Post: #1

I saw this article linked off Drudge and the guy seems fully SJW and ready to push for some radical changes. Any Brits have concerns or is all of that "equality" a desired outcome over there?

Quote:This is a very serious achievement today. We now have policy debates on welfare reform. We have campaigns on trade union rights, the environment and social justice. Yes, we are ready

Quote:"I say thank you in advance to us all working together to achieve great victories, not just electorally for Labour, but emotionally for the whole of our society to show we don't have to be unequal, it doesn't have to be unfair, poverty isn't inevitable," the grey-haired, bearded 66-year-old said.

It really sounds like he means economically equal, not just created equal.

Quote:“I have a background in human rights and peace and in trade unions. I want to make sure nobody is ignored in society,” he said.

“It breaks my heart when I see people sleeping rough. It breaks my heart when I see people begging or people using food banks.

“It’s not necessary. We are a rich country and we can do things differently.”

You won't be rich for long.

Post: #2

(09-13-2015 12:20 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  I saw this article linked off Drudge and the guy seems fully SJW and ready to push for some radical changes. Any Brits have concerns or is all of that "equality" a desired outcome over there?

Quote:This is a very serious achievement today. We now have policy debates on welfare reform. We have campaigns on trade union rights, the environment and social justice. Yes, we are ready

Quote:"I say thank you in advance to us all working together to achieve great victories, not just electorally for Labour, but emotionally for the whole of our society to show we don't have to be unequal, it doesn't have to be unfair, poverty isn't inevitable," the grey-haired, bearded 66-year-old said.

It really sounds like he means economically equal, not just created equal.

Quote:“I have a background in human rights and peace and in trade unions. I want to make sure nobody is ignored in society,” he said.

“It breaks my heart when I see people sleeping rough. It breaks my heart when I see people begging or people using food banks.

“It’s not necessary. We are a rich country and we can do things differently.”

You won't be rich for long.

Doesn't this shithead want to give the poor, oppressed princesses of Britain their own carriages on public transport in case they're the "victim" of an errant compliment or an awkward advance from a newbie PUA?

Post: #3

(09-13-2015 12:26 PM)davyjose Wrote:  Doesn't this shithead want to give the poor, oppressed princesses of Britain their own carriages on public transport in case they're the "victim" of an errant compliment or an awkward advance from a newbie PUA?

Really? That's insane.

Post: #4

I think Brits are more likely to be pissing themselves laughing rather than shitting themselves in fear.

One of the key reasons Labour lost under Miliband was because he was too left-wing. Labour's solution was therefore to vote in someone even more left-wing, somebody who would only enjoy their ale with twigs and soil floating in it if he wasn't a teetotaller.

It's more likely that the Tories or someone else infiltrated the voting process to get Corbyn in, a man who didn't ever expect to win and only joined to bring some SJW bullshit or whatever into the debate. Key Labour figures, votable Labour figures, have been warning for weeks that Corbyn will ruin the party and make them unvotable for years.

God willing.

A score of them have already said that they will not serve in his Shadow Cabinet. When one of them, Yvette Fielding, is a relatively centrist short-haired feminist, you get a feel for just how Marxist this fucking oxygen thief is. Andy Burnham's team's tweet just after the announcement was "Fuck".

He has already promised to make his Shadow Cabinet at least 50% female.

Post: #5

He's advocating a 'maximum wage', there's no way anyone would vote for him.

The man is a vegetarian cyclist, end of discussion. Unelectable.

Post: #6

Two MPs belonging to that party were the ones who wanted to launch in investigation into 2 british jihadists killed in Syria by a drone authorised by David Cameron last week claiming what had happened was wrong and that the families could potentially sue.

Post: #7

Very out of touch, the working class who could alleviate themselves mostly did so in the late 80s/90s with Thatcher. We live in a globalised world now, you can't preach about class inequality when you ignore this fact. The richest people living in Britain now are mostly foreigners from Arabia, Russia, China; soon it will be Nigerians and Brazilians. The wealthy British men who I suppose are the folk devil of the new left. Are pretty much international themselves, doing business in places such as Dubai or the Far East.

Post: #8

Although he's a SJW through and through, I've loved seeing the establishment politicians fret and sweat over someone who, at the very least, doesn't change his opinions for votes, popularity or money. Or cave into the corporate money.

Gotta respect that.

Post: #9

I wouldn't be so sure about laughing at him these days. Labour imported many of its voters from...yes you guessed it, the ME and Africa. Their enclaves vote Labour or Liberal parties. Look at demographics in London, Manchester, Birmingham, Bradford, Sheffield or any town/city with high numbers of mainly Muslim migrants and their families.

This Marxist would go toe to toe with Germany for taking in refugees and would implement a taxation on the rich and middle earners to pay for it all. He would make Merkel look on in envy.

Whilst I do laugh at him and Labour they have opened a means of creating a voter base out of thin air and that is not something the country can deal with.

Post: #10

I am glad someone is anti-austerity because why should the poor pay for the fuck ups by the speculators of the international casinos?

Having said that, there is not party of labour in the West left that will stand up for the working man without all the weird and wonderful Swedish New Left loony tune doctrines.

His first act as leader was to join a "Refugees Welcome" rally which means he doesn't believe in Marx's reserve labour pool theory, unless of course the reserve team is going to replace the existing labour force.

Post: #11

Here in Canada we laughed at the NDP before the last election, the leftist of all three parties. The NDP won the election in the most conservative province in the country and it's slated to possibly form the next federal government (current polls, but that can change). Now it's them that are laughing.

For all the talk of the rise of right wing, and right wing nationalism, it's the leftist parties across the west that are consistently forming governments and dictating policy and the right is relegated to shouting from the sidelines, or moving closer to the centre to win elections. Just as David Cameron did.

And if that doesn't make you think, let this sink in for a minute...here in Canada, the conservative party is overwhelmingly backed by non-white immigrants and their children (ethnic population). The old adage, right wing is white, left wing is everyone else is no longer a valid assumption.

I would be concerned about Corbyn, he may surprise the Brits in 5 years. Especially if Cameron doesn't deliver the results the electorate wants. Being an assured politician with a clear message, even if that message is flawed is becoming a winning formula. Corbyn is a SJW, a socialist, and as left as they come, but he's not hiding it. He's not backtracking from it, he's sure of himself and his policies. Voters are drawn to that kind of confidence.

Post: #12

(09-13-2015 01:34 PM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  I think Brits are more likely to be pissing themselves laughing rather than shitting themselves in fear.

One of the key reasons Labour lost under Miliband was because he was too left-wing. Labour's solution was therefore to vote in someone even more left-wing, somebody who would only enjoy their ale with twigs and soil floating in it if he wasn't a teetotaller.

It's more likely that the Tories or someone else infiltrated the voting process to get Corbyn in, a man who didn't ever expect to win and only joined to bring some SJW bullshit or whatever into the debate. Key Labour figures, votable Labour figures, have been warning for weeks that Corbyn will ruin the party and make them unvotable for years.

God willing.

A score of them have already said that they will not serve in his Shadow Cabinet. When one of them, Yvette Fielding, is a relatively centrist short-haired feminist, you get a feel for just how Marxist this fucking oxygen thief is. Andy Burnham's team's tweet just after the announcement was "Fuck".

He has already promised to make his Shadow Cabinet at least 50% female.

It's interesting you say that. Here's a line from ZH:

Quote:During the last month, the Labour leadership campaign has seen trade unions double their number of signed-up supporters and 120,000 people pay £3 to register as supporters to be able to vote. The party’s website crashed as surges of people attempted to sign up at the last minute and Labour struggled to cope with almost 400,000 new members and supporters.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-13...ction-marx

I'm curious to see what will happen.

Post: #13

Personally I suspect that the Conservatives (the New Blairites) will re-align themselves even further to the left to capitalise on the moderate left Labour voters who will balk at the prospect of voting for Jeremy Corbyn. And the whole system will swim ever leftward as the politicians grasp to stay in power.

I think after their failure to capture seats at the last election, UKIP may be a busted flush, and to be honest, do not offer a significant enough counter balance to the main parties. I like Farage and warm to him, but there is such division now within UKIP, with him having stayed on, and other members of the party jockying for power and a revised agenda to appeal to more voters; plus I suspect that there is a general lack of confidence within UKIP following their failure to turn votes into seats at the last election that is hampering any progress they may have been able to make on the back of a decent voter share at the election.

I no longer believe the answer here will come by democratic means.

As for Corbyn himself, I stand in opposition to most of what he says, and find some of his actions (particularly his friendship with Gerry Adams) distasteful. That said, even if he is misguided, I think he believes what he says, and will give honest answers to questions. It is a sad state of affairs, but in modern politics, that takes a good degree of integrity, which I can respect, even though I regard him as an enemy to the future of my country.

Post: #14

The guy is unelectable and a complete clown.

It's IDS/Hague all over again but on the other side.

Post: #15

Ironically he's just announced his cabinet, and there's ZERO women in the top jobs.

Even though most of the cabinet is still batshit insane. The chancellor wants a 60% tax and wants to seize shares of people with no compensation.

I hope the conservatives aren't too smug and dismissive of him, and actually hammer home how batshit insane Corbyn and his government's policies are, instead of playing stupid political games attacking his character.

Post: #16

At 24 minutes into this LBC interview with Nigel Farage, he's asked whether he's like Donald Trump, he says no and says that he doesn't support him or his wall idea.

Then he says he supports Corbyn for wanting to leave the EU and that this is not about left vs right anymore.

I'm really disappointed in him. We need someone more like Trump here in the UK.

Post: #17

Corbyn and his Cabinet are the vision of what would happen if enough people took the Green Party seriously.

Post: #18

Any by-elections in the near future? Will be interesting to see how Corbyn's election changes previous party percentages.

My own view is that this throws a lifeline to the Lib Dems. In the absence of a financial catastrophe between now and the next election Labour under Corbyn lose 50% of their seats. In England 75% of these go to the Lib Dems, 25% to the Conservatives. Not sure about Scotland, NI and Wales. Local nationalist parties there will probably continue to do well.

I really doubt it is possible in today's Britain to create a government from public union support, however vocal. Thatcher destroyed that for good. That's why they think she was a witch.

Post: #19

(09-13-2015 02:07 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  The man is a vegetarian cyclist, end of discussion.

What else needs to be said, really?

Post: #20

(09-14-2015 02:49 PM)Ocelot Wrote:  

(09-13-2015 02:07 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  The man is a vegetarian cyclist, end of discussion.

What else needs to be said, really?

You mean apart from the facts that the Shadow Chancellor openly states he wants to overthrow capitalism and the Shadow Minister for Farming is a vegan?

Post: #21

(09-14-2015 02:54 PM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 02:49 PM)Ocelot Wrote:  

(09-13-2015 02:07 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  The man is a vegetarian cyclist, end of discussion.

What else needs to be said, really?

You mean apart from the facts that the Shadow Chancellor openly states he wants to overthrow capitalism and the Shadow Minister for Farming is a vegan?

Even if he was chairman of the National Association for the Kicking of Puppies, the most immediately pertinent reason to not vote for him would still be that he's a vegetarian cyclist. Anything else is just a bonus.

Post: #22

He's like a time machine back to the 1970's. I think he's like Neil Kinnock, Michael Foot and IDS - totally unelectable.

Here’s an example of how lunatic some British government departments are. I was once invited to an interview with The Highways Agency - they administer the motorways (or freeways as Americans call them) for the UK. I was told in my interview letter something like “due to the Highways Agency’s belief in environmental values, we cannot provide a parking space for the interview.”

So in other words, the government body which is responsible for administering roads is against cars! I had to take the train to get to the interview.

Post: #23

He is already planning militant union action across the country. They can shutdown the entire tube network if they like which they did one time in the summer for 24 hours over having to work a couple night shifts.

Whole of London was pissed the fuck off at them but apparently unsocial hours for drivers sitting on their arse pushing a lever is too hard for them and they get paid more for it on top of the luxury 50k salary they get.

So when you get the so-called main opposition leader (Corbyn) coming out guns blazing siding with the big Unions and their head-honchos threatening to derail every attempt by the Tories to curb this militant action at the cost of millions of other people and the GDP with punitive strike action, you get a sense that the people who will get hit the most by these actions are the Labour voters themselves.

This is on top of his championing of terrorists in Ireland and Palestine, hatred towards capitalism, Trident and anything which resembles anti-socialism.

When you sell your own people out only the greed merchants and idiots will follow you.

Post: #24

Its like beating a dead horse, politics is no longer about left wing/right wing anymore. Its nationalism v globalism, in a sense we have propelled ourselves into the future. I find it funny speaking to socialists or the so called left wingers who live in London. They don't even know what they are against anymore. They are pro immigration and multiculturalism but this is the very mechanism that propels the rich. Look at who's buying up the most expensive properties in London, mostly Arab and Russian multi millionaires.

The left wing we talk about on here, are mostly religious zealots but without the belief of god. They have their mob mentality and pursue nature altering policies which just piss off most ordinary people.

Post: #25

British elections are always won from the middle ground.

This is quite simply the funniest thing I've seen happen in politics since Winky McFucknut's beloved bigot-gate.

People shouldn't be at all worried about this clown. Just because a bunch of kids and losers shout on social media about how amazing it would be to return to the problems of the 1970s doesn't mean it is ever, ever going to happen.