Post: #26

(10-09-2015 10:31 AM)Player_1337 Wrote:  -



Screening the girl over Skype/Facetime is an efficiency mechanism I may start consistently using. For any girl with an iPhone, there's no reason why they can't engage in a Facetime session- as it's bundled into iOS. If she balks or acts bitchy- next her. Using this technique sporadically has led to great results in the past:
- I tend to engage the session at night and keep the conversation to ~15 minutes (30 max if it goes well). Tell her you have to get going and maintain frame (plans that night/big day tomorrow). Use this as an opportunity for bait/DHV.
- See if there's even an ounce of chemistry/if she'd bang. I can pick up on this better when talking with the girl face to face.
- See if she's as attractive as she has portrayed in her pics. Need to screen out the SIFs/outdated pic girls.
- Build comfort and rapport. She'll feel more comfortable getting together in person It's like a cheat code for skipping the first meet.

Ultimately, I'd much rather screen out a girl or have her reject me, conveniently in the comfort of my own home- rather than waste time, effort and resources meeting at some bar for the hundredth time.

I've recently started doing this too and have found it works really well for exactly the reasons you listed.For example, I have two girls I met on Tinder who both live 5-6 hours away from me talking about flying in to spend the weekend with me. I'm sure they wouldn't be willing to do that if we hadn't Skyped. I should have started Skyping years ago, it would have saved me a lot of SIFs and no chemistry/sexuality meetings.

Post: #27

Do you understand it's Buyer's market?

Let me elaborate. you listed something on craigslist. this person contacted you and asked you multiple questions. he ended up telling you 'let me think about it' and wasting good amount of your time.
Now, do you txt him and talk shit to him? You can but will you look like an idiot? Yes.

Do you get it now?
If not, have you had a guy who wants to be your friend but you didn't want to so you ended up making excuses till he disappears? (sorry bro I am sick. sorry I gotta do this) What would you think if this dorky guy talks shits to you?
(In general, nobody tells someone 'sorry you are bit weird, I don't want to hangout with you' even though the person is fucking weird. people just make excuses till they get the idea. If you don't Get it, it's your Problem)


Who initiated first? Did she cold approach you, get your number, beg you to hang out with her and end up flaking out at the end? then you may talk shit to her.

But I know it was YOU who initiated.
Accept your results and Don't blame others for your own problem.

(10-06-2015 10:03 PM)Stack Thornehawk Wrote:  Do we call them out on flaking, call out and insult, or just go about our business and next them?

Post: #28

Harsh but true.

Post: #29

My observations on women (US women) and flaking:

* If you get their number, they're probably not going to respond to your first text or will respond to only your first text. Thereafter, they're probably not going to respond.

* If you successfully set the date, there's a better than 50% chance they will flake.

* If they flake, even if they suggest an alternate time and you set, they will probably flake on that second date.

* If you don't get the first date bang, you're probably not going to see them again.

* If you do get the first date bang, the chances are about 50% or maybe a bit higher that you're not going to see them again, though better than not getting the first date bang.

Bottom line - get the first date bang if possible. That way, at least you're getting a bang and upping your chances of probably never seeing them again to possibly seeing them again.

The above applies to online game and day game with women in the 19 to 30 year age range in a relatively big US city.

I will also say, some of the girls I got a first date bang with, I did not attempt to contact them again myself. So, that's playing into my 50% figure.

Knowing the reality of dating in the western world allows the player to go into the game with the most realistic expectations, thus reducing frustration and helping one to stay focused on the long term.