alpha stance there.

Still - I would ban polygamy due to a simple reason:

Any wealthy man could have hundreds of wives and this would create a serious imbalance as seen among the Aztecs where more than 50% of men had no women at all (and probably no sex either).

It's not that women wouldn't go for it willingly, it's that for the sake of civilization we have to stop this. Women would prefer to be the wife Nr. 4789 of Leo DiCaprio and see him once a year with some sex in the beginning, than to be married to Mr. Boring but intelligent CFO of a Tech company. We know that women have firmware that is absolutely nuts and would bring us back to the stone age.

We as men have the responsibility to stop most destructive instincts and create a worthwhile civilization. And by stopping it also means to stop guys like that above. Only in extreme male shortages is such a behavior wise.

Post: #7

(10-14-2015 01:43 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Still - I would ban polygamy due to a simple reason:

Any wealthy man could have hundreds of wives and this would create a serious imbalance as seen among the Aztecs where more than 50% of men had no women at all (and probably no sex either).

It's not that women wouldn't go for it willingly, it's that for the sake of civilization we have to stop this. Women would prefer to be the wife Nr. 4789 of Leo DiCaprio and see him once a year with some sex in the beginning, than to be married to Mr. Boring but intelligent CFO of a Tech company. We know that women have firmware that is absolutely nuts and would bring us back to the stone age.

We as men have the responsibility to stop most destructive instincts and create a worthwhile civilization. And by stopping it also means to stop guys like that above. Only in extreme male shortages is such a behavior wise.

I agree with you, and I believe this is exactly why marriage and monogamy were invented, to prevent a handful of men to take all the women while the rest of the masses had none, and so avoid constant social unrest, war and chaos.