Post: #1

What's with the current surge of female rappers? Rap was more or less exclusively male until Lil' Kim in the late 90s. Now it seems every song has a female rapper. I'm streaming the Packer game and even the Samsung commercial features a female rapper.

While I feel it was popularized by Niki Manaj, female rappers have been forced upon us. Every goddamn song has a verse with a female rapper nowadays.

Post: #2

(09-20-2015 10:34 PM)wi30 Wrote:  What's with the current surge of female rappers? Rap was more or less exclusively male until Lil' Kim in the late 90s. Now it seems every song has a female rapper. I'm streaming the Packer game and even the Samsung commercial features a female rapper.

While I feel it was popularized by Niki Manaj, female rappers have been forced upon us. Every goddamn song has a verse with a female rapper nowadays.

You've never heard of MC Lyte?

Female rappers back in the day were actually dope, the thing is, the game changed and decided that females weren't going to be behind the mic, instead they'd just be used as video eye candy.

These current female rappers you speak of aren't rappers, they're run-of-the-mill pop artists masquerading as rappers.

Post: #3

Not to sound cliche to the board here, but I definitely attribute some of it to the fem-empowerment and social decay feminism has brought.

I've discovered a few new ones around me bankin on looks just recently, with the same ole stale "comin out the hood struggle diva" ciphers that I could wipe my ass with.

Sure you always had a few "bad bitch" types in the business, and tricky girls, but every city seems to have them now. In fact, most rap crews feel the need to add a girl and I just don't know why? They usually have the support of some crew, where a local producer and engineer take her under their wings, hype the look, a few so-so hooks and decent vocals, and try to ride the wave. Intra-crew thirst often has one of the best rappers in the crew (she's bangin, or gettin passed around) standing behind the push to get them noticed, assuming $$$ could come adding the girl in, when it just makes the crew look soft IMHO.

Hard bitches don't do it for me. Known a few, banged a few, and they're not my preference by any means, and I don't get the appeal. I do dig a hottie on vox for R&B hooks, etc. however. They need to quit tryin to grow dicks, and be hardass.

Post: #4

(09-20-2015 10:43 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 10:34 PM)wi30 Wrote:  What's with the current surge of female rappers? Rap was more or less exclusively male until Lil' Kim in the late 90s. Now it seems every song has a female rapper. I'm streaming the Packer game and even the Samsung commercial features a female rapper.

While I feel it was popularized by Niki Manaj, female rappers have been forced upon us. Every goddamn song has a verse with a female rapper nowadays.

You've never heard of MC Lyte?

Female rappers back in the day were actually dope, the thing is, the game changed and decided that females weren't going to be behind the mic, instead they'd just be used as video eye candy.

These current female rappers you speak of aren't rappers, they're run-of-the-mill pop artists masquerading as rappers.

As much as I love eye candy its unfortunate this is the case now because there are still some women who can go to work on a track but if they don't sex it up nobody really knows about them. Jean Grae is pretty dope and I like some of Angel Haze's shit too.

Nicki is frustrating because that bitch can rhyme but she totally went the pop route for fame (hard to blame her). Her verse on Monster is fuckin' nasty

Post: #5

Don't think anyone will surpass Lauryn Hill in my eyes tho

Post: #6

Post: #7

Female rappers aren't new. They have been around for a long time.

Kelise, Missy Elliot, Queen Latifa, Lauren Hill, Da Brat, Salt & Pepper.

Even Bone Thugs n Harmony had a female in the group at one point.


Until the 90s, rap wasn't a massive industry.


Female rappers aren't being forced on anyone.
Female "rappers" now are just pop artist in a industry where sex sells.
Money making potential trumps all.


"You ain't gotta sell sex girl, it sell itself"- Bubba Sparks

Post: #8

Post: #9

Good videos posted so far. I've never been a huge rap fan and hear most of it through mainstream channels (radio, pandora, etc.). I don't have anything against female rappers, but it definitely feels forced on the radio. Sourcecode and Jariel, I'll give them a listen. I'm sure they beat the hell out of the shit played on the radio.

Post: #10

Blondie was rapping in 1980

Post: #11

The bar has been lowered. You actually had to have bars and skill back in the day to get ahead. You had to 'pay your dues' which sounds cliche, but back in the day no DJ was going to put wack shit on his show, and he wasn't going to spin wack shit at his parties. So unless you paid him off your talent or heavy links had to get you on.

In 2015 rappers don't even try any more. Music is real easy and kinda of sloppy, even on the high levels and its easy for women to sneak through in this environment. Like was noted they distract you with their looks and just get a lot of buzz on social media and overnight they are a somebody.

Post: #12

(09-20-2015 10:43 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 10:34 PM)wi30 Wrote:  What's with the current surge of female rappers? Rap was more or less exclusively male until Lil' Kim in the late 90s. Now it seems every song has a female rapper. I'm streaming the Packer game and even the Samsung commercial features a female rapper.

While I feel it was popularized by Niki Manaj, female rappers have been forced upon us. Every goddamn song has a verse with a female rapper nowadays.

You've never heard of MC Lyte?

Female rappers back in the day were actually dope, the thing is, the game changed and decided that females weren't going to be behind the mic, instead they'd just be used as video eye candy.

These current female rappers you speak of aren't rappers, they're run-of-the-mill pop artists masquerading as rappers.

Funny you should mention MC Lyte. I heard this yesterday for the first time in a couple decades...lol.

Just listen to this with some volume...it is hard as hell.





Just incredible...she totally destroyed a competitor named Antoinette (since faded into obscurity)...

Now imagine hearing this at a club in 1989. Loud....

Styles change, and I get that, but I'm thinking that in a battle of pure talent, she could wipe the floor with Minaj.

Post: #13

I don't know how long OP's been listening to rap but female rappers have always been around like Sourcecode said. Nearly every major rap label has a token female rapper or "first lady".

The only female rapper I'd add to his list would be Eve, she had a good run in the late 90's, early 2000's. Plus she wrote her own shit.

There aren't more female rappers but they're become more outlandish in their style and they try to court controversy(see Kreayshawn and Rick Ross). At the end of the day looks aren't a substitute for actual talent and good music:

*


*I checked this and it's true! Hill's album sold 19 million versus 11 million between 8 albums from the others(mostly Kim btw).

Post: #14

(09-21-2015 06:14 AM)wi30 Wrote:  Good videos posted so far. I've never been a huge rap fan and hear most of it through mainstream channels (radio, pandora, etc.). I don't have anything against female rappers, but it definitely feels forced on the radio. Sourcecode and Jariel, I'll give them a listen. I'm sure they beat the hell out of the shit played on the radio.

You are from Wisconsin and don't know about the queen of midwest female rappers rappers? Dessa is to minneapolis is what Bon Iver is to Wisconsin.





Forum Member Osiris is probably losing his mind right now.

Post: #15

I'll go back even further...ever heard of The Real Roxanne? Antionette? Or even Jazzy Joyce a top notch female DJ. Females have made a real contribution to hip hop before this shit became hip pop

They all predate Latifsh, Lyte, Monie Love and Salt n Pepa

Rah Digga, Lauren Hill and Bahamadia were all dope in their own right

All females who had skills and didn't have to suck a dick to get shine

Because the game is all sex kittens masquerading as mc's the real females spitters got pushed out the game

Damn shame

Post: #16

I've never really listened rap other than what they play on the radio (which isn't even rap). The MC Lyte song is bad ass. Recently I started getting into the genre. I never heard any female rappers other than Missy Elliot, Lil' Kim, or Nicki Minaj. The shit that Iggy puts out is absolutely awful and is the motivation for this thread. I'm getting proved wrong and adding a ton of bad ass songs to my collection. This is quickly turning into a female rapper appreciation thread. RVF never lets me down.

Post: #17

Was listening to this at the gym today, reminded me of this thread.

Never heard the chick on anything but this song but she kills it

Post: #18

(09-21-2015 07:22 PM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  I'll go back even further...ever heard of The Real Roxanne? Antionette? Or even Jazzy Joyce a top notch female DJ. Females have made a real contribution to hip hop before this shit became hip pop

They all predate Latifsh, Lyte, Monie Love and Salt n Pepa

Rah Digga, Lauren Hill and Bahamadia were all dope in their own right

All females who had skills and didn't have to suck a dick to get shine

Because the game is all sex kittens masquerading as mc's the real females spitters got pushed out the game

Damn shame

She wasn't great, but WB

Post: #19

Female rappers are like female comediennes.

All shit.