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Is the Brazilian real collapsing?
Things seem to be getting very ugly in Brazil lately. The exchange rate yesterday was 3.99 real to the dollar.

Today it is 4.05 to the dollar.

I'd like to hear from our Brazilian members. What's the word on the street?

Impeachment for Dilma?

Removal from office?

Or the advent of a new regime by other means?

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(09-22-2015 04:13 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  Things seem to be getting very ugly in Brazil lately. The exchange rate yesterday was 3.99 real to the dollar.

Today it is 4.05 to the dollar.

I'd like to hear from our Brazilian members. What's the word on the street?

Impeachment for Dilma?

Removal from office?

Or the advent of a new regime by other means?
Yes Quintus there was something not quite right and artificial, about the prosperity Brazil was enjoying, the years before the World Cup.
I saw all of that economic success, as part of the reason Brazil was going down hill, in terms of the women.
I am curious to see how all these new conditions in Brazil, haved change the game on the ground. Heading to Fortaleza in 3 weeks.
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(09-22-2015 04:30 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  Yes Quintus there was something not quite right and artificial, about the prosperity Brazil was enjoying, the years before the World Cup.
I saw all of that economic success, as part of the reason Brazil was going down hill, in terms of the women.
I am curious to see how all these new conditions in Brazil, haved change the game on the ground. Heading to Fortaleza in 3 weeks.

The economic downturn in a sense is making some local women resentful towards foreigners right now as well.....

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(09-22-2015 04:35 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  
(09-22-2015 04:30 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  Yes Quintus there was something not quite right and artificial, about the prosperity Brazil was enjoying, the years before the World Cup.
I saw all of that economic success, as part of the reason Brazil was going down hill, in terms of the women.
I am curious to see how all these new conditions in Brazil, haved change the game on the ground. Heading to Fortaleza in 3 weeks.

The economic downturn in a sense is making some local women resentful towards foreigners right now as well.....

How so? Please elaborate. That's not my experience at all. I'm getting just the opposite. Girls keep asking me (futilely) to buy shit for them and bring it down when I travel. They always did that, but it's more so now.

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^^^ I think it's more so the ones with a ton of pride & just having their egos shattered with what is going on in their economy. They ask me questions like "what are you doing here" and "why did you even bother learning Portuguese" but of course in Portuguese.

Tough times can result in two types of scenarios:
1) Girls wanting to get out while looking for that meal ticket
2) Girls gravitating even more towards local guys (higher value a local guy is..the better obviously) whom they can vent with & relate to during these tough times.

"Resentful" might not be the right term though the shame they're feeling is making some more introverted & non-communicative towards foreigners. Least that is my experience....the "interesseiras" however are much more eager to communicate.

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How cheap is it now to travel to Brazil? When I was there last time, the exchange rate was less than 2 reais per USD.

Is it now cheaper to travel to Brazil than countries like Thailand and the Philippines if you compare like to like - Rio/SP to Manila and Bangkok?
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(09-22-2015 05:11 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  How cheap is it now to travel to Brazil? When I was there last time, the exchange rate was less than 2 reais per USD.
Just to give members like me, with less knowledge about Brazil, better perspective - when was it?

For comparison, this is the picture from May 2013, USD now is over 22,0 grivna in Ukraine.

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PS, regarding RVF policy - I have no idea who this girl is, never met her and obviously never slept with her (unfortunately). Just random picture I found on VK with interesting background.

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^It was around 2 reais per USD in 2013, before that almost 1.5 in 2011.
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^^^
Yes, and right now inflation is going up and up. I get the sense that heads are going to roll in Brasilia...

On a darker note, I'm getting information that crime is getting bad. Random violence, robberies, etc.

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I planned to go the end of 2011 but it was roughly 1.6 to the dollar, so I went to Thailand instead.

Now that it's 4 to the dollar, have those of you who are there seen a dramatic difference in the cost of living?
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It illustrates how quite incredibly reactive we need to be in our pursuit of perfect poosy paradises. We need to watch, like hawks, exchange rates, local inflation, as well as understand legal, social (and security) issues in many countries, to make the right (destination) choice at the right moment.

It's definitely complex, so it should be taught at Universities. Poosy-Paradises Studies. Involving macro-economics, Law, psychology, and of course languages, and even martial arts: Poosy-Paradises Studies would be the most comprehensive curriculum of them all. Roosh would be the Dean.
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^Since I started traveling (not necessarily for poosy paradises, but in general), I have learned a lot more about geography, economics, anthropology, psychology, history, languages, you name it.
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Flights from my city are on sale for $760 return taxes included. Its usually double that and even with seat sales its never under 1k. So tempting.
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(09-22-2015 06:20 PM)Going strong Wrote:  It illustrates how quite incredibly reactive we need to be in our pursuit of perfect poosy paradises. We need to watch, like hawks, exchange rates, local inflation, as well as understand legal, social (and security) issues in many countries, to make the right (destination) choice at the right moment.

It's definitely complex, so it should be taught at Universities. Poosy-Paradises Studies. Involving macro-economics, Law, psychology, and of course languages, and even martial arts: Poosy-Paradises Studies would be the most comprehensive curriculum of them all. Roosh would be the Dean.
Question is, would the SJWs enjoy having us on their campuses?

A common & simple risk analysis tool, PESTLE (Political, Economic, Sociological, Technological, Legal, Ethical/Environmental) would be useful in this regard. Allows you to have a better grasp of the external environment from different perspectives to aid in decision making.

http://pestleanalysis.com/what-is-pestle-analysis/
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For those wanting to know how this economic collapse will affect the country, here's a good piece. Open it with Google Chrome and do a translation however.

http://economia.uol.com.br/noticias/reda...#fotoNav=2

Important Notes

1) Domestic tourism is slated to increase as a result of this situation. People who have had international trips booked have followed through while taking them of course. Even some of the richest people I know down here however are mum on international travels and are not going to leave the country as often with a weak real.

Could beach resorts and vacation towns in Brazil be a good hunting ground during the holidays as a result?

2) The government has obviously spent exponentially more than they have taken in. Article places part of the blame on foreign investors not being able to solve economic and infrastructure riddles of the country. It however has more to do with what investors are ALLOWED to do in Brazil, which the government drastically limits.

Brazil with the right infrastructure could export exponentially more sugar, beef, soy, etc etc. While Brazil is allowing Chinese companies to import their cheap shit products into the country, they're also not allowing China to touch the infrastructure of the country. For those that have been to China and seen all the great changes however, infrastructure development is the one thing they are doing the best right now...complete opposite of Brazil.

(09-22-2015 04:30 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  I saw all of that economic success, as part of the reason Brazil was going down hill, in terms of the women.

3) I don't think the downhill economic situation is going to make Brazilian women much more pleasant & outgoing in the short-term...if anything real defensive, in denial, and trying to process everything that is going on. However, I could see this experience humbling & bringing them back to earth in the long-term.

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1 pound is now worth 6 reais,few years ago it was 3 reais. I am seriously considering going to Brazil real soon, life will be so much cheaper for us using british pounds.

My book about my almost deadly experience in DR.

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The question here is if this change in exchange rates is real or merely nominal, an adjustment to the local inflation. If you get twice as many Reals for your Dollar/Pound/Euro but the prices have all doubled then the 'real' exchange rate remains unchanged. The Real has lost about 41% against the dollar in the past year. But I just checked and the inflation rate has been around 10% in Brazil over the last year. In the USA the core inflation has been around 2% (core inflation is a scam but that is another story). So overall it does look like you are going to get much more bang for the buck in Brazil in real and Real terms.

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Today's cambio (rate):

4.11 real to the dollar.

Shit just got real...very real.

You start to wonder if things were better under the military:

   

   

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(09-23-2015 02:47 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  You start to wonder if things were better under the military:

lol don't even joke with that

Anyway, expensive dollar is good for some people and bad for another. With an expensive dollar like now, the current government will improve the trade balance and see how it goes.

If you sum things up like the pseudo "crisis/cheating" in China and increase of US interest rates, so real will go down to the ground. It will be painful for a time.

The current government did some bad decisions in the past and they decided to fix these things just after election, which made people really hate the Workers Party.

And for the lads that want to go to Brazil, now is the time Smile
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Jesus I sure hope so. Way over inflated. The prices in Brazil in last few years are ridiculous.

Americans are dreamers too
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Rentals are literally the same price, people are still earning the same salary, Brazil is the place to be right now, too bad it caught me at the wrong time.

My book about my almost deadly experience in DR.

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(09-23-2015 03:00 PM)the_ox Wrote:  
(09-23-2015 02:47 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  You start to wonder if things were better under the military:

lol don't even joke with that




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So, just out of interest, I compared AirBnB rates for apartments in Rio (Copacabana) and higher end neighborhoods of Manila and Jakarta for a couple of weeks in November this year. Manila is pretty similar to Rio in terms of prices ($40-50 per night is doable for an ok studio). Jakarta is slightly cheaper.
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It used to be rio or sao Paulo is alot more expensive than sea (most people stay in hostels). But now its probably the same with the currency.expect to pay 200 reais a night in rio or sp for a average hotel.
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Has the cost of food and other goods in reais gone up much? Drinks in clubs? Clothes? etc.
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