150 turkish troops deployed in northern iraq, not part of Joint NATO coalition, according to US. Iraqi Government did not authorize troop deployment by Turkey either.

https://www.rt.com/news/324787-turkish-t...oyed-iraq/

Quote:according to two US defense officials quoted by Reuters, Turkey’s deployment is not part of the efforts of the US-led coalition battling Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL).

http://news.yahoo.com/baghdad-calls-anka...NlYwNzcg--

Quote:Baghdad (AFP) - Baghdad demanded Saturday the immediate withdrawal of forces it said Turkey illegally sent into Iraq, which is struggling to assert its sovereignty while receiving foreign assistance against the Islamic State group.


Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu played down the military activity as "routine rotation activity" and "reinforcement against security risks", while also labelling any misinterpretation as a "provocation".

The Kurdish regional government -- which has forces in the area where the Turkish troops deployed and close ties with Ankara -- indicated that Turkey aimed to expand a camp near the main IS hub of Mosul.

The troops, which Baghdad said had tanks and artillery, were sent to the camp in Nineveh province, some 80 kilometres (50 miles) from the Turkish border, where Ankara's forces have been training Sunni fighters hoping to retake Mosul from the jihadists.

Turkey has other camps in Iraq, but they are inside the official borders of the autonomous Kurdish region, while the site near Mosul is in an area claimed by both Kurdistan and Baghdad.

Facing political pressure as a result of statements by US officials, Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has taken an increasingly hard public line on foreign forces in Iraq, terming the deployment of ground combat forces a "hostile act".



- Base expansion -

"We have confirmation that Turkish forces, numbering about one armoured regiment with a number of tanks and artillery, entered Iraqi territory... allegedly to train Iraqi groups, without a request or authorisation from Iraqi federal authorities," it said.

The deployment "is considered a serious violation of Iraqi sovereignty," it added.

A local Kurdish commander described the deployment as a routine rotation by Turkish trainers, but a subsequent statement by the Kurdish regional government pointed to increased Turkish activity.



Mosul, which is predominantly Sunni Arab, is a key centre of IS's self-proclaimed "caliphate", but an operation to retake the city remains a distant prospect.

Turkish newspaper Hurriyet said that Ankara was "establishing a base in the Bashiqa region of Mosul with 600 soldiers".

Davutoglu denied that, saying: "This is not a new camp."

Rather, it is a pre-existing "training facility established to support local volunteer forces' fight against terrorism", set up in coordination with the Iraqi defence ministry, he said.


- Other agendas -

Ankara's critics have repeatedly questioned Turkey's commitment to the war against IS, accusing it of being more interested in attacking the rebel Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), which it has repeatedly bombed in Iraq.

Iraqi Kurdish regional president Massud Barzani sees the PKK, which is also a key player in the anti-jihadist effort, as a rival in the Kurdish world.

The Kurdish region is politically divided and competing factions have often used the war on IS to advance party agendas.



Abadi has repeatedly said Iraq needs all the help it can get to fight IS, but he is also walking a fine line between receiving that support and projecting sovereignty.

The Turkish deployment is just the latest in a series of challenges over the past week that have pushed him to take a hard line on foreign forces helping Iraq against IS, which overran large parts of the country last year.

Calls from two American senators for the number of US troops in Iraq to be tripled, combined with Secretary of Defence Ashton Carter's announcement that Washington would send a special forces contingent to fight IS in Iraq and Syria, put Abadi under heavy pressure.

Shiite paramilitary forces dominated by Iran-backed militias came out strongly against the US, and Abadi issued his own series of increasingly strident statements about foreign forces.

Russia Engaged in "Elite-Level Trolling"

Quote:"By rebranding their own allies and all kinds of random exiles as 'FSA representatives,' they [the Russians] are trying to wring a very useful fiction out of the hands of their enemies or, failing that, to destroy it by adding to the confusion," Lund wrote.

"Some might call this diplomacy. I call it elite-level trolling."

Negotiations and potential Cease Fire to start on January 1

Some heartwarming news ... Besieged soldiers meeting their families for the first time in almost 3 years!

About 2 weeks ago, thanks to Russian Air support the Syrian Army was able to liberate the Kwereis Airbase just east of Aleppo. The Airbase was besieged by first the rebels and then ISIS for 2 and a half years (right around the time i started following this war). The Air-base was soon rendered non-functional due to consistent shelling.

These guys went through living hell. The only way they could be supplied was by in-accurate air drops. On top of running low on ammo, medical supplies and living off one meal a day ... they were being attacked by ISIS almost daily. Non-stop, by day , by night and by large suicide VBIED's intended on breaking their defenses.

ISIS actually entered the airbase a couple of times and these guys drove them off hand-to-hand with revolvers and knives. In the beginning, it was estimated there were about 1000-1200 soldiers and airmen inside.

Only 268 made it back!!

If these guys were American, they would have already been offered movie and book deals.

Watch them meet their families who by the way had no idea if theirs sons and husbands were dead or alive until like 3 days before the homecoming. I almost shed man-tears watching this.

I hope these guys get a nice and long all expenses paid vacation on the Mediterranean coast. Having said that ... I can't help but envy these faggots since brotherhoods forged in wartimes like this are unbreakable and last a lifetime. Wouldn't be surprised if some of these guys officially adopted the children of their fallen comrades.

That is truly great to see.

An American plane(s) bombed the Syrian army out in the boondocks and Islamic State immediately followed it up with an attack. Always escalating, probing, and agitating. I wouldn't mind Russia accidently bombing the runways of the airbase the USA is rehabbing in Kurdish Syria. Don't let them get a foothold inside Syria.

(12-06-2015 08:30 PM)Big Nilla Wrote:  An American plane(s) bombed the Syrian army out in the boondocks and Islamic State immediately followed it up with an attack. Always escalating, probing, and agitating. I wouldn't mind Russia accidently bombing the runways of the airbase the USA is rehabbing in Kurdish Syria. Don't let them get a foothold inside Syria.

Ay - someone at BBC was even so stupid as to tweet it. They deleted it soon after:



Good to know that the Western fight against ISIS looks like the old fight against ISIS - arming them in secret and bombing their enemies - the Syrian legitimate army.

My bet is that France is doing the same - it's not as if anyone of us is going to check up on the info. Germany recently declared that it will not share bombing targets with Russia.

Its about time Russia declared it a no-go zone. They have the anti-air capabilities to tell everyone to fuck right off. SOmething will give if these "accidents" keep happening.

We even have our media declaring the airstrikes are having absolutely no effect on the ground war against ISIS, Nusra etc. What a fucking joke. Propaganda at its finest.

...

I think it was meant as an ironic term of endearment.

Like calling your friends "losers" etc.

An Iraqi Shia cleric telling a pro US TV anchor a few home truths about President Assad. His cool and calm take down of that stuck up bitch is epic.





Meanwhile...

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/u-s-...-alawites/

Quote:A prominent official from the U.S. backed Syrian Opposition has called for the extermination of Alawite Muslim villages after a series of defeats at the hands of the religiously diverse “Syrian Arab Army” (SAA) in the month of November.

Hard to believe this is what Piggy Cameron, Le Sauce and Teleprompter Man call 'moderates'.

Glory to President Bashar Al-Assad.

(12-07-2015 08:24 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Its about time Russia declared it a no-go zone. They have the anti-air capabilities to tell everyone to fuck right off. SOmething will give if these "accidents" keep happening.

We even have our media declaring the airstrikes are having absolutely no effect on the ground war against ISIS, Nusra etc. What a fucking joke. Propaganda at its finest.

Let us not forget that what Russia and President Assad are proposing is a ceasefire between Assad and those fighting him, and the formation of a coalition of all countries currently involved to defeat ISIS once and for all. Then after ISIS is defeated, that there be UN monitored and verified elections also including the diaspora so that the Syrian people can democratically elect the country's leadership.

The US, along with it the UK, France, Germany, Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia flatly refuse these proposals as it means that Assad's name will be on the ballot paper.

(12-07-2015 12:05 PM)Traktor Wrote:  An Iraqi Shia cleric telling a pro US TV anchor a few home truths about President Assad. His cool and calm take down of that stuck up bitch is epic.

That Muslim cleric favors a secular regime because he knows that all sects will end up warring between each other or one sect winning would make all other second-class.

That TV bitch is typical with the statement that after Assad someone will be elected and all will be well. This is so much bullshit - hasn't worked in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, but will work in Syria with a crazy caliphate already in place.

And that cleric is right - if Assad falls, then other states are in line. The globalist powers will destroy every Muslim country - even the so-called allies. He knows the enemy too well and knows that Muslim countries should all have secular governments in order to have internal and external peace.

(12-07-2015 12:43 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 12:05 PM)Traktor Wrote:  An Iraqi Shia cleric telling a pro US TV anchor a few home truths about President Assad. His cool and calm take down of that stuck up bitch is epic.

That Muslim cleric favors a secular regime because he knows that all sects will end up warring between each other or one sect winning would make all other second-class.

That TV bitch is typical with the statement that after Assad someone will be elected and all will be well. This is so much bullshit - hasn't worked in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, but will work in Syria with a crazy caliphate already in place.

And that cleric is right - if Assad falls, then other states are in line. The globalist powers will destroy every Muslim country - even the so-called allies. He knows the enemy too well and knows that Muslim countries should all have secular governments in order to have internal and external peace.

(12-07-2015 12:05 PM)Traktor Wrote:  An Iraqi Shia cleric telling a pro US TV anchor a few home truths about President Assad. His cool and calm take down of that stuck up bitch is epic.

That cleric who put that ignorant talking head (daft cunt) back in her place is correct in his assessment.

It's not often that you get someone in a position like that saying publicly what many of us and far more knowledgable foreign policy observers have been saying for years.

Secularism is in the enemy of the west and Israel.

It sounds so counterintuitive that people have wrongly called it a conspiracy but it's true and what you are seeing in the middle east are the consequences from this foreign policy madness.

Hmmmmmmm.

http://www.news.com.au/world/new-us-inte...4aa8dc4fbc

Very unusual for a leftie MSM site to be promoting this kind of "ISIS really is just as big and invasive and horrible as the Right says it is" kind of stuff. I mean, these quotes:

Quote:A NEW US intelligence report predicts the Islamic State terror group will spread worldwide unless it incurs significant losses in Syria and Iraq.

The leaked report, commissioned by the White House prior to the Paris attacks and the San Bernardino shootings, comes on the heels of another huge gain by IS with the assassination of the governor of the Yemeni port city of Aden.

The accompanying map puts big red blobs over Algeria, Libya, Egypt, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen, Iraq, and Afghanistan as places that have ISIS "provinces". And then there's this...

Quote:Experts say the leaking of Islamic State’s masterplan overnight show how much the west has underestimated the group.

The blueprint includes a complete system of civil service and government as well as “Soviet levels of economic control,” according to the Guardian.

“Far from being an army of irrational, bloodthirsty fanatics, IS is a deeply calculating political organisation with an extremely complex, well-planned infrastructure behind it,” Charlie Winter, a senior researcher for Georgia State University told the newspaper.

Titled, “Principles in the administration of the Islamic State”, its 24-pages reveal how IS has grown to become the wealthiest and most feared terror groups of the last 50 years. And that’s only the beginning.

“[IS] is a project that strives to govern. It’s not just a case of their sole end being endless battle,” said Aymenn al-Tamimi, an academic researcher who, through a businessman working with IS, leaked the documents to the press.

Written by an Egyptian named Abu Abdullah, the text is a manual for “cadres of administrators” after the group’s leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, declared a “caliphate” in Iraq and Syria on June 28, 2014.

It also delves into the mundane — health, education commerce, communications, jobs — and provides a guide on how to organise government departments including military, public relations and education.

Children will receive “training on bearing light arms”, while “outstanding individuals” will be “selected from them for security portfolio assignments, including checkpoints, patrols”.

Foreign fighters and “natives” must unify under the new regimen, it says, while calling for “factories for local military and food production”.

The Guardian claims it obtained the masterplan from a businessman working with Islamic State via IS researcher Aymenn Jawad al-Tamimi, who translated it.

In a blog post, al-Tamimi estimates the document was written between June and October 2014.

“If the west sees IS as an almost stereotypical band of psychopathic killers, we risk dramatically underestimating them,” said General Stanley McChrystal (retired), who according to the Guardian, led the military units that helped destroy IS’s predecessor organisation in Iraq from 2006 to 2008.

“If it is indeed genuine, it is fascinating and should be read by everyone — particularly policymakers in the west.

“In the Principles in the administration of the Islamic State, you see a focus on education (really indoctrination) beginning with children but progressing through their ranks, a recognition that effective governance is essential, thoughts on their use of technology to master information (propaganda), and a willingness to learn from the mistakes of earlier movements.”

Questions being: who leaked the DNI report, and why?

(12-07-2015 08:24 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Its about time Russia declared it a no-go zone. They have the anti-air capabilities to tell everyone to fuck right off. SOmething will give if these "accidents" keep happening.

We even have our media declaring the airstrikes are having absolutely no effect on the ground war against ISIS, Nusra etc. What a fucking joke. Propaganda at its finest.

NATO really is a pack of duplicitous bastards.

Every time the Kurds are at the point of cutting Daesh's oil supply lines, Turkey magically appears as the Jihad genie to push the Kurds back.

Everyone knows that ever since the US started its air-strikes, the balance of the war turned to Daesh's favour but this has largely been reversed by Russia's far more modest levels of bombing.

If there is anything positive from this, it is the Anglo-speaking public have become more immune to the lies that financial-democratic élite tells them through huge levels of propaganda through the media. Syria was on the Project for the New American Century since the late-1990s but all the slurs against Assad has not convinced them that they should destroy Syria like Iraq and Libya were. This is why NATO is forced to attack Assad through the back door and by using the proxy jihad.

Good article from Paul Craig Roberts:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info...e43644.htm
Key points...

"The Russian government’s low key response to the provocation was used by Washington to reassure Europe that there is no risk in continuing to pressure Russia in the Middle East, Ukraine, Georgia, Montenegro, and elsewhere. Washington’s attack on Assad’s military is being used to reinforce the belief that is being inculcated in European governments that Russia’s responsible behavior to avoid war is a sign of fear and weakness."

"For Russia, responsible response to provocation has become a liability, because it encourages more provocation.

In other words, Washington and the gullibility of its European vassals have put humanity in a very dangerous situation, as the only choices left to Russia and China are to accept American vassalage or to prepare for war."

"The Russian government has relied on responsible, non-provocative responses. Russia has taken the diplomatic approach, relying on European governments coming to their senses, realizing that their national interests diverge from Washington’s, and ceasing to enable Washington’s hegemonic policy. Russia’s policy has failed. To repeat, Russia’s low key, responsible responses have been used by Washington to paint Russia as a paper tiger that no one needs to fear.

We are left with the paradox that Russia’s determination to avoid war is leading directly to war."

Only a moron would ever think a Putin led Russia is a paper tiger.

Fuck these stupid politicians. Arrogant without ever having risked death for anything (well most - there are those who have seen combat).

Hey everyone, first post here. May as well do it in this thread that has got me real hooked.

I follow RT as my main source of news, and since the Paris attacks I've noticed something very strange in their reporting of especially muslims and "refugees".

Over the last 2-3 days, they've had articles/videos:
1) "Attempted Murder" by German attacking refugee shelter
2) Rising Islamophobia in London
3) Mistaking Quran/Bible verses social experiment in Amsterdam
4) "Future President ?" / "'French Front National victory a warning to rest of Europe'" After French election result (Which was weird since Putin and Le Pen are on good terms)
and a few more examples of islam-sympethizing / Passive-aggressive digs at Europeans against the invasion. Meanwhile, zero mention of reverse crimes/troubles...they used to be a lot more in balance.

RT wasn't like this at all prior to Paris attacks, and I am trying to understand what is the purpose of these sort of reports, seeing as RT is very pro-Kremlin and usually the anti-MSM. The only reason I can think of, is that they want to attract Muslims and their Western sympathizers who think the Western Media are against them (LOL), to their side and increase audience, but it's still strange.

Their reporting on Russia's fight against ISIS is still top notch and very detailed and I've noticed have awakened many Americans/Canadians to the lies that are spouted in MSM here every day.

(12-03-2015 03:27 PM)polar Wrote:  This article is overstated. Most of Russia's economy depends on commodities exports. The (state-affiliated) companies in commodities are doing well, but most of the profits wind up in numbered bank accounts in tax havens.

That being said, while not 50% poorer, most people have suffered 10+% cuts to their real income over the previous year, and taxes have only been going up. Imports are being substituted by goods of inferior quality. For example, butter in food products being replaced with palm oil, less real meat or lower quality meat in sausages, etc.

If what you're saying is true, then that sounds dire indeed, a generation or two of such trends might result in an economy as bad as the USA.

326,000 Native-Born Americans Lost Their Job In November: Why This Remains The Most Important Jobs Chart:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-05...rtant-jobs

The "Real Stuff" Economy Is Falling Apart:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-05...ling-apart

Each month one or two high-profile government reports show the US is growing, adding jobs and generally recovering from the Great Recession. But it’s not clear how that can be, when the part of the economy that makes and moves real things keeps shrinking. Here’s a chart, published recently by Zero Hedge, showing that US manufacturing has been contracting for the past year:


....

One reason for the discrepancy between overall growth and real stuff is that most of today’s economy is made up of services, and they’re doing okay (until this month):

What is the service sector? Mostly software, restaurants, banks, construction companies, retailers, doctors and hospitals.

Can an economy thrive if it doesn’t make or move physical things? Intuitively the answer is no, because most of the services mentioned above either maintain the status quo (like healthcare and restaurants) or (like houses) consume rather than build capital. As for banking, in its current incarnation it’s almost certainly a net negative, draining capital from productive uses and funneling it to trading desks and political action committees.

The US, in short, is engaged in an experiment to see how long an economy can function with services growing and manufacturing contracting. As with so many of today’s monetary and fiscal experiments, no one knows when definitive results will come in. But the data so far aren’t encouraging.


There Go The Truckers: Unprecedented 59% Plunge In November Heavy Truck Orders:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-03...ruck-order


It's Official (Again): The Current "Recovery" Is Worse Than The Great Depression's:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-01...epressions

In a perfectly timed update to his infamous April 2009 "worse then The Great Depression" chart, Kevin O'Rourke has unveiled his latest chart-du-poor. With US manufacturing collapsing, bond yields tumbling, and The Fed about to hike rates to prove they can, this so-called 'recovery' has fallen below that following The Great Depression. As O'Rourke sums up, "pretty dismal stuff. Let’s hope that we can at least avoid the famous 1937-38 double dip."


U.S. Total Debt Soars By $674 Billion In November:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-01...n-november

Also, just to preempt the question, the chart below shows the change in US debt under president Barack Obama: starting at $10.6 trillion on January 21, 2009, total debt is now up just over 77% under Obama's tenure, to $18.8 trilion. At the current pace of growth, it may double by the time Hillary is sworn in as America's next president.


Number Of Millennials Living In Parents' Basement Climbs (Again); Weddings Blamed (Again):

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-30...amed-again

Three weeks ago, we noted with some alarm that the number of women age 18 to 34 living with their parents is now the highest since record keeping began more than seven decades ago.

According to a study by the Pew Research Center in Washington, 36.4% of young women have now moved back to the basement, so to speak. The culprit: weddings. No, really.

[...]

Of course the real reason why 18-34 year-olds are moving home is because the US economic "recovery" is characterized by a labor market that, far from being a "robust" creator of breadwinner jobs, actually churns out bartenders and waiters. The sad thing is, between lackluster wage growth, crippling student debt, and bad decision making when it comes to picking a college major, some millennials are finding out that serving drinks is a far better way to make ends meet than taking a full-time job for a meager salary that all but guarantees you a spot among America's growing peasantry.

On Monday, we get still more evidence of the above, this time from the Commerce Department, who reports that 31.5% of 18-34 year-olds now live with their parents.



2015: The Last Christmas In America:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-30...as-america


http://www.oftwominds.com/photos2015/dec...-wages.png

Wages as a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) have been declining for decades. Note the diminishing returns on financialization and asset bubbles that always bust: wages blip up in the bubble and then crash to new lows when the bubble bursts:

http://www.oftwominds.com/photos2015/GDP-wages8-15a.png

Look at how debt has soared while GDP has essentially flatlined. This is diminishing returns writ large: we have to pile on ever-increasing mountains of debt just to keep GDP from going negative.

http://www.oftwominds.com/photos2014/TCMDO-GDP7-14b.png

This dependence on debt for "growth" leaves the economy exquisitely sensitive to any decline in debt growth. The slightest drop in debt growth in the Global Financial Meltdown almost collapsed the entire global economy:

http://www.oftwominds.com/photos2015/tcmdo6-15.png

(12-08-2015 01:21 AM)Big Nilla Wrote:  Good article from Paul Craig Roberts:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info...e43644.htm
Key points...

"The Russian government’s low key response to the provocation was used by Washington to reassure Europe that there is no risk in continuing to pressure Russia in the Middle East, Ukraine, Georgia, Montenegro, and elsewhere. Washington’s attack on Assad’s military is being used to reinforce the belief that is being inculcated in European governments that Russia’s responsible behavior to avoid war is a sign of fear and weakness."

"For Russia, responsible response to provocation has become a liability, because it encourages more provocation.

In other words, Washington and the gullibility of its European vassals have put humanity in a very dangerous situation, as the only choices left to Russia and China are to accept American vassalage or to prepare for war."

"The Russian government has relied on responsible, non-provocative responses. Russia has taken the diplomatic approach, relying on European governments coming to their senses, realizing that their national interests diverge from Washington’s, and ceasing to enable Washington’s hegemonic policy. Russia’s policy has failed. To repeat, Russia’s low key, responsible responses have been used by Washington to paint Russia as a paper tiger that no one needs to fear.

We are left with the paradox that Russia’s determination to avoid war is leading directly to war."

Babyboomers who are not ignorant politicians don't believe in Russia being a paper tiger. My parents remember the cold war days and they see striking similarities with then and now.

The only difference being is that we are open to attack because our supposedly biggest ally, the US, is inciting mass violence across the globe.

Only the young believe in fairy tales, where Russian ordnance cannot reach European cities. Russia would be hard-pressed to do such a thing because lets face it, the Europeans are friendly and welcoming of Russia in modern times and throughout history.

But if neccessary, Russia will hit us like they'd hit America.

Americans and Russian governments might as well be from different planets, complete opposites and it doesn't help that each side has plenty of nuclear weapons. It also doesn't help that the foreign policy of the US is agitating Russia at the cost of Europe.

When people talk of a federal EU it is to pivot European thinking to a more American way, where absolute violence is the first tool to use and question asked later, perhaps.

(12-08-2015 01:58 AM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  Hey everyone, first post here. May as well do it in this thread that has got me real hooked.

I follow RT as my main source of news, and since the Paris attacks I've noticed something very strange in their reporting of especially muslims and "refugees".

Over the last 2-3 days, they've had articles/videos:
1) "Attempted Murder" by German attacking refugee shelter
2) Rising Islamophobia in London
3) Mistaking Quran/Bible verses social experiment in Amsterdam
4) "Future President ?" / "'French Front National victory a warning to rest of Europe'" After French election result (Which was weird since Putin and Le Pen are on good terms)
and a few more examples of islam-sympethizing / Passive-aggressive digs at Europeans against the invasion. Meanwhile, zero mention of reverse crimes/troubles...they used to be a lot more in balance.

RT wasn't like this at all prior to Paris attacks, and I am trying to understand what is the purpose of these sort of reports, seeing as RT is very pro-Kremlin and usually the anti-MSM. The only reason I can think of, is that they want to attract Muslims and their Western sympathizers who think the Western Media are against them (LOL), to their side and increase audience, but it's still strange.

Their reporting on Russia's fight against ISIS is still top notch and very detailed and I've noticed have awakened many Americans/Canadians to the lies that are spouted in MSM here every day.

Russia Today is a propaganda piece. That doesn't mean it isn't worth watching or that CNN/FOX/NBC are better, because they are not, but it does mean that like Western media like to denigrate Russia, so does Russia Today if they can find something which can show issues.

Particularly because Putin has repeatedly humble bragged about how well he and Russia's muslims get along, particularly the Chechens. Putin is pragmatic and practical and wants to be seen as such. He wants to show Europeans, how poor their leaders are at dealing with muslims for example.

Another thing that can explain the very liberal slant of RT, and I believe this to be just as important, is that the journalists they have are American and European, not Russian. Consider yourself what kind of person would willingly and openly work for a 'hostile power'? Classic conservatives? Nope. Libertarian and liberal yep.

The kind of reporter who would want to work for Russia Today needs to be a special breed, someone who probably has some pretty strong convictions about 'peace love harmony'.

Lastly, Russia full well understands that liberalism is the language of the European youth. They speak a language that the young understand, then inject some of their more important viewpoints on Ukraine and Syria for example.

Israel is grabbing wounded terrorists, patching them up, and sending them back into Syria.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...emies.html

Quote:Israel insists that these treacherous nightly rescues are purely humanitarian, and that it can only hope to 'win hearts and minds' in Syria. But analysts suggest the Jewish state has in fact struck a deadly 'deal with the devil' – offering support to the Sunni militants who fight the Syrian ruler Assad in the hope of containing its arch enemies Hezbollah and Iran.

There is no doubt about the danger involved. Many of the casualties rescued by Israel belong to Salafist groups who harbour a deep-seated hatred of the Jewish State. It has also been reported that some may be members of Jabhat al-Nusra, a Syrian group affiliated to Al Qaeda that has kidnapped scores of UN peacekeeping troops in this area, and has massacred Christians deeper in Syria.

(12-08-2015 09:01 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 01:58 AM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  Hey everyone, first post here. May as well do it in this thread that has got me real hooked.

I follow RT as my main source of news, and since the Paris attacks I've noticed something very strange in their reporting of especially muslims and "refugees".

Over the last 2-3 days, they've had articles/videos:
1) "Attempted Murder" by German attacking refugee shelter
2) Rising Islamophobia in London
3) Mistaking Quran/Bible verses social experiment in Amsterdam
4) "Future President ?" / "'French Front National victory a warning to rest of Europe'" After French election result (Which was weird since Putin and Le Pen are on good terms)
and a few more examples of islam-sympethizing / Passive-aggressive digs at Europeans against the invasion. Meanwhile, zero mention of reverse crimes/troubles...they used to be a lot more in balance.

RT wasn't like this at all prior to Paris attacks, and I am trying to understand what is the purpose of these sort of reports, seeing as RT is very pro-Kremlin and usually the anti-MSM. The only reason I can think of, is that they want to attract Muslims and their Western sympathizers who think the Western Media are against them (LOL), to their side and increase audience, but it's still strange.

Their reporting on Russia's fight against ISIS is still top notch and very detailed and I've noticed have awakened many Americans/Canadians to the lies that are spouted in MSM here every day.

Russia Today is a propaganda piece. That doesn't mean it isn't worth watching or that CNN/FOX/NBC are better, because they are not, but it does mean that like Western media like to denigrate Russia, so does Russia Today if they can find something which can show issues.

Particularly because Putin has repeatedly humble bragged about how well he and Russia's muslims get along, particularly the Chechens. Putin is pragmatic and practical and wants to be seen as such. He wants to show Europeans, how poor their leaders are at dealing with muslims for example.

Another thing that can explain the very liberal slant of RT, and I believe this to be just as important, is that the journalists they have are American and European, not Russian. Consider yourself what kind of person would willingly and openly work for a 'hostile power'? Classic conservatives? Nope. Libertarian and liberal yep.

The kind of reporter who would want to work for Russia Today needs to be a special breed, someone who probably has some pretty strong convictions about 'peace love harmony'.

Lastly, Russia full well understands that liberalism is the language of the European youth. They speak a language that the young understand, then inject some of their more important viewpoints on Ukraine and Syria for example.

I find that alternative new sources altogether, for example, like the Unz Review with it's multiple different high quality alt left and right blogs and columnists or Zerohedge, offer the best analysis of news, in conjunction with mainstream news sources that are paid for corporations or state governments. That being said, even on these sites, many are sympathetic to Putin, not buying into the normal media kool-aid, but without having the overly weird liberal and minority stuff that RT sometimes has or vatnik like views of Russia's capabilities.

Can someone post that ISIS throwing the ball at France gif again if they have it? I can't find it.