Post: #76

(09-25-2015 03:06 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Damn, what is up with Rhonda's chin?

For Christ's sake man, you've ruined her for everyone now. What the hell!

Post: #77

(09-25-2015 03:17 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  

(09-25-2015 03:06 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Damn, what is up with Rhonda's chin?

For Christ's sake man, you've ruined her for everyone now. What the hell!

If that didn't ruin it this will.

Post: #78

hahahaha

Post: #79

Post: #80

(09-22-2015 08:30 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 07:30 PM)AldoKelevra Wrote:  I've never heard any woman say that she prefers an average or chubby man over a physically fit one.

Exactly. Where are all the porky male strippers?

Hell, how does a man go from 'that guy into that thing' to a movie star women everywhere gossip and talk about?

What happened?





What happened?





What happened?

Yeah, women suddenly just noticed what good actors they were....

Cherrypicking the worst available photos to make example? Check
Not understanding what makes them attractive to women? Check

Chris Pratt is 6'2" with 8+ face and Joe Manganiello is 6'5" with 8+ face:



They are tall and handsome that is why they're attractive to women, not because they're ripped. Instagram is full of ugly shredded guys posting their gym selfies that only get commented by other bodybuilding retards. Meanwhile where are skinny guys who would get laughed at this forum getting hundreds of comments from girls telling them how hot they are.

Take Scooby who is famous for training advice:


Tall and muscular, but he's not gonna get girls wet, because he has an ugly face.

Then Tom Brady, who while big is not exactly ripped:



Tom Brady would clean up even if he wasn't famous. And guys like this have no incentive to workout in order to be more attractive, because they're already attractive enough.

So yeah that gives an answer to OP. Majority of women would prefer handsome face with subpar physique to subpar face with great physique.

Post: #81

(09-27-2015 10:53 AM)ComebackKid Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 08:30 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 07:30 PM)AldoKelevra Wrote:  I've never heard any woman say that she prefers an average or chubby man over a physically fit one.

Exactly. Where are all the porky male strippers?

Hell, how does a man go from 'that guy into that thing' to a movie star women everywhere gossip and talk about?

What happened?





What happened?





What happened?

Yeah, women suddenly just noticed what good actors they were....

Cherrypicking the worst available photos to make example? Check
Not understanding what makes them attractive to women? Check

Chris Pratt is 6'2" with 8+ face and Joe Manganiello is 6'5" with 8+ face:



They are tall and handsome that is why they're attractive to women, not because they're ripped. Instagram is full of ugly shredded guys posting their gym selfies that only get commented by other bodybuilding retards. Meanwhile where are skinny guys who would get laughed at this forum getting hundreds of comments from girls telling them how hot they are.

Take Scooby who is famous for training advice:


Tall and muscular, but he's not gonna get girls wet, because he has an ugly face.

Then Tom Brady, who while big is not exactly ripped:



Tom Brady would clean up even if he wasn't famous. And guys like this have no incentive to workout in order to be more attractive, because they're already attractive enough.

So yeah that gives an answer to OP. Majority of women would prefer handsome face with subpar physique to subpar face with great physique.

To be fair though, getting in shape (lowering your bodyfat, specifically) will make your face look significantly better. There's a thread on bodybuilding.com about this.

Post: #82

(09-27-2015 04:22 PM)nek Wrote:  Cherrypicking the worst available photos to make example? Check
Not understanding what makes them attractive to women? Check

Chris Pratt is 6'2" with 8+ face and Joe Manganiello is 6'5" with 8+ face:

I think they're both very plain looking men myself, and you're picking photos after their status was raised.. Neither of them are the pretty boy male model material women put up on their facebook walls: they're just examples of how women artificially-inflate men's attractiveness when they're trying to find reasons to love them due to the animal attraction of size, fitness and other women wanting them too.

Manganiello's wonky nose and lazy eye are only sexy to her because his body has inflated his status. Chris Pratt is an average looking guy whose obesity has taken a toll on his face, even when slimmed down.

In real-life, the majority of women are never going to cross paths with the kind of male beauty they venerate, and instead end up chasing male physicality, which is far more bountiful.

Speak of cherry-picking: you left out all 5ft8 of Tom Hardy. A lack of height is another defect that will be handwaved away when she thinks you're charming enough to start justifying her sexual desire for you.

Quote:Instagram is full of ugly shredded guys posting their gym selfies that only get commented by other bodybuilding retards. Meanwhile where are skinny guys who would get laughed at this forum getting hundreds of comments from girls telling them how hot they are.

As a lifelong bodybuilding retard myself, I've noted the tendency of the manosphere to dismiss and denigrate the Swole. I'm told women aren't really into it, and that women prefer lean men because studies asked women what they preferred and took their responses seriously, which assumed women know what they want, neither of which match my experience. Hell, it's insinuated that we're meatheads who lack intelligence or are over-compensating for something. I could get that kind of ressentiment from Jezebel.

Yet, somehow, women's wandering hands keep exploring my biceps, my abs and my pecs in social situations, and I can see the uncontrollable lust in their eyes as they objectify parts of me during sex.

Post: #83

(09-27-2015 08:37 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 04:22 PM)nek Wrote:  Cherrypicking the worst available photos to make example? Check
Not understanding what makes them attractive to women? Check

Chris Pratt is 6'2" with 8+ face and Joe Manganiello is 6'5" with 8+ face:

I think they're both very plain looking men myself, and you're picking photos after their status was raised.. Neither of them are the pretty boy male model material women put up on their facebook walls: they're just examples of how women artificially-inflate men's attractiveness when they're trying to find reasons to love them due to the animal attraction of size, fitness and other women wanting them too.

Manganiello's wonky nose and lazy eye are only sexy to her because his body has inflated his status. Chris Pratt is an average looking guy whose obesity has taken a toll on his face, even when slimmed down.

In real-life, the majority of women are never going to cross paths with the kind of male beauty they venerate, and instead end up chasing male physicality, which is far more bountiful.

Speak of cherry-picking: you left out all 5ft8 of Tom Hardy. A lack of height is another defect that will be handwaved away when she thinks you're charming enough to start justifying her sexual desire for you.

Quote:Instagram is full of ugly shredded guys posting their gym selfies that only get commented by other bodybuilding retards. Meanwhile where are skinny guys who would get laughed at this forum getting hundreds of comments from girls telling them how hot they are.

As a lifelong bodybuilding retard myself, I've noted the tendency of the manosphere to dismiss and denigrate the Swole. I'm told women aren't really into it, and that women prefer lean men because studies asked women what they preferred and took their responses seriously, which assumed women know what they want, neither of which match my experience. Hell, it's insinuated that we're meatheads who lack intelligence or are over-compensating for something. I could get that kind of ressentiment from Jezebel.

Yet, somehow, women's wandering hands keep exploring my biceps, my abs and my pecs in social situations, and I can see the uncontrollable lust in their eyes as they objectify parts of me during sex.

I'm pretty sure I didn't say that...

Post: #84

I've had a tinder main pic up for the last year of me looking pretty ripped and muscular, not huge, about 10% bf built like an nfl slot receiver. Just a straight up selfie in the mirror with no shirt on and good lighting. That pic gets me 3-6 matches a day with girls sending the first message a few times a week, often times compliments or sexual massages, not all thirsty pigs either, good looking chicks given its tinder. I replaced the pic for a while with a pretty standard one, and then another, both from before I worked out and was just thin, and its a pretty big difference, 1-2 maybe 3 chicks a day, none open me, quality drop.

I just started working out again after a 3 month break, theres been a big gap in girls reactions from my peak physique to how I look now. I still get lingering eye contact and smirks, but pretty frequently girls used to blatantly stare at my biceps and chest and then give me this stare like "please bend me over right here in the grocery store". The interactions are very different.

All I can say is get in good/great shape, I don't give a fuck what women say, they're actions tell the story.

Post: #85

(09-27-2015 08:37 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  Yet, somehow, women's wandering hands keep exploring my biceps, my abs and my pecs in social situations, and I can see the uncontrollable lust in their eyes as they objectify parts of me during sex.

Agreed. Women like muscle period. Faces aside, everyone becomes more attractive with muscle mass. For many men there is a certain sort of self denial and if I'm honest it really isn't any different to many of the women trying to pretend that curvy is sexy.

I can attest to myself and any number of my friends. There is a definite sweet spot that coincides with muscle mass and attention and unless a man reaches this point he will never understand.

Personally I've noticed that it's around the lean 185lb [At 6' so a little lighter if you're shorter or a little heavier if you're taller] that starts generating pussy without actively pursuing it.

When discussing this issue facial features need not apply. If someone has a rough facial aesthetic he will find it tough regardless BUT… The body will only help.

Post: #86

(09-27-2015 10:53 AM)ComebackKid Wrote:  Tom Brady would clean up even if he wasn't famous. And guys like this have no incentive to workout in order to be more attractive, because they're already attractive enough.

We don't know what else to tell you man. It's important. Take it from someone who knows from experience - regardless of if they like your face, they'll hold a weak body against you. It's no different to with girls - if a girl is pretty but has a body like a prepubescent boy (see profile flag), you'll be happy to be seen with them, but you won't feel as much sexual drive with them as you would a voluptuous girl. I'd say, based on my observations of other men interacting with girls, body and face are of about equal weight, face is maybe 55%. I've seen many a 'pretty boy' receive no interest because they looked weak, miserable or shy etc. It's definitely not just about the face.

So you can decide whether it's more prudent to convince other men to buy into your hopelessness, so you can feel more confident in your hopelessness, or you can stop making excuses for your ineffectualness and get on with the self-improvement.

Post: #87

Essentially in basic terms: Nearly anything which requires hard work and dedication will lead to greater rewards. Muscle isn't an easy feat and dismissing its effectiveness is just a cop out to bypass the effort.

Part of this movement is about shunning that femanist attitude I.E: "Real men love curves". In reality that's their excuse for laziness.

We know that we want a feminine women. Women naturally have higher levels of body fat. It takes discipline for them to stay thin.

On the flip side: Women love a masculine male. It takes discipline for us to gain lean mass.

Where we try to differentiate ourselves is by rejecting the excuses. As men we acknowledge the reality and do our best to improve to our own individual capabities.

Post: #88

(09-27-2015 08:37 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  As a lifelong bodybuilding retard myself, I've noted the tendency of the manosphere to dismiss and denigrate the Swole. I'm told women aren't really into it, and that women prefer lean men because studies asked women what they preferred and took their responses seriously, which assumed women know what they want, neither of which match my experience. Hell, it's insinuated that we're meatheads who lack intelligence or are over-compensating for something. I could get that kind of ressentiment from Jezebel.

Yet, somehow, women's wandering hands keep exploring my biceps, my abs and my pecs in social situations, and I can see the uncontrollable lust in their eyes as they objectify parts of me during sex.

I see plenty of the same anti-muscle posts here and elsewhere and I would bet large amounts of money in every case they're being made by guys who've never experienced being big. Its just a convenient excuse to not put the work in in the gym.

Anyone I've ever known whos been skinny, and has then put in a few years work to get big, has the exact opposite opinion. Muscles matter.

Hitting the gym regularly is the single easiest way for nearly every guy to increase the quality, and quantity, of girls he gets.

Post: #89

(09-27-2015 09:44 PM)aeroektar Wrote:  That pic gets me 3-6 matches a day with girls sending the first message a few times a week, often times compliments or sexual massages, not all thirsty pigs either, good looking chicks given its tinder.

I just started working out again after a 3 month break, theres been a big gap in girls reactions from my peak physique to how I look now. I still get lingering eye contact and smirks, but pretty frequently girls used to blatantly stare at my biceps and chest and then give me this stare like "please bend me over right here in the grocery store". The interactions are very different.

The rest of your message inspires me to stop by the gym later today . . .

Post: #90

This topic reminds me of this classic SNL clip.