It's at #8 across all books on Amazon already. https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-book...ts_books_1

(06-05-2017 04:17 AM)rotekz Wrote:  It's at #8 across all books on Amazon already. https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-book...ts_books_1

#5 now. Pretty impressive.

Quote:MILO YIANNOPOULOS IS NOW #1 on Amazon. Dropping him is going to cost his old publisher a lot of money, and self-publishing will put a lot more money in Yiannopoulos’ pocket anyway. “If you strike me down. . . .”

And frankly, if you know your book is going to be a big seller, why use a publisher at all? And where are publishers once people figure that out?

113 Posted at 8:08 pm by Glenn Reynolds

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/266751/

He hit No. 1 spot!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...uster.html

So I guess it's worth a purchase?

I'm giving it a read, I'm 2 chapters in so far.

He is really into himself, spends a lot of time talking about how hot and popular and famous he is. Each chapter is "Why the X group hates me," much like his college lectures.

He makes good arguments in his typical humorous style, it is low level reading so it should be easy to blow through during a week or two of shitting sessions.

Someone needs to work the "drinking soy and swooping dudes" meme into this thread.

This statement is a little concerning considering the Blatant sexuality of the author;

Silver something wrote; "it is low level reading so it should be easy to blow through during a week or two of shitting sessions."

I saw the table of contents on his Instagram and it pretty much just seemed like it is regurgitating the stuff he talks about in his college lectures and other interviews. I assume that there is not going to be anything particularly interesting otherwise?

I found this excerpt about a third way in:

Quote:Like the men’s health gap, the black murder gap is very real, and simply isn’t discussed by black activists. I suspect it’s a matter of tribalism, or ingroup/outgroup psychology, a common occurrence in politics. Like feminists who blame their everyday grievances on an invisible “patriarchy,” or Wi-Fi-enabled Waffen-SS wannabes who think Jews are responsible for everything bad, or Democrats who blame the Russians for Hillary losing the election to Daddy. It’s very easy to dodge responsibility if you have a boogeyman to lump the blame on.
Leftism, which combines tribal identity politics with a disdain for personal responsibility, is the ultimate political expression of this destructive instinct to blame other people for your problems, instead of undergoing the difficult process of self-reflection.

This "difficult process of self reflection" was the appeal of the red pill for me at the start. The pill gave me hope that I could adapt and improve my station in life and it ultimately brought me and many others into this forum. I like the way he words that message. I feel we've been doing a lot of boogeyman-blaming lately and its important that we not forget the self-reflection that brought us here.

There are little nuggets of familiar rants like that quote in the book, mixed in with summaries of internet drama events like trigglypuff and talcum x that are familiar to us in the forum. I haven't really found any new bits of wisdom so far but he packages the political side of redpill thought in a way that the uninitiated might enjoy. The sexual marketplace topic is notably missing which is not surprising because he's gay.

(07-06-2017 09:21 AM)Guitarman Wrote:  This statement is a little concerning considering the Blatant sexuality of the author;

Nah.

1) Silver_Tube is speaking-plainly, which reads as vulgar to some.
2) His main negative factor with the book is how strongly Milo signals for higher social status but he can't deny the strength of his arguments.
3) Why bother putting on airs by pretending that he doesn't read on the toilet?

Obviously, whilst I can't type someone as Sigma from one post, it does raise an intrigued eyebrow.

(07-05-2017 03:57 PM)Mr. D Wrote:  So I guess it's worth a purchase?

Hope you've got a Kindle. Amazon has been out of physical copies for two days now.

(07-06-2017 08:14 AM)Silver_Tube Wrote:  I'm giving it a read, I'm 2 chapters in so far.

He is really into himself, spends a lot of time talking about how hot and popular and famous he is. Each chapter is "Why the X group hates me," much like his college lectures.

He makes good arguments in his typical humorous style, it is low level reading so it should be easy to blow through during a week or two of shitting sessions.

For whatever reason, Milo's frequent and conspicuous displays of narcissism seem to be part of his appeal for many of his fans. It's been noted that he's not a true narcissist because he demonstrates self-awareness and also engages in self-deprecating humor.

Milo used to be everywhere. Just going to the sites I like, it seemed there was always a link to him doing something interesting.

Now, he is barely on my radar since he ran and hid after the media went after him.

Anyone else notice the same?

Like yeah, his book is coming out, but his brand is stale?

Looks like he is also following through with his lawsuit for $10 million against Simon & Schuster.

Edit: Article

Quote:USA Today - Right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos has sued major publishing house Simon & Schuster for $10 million for canceling his book, Dangerous.

His publicist, Matthew Sheldon, confirmed to USA TODAY that the lawsuit was filed in New York Supreme Court Friday morning. "The complaint is public record now," he added.

Yiannopoulos published the book himself on July 4. On Friday afternoon, it was the No. 3 top seller on Amazon.com. (You can read our review here.)

Simon & Schuster issued a statement in response: "Although we have not been officially served, we believe that Yiannopoulos's lawsuit is publicity-driven and entirely without merit. Simon & Schuster will vigorously defend itself against any such action, and fully expects to prevail in court."

The publisher canceled the Dangerous deal in February after podcasts surfaced in which Yiannopoulos seemed to condone sex between men and boys. He then resigned from Breitbart News. He said he does not condone pedophilia, a stance he repeats in his new book.

Yiannopoulous held a rally in front of Simon & Schuster's offices in New York Friday and announced he had filed the lawsuit in the Supreme Court of the State of New York for damages of "at least $10 million."

"They have to pay for silencing conservatives," he said at the rally, according to trade publication Publishers Weekly. "How many books could I have sold with their marketing muscle?"

I finished the book and I'm pretty pleased with it. Milo is an entertaining faggot.

He summarizes the pas couple years of happenings around our sphere really well, with many many citations at the end of the book. The ending chapters "Why gamers don't hate me" is an excellent recap of how first blood was drawn against the fourth wave feminists during the gamergate drama, he argues that the gamergate victory is what eventually led to Trump becoming president. "How to be a dangerous faggot even if you aren't gay" is the final chapter and it is pretty much a playbook for how the right can win the culture war in his opinion. He makes some good points. He makes a good argument for why the right needs to be funnier and more attention grabbing.

I'm left wondering if I'm doing my part. I try to be a redpill influence to the people around me but I've always been a coward about broadcasting my views on social media.

Not a single one of the one-star reviews for his book on Amazon are "verified purchase". Snowflakes are getting triggered hard!

(07-07-2017 01:56 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  Like yeah, his book is coming out, but his brand is stale?

I think it's impossible to have a stale brand but a number one book on Amazon. He's just not in the news cycle anymore, so he doesn't drive conversations. But if you look on his Instagram and Youtube, he has massive engagement. He transitioned from culture warrior to celebrity.

(07-06-2017 02:24 PM)Silver_Tube Wrote:  The sexual marketplace topic is notably missing which is not surprising because he's gay.

Milo's piece The Sexodus was an early look at the topic in a mainstream publication.

I am glad to see Milo is doing well. Since he's publishing it himself, he gets a 70% royalty on all Kindle sales. I am sure his publisher was going to give him a lot less. Milo will realize that getting dumped by his publisher was the best thing that could have happened to him. He will do all his books himself, and others will follow suit.

(07-07-2017 03:22 PM)Remington Wrote:  Looks like he is also following through with his lawsuit for $10 million against Simon & Schuster.

Edit: Article

Quote:USA Today - Right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos has sued major publishing house Simon & Schuster for $10 million for canceling his book, Dangerous.

His publicist, Matthew Sheldon, confirmed to USA TODAY that the lawsuit was filed in New York Supreme Court Friday morning. "The complaint is public record now," he added.

Yiannopoulos published the book himself on July 4. On Friday afternoon, it was the No. 3 top seller on Amazon.com. (You can read our review here.)

Simon & Schuster issued a statement in response: "Although we have not been officially served, we believe that Yiannopoulos's lawsuit is publicity-driven and entirely without merit. Simon & Schuster will vigorously defend itself against any such action, and fully expects to prevail in court."

The publisher canceled the Dangerous deal in February after podcasts surfaced in which Yiannopoulos seemed to condone sex between men and boys. He then resigned from Breitbart News. He said he does not condone pedophilia, a stance he repeats in his new book.

Yiannopoulous held a rally in front of Simon & Schuster's offices in New York Friday and announced he had filed the lawsuit in the Supreme Court of the State of New York for damages of "at least $10 million."

"They have to pay for silencing conservatives," he said at the rally, according to trade publication Publishers Weekly. "How many books could I have sold with their marketing muscle?"

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/07/milo-...uster.html

Vox Day Wrote:My expectation is that despite its posturing about prevailing "in court" - they are sending a message that they will not settle - S&S will settle for paying off Milo. Why? Because they absolutely do NOT want this to go to discovery. Remember, I am a former Pocket Books author with connections inside S&S, and I have heard that there were conversations between S&S and Amazon concerning Milo and his book that neither company will want to be made public via discovery.

This should be interesting.

I should have done it earlier but I just finished reading "Free Speech Isn't Free."

It was an interesting contrast to Milo's book, both largely on the same topic of war with the rabid social justice mob. There is a lot of overlap in recommended strategies from each author. They both center around the same 2015-2016 time period where both figures clashed against protesters and won. Obviously Roosh's book is more serious in tone. This culture war topic is quickly becoming its own genre. I felt like Roosh's advice was more on the individual level and Milo's was more public figure focused. I recommend both books.

It has apparently flopped. I don't understand. I though it was #1 on Amazon?

Milo Yiannopoulos is throwing a tantrum because his book has flopped

Quote:according to The Guardian, figures from Nielsen Bookscan, which monitors book sales through almost all outlets, show the controversialist has only sold 18,268 copies in the US and 152 in the UK.

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/14/milo-yiann...z4mt8ukHfV

(07-15-2017 03:47 AM)Thrill Jackson Wrote:  It has apparently flopped. I don't understand. I though it was #1 on Amazon?

Milo Yiannopoulos is throwing a tantrum because his book has flopped

Quote:according to The Guardian, figures from Nielsen Bookscan, which monitors book sales through almost all outlets, show the controversialist has only sold 18,268 copies in the US and 152 in the UK.

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/14/milo-yiann...z4mt8ukHfV

First, the allegation of shit sales is coming from the Guardian and other leftie sources.

What's the source of their information? "Nielsen" -- that is, Nielsen Bookscan, which purports to "monitor" book sales through "almost all outlets" and reckon that "because we count what Amazon counts, we think the numbers are at 18,000."

Two problems:

(1) Nielsen Bookscan is shit at counting. This is well-understood in the publishing industry:

https://the-digital-reader.com/2015/07/0...r-numbers/

Quote:Nielsen Bookscan released its estimates of the US print book market last week, which they describe as flat. I on the other hand, am not so sure we can trust their numbers.

From PW:

Sales of print books for the first six months of 2015 were running just about even with the same period in 2014 at outlets that report to Nielsen BookScan. Units inched up 0.3% in the period, to more than 286 million. While the overall sales trend in the first half of 2015 was similar to the first half of 2014 (when sales were up 0.6% over the first six months of 2013), there were some notable differences, including two major shifts in sales by category.

So Nielsen says that the book market was flat for the first 6 months of the year, but can we really trust those numbers?

If you've been following digital publishing news for any length of time then you know that Nielsen says that Bookscan covers 80% of the market, and you also know that there are any number of authors and agents who would tell you that the Bookscan is about as accurate as Nielsen Pubtrack - in other words, not at all.

Any number of authors and publishers have expressed doubt with the accuracy or completeness of Bookscan (see the comment sections).

In fact, in 2010 agent Kristin Nelson even went so far as to reveal that she had her own system for correcting for Bookscan's deficiencies:

Bookscan is not a whole picture of how a title is doing.

...

For some genres, it can be off by 50 or 60%. That’s a lot. The numbers for literary fiction tend to be a bit more on target as Bookscan seems to capture about 70% of sales for this segment.

Her system was based on comparing Bookscan's data with the actual sales figures from royalty statements passing through her office. The royalty statements don't arrive nearly as fast as Bookscan's data but they they do have the added benefit of being backed up by someone's pocketbook.

Of course, Nelson's post is 5 years old, so it may not be accurate. But I do have a more recent report. The Pseudonymous Data Guy told me last month that the data he saw wasn't even close to being right:

In my own case, I have Ingram-distributed print editions selling on the shelves of Barnes & Noble bookstores as well as indy bookstores, in addition to my Amazon/Createspace online print sales, and I can say for sure that my official Bookscan numbers add up to less than half of the print sales I've already been paid for from either channel alone, let alone both combined, which is what Bookscan claims to be counting.

Or this:

http://readindies.blogspot.com.au/2013/1...an-be.html

Quote:Much like bestseller lists, which I’ve written about in Bestseller Lists Can Lie, Nielsen BookScan sales data doesn’t actually show the total sales of any book in any particular category or at any particular time. More accurately, Nielsen BookScan sales data is reflective of a statistical sample of sales of particular books in particular categories or genres at a particular time. More plainly, Nielsen BookScan sales data captures a relatively small portion of book sales in particular markets and locations.

However, Nielsen BookScan sales data is often presented as if it shows a book’s total actual sales or equally as bad some imagined percentage of actual sales. Even Amazon.com which should absolutely know better as a digital online leader misrepresents to authors what Nielsen BookScan sales data actually is. BTW, your Author Central account on Amazon.com shows sales data for Nielsen BookScan US (which is itself one segment of the ten currently tracked markets).

(b) Amazon itself is pretty shit at counting.

https://jeanettevaughan.wordpress.com/20...ort-sales/

https://kdp.amazon.com/community/thread....eID=440554

18,000 copies sold less than two weeks after publication isn't a flop by any normal metric, anyway. They're just being catty.

99% of authors in all genres, fiction and nonfiction both, would love to hit 18k sales a year across their whole list, let alone on a single title in ~10 days.

Is it selling as well as it would've if he'd published it before his fall from grace? Probably not. But I doubt he's crying about making a mere $125,000 in 10 days, even if their numbers are perfectly accurate.

Raging SJW (and Milo hater) John Scalzi knows the book publishing industry well. He explains why Milo's book sales claims are reasonable.

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2017/07/14/ho...ling-debut